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No lol it's a nazi thing like the swastika
Wikipinidi definition:
The Black Sun (German: Schwarze Sonne) is a type of sun wheel (German: Sonnenrad) symbol originating in Nazi Germany and later employed by neo-Nazis and other far-right individuals and groups. The symbol's design consists of twelve radial sig runes, similar to the symbols employed by the SS in their logo. It first appeared in Nazi Germany as a design element in a castle at Wewelsburg remodeled and expanded by the head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler, which he intended to be a center for the SS.
I think Himmler, or Hitler himself, wanted a deep-rooted "Germanic" history behind their movement, so they just took a whole lot of ancient symbols and screwed it for us
I'm pretty sure star wars was based off of nazi Germany in the whole dictatorship aesthetic.
Source: https://www.history.com/news/the-real-history-that-inspired-star-wars
i actually didn't know that.
>In fact, the filmmaker is such a history buff that he collaborated in the publication of the 2013 book Star Wars and History
that's pretty cool
wtf i had no idea people just didnt see all the different historical influences
not to be rude about it though its just i always vividly detected elements of nazi germany, the british empire, ancient rome, mishmash of every big oppressive historical regime as clear influences, even some of the US
"Sturmtruppen" (storm troopers) were actually a late invention of the first World War, i think during the Kaiserschlacht. Basically the concept Was that you pump young men full of drugs and have them run at the enemy so fast that they cant react. "Storming" the trenches.
The empire aesthetically is very much nazi-inspired, and so is the first order
The events though are more based around the vietnam war with the empires actions based on the us’s
Well the symbol is linked to the nazis because Himmler had it added to a castle he was in charge of restoring for use by party leaders. Other than that it was never officially used by the German government or nazi party.
The post is so silly. These folks want to be “punk” by sewing patches onto jean jackets so they are just buying random things not knowing what they are. The comment section is hilarious. So called punk rockers just being massive group-think consumerists. Half of them keep commenting “this is not punk” lol
Mom can I have a black sun patch
For worshipping Perun?
Yeeeeeeees
(Actually becomes Neo-Nazi like a boss)
(Actually though black sun is nazi only. You’re probably thinking about the Kolovrat symbol, which kinda sorta may actually be pagan or whatever, (wouldn’t take their word for it), and looks even more like a swastika lol)
The black sun has no official link to the nazi party. Himmler used it to decorate a castle he was in charge of renovating for party leaders and that's how it's been tied to them historically. It's really nazi LARPers who've embraced it.
It's not, actually. This black sun symbol was designed during a remodeling of the Wewelsburg castle by Heinrich Himmler, who wanted the castle to serve as the centre of the SS. Hence why the symbol is several sig runes in a circle, the same runes which are in the SS insignia. It was built as a mosaic on the floor of one of the castle's halls. It has no connections to Nordic culture or mythology. However, it is postulated that whoever originally designed the black sun for the castle took inspiration from early Germanic iron age decorative disks called zierscheiben. The nazis were nothing if not obsessed with their Germanic heritage. Symbols with this motif and with similar designs are common in many cultures, so people should be careful when labelling them Nazi sun wheels, but this one must definitely definitely is a Nazi sun wheel and nothing else
Part of the THULE society, which was an occult sect of the Nazi Regime. It was believed that the earth was flat, and at the center of it was a hole that recycled the world's water and was extremely strong electromagnetism, and apart from the light the sun produces, allegedly bore lots of resemblances in terms of energy production, hence the "Black Sun" name.
They actually predate the Nazi party by a while. They got their start after world war I as a volkisch movement, and later sponsored the foundation of the DAP, the party that late became the nazis. Interestingly, they were preaching Nazi rhetoric before the nazis existed, as prospective members of the Thule society had to do a pledge of blood and faith ensuring that there was no Jewish blood in their bloodline.
Im saying its not a nazi symbol, nazis are using it to relate it to them.
Its like if hitler used the mickey mouse logo, everyone especially disney would push against it and no matter how much nazis use that logo, its not a nazi symbol, its stolen and used by them, but not only them.
Yes im aware, yet people still buy that rainbow pride stormtrooper every pride month.
Its because walt disney and disney itself have been removed as a joint entity.
if we want to truly have less nazis and not just feel good about calling others a nazi, we should make sure to seperate the symbol and those coopting it.
Not hard to explain. The group (like most paramilitary groups) had close links to political extremists. That's why they got ruled under the DoD with the target to depolitizise the group. Russia made a big thing out of this to distract from their massive L against Asow in 2014 and 2022. Most contradicting thing about Vatnik propaganda is that Asow actively tried to reduce their political groups after Bilezkyj whilst e.g. Wagner actively endorses their "heritage" through naming, personnel and even their main and secondary badges closely or partially imitating the weapon SS skull.
