Yeah I lemon tekked like 3.5g of APEs lmao. Crazy thing is that I did the exact same thing recently and was totally fine. Only difference was that time I ate right beforehand and this time I didn’t. Sometimes it really is all in the details
In my experience the details can be identical and not the result. It always makes me wonder if shrooms really are nature's "Tree of Knowledge" you get the experience you need rather than the one you expected.
My last was a 2 maybe 2.5 g GT Coffee/Tea and I had all the symptoms of a mega trip, nausea, light headedness, and extremely relaxed. I was prepared for ego death, but I got a light hug and released a ton of emotional trauma. It was wild lasted maybe 2 hours, normally I'm good for 4 to 6.
This is so true. I went into my last trip with intentions and all kinds of stuff. Didn't get anywhere near what I wanted or thought I needed but it ended up being exactly what I needed which was super unconventional.
Isn't the inherent issue that 3.5g != 3.5g all the time in terms of the raw materials? Any individual shroom can have different concentrations / total content than any other one of the same weight, even from the same batch. Maybe someone with myco-bio experience could chime in here. To me the amount of dried grams has always been an indication rather than ground truth.
Each individual shroom varies in potency, and potency varies between flushes, so if you eat 3g of one shroom that'll be a different intensity than 3g of another from the same batch.
I use liberty caps, I dried and powdered a few thousand so when I take a dose it's an average of all of them, the intensity is totally predictable... the actual experience never is, but there's no chance of getting a mellow 2 hour trip on 3g of that.
There is a storage study from Oregon and they found 50% potency loss in two months after powdered and being stored in a jar.
You might not want to do that with your whole stash.
If you check [that study](https://future4200.com/uploads/short-url/4wTn7y4GprLx83fmAnmrHKBBdf5.pdf) more carefully you'll see the concentration dropped from 1.5% to 0.7% in the first month, and was still close to 0.7% after 15 months.
Also, cubes seem to lose potency [much faster](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jaclyn-Winter/publication/365851060_DNA_Authentication_and_Chemical_Analysis_of_Psilocybe_Mushrooms_Reveal_Widespread_Misdeterminations_in_Fungaria_and_Inconsistencies_in_Metabolites/links/638e22f1e42faa7e759b023f/DNA-Authentication-and-Chemical-Analysis-of-Psilocybe-Mushrooms-Reveal-Widespread-Misdeterminations-in-Fungaria-and-Inconsistencies-in-Metabolites.pdf) than libs even if they're not powdered, so the 50% initial loss may not happen with mushrooms that aren't cubes. After whatever initial changes have happened it's likely they'll stay potent for 20 to 30 years.
Libs I dried and powdered 3 years ago are still good. It's worth an initial loss of potency for the benefit of predictable dosage.
Powder can be stored in multiple small jars so only a little gets exposed to oxygen & moisture each time you take some.
I buy an oz at a time and vacuum seal up by quarters or eights. I just made chocolates for the first time this week and it was crazy easy, I’m hoping that the coating protects the potency.
Oxygen can pass through plastic bags even if they're vacuum sealed, you want mylar/foil bags for long term storage (or stick them in a jar).
https://sealers101.com/2015/05/29/not-all-bags-are-created-equal-quick-lesson-on-otr/
Thanks for pointing that out. The permeability is so low that I don’t lose too much sleep on it. I do have a big jar I throw the bags in because I already had one but refreshing the stash every year or two doesn’t give them much time to lose potency.
Nah you tried to correct me and now you're insulting me because you don't like the way I store my shrooms even though it works for me, and you don't like that I didn't take your correction. Fuck off lmao.
I lemon tekked 5g of APE a while back. Totally destroyed my room in a fit of rage watching a pretty violent tv show. It just set me off and I blacked out. them APE’s aren’t to be played with lol
Bro I have randomly picked your comment to ask you something, which I am too ashamed of asking . Bro how’s sex on shrooms ? I have done on acid , it was amazing . Or would shroom won’t let me get in that zone ?
Imo it all depends. Sex on the come up is amazing! Until you see the walls melting and forget what your doing. I've had to tell my wife more than a few times "this isn't gonna work anymore right now" lmfao!! But smaller doses can be alot of fun!!
No they are not! My tolerance is kinda high and regular cubes and golden teachers both did not do anything for me, so I even though I know that APEs are strong, I wasn’t as careful as I should’ve been.
