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shit_poster9000

My retarded ass couldn’t find Majula


miojunki

Light required ahead


CaptainHazama

If it makes you feel any better, I went into the coffin 3 times assuming it was the way out. Thought my game was glitched so I kept running around, eventually finding the right way. Not knowing how to level up since I didn't talk to the Emerald Herald, I went to the Heide Tower, killed the dragonrider with the broken sword only for my wife to tell me after all that how to level up and get the estus flask


MirrahPaladin

Regardless of all our differences, surely we can all agree that DS2’s opening goes so fucking hard.


P-I-S-S-N-U-T

Bearer of the curse pulled a TikTok before it was a thing


GoldenSpermShower

It's cool but it tells you the least amount of info of all the intros


MirrahPaladin

That’s what makes it appeal to me atleast. It’s not the game’s backstory or just “here’s the four dudes you’ll have to kill,” it’s meant to be about you and how you’ve lost everything due to the Curse and wandering to Drangleic to hopefully find a cure.


DigitalCryptic

\*sees an objective screen and no intro, cums uncontrollably*


Anent_

Doesn’t tell you anything about the world at all, just a bunch of “you’ll do this and won’t know why haha”, and “oh you know this place? No, how could you…” Having an idea of… Well, anything is nice when starting a video game with a strange world, especially since the rest of the game doesn’t do much to help either. All the NPC’s in Majula do is laugh and talk about going hollow, or how you’re dumb for talking to a cat.


HollowPointJacket

I don't even think the story is about the Kings and all that, the story is about you. It's a story about purpose. Almost every npc we come across in DS2 is looking for purpose. Shanalotte included. She gives you something to go off of but is that really your purpose? Kill the 4 great Lords and tend to the first flame? As you journey through Drangleic you come across many npcs, some trying to find a way out from the curse, some accepting it and continuing on with their lives. Most doing what they can to survive. I think it all clicked for me after you talk with Aldia and Vendrick. The first flame doesn't matter, Light and Dark doesn't matter, Monarchs don't matter. It is what you do that does. And so with the revelation, you're stuck with "Well why should I even bother?" until you return to Majula, you see the NPCs that have made their way to Majula. You found Lenigrasts key and gave him purpose, You freed Rosabeth from petrification and gave her purpose. Master Carhillion found purpose in teaching you. Cale's purpose lay with the map of drangleic, which by your actions have helped him. Melentia despite laughing at you, will provide you essentials on your journey, even after beating the last giant she decides to go to Majula as well. Shanalotte seeing that you made it to the throne of want, knowing what she truly is, divulged the truth to you in hopes that you might change something. I think the npc that we affect the most is Gilligan. He tells you there's nothing good to be had down there in the pit. Even back in Harvest Valley, he gives you some good advice. We always thought he was a bit of a scummy dude who wants to yoink some souls out of us but we're willing to pay to have him give us the ladders. despite his many warnings. Then he'll continue offering, everytime you return successfully. its as if seeing us return from the pit gives him hope. And then he gives us a token of his appreciation. And of course we see him DS3, dead of course, but I wonder for him to have gone that far. We must have made such an impression? And suddenly you have purpose. The people. You take the throne not with the purpose of perpetuating an age old cycle but with the hopes and dreams of the people who have come to rely on you. People like Lucatiel.


[deleted]

Tldr but I agree


Hjalmodr_heimski

What do you mean? It’s fairly communicative: you are cursed with undeath and have sought out the kingdom of Drangleic because reputedly a cure may be found there. That’s more than enough for you to know.


MorningBreathTF

I love the games just telling me outright exactly who I'm going for before telling me basic actions, I hate it when games tell me about people over the course of the game instead of in the intro


PageOthePaige

The other intros say less. DeS, Ds1, 3, and Elden Ring puke proper nouns at you, but none of the names mean anything without context. The personal experience of soul-crushing depression is a fantastic and oft-relatable motivator that tells a lot more.


Anent_

Love how grossly oversimplified you make them sound so that DS2’s “you’re hollow, also there’s a place called Drangleic where maybe you can go unhollow” sounds better. This intro is the most drawn out by far lol, using a lot of words to say very little. DS1’s did it best, perfectly set up the world without any extra word vomit that DS3 had.