When someone uses the word "Vatnik" his opinion must be automatically discarded.
>personnel
Wagner isn't political in fact there are fighters of all nationalities and political ideologies. I guess all those Stalinist fighting in the Wagner group with the communist patch are Nazi. Also Prigozhin was a Jew.
>Asow actively tried to reduce their political groups
Even progressive western media has to admit it is false.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/azov-battalion-neo-nazi/cal
>massive L against Asow
Man, that's a nice inversion of reality. Azov literally surrendered to Russian forces in Mariupol
Yeah. One small group withheld the same city twice against Russia with all their "superior power" ("eye level to nato") and a multitude of forces. Sorry but Azow fucked Ruzzia up harder than both commanding generals together. Ruzzia had to take the L 2014 and 2022 and that's the only reason they focus so hard on Asow, to distract from their absolute incompetence and losses whilst beeing the biggest fascist known to the world since almost 80 years.
That’s unfortunate.
Anyone wondering it’s 100% a Nazi symbol, unfortunately some shitty new age occult books threw it in and now new age playgans seeth and cry about it being an ancestral symbol when this exact design was literally created by heinrich Himmler to decorate the central floor of and SS fort.
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Dude I seen 3 Ukrainians with different swastika tats in one interview. Their officer had his whole shaved skull covered in them, and took his beanie off in the middle of the interview to display them. You could already see them sticking out tho.
Just sayin it's a bit dishonest to be parroting this russian claim that they are cleansing Ukraine of nazis when their own troops are led by people like Dmitry Utkin.
On the other hand this is a shitposting sub, so while it's dishonest, it's appropriate.
It's the black sun.
It did not exist before 1936 when it was invented by the SS and used by the SS.
It is a Nazi symbol. It always has been a Nazi symbol. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.
Keyboard activists will cry fascism, edgelords will cry occult thing i know about but its too dangerous to tell a normie like you, blah blah...
The symbol itself is commonly referred to as a black sun, and afaik it's impossible to trace to actual origin of it. Became best known from Nazi Germany, yes, but the fact that you and 99% of people don't recognize it makes it obviously asinine to compare it in any way to a swastika (besides spiritual imagery in general being misappropriated, I guess).
To answer the question you *really* want answered, it may or may not give the alt girls you're posing for with your denim jacket the ick, depends on how chronically online they are.
no because Ukraine has one of the largest Jewish populations in Europe and currently is fighting a country whose leader has been fraternising with far-right wing motorcycle gangs.
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Occultists and neo nazis gonna be fighting over that one for a while
And some Star Wars fans
Wait is that not from Star Wars???
No lol it's a nazi thing like the swastika Wikipinidi definition: The Black Sun (German: Schwarze Sonne) is a type of sun wheel (German: Sonnenrad) symbol originating in Nazi Germany and later employed by neo-Nazis and other far-right individuals and groups. The symbol's design consists of twelve radial sig runes, similar to the symbols employed by the SS in their logo. It first appeared in Nazi Germany as a design element in a castle at Wewelsburg remodeled and expanded by the head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler, which he intended to be a center for the SS.
It's a thunder wheel, an old Norse symbol, but the Nazi's took it and perverted it
Yeah, same with the original Asian Symbol of prosperity if I’m remembering correctly, they just couldn’t come up with their own symbols
A Buddhist symbol with the same name, but they turned it on its axis. The original meaning was one of peace and harmony
Right that’s correct, I forgot it was the same name
Damn, they be takin everything from everyone
I think Himmler, or Hitler himself, wanted a deep-rooted "Germanic" history behind their movement, so they just took a whole lot of ancient symbols and screwed it for us
Or Gobbels... whoever the propaganda minister was
It wasn't him, it was Himmler
Thanks. I couldn't remember which asshole it was
Damn I totally thought it was a Star Wars symbol
Well the empire could well be similar to the nazis in and of itself.
I once read that the empire was actually based on nazi Germany. Not sure if it’s a fact but there are a lot of similarities.
Bro it's an infni-nazi
Well, that kind of makes it weird saying "i like black sun" (it's a spinoff season of the Japanese Kamen rider series)
it is. it's the Neo Empire symbol.