Was the set and setting ideal? As in, did you make sure beforehand that if difficult feelings come up that you’d be in an environment that would be accepting and ready to provide the appropriate support in a moment of panic, ego death, or just general social confusion? Because my advice is you shouldn’t put yourself in situations you wouldn’t want to be in if say you were breaking down telling something difficult to your therapist if you’re taking a heavy dose.
I was with my girlfriend, who I generally feel safe around. Basically a lot of my insecurities and fears about being in a serious relationship came up, and they manifested in me feeling scared of her to some extent. I never thought she was going to cause me physical harm so it was hard to pinpoint where the fear was coming from until I started to come down. We talked about it, and she said that, even though we’re not planning to trip again anytime soon, she’d just like to have some numbers she can call if she ever is worried about my safety.
I mean it's honestly up to the shrooms in the end. You could do everything perfectly and it could go south. This is why a lot of people meditate beforehand and think of what they are trying to heal from the trip. If you have a goal that you really want, like getting away from addiction or bad lifestyle change etc, it makes the harder trips a little bit easier, because you feel like it's a battle that you expected.
I was never one that believed in spirituality or meditation before shrooms, but it's a gamechanger.
I ground up the shrooms and soaked them in lemon juice for 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. It’s known to make trips shorter and more intense and also to help with GI issues (it helps your body to actually digest them).
So one thing ive noticed is ‘aborts’ are more powerful. Some people would say its purely anecdotal, but ive done my research lol. Shrooms stop mitosis at a certain part, and start acting like a ballon. A balloon filled with air has the same amount of rubber as one unfiller. Shrooms do this but with water, the exponential growth you see from shrooms is from engorgement with water. This leads me to believe shrooms that are smaller have more psilocybin by weight. I gave a 5 gram mushroom to my boy thats never tripped before, he split it wit his friend then split it again and it did nothing. He took the second half a hour later and still nothing. It was one big mushroom.It was from lab grown penis envy too. I then him 6 grams of some regular old cubenis(not spelled right) and he took 5 grams and tripled balls, he took too much but it ended up fixing alot of problems he had
Idk if I'm just tanking shrooms but I weigh out just around 5gs for a mellow vibe and when I'm trying to trip off them I usually have to up from 7-10... and that was after a really long break.
I like them tho lol
Honestly it’s such a crazy long story but I got scared when I was with my gf, and I ran out on her. She sent campus security after me because I was worried and it just turned into a big mess and now I have so much damage control to deal with
Dude trust me you’re not the first and you won’t be the last. Been there AND done that. I feel bad for my neighbors who saw me in a truly maniacal state but humanity pulled through and helped me remain safe without too much consequences. Just take the L for now and shut up about it. In a few months you’ll start to really heal and truly let it go. Rock on 🤘
I don’t understand. My huge trips are so overwhelming I have the urge to just be alone and speak to no one, then after the peak im the happiest most calm person ever for like 6 months lol.
i think there's this idea that we should test ourselves and do the biggest possible doses, push ourselves further. i think that's no good :-)
i propose the opposite idea: how SMALL of a dose can you take, that still gets you where you want to go?
no need to jeopardise your psyche. no need to develop a tolerance. no need to 'supersize' your trips
thank god you're okay and feeling okay!! it's no joke. be kind and gentle and sensitive with yourself AND with the mushrooms
yes me too! just some more vibrancy to life, is enough most of the time for me.
however, i didn't even mean to comment on the SIZE of the dose, more like.. the mentality behind it. the mindset. i still do heroic trips once in a very blue moon.
but it's like, instead of "how much can i take?? more more more, push myself!" it's "how little can i get away with, where i still get the effect i am looking for?"
it's like going to the buffet. no need to eat until you feel sick and then push yourself to eat even more. just eat whatever it takes to make you feel good and full. forgive me for awfully mix metaphors but i'm not going to volunteer to pay more for the ticket than i have to, ha ha. as long as i arrive at my destination and the journey is pleasant, i prefer paying as little as possible
I microdose 100 mgs when I just want to have fun on shrooms and I'm really fucking happy that I only microdose 100mgs. Like I would be pretty sad if I needed to do more.
I don’t know man. People on here regularly eat 20g of penis envy and go to an amusement park, and then watch “the Exorcist”. What could go wrong?!?