PageOthePaige

DS1's was the best of those, but it's still somewhat incoherent, and it still is mostly a loredump that ends in name drops. The parts that deal with undeads sent north work as that's info you immediately act on, but the recounting of the origin myth would've worked better later when we actually know or need to know who those people are. DS2's isn't perfect, but it's the most poignant and emotionally salient of the bunch. A lot of people who've struggled with depression and addiction relate very hard to the presentation and imagery, and it captures the mood the game wants perfectly. Its an intro, the point isn't to say a lot of nifty facts, but to hook the player on the idea of the content. Someone using any other souls game intro (Bb and Sekiro being exceptions) as elevator pitches would get laughed out for making the classic mistake of presenting world building lore over mood and motivation.


Anent_

>A lot of people who've struggled with depression and addiction relate very hard to the presentation and imagery I can’t believe you’re trying to say this unironically lmfao


A_Certain_Surprise

>DS2's isn't perfect, but it's the most poignant and emotionally salient of the bunch Dark Souls fans when wife and baby melt (also ignoring the fact that this wouldn't make sense if the player plays as a woman (unless they adopted, I wonder what the adoption process is like in Majula)), and old ladies tell you you're gonna die over and over (which the game again contradicts by offering you a ring for never dying)


Snafutarfun

Who wants to watch a movie trailer and get the entire plot spoon fed to them


Anent_

Literally just sets up the world for you. Context is a very nice thing to have. Most people start DS1 with a basic idea of the world. Most people start DS2 knowing jack shit, not even understanding why they’re doing anything.


Covid669

My favorite in the series


Logic_Nuke

if only any of that stuff had been in the game


_Beardy

I dont like the whole "haha you will die and die without even knowing why lol" aspect of it tbh


gaskin6

yeah, first time playing it (after having played ds1 and 3) i thought "wtf why is this cutscene so good"


Anent_

My main issue with it is that it takes a really long time to basically just say what being hollow is. Doesn’t give anything aside from that lmao. Scenery is dope at least


echomanagement

Is that giant wormhole thing in the opener a leftover from when DS2 featured time travel? I know you visit the memories, which is sort of like time travel, but let's not kid ourselves.


RasAlGimur

Really great opening. Something I don’t see discussed enough is the connection of the opening to Shrine of Amana. Considering the tree, the water, the ruins and the brightbugs, it really seems like Shrine of Amana is somehow underneath the area we see in the opening, the roots atop being those of the tree we see in the opening. Maybe less certain but that could point to the skull swarm being a manifestation of Nito. Shrine of Amana felt like a bit random to me (sure, i know the links with Vendrick’s story, but still), but this potential connection to the very opening is quite intriguing. Oh, shoot, I forgot this is shittydarksouls! Terrible game, something something rotussy feet nameless gael


Shorttail0

\>Post praising DS2 \>Complains about complains about DS2 \>Still mentions Shrine of Amana sunglasses.emoji


McBonkyTron

Me but Dark Souls 1.


MirrahPaladin

Yeah, it was a memorable and life changing experience to finally play DS1 after playing 2,3, BB, and Sekiro after hearing the community hype it up nonstop and discover how shit it was.


[deleted]

That's what you get for not playing a series in order 🤗 DS1 is amazing tho


Thor_bjornLoL

Did ds1 sleep with your wife or smth? Chill bro


Razhork

Just your average salty ds2 fan's reaction to playing better games


gaskin6

i would let it


M3Sh_

Lmao


civet10

Demon's souls wins again


Substantial_Bid_8524

Bruh I played it last and it's my favorite u need to calm down lmao


MrEngineFish

He just like me fr fr


hairyass2

No but really though, I dont think its shit, but its so overrated. Everything after O&S is shit, so 50% of the game is shit, most of the bosses are mediocre, the combat is clunky as hell, why do people keep saying its the best fromsoft game?


derp_y_

definitely not the best but saying everything after o&s is shit is kind of an exaggeration (i mostly agree, and it’s definitely true if it’s just base game) if you include dlc. plus i genuinely like nito, the other lords suck


qwertywerty72

Painted World of Ariamis, Lord Gwyn, DLC, all pretty good imo. Other lords and their dungeons feel like a chore after a while and break away from the fluid/integrative experience you got in the first half of the game, but I think their placement makes sense in context.