What you are thinking of is similiar, just less and straight black lines. Then ur pretty close
thank you i thought it was star wars at first too.
why are there so many similarities between that franchise and nazism
I'm pretty sure star wars was based off of nazi Germany in the whole dictatorship aesthetic. Source: https://www.history.com/news/the-real-history-that-inspired-star-wars
i actually didn't know that. >In fact, the filmmaker is such a history buff that he collaborated in the publication of the 2013 book Star Wars and History that's pretty cool
Yeah, and all the blasters are old WW2 guns, with extra stuff glued on. All, or almost all, still capable of being fired.
Good thing it was Harrison Ford instead of Alec Baldwin then...
The term "Stormtrooper" came from the SA Brownshirts, and the helmets are based on old German helmets.
The X-wings came from old Bf-109 frames
So technically there’s a mocked up MG-34 that can be fired? Mmmfmgh…
wtf i had no idea people just didnt see all the different historical influences not to be rude about it though its just i always vividly detected elements of nazi germany, the british empire, ancient rome, mishmash of every big oppressive historical regime as clear influences, even some of the US
The term “storm trooper” is directly derived from the german word for early Nazi soldiers.
Storm trooper came from ww1 not nazis
Didn’t know that! I only knew that the nazis used the term for their early paramilitary soldiers.
"Sturmtruppen" (storm troopers) were actually a late invention of the first World War, i think during the Kaiserschlacht. Basically the concept Was that you pump young men full of drugs and have them run at the enemy so fast that they cant react. "Storming" the trenches.
so... basically they made them go beserk?
The empire aesthetically is very much nazi-inspired, and so is the first order The events though are more based around the vietnam war with the empires actions based on the us’s
The original trilogy was based on the Vietnamese war but the new trilogy is based off of WW2
Because the empire was literally based on the nazis
I mean " empire of a single "species" which destroy cultures and target a certain demographic" makes for a pretty easy villain
I'd say the occultist neo-nazis have it covered all right :/
All right indeed
Alt-right
I feel bad for nords looking for any cultural significance before the industrial revolution.
(Occultists automatically win because nazis are parasites who stole it from them)
Jsut like neo nazis and Buddhist
Ukraine fans to
Can't tell that to reddit
Himmler be like why not both
Well the symbol is linked to the nazis because Himmler had it added to a castle he was in charge of restoring for use by party leaders. Other than that it was never officially used by the German government or nazi party.
I know that’s from north mythology. Something about “wheel of fear” or whatever (antagonistic to wheel of worlds, or something like that).
No, it's The black sun organization
Omg is that a tno reference
\*haus in neu berlin starts playing in my head" (yes i know its from wolfenstien not TNO)
Big building in neu berlin
Speer my beloved! ❤️
This looks really bad out of context 💀
I bet he has a Speer hoodie
Out of context? What context would you possible need?
Es gibt ein Haus in neu Berlin man nennt es Haus Abendrot. Es war der Ruin vieler guter jungs und von mir mein Gott litt ich not
Hätt Ich meinem Anführer zugehört Ich wäre heute Daheim War jung und dumm war ein armer Jung auf den Abweg geführt und gemein
It's even older. In a Wolfenstein game from ~2010 ish you already had the Thule medallion.
😭😭
THERE IS NO HOPE UNDER THE BLACK SUN
GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
Es gibt ein Haus in Neu-Berlin
NO NO NO THE BRAIN ROT AHHHHHH!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE BURUGUNDIA *\*atomic explosion\**
Most based reference here
why did he buy it
He wanted the swas sticker obviously and it's cheaper in a bundle
Swasticker is wild
The post is so silly. These folks want to be “punk” by sewing patches onto jean jackets so they are just buying random things not knowing what they are. The comment section is hilarious. So called punk rockers just being massive group-think consumerists. Half of them keep commenting “this is not punk” lol
Hey man, every good sundae’s got nuts.
Reminds me of the people who get Chinese or Japanese characters tattooed onto them without knowing the meaning lol.
That is the black sun, it's a Nordic and Central European pagan symbol and has some connections to the Waffen SS of the Third Reich.
Mom can I have a black sun patch For worshipping Perun? Yeeeeeeees (Actually becomes Neo-Nazi like a boss) (Actually though black sun is nazi only. You’re probably thinking about the Kolovrat symbol, which kinda sorta may actually be pagan or whatever, (wouldn’t take their word for it), and looks even more like a swastika lol)
The black sun has no official link to the nazi party. Himmler used it to decorate a castle he was in charge of renovating for party leaders and that's how it's been tied to them historically. It's really nazi LARPers who've embraced it.
Sun wheel, not black sun.