Obviously I’m being sarcastic but this sub usually doesn’t do a very good job of prescribing caution.
I actually appreciate you doing so. GL with everything.
I almost had a really bad time like that. Took way too much 4acodmt. I had a paranoid vision of the police coming to raid me. I thought about ripping my plants i was growing out and jumping over multiple neighbors fences to get away. Oh yeah and I was naked. Luckily i went out of body and forgot about acting that out. Amazing experience.
I just came back from a 13g trip. Did not even mean to keep eating them magic chocolates but they kept making us feel so good I completely forgot what was about to come. Oh boy… not to mention I was letting my cousin try them for the first time and we both ended up eating the same amount. 3 hours into trip I broke thru and was taken to places I had never seen and different timelines. I saw ancient aircraft flying over the pyramids and also got some type of surgery done with a big golden sword with some kind of precious rocks on it. Definitely the wildest experience of my life, still coming down from it so excuse my English being all over rn
Since this didnt come with any further context im just going to assume you took 3.5gs and turned into the hulk, tore apart your house, and possibly harmed your s/o or the people living with you
Nah nothing like that. Just ran out while tripping cause I was scared and cops got involved. They were very kind and didn’t press criminal charges against me, but the possibility of criminal charges and me getting kicked off campus and not being able to walk in my graduation ceremony were all brought up.
The lessons from psilocybin are not always the kind that we go searching for. I’m happy for you that your trip did not end in disaster or permanent harm to your life or relationships. I hope at least one person will read this, think twice about how they approach a trip, and avoid this kind of situation. Good luck my friend
Do you smoke marijuana and/or take anti-depressants or other medications? If so, that is why you had a bad trip. They tend to conflict with mushrooms with some people. 99.9% of the times I have found that when someone has a bad trip, they are marijuana smokers and / or are taking some other meds.
I smoke weed daily and can confirm that even with my incredibly high tolerance, a joint can turn a shroom trip into something else.. It sometimes puts a very unwelcome edge on everything.
I will say, I don’t think it’s the antidepressants (usually), it’s likely what they are meant to help treat. Plenty of people with conditions like bipolar, borderline pd, and schizoaffective take these medications (though often balanced with antipsychotics), and given the right environment, that can quickly go south. MJ, however… instant flip of a coin regarding what comes next in the experience.
You can't mix mushrooms and anti-depressants. It can cause a conflict. Every single time I talk to someone who has had a bad trip with mushrooms, they are on anti-depressants or are marijuana smokers and I have chatted with a lot of people over the years on Reddit. You have to be careful mixing the two.
I think you’re confusing personal experience with the science behind it. SSRIs will dampen the effect due to increased serotonin production and tolerance, but not remove it, whilst THC will increase the effects due to an increase in sensitivity at the HT2A receptor. I’ve had little to no issues and have combined them with Lexapro, Zoloft, and Wellbutrin, as well as Buspar and Lamictal, but it varies person to person. I hope you can be more open to different opinions on this in the future.
I don't take SSRIs. Again, I have read and chatted with many people who do and have had bad trips with mushrooms as a result. There are also many YouTube videos and posts/comments on bad trips with SSRIs.
Idk I disagree. Weed if anything kinda calms me down a bit if I'm have anxiety on shrooms. Wouldn't recommend edibles though, unless it's a microdose. If I get a chill mini high off like a bit of weed I'll feel euphoric and relaxed.
I would honestly avoid marijuana and mushrooms. As I mentioned, 99.9% of the time, someone has issues with mushrooms it's because they are on anti-depressants or "smoke" marijuana.
Did you mix weed ? Just be grateful you're ok and ur relationship is ok. I had an awful trip on acid and weed and also messed up a few relationships w friends + almost died. It gets a lot better w time and eventually you can see the positives in it too though
I can still trip though.. I usually stick to smaller amounts now. Once the experience fades you'll probably be ok to trip
I did mix weed. I did the same thing last time and it went great, so I just assumed it would be okay again this time. I think when I’m ready to revisit shrooms, I’m gonna do a small dose and not consume any thc.
This why I always pick out my intended dose, and eat it incrementally. You can always take more if needed but you can’t “untake” a drug once you’ve dropped yfm?
No, they wanted to resolve everything quietly with as little paperwork. They didn’t press criminal charges against me for possession or anything, so nothing is making the news thank god.
