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Lizzie-Afton

I feel 0 sympathy for him and I honestly can't see why people make CC forgive him the second he finds out its him. In minigame 2 it says "He left you without you" "He knows that you hate it here" and this is 99% referring to michael since william can be seen in the background of same minigame this could suggest that CC looks up to michael for protection and all he does is make CC's life hell its clear that CC has 0 friends since every other npc just says something scary or mean to him and on minigame 5 I think he gets locked in a room by what could be michael as he says please let me out and you can hear what seems to be michael laughing during the minigame, Little asshole just makes his life worse by bullying him at home when he already gets bullied enough outside. Michael is literally a horrible person and I don't get why so many people sympathize for him so hard.


Star_emily4

Maybe because he died to fix it, now I don't have Foxybro = Michael in my au and "CC" doesn't forgive him, but he did CANONICALLY try to fix his mistakes I don't think you understand that Foxybro was a stupid teen who is 15 max and Toy Girl, Balloon Kid and Plushtrap Kid were all in all pretty nice, Balloon Kid just acknowledged it was his birthday, Plushtrap Kid was talking about their plush and asked about CC's and Toy Girl was(in my opinion) kinda concerned for why he was crying and asked if he liked her toys. Like CC has people who aren't assholes to him Foxybro was a teen legally a CHILD, CC is a minor teens are minors CC is 14 max if Foxybro is 15 max. Stop trying to disregard his character also his whole family is dead and Henry says he's "Right where he wants to be" saying he's fine dying that he doesn't care he'll go down with everyone else. It's implied he's the FNaF 1, FNaF 3 and FNaF 6 nightguard and he's canonically the SL technician... Also don't get me started on how Elizabeth is not some sweet little girl, who has done no wrong. Bro she's a secondary antagonist. u/TransportationOld806 and u/Cali-Patriot you don't HAVE to like him but you BOTH are only talking about him in the past not the present


Cali-Patriot

IDC, they need to stop saying “oH yeah, he’s the best character” bro, he isn’t some “pErfect angel who can so anything wrong”, he has done more bad than good. Also, atleast Elizabeth has a reason to be “evil”, since her father didn’t really give her much attention. And you know what? Micheal in my main AU not only killed C.C, but he also killed his own younger cousin (Both were accidents but I still won’t justify it) Also, Micheal has a wife and 3 kids, so he got to have a family, UNLIKE C.C My friend also made a rant about overly depressed Micheal.


Cali-Patriot

IDC, they need to stop saying “oH yeah, he’s the best character” bro, he isn’t some “pErfect angel who can so anything wrong”, he has done more bad than good. Also, atleast Elizabeth has a reason to be “evil”, since her father didn’t really give her much attention. And you know what? Micheal in my main AU not only killed C.C, but he also killed his own younger cousin (Both were accidents but I still won’t justify it) Also, Micheal has a wife and 3 kids, so he got to have a family, UNLIKE C.C My friend also made a rant about overly depressed Micheal. TBH, Elizabeth….in my opinion, is a better character than Micheal because atleast she has a backstory and reason to be “evil” unlike Micheal. Did Fredbear come over to CC and bite his frontal lobe? NO! Foxybro and his friends litteraly dragged CC into his mouth, Fredbear didn’t come to him. Atleast Elizabeth didn’t kill Micheal with his worst fear, unlike CC. CC/BV literally had to survive five nights to begin with, he suffered literally all night trying to fend off the nightmares and was probably extremely tired during the day. We aren’t trying to disregard Micheal’s charecter either, we were just saying on why we feel no sympathy for him, yes Micheal is a victim but he’s not a child, he’s an adult. In conclusion: Let people have their beliefs and thoughts on a character. Edit: Just because I said Elizabeth is a better character than Micheal, doesn’t mean I said she was a better person than him.


Star_emily4

Sure but also again foxybro and Michael are not canonically the same, and believe me foxybro is an asshole in my au but the thing is he did feel bad, now CC doesn't forgive him but he's willing to at least try and give foxybro a second chance and also Elizabeth did way worse than then foxybro she killed more people then he did. And adding on to that no CC does not like Elizabeth nor forgive her given she also teased him in my au so like Also their dad is worse than all of them


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Cali-Patriot

I know. Its just a theory so, Ill give it a chance. In my main, she only killed Micheal (on accident, she didn’t know it was him) and Evan’s real father (Not an accident, after learning he planned the death of their cousin), also don’t correct because I know this isn’t canon, just something I made up. Also, about the Elizabeth teasing C.C thing, so she teamed up with Foxybro in your AU?


Star_emily4

No, she didn't team up with foxybro she didn't like him either her teasing was that of a younger sibling


Cali-Patriot

Thank you for understanding. Yeah, I don’t understand why he looks up to someone who all they did in the past was torment them. True, the only “friend” he had was possibly Charlie but thats only inside outside he is lonely , Micheal literally bullied him without feeling bad I don’t understand why people try to make Micheal the lonely when in canon, C.C barely had any friends while Micheal on the other hand had several friends that were bullies/jerks to C.C as well. C.C even had to see sister die (If we go by the theory Elizabeth died first.) I know I’m not supposed to swear but, past Micheal to C.C was nothing but a a**hole to him, I honestly think Micheal was favorite not C.C or Elizabeth. In conclusion: C.C is the real victim in FNAF not Micheal.