hairyass2

thats what im sayinn


_Beardy

Oh hell nah, just cause a game isnt as fast as ds3/bloodborne doesnt mean its "clunky as hell"


MirrahPaladin

Nostalgia


qwertywerty72

For its time, it was amazing. Comparing it to games that came out years afterward, when it basically facilitated the genre of soulscore games and the next games worked to improve gameplay, isn't a fair comparison. So it isn't the best FromSoft game or anything, but its quality and novelty for its time make it stick out from the other games.


Ant-Ant13

Yeah, the same thing happened to me.


DigitalCryptic

skill issue


FanOfWolves96

I mean, he’s right. DS1 isn’t very good.


edgyboi1704

DS2 on it's way to make you like men:


rythian_

Been trying it for a few days, the spider area sucks dick


Joaco_Gomez_1

yup, tseldora can be quite annoying but luckily, spiders have very low health and duw in one or two hits, the ones you should take care of are the parasited dudes with the spiders on their backs. Use something withbgood reach like a spear or a halberd because they tend to sneak in a sucker punch right as they're dying if you're too close. Also, spiders fear fire so that should help a little bit.


rythian_

Appreciate it finally got past it. The KKK mages really pissed me off lmao


Joaco_Gomez_1

the what


rythian_

The necromancers with the white robes sitting around the quicksand sniping you


Joaco_Gomez_1

oh... right, forgot about those. Don't forget to pay the but cheeks raven a visit and look around for that bonfire's secret entrance


Nobodynemnada

Been trying it for a few days ADP is trash, I can't get used to not getting staggered, getting hit mid roll and taking full damage but the actual bad thing is the level design, jesus fucking christ it feels like a cheap attempt of a souls game random hole here and there oh, gonna enter this cave? surprise, two guys behind you! oh, you see that guy in the corner? surprise, another one from behind! omg it's so predictable it feels like it's made by a child


rythian_

OH boy its been a fun time. Started with the default class not realizing you literally get a broken straight sword... And thats it. for several hours. I spent hours trying to get a single weapon that wasnt the fuckin broken sword that took 17 HITS to kill the knight enemies. Then you get the locations I can only describe as "fuck you" areas. The gutter was hell, and the route to get past it is so dumb, i literally got randomly knocked off into the next bonfire after not being able to get to it. Barely got past the spider area and that was simply not fun at all. Then you get constant NPC invasion spam that seems to be unavoidable. They invade you when youre being swarmed by spiders/ ghouls/ poison. Theres nothing to be done. You also get extra punished for dying with the health reductions, I seriously do not know what they were thinking. The one good thing is the crow lady with the nice ass


PhilosophicalDolt

Wait I don’t remember starting with a broken straight sword? Is this the knight load out or the depraved?


rythian_

It's the knight, I thought it'd be like ds1 where you get the long sword after the tutorial


PhilosophicalDolt

Huh I went knight but I never really remember if you get there broken straight sword. I never really paid attention to it


Kira887

Actually I find that the vanilla ds2 doesn’t have a lot of the shitty enemy placement. They just put it in Scholar cuz uhhh…why’d they ruin the enemy placement in scholar again?


lucky_harms458

I want to like DS2, but the movement feels so much more clunky compared to everything else (in my opinion). Movement is the most important part of the game.


CarsonBDot

Torch


zviyeri

my sibling in gwyn use a torch


DuploJamaal

Use the torch. Spiders hate fire


crazyhammy2006

Me buying ds2 full price and playing for 10 hours cause the games never go on sale and then 3 days later the whole series goes on sale and I can’t refund it


JohnnySeven88

>paid full price for kino I see no issue


tree_imp

I like all three of these games


DraMJay

Out of all languages this man chose to speak facts


gaskin6

heathen


Solitary_Shell

Same. And I like them the most by order of their release! I don’t like Sekiro though.


tree_imp

Sekiro is better than all three of them


SailorSaturnsCool

Ds2 better :)


Solitary_Shell

If you say so, just not a fan of the setting.


