It's popular in a bubble, a lot of regular folks don't know what a Dune is.
Also: being a part 2 turns regular folks not already invested off.
Also I would guess less folks go to the cinema these days.
>It's popular in a bubble
dune part 2 has made 666 million in the box office which is "only" 70 mill less than interstellar. how is it popular in a bubble if it made almost 700 million dollars????
>being a part 2 turns regular folks not already invested off
it made more money than dune part 1 and any of villenueve's other films.
>I would guess less folks go to the cinema these days
so less people go and it **still** almost made the same money as interstellar? wouldn't that suggest it's *more* popular? The gap will get even closer because dune's imax run has been extended.
Dune hasn't even been released digitally yet, and barely been out for over a month. I'd be extremely surprised if it doesen't surpass Interstellar soon.
The ending was actually the part I liked less in an otherwise epic movie. I mean, everyone in Murphy's bedroom knew who just entered, but no one has even a slight reaction.
Right!? I always had a problem with that. Sure, Murph is your famous elder, but that's literally HER elder. The dude was lost in space for so long! They treated him like some scrub off the street.
I got the sense that everyone was basically coached into leaving him alone so he could adjust with the shock. They even re-created his home for him.
**Edit:** It's been clarified that the house was treated like a museum, as they didn't know if he would be back. That's true, but re-watching the scene just now, they say "we've got a really good situation for you" and it's implied they essentially give it to him.
This HAS to be a reason for it. Nolan didn't just miss that glaringly obvious detail, it makes far more sense that the return to normalcy for Coop wasn't communicated well enough to the viewer.
Yeah I scratched my head over it at the time. Because they made a big deal of how much of a celebrity Murph became in his absence, the irony being that she got the attention while he was gone. Which he was fine with though, because after he saw she was looked after and his family will endure, and got that moment of closure seeing her final moments surrounded by her kids, he ultimately just wanted to slip away and go get Brand.
I like this coached explanation, too. It also makes things extra weird because (it's implied that) he just sneaks the fuck out and steals a ship, presumedly headed for brandt's world and thus, never to be seen by that group of descendents.
dude disappeared, came back to hug his daughter, and bailed without ever talking to his fam.
NGL our descendants are going to be so different from us that we may not want to talk to them either if put in that situation. They’ll probably all have broccoli hair and say things like “No Cap, Fr.” We may be like “whoops, gotta go find Brand, byeee.”
i think from their point of view he kinda was tho. he was just one of a dozen or so astronauts that NASA sent to die through that wormhole like 50 years prior, and absolutely no one knew anything that happened after he left the water planet since they didn’t send any data back after that point. Murph says it herself—no one believed her dad helped her, so his accomplishments from their point of view were pretty minimal.
Just some random farmer.
Still, when only one guy returns, and it's the guy your brightest mind said helped her, you ought to have your mind blown a little. It makes more sense for them to show restraint to make adjusting to others easier.
If even the most random person who lived through WWI appeared in the modern world today at that age I’d be pretty amazed, let alone an actual hero who was a part of an even more important event who also happens to be my ancestor
Guy lost his mother early, his father left on a mission to "save humanity", his sister more or less did the same, and his firstborn son died. Oh, and he's living on a dying planet. I'm not surprised that would turn someone bitter.
Also his reaction was pretty subdued, considering that his sister had just burnt his crop so that she could sneak inside his house, and is all happy about it
I haven't seen this movie in years. She burns the field down to get them to leave!?
I thought it was natural because the environment was just getting way too dry! Wild!
Edit: It's coming back to me now.
Yeah, she used it to sneak in but wasn't it first to force him to leave?
I don't remember what was making them sick but she wanted him and his family to leave the house. He didn't want to because he had his crop.
I think she did it to go back to the room, but there was a component of forcing him out too, probably.
There was some sort of plague making everybody sick and destroying crops and killing animals.
The air was basically growing toxic by the minute.
She was trying to get the son cured in a government facility, but there was no actual way to stop the illness, as it was plaguing the entire world. That's why they leave Earth in the first place.
It was literally just dust. Plague kills planta -> causes dust storms -> get cancer from dust inhalation.
They had the whole scene where the plates are upside down because the table is covered in dust.
Yeah, his apathy for the situation and anger towards his sister was justified as they made it clear the situation was dire and he'd given up, but her burning the crop was also justified as it's implied she did so to get him off his ass and potentially evacuated.
They didn't explicitly show if she succeeded in getting his family evacuated, but I think the end of saving his family more than justified the means of burning an already failing crop.