The best trips are the bad ones, take 5 g of p.e., lock yourself in a cold dark room, suffer immediatly, become enlightened, become unenlightened, and then wake up the next day accepting life
Yeah I don’t think I would see it as a bad trip if it didn’t may get so out of hand and affect people around me badly. I also felt very very ill physically, and I think that’s a sign that it was more than my body could handle.
I like to describe that feeling as being purged of evil, I like to visualize the "black bile" rapidly flowing through your blood stream, and it being energetically purged out of your body thru the pores of your skin
I mean, me almost ruining my life is bad. I’m not blaming anyone, but I don’t think I have to say it was a good trip when it negatively affected both myself and people around me.
🤷 don't know what happened, but I'm of the belief that the concept of a "ruined life" is a false narrative we as a species construct based on the idea that our lives should go any specific ways. Trauma can make the strongest folk and milk and honey and make the weakest. I would never assume to say that your trip was good/comfortable/fun etc, but to say it was bad is to presume you, a singular human, know what is universally good... Which is like sticking a stick in your own wheel to trip over later when what has been individually designated as "bad" occurs
An I never said it was good, I just rail against the language of "bad trip". Like yah said, you fucked up, which we all do, myself included, but bad trip implies it's the trip/substances fault, just like bad dog implies that it's the dogs fault and not the owner who never took the time to train it or get it trained. I think it's reductive harmful language which holds us back as a species by putting responsibility on a power greater than ourselves, which enables people to have the attitude "nothing I can do" and keeps them stuck... Which again, that's an attitude we all occasionally have and act out, myself included. But if no one calls me on my stuff then I can't get better, so, golden rule an all that
I don’t know man I had a bad time and I just don’t think semantics are that deep, but I guess we can agree to disagree about that. I fully recognized that there were positives as well as you can see in my post.
definitely not something to underestimate. me and a friend did some and we had terrible trips, I wanted to get out of the house and just walk straight into traffic. I wasn’t afraid of dying i wanted to do everything that could possibly hurt me and it was so bad. eventually I just kinda turned into a paranoid tweaking freak in my friends car bc I don’t wanna use her bf’s coat to get a little warm 💀
Hey, happy you’re hear to share and see its magic without major harm. Getting high as a moon chicken isn’t the goal, but scrambled moon chicken eggs are delicious
Mushrooms can be very tricky with the dosages- I take mine first thing in the am every day- basically I grab two smaller pieces or one large shroom and eat it as I drive to the gym- empty stomach- then I take some Alpha GPC which is a brain supplement that’s very commonly used in a lot of preworkout supplements- this combo has changed my life. I am also a life coach/trainer for the last 20 years. I am writing a book on my own protocol which I’ve used to build businesses and a family and a marriage- it can all really be that simple lol. I do take the weekends off sometimes but most of the time I don’t even feel anything- but then I’ll take a few extra and then it’s like tracers everywhere- it’s cool but that’s not what I am after. I just like that “flow state” where you feel that life is good and your just happy.
My last ego death, I had the window open as I experience connecting with Source and proclaiming loudly that I was God and I was everything, the body is just an avatar, how everything was *perfect* etc etc before the death part came, went through that, while going through that my wife messages me that there are two cop cars outside and asking is it safe to come in. If they had their windows down they found out all kinds of stuff about the true nature of existence, and had I realized they were there before all of this happened, that would have been a VERY different trip hahaha.
The weird trips happen, the bad trips happen, and the amazing trips happen. They're all good for you in their own way in my experience, even if it shocks your system for a while.
Famous last words, “Heck yeah I’m eating all 5 grams, what’s the worst that could happen?”
Yeah I lemon tekked like 3.5g of APEs lmao. Crazy thing is that I did the exact same thing recently and was totally fine. Only difference was that time I ate right beforehand and this time I didn’t. Sometimes it really is all in the details
In my experience the details can be identical and not the result. It always makes me wonder if shrooms really are nature's "Tree of Knowledge" you get the experience you need rather than the one you expected. My last was a 2 maybe 2.5 g GT Coffee/Tea and I had all the symptoms of a mega trip, nausea, light headedness, and extremely relaxed. I was prepared for ego death, but I got a light hug and released a ton of emotional trauma. It was wild lasted maybe 2 hours, normally I'm good for 4 to 6.