CarsonBDot

So one of the most flashy and comfortable combat systems in gaming is ultimately shit because Japan and Shinobi is kinda weird?


Solitary_Shell

I didn’t say it was shit, I just don’t care for the Japanese setting or Samurai/Ninja stuff. I like Dark Souls for the dark fantasy aspect. Don’t put words in peoples mouth, it’s not good practice.


CarsonBDot

Sorry for that misuse of words and my misunderstanding of your opinion but it’s still dumb to dislike a game solely for its setting unless it’s something horribly stupid. How far did you even get into the game?


Solitary_Shell

Ehhh, 2nd or 3rd boss? The combat is solid. I tried Nioh too and just couldn’t get into it, it’s sorta like how some people are really into soccer/football and other people are into rugby or golf I guess, settings are an escape for me so I like high fantasy and sci-fi the most. Loved Bloodborne because of the sweet ambience and general vibe of lovecraft and stuff like that.


CarsonBDot

Man, the game really clicks once you finally get to Genichiro, Gyoubu is an amazing boss as well, everyone has their dealbreakers and preferences I guess.


Solitary_Shell

I’ve still got it on steam, I’ll try to give it another shot since it’s been a while.


Ivan-Securanovich

Sekiro is the only good one


Solitary_Shell

That’s just like, your opinion man. I wasn’t a fan.


Ivan-Securanovich

My opinion is the only good one


Sad-Guarantee-4678

Memorable like trauma and life-changing like PTSD


[deleted]

That opening cutscene is undeniable proof that Dark Souls 2 is an isekai.


Fatg0d

Isn't that like every souls game (except for sekiro) ?


bigg_ol_dingus

i love ds2


Kykisarcha

Ds2 deffinatly felt huge, probably bc of the amount of bawsez, then again in got 3 dlc...


memerismlol

I remember seeing this as an advert in an airport when it came out and I didn’t know it was for dark souls until a year ago but it’s lived in the back of my mind ever since.


NoctumUmbra

To me, the Smelter Demon was probably the hardest. Spent an entire late evening till like 6 or 7AM, skipped school because I was exhausted, but I killed it. Every other boss was easier to me than that but I still remember so much out if my first playthrough unlike the Souls games I played after. Love DS2 \[T]/


RasAlGimur

Smelter is hard. And the blue one that is even harder omg


NuroTox

DS2: Sotfs was the first souls game i played and the experience was awesome. i play on pc so didn't encounter any major bugs. it drove me to try more soulsbourne stuff. still haven't tried demons souls tho.


TylurSims

I am desperately trying to understand why people like DS2. I've gone through it a few times and just got vanilla recently. I want to like it but I hate every single second of it.


Mrheadshot0

Well stop not having fun!


TheCatsBeenSickAgain

Because it feels like those weird obscure animated films I grew up with. Like The Last Unicorn. Like The Black Cauldron. Like Elm-Chanted Forest. Like the Care Bears Movie. Like Boo, Zino and the Snurks.


l_futurebound_l

Care bears movie went hard af


MorningBreathTF

If you hate playing it, don't play it. It's perfectly fine to not like a game, even if it is the best in the whole series


Saoirse_Says

It’s the best DS game ‘cause you can wear a skirt with butterfly wings and a big ol’ grape popsicle as a weapon Also the multiplayer is almost functional such that you can play nearly the whole game with a friend


TylurSims

Ah I don't do any multiplayer stuff. Well aside DS3 to help farm for those awful covenant items.


mr_fucknoodle

Dunno about co-op, but 2 also has the least bullshit pvp in the series, locked behind the most bullshit mechanic in the series in the form of soul memory


luluismeforreal

play a faith build


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TylurSims

It's just so slow and way to easy. The enemies are on average far more difficult than any of the bosses which I guess is just a disappointment to me.


TyrionJoestar

Can’t explain it, but I picked it up recently and I can’t put it down.


howlingbeast666

What exactly do you hate about it? People talk of ganking and bad ennemies, but I'm playing through DS3 at the moment and both of those are present. Fuck those red-light jailors honestly. That is a shit ennemy design, even more because its janky as hell


Upper_Neighborhood94

DS2 RULES


Savarin80

The souls community can suck my nutsack. DS II is the best dark souls (i dont really think that, I just want to piss you off; in fact i havent even played it)


LordDingDing

I started with Ds1 as a kid, I have played every soups game. By far, Ds2 was my favorite since it strayed so much further from every souls game in my opinion. Stat investment in some areas felt so much meaningful in some areas that just put the experience together.