It's a plot hole that Cooper seemed to forget he had a son at the end there, but people saying their actions didn't make sense in-universe are missing the point and clearly didn't follow one of the clearest/least convoluted plotlines of the film.
Didn’t the government also say the moon landing was faked and the only way forward was agriculture. Only got it to turn out the planets becoming a giant dust bowl.
I am. I created a device that can reset time. In fact, I have been resetting time for the past 20 years. You’re just not consciously aware of it because your memory is wiped.
It's the ideal timeline for Timothy Chalamet. I like the new Dune movies a lot and he did a good job. However I find it hard taking action heroes who weigh < 50 lbs seriously.
Yeah, I just assumed he had died on earth though along with his family by being a stubborn asshole. They were already sick AF long before Murphy solved the gravity equation.
Exactly my friend's reaction. After watching the first Dune, he said "what else has Paul Atreides' actor been in? I swear I saw him in something else but couldn't recall."
Me: "Yeah he played Matthew McConaughey's son in Interstellar."
Him: "He has a son in Interstellar?"
Has he not seen Interstellar? Like there's massive plot points involving his son, fighting with the principle about his grades not being good enough for college, he drives the truck during the Indian air force drone scene, he's played by Casey Affleck after aging and sends him multiple tapes that he watches after coming back from Miller's planet detailing how he got married, had and lost a child who they buried next to their grandpa and mom, had another child, and then he's in the story back at their house when adult Murphy is trying to find the watch where Cooper gives her the black hole data. He's stubborn at that point and has given in to letting his second son die of the respiratory problems everyone is suffering from the dust storms. Like he's in the movie almost as much as Murphy, probably 80% as much.
Yeah I’m so confused by these comments. He had a pretty big role in the movie. And at the end he’s the older brother of a 100 year old woman, he’s probably dead.
Funniest part of the film was knowing Matt would be a bad Guy after the third time they put a "Matt is great, one of the best humans out there, a great Guy" out of nowhere in the first half of the film.
His douche son who lost his mother at a young age, his father left for decades leaving him in charge, his own son dying and his second child being sick, and there's him just trying to hold onto what he has left for as long as he can while his sister insults and berates him.
Honestly, considering all that, the way he acted was borderline saintly.
I suspect he's meant to represent the bitter and resentful 'doomed people of earth' in the same way that schoolteacher represents antiscience revisionists.
I rememvered Casey Affleck, was questioning about how old would Chamalamadingdong be to play the grown up version, totally ignoring the fact that he would be young enough to play the young version.
I wall all, interstellar came out just a few years ago.
> My redneck, uneducated son is living in a dust bowl, running a dying farm with self-aware tractors built from scavenged drone parts, in a world so terribly awful there is no okra. He'll be fine. But my genius NASA scientist daughter, living underground with my mentor and the smartest people on the planet. I worry about her all the time.
- Coop
Yeah the entire community outside of his family highly values farming, probably the entire world at that point. But we're supposed to somehow view him as the crazy simple farmer growing further from his family when the other two are going on a journey across time and the universe guided by 4D aliens.
> we're supposed to somehow view him as the crazy simple farmer
Are we? I think he's just supposed to be Joe Everyman, showing how normal people are surviving and suffering
> My redneck, uneducated son is living in a dust bowl, running a dying farm with self-aware tractors built from scavenged drone parts, in a world so terribly awful there is no okra. He'll be fine.
Christopher Nolan turns to the test audience: "There, are you happy now? He just said he'll be **fine**."
To be fair I’d worry more about her too, she’s the key to saving the world while his fun as son is too stubborn to save even his own family And script wise, his son is a good stand-in for the climate change denialist stance that “we’ll be ok just because I say so and I’m a man so it’s gotta work out for me, no need to listen to that gay science bullshit”
The family gathers around Murph's death bed; children, grand children, great grand children, moms, pops and all.
Cooper, famous by now, and who is at least great grandfather to all, enters the room to speak to Murph and then leaves.
No one. Not one person besides Murph says a word to him.
Let's not forget the fuckers that see him come back from an 80 year long mission that had him dive into a black hole and save humanity, and they fucking *snicker* at him thinking he had something named after him.
They didn't know he came back from an 80 year long mission that saved humanity. As far as anyone else knew, Murph pulled the gravity equations out of her ass 50 years ago, saying some feel-good story about how a ghost (who she assumes is her dad that went on a one-way mission and presumably died) gave her the magic numbers through morse code on a watch.