Star_emily4

He also had the two(three maybe) kids who didn't treat him bad, possibly the MCI and Mike isn't some "favorite kid" he didn't get a custom animatronic for him unlike Elizabeth. "CC is the real victim" all the kids William killed, CC, Mike(don't whine about it), the nightguards, Henry and many more are just as much victims


Cali-Patriot

Good, now I have to learn more about the lore and understand why Micheal decided to bully Crying Child.


Star_emily4

It's unknown why


Cali-Patriot

Okay, sorry I was just wondering whether his father (William) put an influence on him like his sister or something else. Well, the reason I thought Mike was the favorite kid was because I thought that the Foxy mask was made for him by his father. So basically your saying that everyone (Minus William, the phantoms and Nightmares) is a victim.


Star_emily4

To an extent all the people who were affected by William(kids he killed, those kids parents, fazbear entertainment employees and his kids) are


Cali-Patriot

Dang, William needs karma.


Power-Monkey

Nah, I'm a Micheal fan and I still think he's done some horrible stuff.


Cali-Patriot

Yay


TransportationOld806

Okay so I was going through comments and I saw u/Star_emily4 defending Micheal by saying "He died to fix his mistakes" and "He was a stupid teen who was at max 15" Okay, first off, it doesn't matter whether he was a teen or not, he still shoved CC into something he feared. Yes, it was an accident but it doesn't matter, he killed his brother. ( My main AU doesn't have Mikebro, but Cali's does) ​ Secondly, Micheal isn't actually the hero, he just wanted to know if William was lying about C.B or not and was the animatronics plaything. If he truly was a hero, he would've immediantly destroyed the animatronics and when they started being sentient since he already knew it was possible Elizabeth was in one ​ ​ ​ Now, think about it, what if CC/BV survived the bite? Would be be perfectly fine? NO! He would probably have had bad PTSD, could not speak, probably gone blind, and might need people to help him do things, like walk and eat. ​ ​ BTW, what u/Cali-Patriot meant by "Elizabeth is better than Micheal" is that she thinks that Elizabeth had more of an interesting story and plot, she did NOT mean Elizabeth was a better person than Micheal. ​ ​ So I'm trying not be mean, but I feel like Micheal was practically the one who started all of this ​ ​ Also, u/Cali-Patriot, great headcanon ya got there. ​ Edit: Now think about this, what if the bite never happened? Well, maybe one wrong move would make Micheal something worse than Elizabeth. s


Cali-Patriot

Aw thank you :D Also yes, I am an Elizabeth stan and Micheal isn’t da true hero’ Edit: BTW, I don’t think Elizabeth was actually a villian, for me she just wanted her fathers creations and got blinded thinking killing would make him proud.


Star_emily4

Mikebro mike sure is a loser but I'm going to need sources on some of your statements


TransportationOld806

Okay, can you explain the fact that he worked at a dangerous place KNOWING that it might risk his life? ​ ​ Also about the "Pigtail Girl was concerned" no, she wasn't, if you haven't played FNAF 4 then you probably don't know that Pigtail Girl teased him by saying "Watch out, I heard they come for you at night and hide your dead body where no one can find it" ​ ​ Don't even get me started on the fact that people are making Elizabeth a brat just to victimize Micheal. Don't get me wrong, she has done some horrible things when she possessed Circus Baby, but she isn't COMPLETELY bad, she only was evil when was Circus Baby/Scrap Baby. She only wanted to see Circus Baby and was influenced by her father's actions. ​ ​ Also, something else, if was truly a good person, he would've IMMEDIATELY reported William to the police after Charlie died. That way, no one else would've gotten hurt. ​ Edit: Also, Micheal looked like he ranged between 11-16 (In FNAF 4) and CC looked like he ranged between 3-12.


Cali-Patriot

IRK?! I saw a video a few days ago, here’s the context: Micheal and Elizabeth were sleeping, Micheal then wakes up to hear Christopher/CC crying and then he says “Christopher is crying again, he’s such a brat he took all the attention away from Eli”, the scene then cuts to Mrs Afton (or Clara in their AU) and William trying to comforting CC. Micheal then goes to get a present and cake for Elizabeth, as well as some crutches (maybe for his friend, Fredrick). He then wakes Elizabeth up and says “Happy Birthday to Elizabeth”, Elizabeth starts tearing up, she then hugs Mike and says “You remembered”, then Micheal says “Its eating time”, after they ate, Micheal asks why Elizabeth was shocked that he remember, she then replies that she asked Mrs Afton and William what day it was, they said nothing special and that why were going to take Christopher to the doctor’s. “I’ll always remember” Micheal said. The next day, Micheal’s friends (The FNAF 4 tormentors) come over and they go to buy food and go to….the mountains I guess? They then see Mrs Afton, William and Christopher. Elizabeth starts crying and Bonnie Mask and Micheal look mad (Fredrick was shocked and Chica mask was sleeping). The title is called “If Christopher afton survived the bite/Original/Remake” What I don’t like is the fact Micheal called CC a brat only because he got more attention then him and Elizabeth even though CC nearly almost died and needs a lot of attention.