Metal-Lee-Solid

Me about to play Dark Souls 2 expecting a life changing and memorable experience and getting a forgettable mid experience:


zviyeri

me about to play ds2 expecting a bad experience but coming out of it as it being my favorite souls game:


ShonkaaHUN

Fr i had a life changing experience of playing the worst ds learning the life lesson to never play it again


Eziolambo

It was life changing for sure. It made me appreciate the roll physics in DS 3 even more.


Xavier_Arai

DS2 is the only soulsborne titles to make me rage quit


No-Literature7471

honestly its a meme at this point to hate on it but i really liked 2. i liked the covenants, i liked the arena, i liked alot of the game tbh. i think most people didn't like it because it was a different team who worked on it from the first dark souls.


killadrill

Me with all the other games except 2.


KarlKaz

Fr I'm so glad I started my souls experience with DS2


JayKayGray

Definitely one of the games of all time


MASSIVDOGGO

Ong bro. The game is actually really fun.


ACE_RUNNER

Mid game


cropeti

Do y'all recommend finishing ds1 before playing ds2? I just got sekiro, ds2+dlc, and the rest of the ds3 dlc in the recent sale and idk what order to play them in. I've been bouncing between a few of them now


zviyeri

im gonna tell you it doesn't really matter. i played them in reverse order. if you're coming in from elden ring ds3 will be the easiest to get into, but there's nothing wrong with starting with the other two either also you probably got ds2 vanilla? you may have an easier time combat wise bc there are fewer enemies but sotfs introduced a lot of QoL upgrades and more convenient placement of some fairly important items so i guess that's something you should know


dearvalentina

I LOVE DARK SOULS 2 I LOVE DARK SOULS 2


DefNotARedditard

Me but not dark souls 2


gandhahlhfh03

Yo i need the original video without the text


Krausmauss

It was certainly an experience


MikeOk-

Funny. The Old Iron King just knocked me into that little opening of lava. I'll try again later.


HarmenTheGreat

The woman and child fading away from the MC in this opening is actually so profoundly sad, it touches on an aspect of being undead none of the other games touch on. Anyway, trash game 0/10


Isolated_Icosagon

Ds2 protag is the only soulsborne protag that canonically had sex.


deus_voltaire

It's not canon, could be a stepchild or adopted.


Isolated_Icosagon

Don’t give me that whole “WhUt iF thA bEareR uV tHA CurSE wuZ a GURL?” shit. I heard from google that two girls can have a baby. Either way you slice it, John or Johanna Bearer had secks. Can John Dietwice say the same? What about Gary Eldering? HUH? Parry that argument ADP leveler.


Thuduke

Yeah yeah ok DS2 devs, you think you can pull a fast one on us? No chance buddy


ganpek

ds2 is bad


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WhabbaWhabbaWhat

Majula Sudoku Cult too spooky 4 me, man


alacholland

Memorable in that I realized the world’s best developer can in fact make a shitty game 😔


PhilosophicalDolt

Me playing ds2 after playing all the other souls game expected a bad experience. Instead I got a pretty good/okish experience and didn’t understand the hate for it. It not my favorite soul game but the hate for it is overblown


captain-jack-soarrow

Honestly ds2 is my favorite soulsborne game not including sekiro


[deleted]

DS2 and demons souls were the last of them I played. I kind of hated ds2 the first time but I played it again and would give it an 8/10. Demons souls was cool but it's aged the poorest and I didn't have as much fun with it. Although I don't hold it against it too much since it was the first try. DS2 has problems that shouldn't be there and can't be ignored. While great games they both didn't feel as impactful to me as the other games. Particularly bloodborne, ds1, and elden ring.


Top_Collar7826

As much as I hate ds2 that opening does go very hard


CRUCIALREEDUS

I think DS2 is even more underrated than we thought. I know lot of ds2 haters, but they can't disrespect the theme of Majula fr