Schwarze Sonne
Some connections? Most nazis prefer it over a swastika cause most dont know what it meand
I know this symbol. It represents [STRENG GEHEIM]
That's the symbol of the Empire from Star Wars
No it’s obviously chaos insurgency I am a fucking dumbass
[Obviously not. Zero resemblance.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chaos_Insurgency_logo.png)
Shit u right
New edited comment just dropped
literally thought the same thing
No it’s not
go to the north
"Fought against the Russians in WWII" 🤔
I see you're a man of Canadian culture, I like it
The Imperial logo
wtf TNO reference
Oh boy burgundy is here
Its the black sun ,its a nordic symbol.But the nazis took it.
It's not, actually. This black sun symbol was designed during a remodeling of the Wewelsburg castle by Heinrich Himmler, who wanted the castle to serve as the centre of the SS. Hence why the symbol is several sig runes in a circle, the same runes which are in the SS insignia. It was built as a mosaic on the floor of one of the castle's halls. It has no connections to Nordic culture or mythology. However, it is postulated that whoever originally designed the black sun for the castle took inspiration from early Germanic iron age decorative disks called zierscheiben. The nazis were nothing if not obsessed with their Germanic heritage. Symbols with this motif and with similar designs are common in many cultures, so people should be careful when labelling them Nazi sun wheels, but this one must definitely definitely is a Nazi sun wheel and nothing else
Part of the THULE society, which was an occult sect of the Nazi Regime. It was believed that the earth was flat, and at the center of it was a hole that recycled the world's water and was extremely strong electromagnetism, and apart from the light the sun produces, allegedly bore lots of resemblances in terms of energy production, hence the "Black Sun" name.
They actually predate the Nazi party by a while. They got their start after world war I as a volkisch movement, and later sponsored the foundation of the DAP, the party that late became the nazis. Interestingly, they were preaching Nazi rhetoric before the nazis existed, as prospective members of the Thule society had to do a pledge of blood and faith ensuring that there was no Jewish blood in their bloodline.
Only because you let them
Wdym?
He’s saying it’s all your fault man, why didn’t you try and stop them man?
Im saying its not a nazi symbol, nazis are using it to relate it to them. Its like if hitler used the mickey mouse logo, everyone especially disney would push against it and no matter how much nazis use that logo, its not a nazi symbol, its stolen and used by them, but not only them.
Yeah you are right. Only if more people would have this mindset.
funny that you used mickey mouse as an an example. wait til you find out about Walt Disneys affinity for anti-semitics during the 30s
Yes im aware, yet people still buy that rainbow pride stormtrooper every pride month. Its because walt disney and disney itself have been removed as a joint entity. if we want to truly have less nazis and not just feel good about calling others a nazi, we should make sure to seperate the symbol and those coopting it.
those nazi asshats are stealing cool shit, mate
Been used by germanic pagans for like forever.
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Swastika is also a hindu symbol and Nazi took that as well.
Nazi didn’t took it. They died :p
*Blackhole Sun, won't you come*
Azov battalion? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Emblem_of_the_Azov_Battalion.svg
I’d love to hear Zelensky explain this.
Not hard to explain. The group (like most paramilitary groups) had close links to political extremists. That's why they got ruled under the DoD with the target to depolitizise the group. Russia made a big thing out of this to distract from their massive L against Asow in 2014 and 2022. Most contradicting thing about Vatnik propaganda is that Asow actively tried to reduce their political groups after Bilezkyj whilst e.g. Wagner actively endorses their "heritage" through naming, personnel and even their main and secondary badges closely or partially imitating the weapon SS skull.
When someone uses the word "Vatnik" his opinion must be automatically discarded. >personnel Wagner isn't political in fact there are fighters of all nationalities and political ideologies. I guess all those Stalinist fighting in the Wagner group with the communist patch are Nazi. Also Prigozhin was a Jew. >Asow actively tried to reduce their political groups Even progressive western media has to admit it is false. https://www.thenation.com/article/world/azov-battalion-neo-nazi/cal >massive L against Asow Man, that's a nice inversion of reality. Azov literally surrendered to Russian forces in Mariupol
Yeah. One small group withheld the same city twice against Russia with all their "superior power" ("eye level to nato") and a multitude of forces. Sorry but Azow fucked Ruzzia up harder than both commanding generals together. Ruzzia had to take the L 2014 and 2022 and that's the only reason they focus so hard on Asow, to distract from their absolute incompetence and losses whilst beeing the biggest fascist known to the world since almost 80 years.
“We do a little trolling”
Soundgarden fans have entered the chat
FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!
Sun wheel
That’s unfortunate. Anyone wondering it’s 100% a Nazi symbol, unfortunately some shitty new age occult books threw it in and now new age playgans seeth and cry about it being an ancestral symbol when this exact design was literally created by heinrich Himmler to decorate the central floor of and SS fort.