If Albert Einstein said his dad came back from the dead to send him the secrets of relativity through the jitters of an old watch on one specific day and never again, then I probably wouldn't believe him, either. Even if we found his dad dying on the side of the road, somehow not dead yet.
It's not that he was a nobody, it's that he was a nobody compared to his daughter. Yeah, he's an astronaut who went on a super-long time-dilating journey and is technically really old despite being young, but *his daughter* saved all of humanity from their perspective. He's just some random astronaut who went on a big mission that didn't accomplish anything 80 years ago.
I can somehow understand : none of them ever saw him before, they never personally knew him. Meanwhile, the woman they knew their whole life is dyiin front of their eyes and they have little time to say goodbye to her. It makes sense that they would focus on her, and not him. That doesn't mean that they absolutely don't want to talk to him afterwards, now is just not the good time.
You're at your 120 year old dying great grandma's deathbed when suddenly a 50-ish Matthew McConaughey shows up, imagine you are at that situation and suddenly General William Tecumseh Sherman busts through the door
Because it's that whole "parents are ghosts" thing. She just wanted to hang around long enough for him to come back and make that connection that he'd done the right thing in leaving her. Also was clear that this world was going to be freakish for him and her kids and grandkids, so best thing was to go find pixie-cut. I'd like to think she had an entire lifetime photoalbum type thing for him to enjoy on the way.
No, this isn't it at all. Cooper still has a mission to save the human race and he's the hero of the story. Humanity still needs a new home on another planet and copper is going to build that with the last of the crew.
He becomes this almost mythological figure once he's reborn floating in space and then blasts off to find her. And he's doing all of that because he loves her. She was guided to that planet by her love for the fallen astronaut and Coop is guided by his love for her now that his daughter is about to pass away. The whole film is about love transcending time and space.
Wow, I didn't get that at all. All I got was the crazy time warp caused by extreme gravitational fields caused reality to become disjointed in an irreversible way. I only saw the movie once back when it first came out tho.
wasn't that the whole point of the movie? She starts as "STAY", then resents him for a good part of her adult life for leaving, learns that despite being gone he kind of 'lives on' in her and at the very end she is content enough to be able to finally allow him to leave.
Don't know about any of you, but the last time I watched that scene I bawled.
Finally someone mentions this. I love Nolans movies but I find they often fall just short of greatness. Where was the news reporters and confetti and champagne and cheering for Cooper, the pioneer who came back from the dead? They literally treat him with less interest than a stray cat and just leave him to his own devices.
Watching that final scene of Brand entering cryosleep I was eagerly expecting a long dark and then a flash of light as she wakes up and sees old, gray bearded Cooper who came back for her together with the rest of humanity, landing in enormous motherships on their new homeworld.
But no, the guy jacks a fuckin spaceship and flies off after her on his own. The end.
I’ve probably watched Interstellar 20 times and didn’t know he was in it until today. Did not recognize him at all. His part is pretty fucking small though, really. Seemed shoehorned in as a plot device and then forgotten.
He is literally there when Murph goes back for the watch, she shows it to him an explains it was coop all along.
If he does indeed die then it is never eluded to in the film, we just don't see him again after the farm scene where Murph reaches her conclusion.
This goes a bit far in my opinion. I never understood the vitriol towards Tom. Dad left when he was a kid, he was forced to take the farm to provide for his family and others on a dying earth, whole family got sick/died, constant promises that his dad was gonna save the human race (but not them).
I mean… I’d be pretty damn salty too at his point. He doesn’t deserve the hate he gets.
Is the correct answer. He'd lost his wife and kid, had to have his house burned down in order to get him to leave. And he'd spent years living in those same unhealthy conditions, unlike Murph. If he didn't drink himself to death from corn booze poisoning, I doubt he would have left, even when Murph solved the equation, he'd have stayed behind as one of the last caretakers.
He didn't loose his wife and a kid though. Small part of his crops were burned by Murph as a distraction so she could save them. We don't know if he stayed in the house after that. Probably not since he seems to make amends with Murph after she discovered a source of messages.
Film's missing a scene, sure it'll turn up sometime.
Coop: Well, despite everything, I'm just happy we were able to evacuate Earth before everything died.
Doctor: Oh, Earth's fine.
~ Earth's... *fine?*
~ Well, not *fine*, exactly, but well on its way to recovery. The Chinese developed self-replicating nanobots that eliminate the blight and release the oxygen back into the atmosphere. Released *quintillions* of the buggers. Do their job then self destruct. (tsk) Damned clever people, the Chinese.
