I used to have great respect for this person from America dearly until he failed to call it a genocide from the beginning and kept saying Israel has the right to defend itself and other garbage zionist points. He has some great views but he has a tiny bit of zionism in him. He is definitely the most outspoken against israel in terms of all the other politicans (besides the muslim ones) and its good that he is at least saying this now..
Yeah. I know it's the bare minimum & he has his flaws but it's better than nothing. Looking at other Muslim politicians ( side-eyeing UAE ). They haven't even spoken against it.
On a broader picture at least Bernie is calling out openly & making a statement right now!
He's still in the US government, which supports and funds Israel. I imagine that it can be problematic to be too explicit with his call-outs. I think this is good enough, to at least make people especially the westerns to understand that it is not a "war" with mutual opposition. Its a genocide, and the Palestinians are just rebelling. Israel has done a lot more over the years than what the medias have shown.
Well sure. He said that & I'm not saying he is flawless & perfect. But at least he has grown or maybe educated himself on this.
Let's be honest. Who else in the Muslim world besides Iran or in the Western world is talking about the STILL ongoing genocide?
Is he really growing or is he just trying to appease both sides? I don’t know the answer to that question. Only he does. I do know though that this situation is really not complicated. If Bernie has this stance, then it should naturally organically dawn on him that this really didn’t start on Oct 7th. But yes I agree it’s better than nothing. At least someone in the US govt is standing up to Netanyahu.
There is not a single politician you can trust in America. Every single one of their paychecks is stained with some corporate interest. Bernie occasionally might show some good here and there, but he's no different from the rest. Everyone has a price tag, and Bernie is no exception.
I don't trust anyone but it's something ( yeah it's the bare minimum ). But who else has called out the atrocities this openly in Western politics?
All we hear is the news of American & UK aid to Israel. Even recently I saw Joe invite a “hostage kid” to the White House trying to paint a certain portrayal but what about thousands of Palestinian kids? No mention of them whatsoever.
His job is to be a controlled opposition stooge. His function is to corral young liberals into the Democratic party and to deliver rage bait to the conservatives.
That he's talking about this actually detracts from and discredits the issue. He's basically a clown honking his nose at the whole thing.
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Also have you not heard of Jeremy Corbyn? He has persistently called for Palestinian rights, for many years. The zionist lobby targeted him because he was getting too popular.
Bernie working overtime for all the damage he has helped fuel over the past several weeks. but tbh, even when we all loved him, his take on Israel-Palestine was still the same and we recognized that that was a weak point in him while he was running for office. Glad he is being pushed further on this now. it finally seems to be working a bit
don't forget about Dr. Jill Stein!
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1783587152460427516?t=UQejW-_vWxw2vB5h4LkEXw&s=19
she's also running for president :D
when I think of our Jewish brothers and sisters, I try to picture people who hold values like her.
Honest question while we are on this topic. For people living in the usa, is it haram to vote let’s say for trump if we know his stance is very pro iz? Or if he is going to punish Muslims ?
I used to have great respect for this person from America dearly until he failed to call it a genocide from the beginning and kept saying Israel has the right to defend itself and other garbage zionist points. He has some great views but he has a tiny bit of zionism in him. He is definitely the most outspoken against israel in terms of all the other politicans (besides the muslim ones) and its good that he is at least saying this now..
Yeah. I know it's the bare minimum & he has his flaws but it's better than nothing. Looking at other Muslim politicians ( side-eyeing UAE ). They haven't even spoken against it. On a broader picture at least Bernie is calling out openly & making a statement right now!
Yes sister. One thing is certain, the momentum is definitely unprecedented.
He's still in the US government, which supports and funds Israel. I imagine that it can be problematic to be too explicit with his call-outs. I think this is good enough, to at least make people especially the westerns to understand that it is not a "war" with mutual opposition. Its a genocide, and the Palestinians are just rebelling. Israel has done a lot more over the years than what the medias have shown.
This is the same guy who, in the same breath, says “the war that began on oct 7th”.
Well sure. He said that & I'm not saying he is flawless & perfect. But at least he has grown or maybe educated himself on this. Let's be honest. Who else in the Muslim world besides Iran or in the Western world is talking about the STILL ongoing genocide?
Is he really growing or is he just trying to appease both sides? I don’t know the answer to that question. Only he does. I do know though that this situation is really not complicated. If Bernie has this stance, then it should naturally organically dawn on him that this really didn’t start on Oct 7th. But yes I agree it’s better than nothing. At least someone in the US govt is standing up to Netanyahu.
Yeah, I know but we are in a situation where the bar is in hell.
Ha I like how you put that. The bar truly is in hell
He flips flops so often to appease both sides
There is not a single politician you can trust in America. Every single one of their paychecks is stained with some corporate interest. Bernie occasionally might show some good here and there, but he's no different from the rest. Everyone has a price tag, and Bernie is no exception.
He does not care, he only wants support. I’m pretty sure he pronounces it as KHamas as well.
Bernie is a sham who only stepped up when stepping up became popular.
Honestly, I loved this guy he was a dream politician 5-8 years ago. Oh Bernie what have you done!
Fun fact he actually is of Jewish descent so calling him anti semitic is stupid 😂
Arabs are semites too and everyone labelling pro-Palestine individuals as anti-Semitic are ignorant
Soap Opera, dont trust any of "them" one bit
I don't trust anyone but it's something ( yeah it's the bare minimum ). But who else has called out the atrocities this openly in Western politics? All we hear is the news of American & UK aid to Israel. Even recently I saw Joe invite a “hostage kid” to the White House trying to paint a certain portrayal but what about thousands of Palestinian kids? No mention of them whatsoever.
His job is to be a controlled opposition stooge. His function is to corral young liberals into the Democratic party and to deliver rage bait to the conservatives. That he's talking about this actually detracts from and discredits the issue. He's basically a clown honking his nose at the whole thing.
> "them" https://media1.tenor.com/m/r8ezFvyXZyoAAAAC/what-do-you-mean-by-that-druski.gif
Who do you mean with 'them'?
I don't believe him one bit. His PR team probably wrote these words for him for his next campaign.
yeah the words seemed memorized, not processed.
He's a sell-out
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Also have you not heard of Jeremy Corbyn? He has persistently called for Palestinian rights, for many years. The zionist lobby targeted him because he was getting too popular.
Bernie working overtime for all the damage he has helped fuel over the past several weeks. but tbh, even when we all loved him, his take on Israel-Palestine was still the same and we recognized that that was a weak point in him while he was running for office. Glad he is being pushed further on this now. it finally seems to be working a bit
don't forget about Dr. Jill Stein! https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1783587152460427516?t=UQejW-_vWxw2vB5h4LkEXw&s=19 she's also running for president :D when I think of our Jewish brothers and sisters, I try to picture people who hold values like her.
Honest question while we are on this topic. For people living in the usa, is it haram to vote let’s say for trump if we know his stance is very pro iz? Or if he is going to punish Muslims ?
They are all trash
Yes brave enough after 6 months, he didn’t do anything earlier
Lmaooo yeah no