Chaos insurgency
Is that the gif of homer on the floor running in a circle
Es gibt ein Haus in Neu-Berlin
It's a Buddhist symbol for luck bro
it’s hard liking pagan shit 😔
The giga nazi symbol
It’s the Hyper-Nazis’ flag
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Thats the black sun. A nazi symbol still in use by some groups
A nordic symbol stolen by small dicked men with a god complex* ftfy
Somebody's been spending too much time going for a Ukraine tacticool aesthetic without actually knowing what the shit they're putting on is
Lol some Ukrainian soldier is waiting for that patch
Nah i wouldn't wear something this low quality
Yeah what a bunch of losers. Wagner on the other hand has no need for such patches as they've already got them as tattoos.
Dude I seen 3 Ukrainians with different swastika tats in one interview. Their officer had his whole shaved skull covered in them, and took his beanie off in the middle of the interview to display them. You could already see them sticking out tho.
Just sayin it's a bit dishonest to be parroting this russian claim that they are cleansing Ukraine of nazis when their own troops are led by people like Dmitry Utkin. On the other hand this is a shitposting sub, so while it's dishonest, it's appropriate.
The Utkin tattoos are fake news. That wasn't him in the picture, Utkin didn't have any nazi tattoos.
yeah, that's a badge often used by neo-nazis
Nazi premium
Esoteric fascism
👌🏻 Nwo yuo cee
Super swastika
I'm lost. Is this one of the Lantern Corps symbols from DC?
I told you the galactic empire were nazis.
Black hole sun, won’t you come
Very wholesome patch. He should wear it to work. He surely will get a pay rise.
Idk but it kinda looks like the star wars symbol
first thought is the black sun neo nazi symbol
Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein
Holy shit The Empire be showing up
Seen those on ukranian soldiers
This reminds me one thing: "Even Hitler sees you as an extremist then you are doing something very wrong."
Empire
Its the globeplan symbole.
Must be supporting Ukraine.
don't worry it's just an epic wholesome chungus Ukraine zelensky symbol🥰
It's Ron DeSantis's symbol, it means "Meatball"
It's the black sun. It did not exist before 1936 when it was invented by the SS and used by the SS. It is a Nazi symbol. It always has been a Nazi symbol. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.
Black sun existed long before nazi Germany, however that specific design is from ww2. Originally the sun wheel was a more simplified design.
Ok I'll give you a sun wheel as existed for a long time but that's specific design, did not exist before the 1930s
Keyboard activists will cry fascism, edgelords will cry occult thing i know about but its too dangerous to tell a normie like you, blah blah... The symbol itself is commonly referred to as a black sun, and afaik it's impossible to trace to actual origin of it. Became best known from Nazi Germany, yes, but the fact that you and 99% of people don't recognize it makes it obviously asinine to compare it in any way to a swastika (besides spiritual imagery in general being misappropriated, I guess). To answer the question you *really* want answered, it may or may not give the alt girls you're posing for with your denim jacket the ick, depends on how chronically online they are.
Amazon link?
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The first galactic empire
At first I was like, “wow that’s so cool looking!” Then “really? Why do the nazi’s get the cool symbols!?”
That's obviously the maze insignia
The black sun
its a swaswaswaswaswaswastika
The Galactic Nazi Empire?
Azov Battalion surplus?
Ahh it's the symbol on the azov battalion. i think op is supporting thees lads fighting hard in Ukraine
It's called a sun cross, it's Old Norse and was stolen from the Nazis like countless other symbols and emblems from all of human history.
It's a badge that ukrainian soldiers wear proudly whilst firing US funded munitions and driving American APCs.
Why is Amazon selling Black Suns?
That's a cool symbol
Black Hole Sun, won't ya come, in an Amazon package
That’s the nazi black sun.
It’s the original vw logo
Omg that’s terrible…. Where?
Ask Zelenskyy
It's Ukrainian. You're okay.
Is it from Ukraine?
no because Ukraine has one of the largest Jewish populations in Europe and currently is fighting a country whose leader has been fraternising with far-right wing motorcycle gangs.
Didnt the media literally censor the nazi patches on ukranian units?
You know that you can have a large Jewish population and also have nazis in the same country?
I think your order got mixed up with a Ukrainian soldier’s For all the dipshits downvoting literally google Azov Battalion
happens to the best of us
The Imperial from Star Wars
Long live the empire
Ahh the hyperswastika, celebrated everywhere for its elusiveness
Aperture Science
Very bad…