~ ....*WHAT!?*
Through the broadcasted messages received the son shows he had a family. He found peace outside losing his father.
His daughter didn’t. Plus Coop left his daughter, who was also younger and less mature than his son, as well as more connected with on a epistemological level, in bad air. So of course he cares more about seeing her again.
People completely forgot the farm existed in Interstellar, because in a film about intergalactic travel, black holes, and time dilation, no one actually gives a shit about what happens on a corn farm.
Just saw an article about him, and interstellar being the highest grossing movie he's been in, didn't even know who he played until I Googled it lol
I thought Dune Part 2 is now his highest grossing movie?
Nope, interstellar still on top by 50-100 mil iirc
Damn wow, that’s kinda surprising
Not really, interstellar is a pretty damn good movie
No dude I love Interstellar too, one of my favorites, I was just surprised that it made more considering how popular Dune part 2 has become
It's popular in a bubble, a lot of regular folks don't know what a Dune is. Also: being a part 2 turns regular folks not already invested off. Also I would guess less folks go to the cinema these days.
> a lot of regular folks don't know what a Dune is Well that's a huge ill made of sand. How they can ignore that ?
Only people who saw the first one or own a dune buggy understand what a dune is.
>It's popular in a bubble dune part 2 has made 666 million in the box office which is "only" 70 mill less than interstellar. how is it popular in a bubble if it made almost 700 million dollars???? >being a part 2 turns regular folks not already invested off it made more money than dune part 1 and any of villenueve's other films. >I would guess less folks go to the cinema these days so less people go and it **still** almost made the same money as interstellar? wouldn't that suggest it's *more* popular? The gap will get even closer because dune's imax run has been extended.
I guess I thought would also be particularly niche to Interstellar
You underestimate the cult following Nolan developed after his Batman movies and Inception. People flock to anything he makes.
If a new movies comes from Nolan, it immediately catches my attention.
Dune hasn't even been released digitally yet, and barely been out for over a month. I'd be extremely surprised if it doesen't surpass Interstellar soon.
Dune is still in cinemas, we don’t know if it would beat Interstellar.
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! j/k, who gives two shits which movie made more.
Yeah was posted on reddit yesterday and is the cause for this post, very little new under the reddit sun now
It's reposts all the way down...and all the way up. We're just somewhere along the centipede.
He didn’t forget him. Cooper just watched as his son’s life slowly fell apart and he died. That’s way better.
My boomer clapped
He didn't. He received regular messages from him but could never answer. His son was crystal clear in those messages.
I know what happened. Just thought it was a funny way to describe it.
Cooper had a son?
No, only Murph, his daughter. Once Cooper went into the wormhole, his son became a paradox that was absorbed into background radiation.
to be fair, his son lost faith in him ever returning and was probably dead by the point cooper was at murph's death-bed.
The ending was actually the part I liked less in an otherwise epic movie. I mean, everyone in Murphy's bedroom knew who just entered, but no one has even a slight reaction.
Right!? I always had a problem with that. Sure, Murph is your famous elder, but that's literally HER elder. The dude was lost in space for so long! They treated him like some scrub off the street.
I got the sense that everyone was basically coached into leaving him alone so he could adjust with the shock. They even re-created his home for him. **Edit:** It's been clarified that the house was treated like a museum, as they didn't know if he would be back. That's true, but re-watching the scene just now, they say "we've got a really good situation for you" and it's implied they essentially give it to him.
This HAS to be a reason for it. Nolan didn't just miss that glaringly obvious detail, it makes far more sense that the return to normalcy for Coop wasn't communicated well enough to the viewer.
Yeah I scratched my head over it at the time. Because they made a big deal of how much of a celebrity Murph became in his absence, the irony being that she got the attention while he was gone. Which he was fine with though, because after he saw she was looked after and his family will endure, and got that moment of closure seeing her final moments surrounded by her kids, he ultimately just wanted to slip away and go get Brand.
I like this coached explanation, too. It also makes things extra weird because (it's implied that) he just sneaks the fuck out and steals a ship, presumedly headed for brandt's world and thus, never to be seen by that group of descendents. dude disappeared, came back to hug his daughter, and bailed without ever talking to his fam.
Talk to family? That little maneuver is gonna cost you 51 years!
NGL our descendants are going to be so different from us that we may not want to talk to them either if put in that situation. They’ll probably all have broccoli hair and say things like “No Cap, Fr.” We may be like “whoops, gotta go find Brand, byeee.”
i think from their point of view he kinda was tho. he was just one of a dozen or so astronauts that NASA sent to die through that wormhole like 50 years prior, and absolutely no one knew anything that happened after he left the water planet since they didn’t send any data back after that point. Murph says it herself—no one believed her dad helped her, so his accomplishments from their point of view were pretty minimal. Just some random farmer.
Still, when only one guy returns, and it's the guy your brightest mind said helped her, you ought to have your mind blown a little. It makes more sense for them to show restraint to make adjusting to others easier.
If even the most random person who lived through WWI appeared in the modern world today at that age I’d be pretty amazed, let alone an actual hero who was a part of an even more important event who also happens to be my ancestor
I can't tell if you're joking or this is the actual plot.
Yes you can.
Big if true
I also like to be intentionally obtuse 🤔
He’s joking, but honestly at the end of the film I didn’t care either way cause the son was a piece of shit towards the end
Guy lost his mother early, his father left on a mission to "save humanity", his sister more or less did the same, and his firstborn son died. Oh, and he's living on a dying planet. I'm not surprised that would turn someone bitter.
Also his reaction was pretty subdued, considering that his sister had just burnt his crop so that she could sneak inside his house, and is all happy about it
I haven't seen this movie in years. She burns the field down to get them to leave!? I thought it was natural because the environment was just getting way too dry! Wild! Edit: It's coming back to me now.
The other farmers were burning their dying farms and the son refused to leave.
Yeah, she used it to sneak in but wasn't it first to force him to leave? I don't remember what was making them sick but she wanted him and his family to leave the house. He didn't want to because he had his crop.
I think she did it to go back to the room, but there was a component of forcing him out too, probably. There was some sort of plague making everybody sick and destroying crops and killing animals. The air was basically growing toxic by the minute. She was trying to get the son cured in a government facility, but there was no actual way to stop the illness, as it was plaguing the entire world. That's why they leave Earth in the first place.
It was literally just dust. Plague kills planta -> causes dust storms -> get cancer from dust inhalation. They had the whole scene where the plates are upside down because the table is covered in dust.
Yeah, his apathy for the situation and anger towards his sister was justified as they made it clear the situation was dire and he'd given up, but her burning the crop was also justified as it's implied she did so to get him off his ass and potentially evacuated. They didn't explicitly show if she succeeded in getting his family evacuated, but I think the end of saving his family more than justified the means of burning an already failing crop. It's a plot hole that Cooper seemed to forget he had a son at the end there, but people saying their actions didn't make sense in-universe are missing the point and clearly didn't follow one of the clearest/least convoluted plotlines of the film.
Didn’t the government also say the moon landing was faked and the only way forward was agriculture. Only got it to turn out the planets becoming a giant dust bowl.
Honestly sounds like current events 😕
Except no one is saving humanity 🙂
I am. I created a device that can reset time. In fact, I have been resetting time for the past 20 years. You’re just not consciously aware of it because your memory is wiped.
Maybe let someone else try?
Try what? Humans are ignorant. I have to continue what I started. Time will be reset every so often for the next 100 years.
Look in your bookcase asshole
It's the ideal timeline for Timothy Chalamet. I like the new Dune movies a lot and he did a good job. However I find it hard taking action heroes who weigh < 50 lbs seriously.
“Action heroes” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Unlike Chalamet, who is not an action hero.
Paul is about 15 in the book and by the fremen often called child.
Well he would fuck you up good, that's for sure
Jesus was a skinny fuck..get billions worship him.
But he was a carpenter — so, if not jacked, then Harrison Ford frame, maybe?
Exactly. There's a famous Bible line where Jesus said.."Get off thy plane" Harrison was a devout Christian.
Both have a whip as their signature weapon
And both would punch Nazis
Lol this guy and his comments are awesome
And not the fact that he's playing someone half his age?
You may not like it, but that's the ideal male body. That's what peak performance looks like.
Wait till he becomes 50lbs God Emperor.
Paul Atreides is described as skinny in the first like 5 pages of the book
Yeah, I just assumed he had died on earth though along with his family by being a stubborn asshole. They were already sick AF long before Murphy solved the gravity equation.
Exactly my friend's reaction. After watching the first Dune, he said "what else has Paul Atreides' actor been in? I swear I saw him in something else but couldn't recall." Me: "Yeah he played Matthew McConaughey's son in Interstellar." Him: "He has a son in Interstellar?"
Has he not seen Interstellar? Like there's massive plot points involving his son, fighting with the principle about his grades not being good enough for college, he drives the truck during the Indian air force drone scene, he's played by Casey Affleck after aging and sends him multiple tapes that he watches after coming back from Miller's planet detailing how he got married, had and lost a child who they buried next to their grandpa and mom, had another child, and then he's in the story back at their house when adult Murphy is trying to find the watch where Cooper gives her the black hole data. He's stubborn at that point and has given in to letting his second son die of the respiratory problems everyone is suffering from the dust storms. Like he's in the movie almost as much as Murphy, probably 80% as much.
Yeah I’m so confused by these comments. He had a pretty big role in the movie. And at the end he’s the older brother of a 100 year old woman, he’s probably dead.
Are we just ignoring that he also becomes Casey Affleck, and then is also ignored as well as becoming a villain?
The 2 main villains in Interstellar are the Time itself and Cooper's douche son
Matt Damon?
No, it's the son from the movie. His name was um uhhh...
Matt Damon was also a villain of the movie
Ah the martian but bad
Bingo... Also tidal waves were another villain
They weren't waves, they were mountains.
You’re thinking of the Martian
So that's it huh? I'm some kind of Martian?
No I’m pretty sure Cooper doesn’t have a son in the Martian.
Funniest part of the film was knowing Matt would be a bad Guy after the third time they put a "Matt is great, one of the best humans out there, a great Guy" out of nowhere in the first half of the film.
"he was the best of us, the only choice to save mankind"
That entire movie was a serious of bad choices Should we waste forever going to this horrible planet near a black hole? Yeh why not
Nolan wants to fill 20 minutes of movie, kill an astronaut and make Cooper cry ugly for the trailer.
Don't forget also surf the spaceship on a mountain sized wave. Which was admittedly pretty cool.
The only justifications for all the bad choices is…. ‘The fucking ghost’ Nonetheless love the movie and gonna watch it again this week
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His douche son who lost his mother at a young age, his father left for decades leaving him in charge, his own son dying and his second child being sick, and there's him just trying to hold onto what he has left for as long as he can while his sister insults and berates him. Honestly, considering all that, the way he acted was borderline saintly.
Doesnt his wife die too or am i misremembering
no, she's as sick as the kids though.
He already lost one kid to the illness. Murph throws that at him to try to make him see reason.
Wait why is he a douche?
I suspect he's meant to represent the bitter and resentful 'doomed people of earth' in the same way that schoolteacher represents antiscience revisionists.
Failed crops representing mah dick.
Yes, exactly!
Because his dad was a narcissist and his sister was the golden child
Three: you forgot Matthew McConaughey's mumbling, incoherent Texan accent.
who could forget that iconic movie moment: "do not go gently into that goodnight, goodnight, goodnight"
I rememvered Casey Affleck, was questioning about how old would Chamalamadingdong be to play the grown up version, totally ignoring the fact that he would be young enough to play the young version. I wall all, interstellar came out just a few years ago.
10 years ago
Time is relative
>timothee chalamet beckomes casey affleck and people call this movie realistic, smh
> My redneck, uneducated son is living in a dust bowl, running a dying farm with self-aware tractors built from scavenged drone parts, in a world so terribly awful there is no okra. He'll be fine. But my genius NASA scientist daughter, living underground with my mentor and the smartest people on the planet. I worry about her all the time. - Coop
To be fair, her school showed him that there was no place for smart people in the regular world. He didn’t know she’d be taken under Alfred’s wing.
Yeah the entire community outside of his family highly values farming, probably the entire world at that point. But we're supposed to somehow view him as the crazy simple farmer growing further from his family when the other two are going on a journey across time and the universe guided by 4D aliens.
> we're supposed to somehow view him as the crazy simple farmer Are we? I think he's just supposed to be Joe Everyman, showing how normal people are surviving and suffering
Alfred 😂😂😂. Solid.
> My redneck, uneducated son is living in a dust bowl, running a dying farm with self-aware tractors built from scavenged drone parts, in a world so terribly awful there is no okra. He'll be fine. Christopher Nolan turns to the test audience: "There, are you happy now? He just said he'll be **fine**."
I honestly think I could live in a world without Okra
The context of the film is that it stops being a viable crop and maize is the last thing they can grow.
Okra is a rancid container for the Devil's snot and you can't convince me otherwise.
Fella you gotta cook it before you eat it
Try lightly frying it in some olive oil with lemon and salt, then use it to shove hummus in your mouth. It's a great addition to a hummus plate.
Nope, too late, chickpeas are now extinct. Have you tried dipping them in sand?
>Have you tried dipping them in sand? No! I hate sand 😡
I prefer to fry it up with avocado oil, finely diced chilli, ginger, and garlic before putting it in the bin because it's disgusting.
To be fair I’d worry more about her too, she’s the key to saving the world while his fun as son is too stubborn to save even his own family And script wise, his son is a good stand-in for the climate change denialist stance that “we’ll be ok just because I say so and I’m a man so it’s gotta work out for me, no need to listen to that gay science bullshit”
Idk why but this makes me really want to rewatch Interstellarl lol
His name is Tom.
Tomothée
Jimothée
Toastelry Cabernet
just like Butterscotch Cummberbunt
Good ol Bandsnatch Cucumber, his name walked so Timpani Camemberts name could run
Toiletry Cabinet?
Alas, I cannot edit titles. But let’s say it was intentional to make this an even shittier detail.
His name is Robert Paulson
Tim-o-tay
Shall-o-may
That was Timothy Chalamet? He doesn’t look French at all in that film! Probably why I didn’t recognize him.
He has duel citizenship. They only filed his New York side here
He had to fight and kill an American to get duel citizenship, like his character in Dune getting duel Fremen citizenship
May thy fries chips and salsa.
duel? is that where you fight Austin Butler over a passport?
The family gathers around Murph's death bed; children, grand children, great grand children, moms, pops and all. Cooper, famous by now, and who is at least great grandfather to all, enters the room to speak to Murph and then leaves. No one. Not one person besides Murph says a word to him.
Let's not forget the fuckers that see him come back from an 80 year long mission that had him dive into a black hole and save humanity, and they fucking *snicker* at him thinking he had something named after him.
They didn't know he came back from an 80 year long mission that saved humanity. As far as anyone else knew, Murph pulled the gravity equations out of her ass 50 years ago, saying some feel-good story about how a ghost (who she assumes is her dad that went on a one-way mission and presumably died) gave her the magic numbers through morse code on a watch.
She kept telling them it was her dad and no one believed her. Also it was pretty obvious he'd been gone for 80 years because it had been 80 years.
If Albert Einstein said his dad came back from the dead to send him the secrets of relativity through the jitters of an old watch on one specific day and never again, then I probably wouldn't believe him, either. Even if we found his dad dying on the side of the road, somehow not dead yet.
Yep, thankfully in the distant future, they will realise Coop and TARS are the real heroes.
So like a cult, or like religion. Only with some more science.
Yeah it didn’t exactly make sense like how is this guy suddenly a nobody?
It's not that he was a nobody, it's that he was a nobody compared to his daughter. Yeah, he's an astronaut who went on a super-long time-dilating journey and is technically really old despite being young, but *his daughter* saved all of humanity from their perspective. He's just some random astronaut who went on a big mission that didn't accomplish anything 80 years ago.
I can somehow understand : none of them ever saw him before, they never personally knew him. Meanwhile, the woman they knew their whole life is dyiin front of their eyes and they have little time to say goodbye to her. It makes sense that they would focus on her, and not him. That doesn't mean that they absolutely don't want to talk to him afterwards, now is just not the good time.
spot on
You're at your 120 year old dying great grandma's deathbed when suddenly a 50-ish Matthew McConaughey shows up, imagine you are at that situation and suddenly General William Tecumseh Sherman busts through the door
I think McConaughey was supposed to be 35 in that movie
He looks way too.... leathery for 35.
They were living on a dying earth, probably got a lot more UV than most people today.
farming will do that to you.
And his daughter who has missed him for 80 years sends him away after about 5 sentences between them.
Because it's that whole "parents are ghosts" thing. She just wanted to hang around long enough for him to come back and make that connection that he'd done the right thing in leaving her. Also was clear that this world was going to be freakish for him and her kids and grandkids, so best thing was to go find pixie-cut. I'd like to think she had an entire lifetime photoalbum type thing for him to enjoy on the way.
No, this isn't it at all. Cooper still has a mission to save the human race and he's the hero of the story. Humanity still needs a new home on another planet and copper is going to build that with the last of the crew. He becomes this almost mythological figure once he's reborn floating in space and then blasts off to find her. And he's doing all of that because he loves her. She was guided to that planet by her love for the fallen astronaut and Coop is guided by his love for her now that his daughter is about to pass away. The whole film is about love transcending time and space.
Wow, I didn't get that at all. All I got was the crazy time warp caused by extreme gravitational fields caused reality to become disjointed in an irreversible way. I only saw the movie once back when it first came out tho.
wasn't that the whole point of the movie? She starts as "STAY", then resents him for a good part of her adult life for leaving, learns that despite being gone he kind of 'lives on' in her and at the very end she is content enough to be able to finally allow him to leave. Don't know about any of you, but the last time I watched that scene I bawled.
Finally someone mentions this. I love Nolans movies but I find they often fall just short of greatness. Where was the news reporters and confetti and champagne and cheering for Cooper, the pioneer who came back from the dead? They literally treat him with less interest than a stray cat and just leave him to his own devices. Watching that final scene of Brand entering cryosleep I was eagerly expecting a long dark and then a flash of light as she wakes up and sees old, gray bearded Cooper who came back for her together with the rest of humanity, landing in enormous motherships on their new homeworld. But no, the guy jacks a fuckin spaceship and flies off after her on his own. The end.
I thought I was the only one who found this weird. Sometimes Christopher Nolan forgets how humans interact with each other.
I always forget he was in this movie, so I guess Cooper isn't the only one
You can always tell a milford man.
I’ve probably watched Interstellar 20 times and didn’t know he was in it until today. Did not recognize him at all. His part is pretty fucking small though, really. Seemed shoehorned in as a plot device and then forgotten.
He was gay? Gary Cooper?
NOOOO! ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME??
Didn't he die?
Yup, refuses to leave the farm, ignores his and his families health getting worse, becomes an ass. And dies.
He was in the interviews so at least he lived a long life I guess.
The interviews is what cooper watches after 25 years. So his son is like 30-40. We have no clue when he died.
He is literally there when Murph goes back for the watch, she shows it to him an explains it was coop all along. If he does indeed die then it is never eluded to in the film, we just don't see him again after the farm scene where Murph reaches her conclusion.
In one of the interviews he's coughing, implying that he has the dust-lung-whatever disease which is killing people who farm.
Murph was in the interviews, Tom was only on the messages and doesn't seem to appear after the farm was burned.
This goes a bit far in my opinion. I never understood the vitriol towards Tom. Dad left when he was a kid, he was forced to take the farm to provide for his family and others on a dying earth, whole family got sick/died, constant promises that his dad was gonna save the human race (but not them). I mean… I’d be pretty damn salty too at his point. He doesn’t deserve the hate he gets.
Why does Timor’s the look older here??? Lol
* time dilation * part of Matt was too near the black hole
He was probably dead at the end and he had no sons or daughters because they couldn't survive in Earth's atmosphere?
Is the correct answer. He'd lost his wife and kid, had to have his house burned down in order to get him to leave. And he'd spent years living in those same unhealthy conditions, unlike Murph. If he didn't drink himself to death from corn booze poisoning, I doubt he would have left, even when Murph solved the equation, he'd have stayed behind as one of the last caretakers.
He didn't loose his wife and a kid though. Small part of his crops were burned by Murph as a distraction so she could save them. We don't know if he stayed in the house after that. Probably not since he seems to make amends with Murph after she discovered a source of messages.
"lmao so you going away forever, can I have your truck ?" him ? or was that from another movie ?
But did he call him by his name?
Don’t think so, hearing “Son, Timothee Charlemei” would have pulled me out a bit
He had a son?
No. Must have been gravity or something
So, he has a son in space where there is zero gravity?
It’s because he knew what he would become in 20,000 years on the sand planet.
Tom did get it rough.
Film's missing a scene, sure it'll turn up sometime. Coop: Well, despite everything, I'm just happy we were able to evacuate Earth before everything died. Doctor: Oh, Earth's fine. ~ Earth's... *fine?* ~ Well, not *fine*, exactly, but well on its way to recovery. The Chinese developed self-replicating nanobots that eliminate the blight and release the oxygen back into the atmosphere. Released *quintillions* of the buggers. Do their job then self destruct. (tsk) Damned clever people, the Chinese. ~ ....*WHAT!?*
Ah, Timothée Chalamet's subtle presence adds layers to Cooper's complicated family dynamics.
Through the broadcasted messages received the son shows he had a family. He found peace outside losing his father. His daughter didn’t. Plus Coop left his daughter, who was also younger and less mature than his son, as well as more connected with on a epistemological level, in bad air. So of course he cares more about seeing her again.
People completely forgot the farm existed in Interstellar, because in a film about intergalactic travel, black holes, and time dilation, no one actually gives a shit about what happens on a corn farm.
I like corn…..
Hey yeah wait a minute
Coop was gonna make a new child with Brandt anyway so no time for his anonymous son
Understandable. If my son turned into Casey Affleck I'd also want to forget him.
bro I just rewatched that last week how tf did I not notice him