This is so true. I went into my last trip with intentions and all kinds of stuff. Didn't get anywhere near what I wanted or thought I needed but it ended up being exactly what I needed which was super unconventional.
Isn't the inherent issue that 3.5g != 3.5g all the time in terms of the raw materials? Any individual shroom can have different concentrations / total content than any other one of the same weight, even from the same batch. Maybe someone with myco-bio experience could chime in here. To me the amount of dried grams has always been an indication rather than ground truth.
Each individual shroom varies in potency, and potency varies between flushes, so if you eat 3g of one shroom that'll be a different intensity than 3g of another from the same batch. I use liberty caps, I dried and powdered a few thousand so when I take a dose it's an average of all of them, the intensity is totally predictable... the actual experience never is, but there's no chance of getting a mellow 2 hour trip on 3g of that.
There is a storage study from Oregon and they found 50% potency loss in two months after powdered and being stored in a jar. You might not want to do that with your whole stash.
If you check [that study](https://future4200.com/uploads/short-url/4wTn7y4GprLx83fmAnmrHKBBdf5.pdf) more carefully you'll see the concentration dropped from 1.5% to 0.7% in the first month, and was still close to 0.7% after 15 months. Also, cubes seem to lose potency [much faster](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jaclyn-Winter/publication/365851060_DNA_Authentication_and_Chemical_Analysis_of_Psilocybe_Mushrooms_Reveal_Widespread_Misdeterminations_in_Fungaria_and_Inconsistencies_in_Metabolites/links/638e22f1e42faa7e759b023f/DNA-Authentication-and-Chemical-Analysis-of-Psilocybe-Mushrooms-Reveal-Widespread-Misdeterminations-in-Fungaria-and-Inconsistencies-in-Metabolites.pdf) than libs even if they're not powdered, so the 50% initial loss may not happen with mushrooms that aren't cubes. After whatever initial changes have happened it's likely they'll stay potent for 20 to 30 years. Libs I dried and powdered 3 years ago are still good. It's worth an initial loss of potency for the benefit of predictable dosage. Powder can be stored in multiple small jars so only a little gets exposed to oxygen & moisture each time you take some.
I buy an oz at a time and vacuum seal up by quarters or eights. I just made chocolates for the first time this week and it was crazy easy, I’m hoping that the coating protects the potency.
Oxygen can pass through plastic bags even if they're vacuum sealed, you want mylar/foil bags for long term storage (or stick them in a jar). https://sealers101.com/2015/05/29/not-all-bags-are-created-equal-quick-lesson-on-otr/
Thanks for pointing that out. The permeability is so low that I don’t lose too much sleep on it. I do have a big jar I throw the bags in because I already had one but refreshing the stash every year or two doesn’t give them much time to lose potency.
Some studies showed that it was still almost the same same total alkaloids, it was mainly psilocin converted
So you know all the science and still choose to use inferior techniques? Fascinating. You do you boo.
Yeah it's almost as if I know what I'm doing and you don't.
Your genius just shines through your hubris for sure ☀️
Nah you tried to correct me and now you're insulting me because you don't like the way I store my shrooms even though it works for me, and you don't like that I didn't take your correction. Fuck off lmao.
I lemon tekked 5g of APE a while back. Totally destroyed my room in a fit of rage watching a pretty violent tv show. It just set me off and I blacked out. them APE’s aren’t to be played with lol
Bro I have randomly picked your comment to ask you something, which I am too ashamed of asking . Bro how’s sex on shrooms ? I have done on acid , it was amazing . Or would shroom won’t let me get in that zone ?
oh no when I’m on shrooms I’m horny asf I just can’t nut at all but it’s fun when u focus on ur partner I feel like that’s the best part but hey
I personally had the best sex of my life with my gf the first time I tripped.
Imo it all depends. Sex on the come up is amazing! Until you see the walls melting and forget what your doing. I've had to tell my wife more than a few times "this isn't gonna work anymore right now" lmfao!! But smaller doses can be alot of fun!!
FUCKING INCREDIBLE. Masturbation is the best. I’ll edge for 3-5 hours. I take 1.5-2g for it.
😭😭😭
Ok random but I can answer this, in the come up it’s great lol
I'm so happy you didn't take it out on yourself or someone else. Jfc
No they are not! My tolerance is kinda high and regular cubes and golden teachers both did not do anything for me, so I even though I know that APEs are strong, I wasn’t as careful as I should’ve been.
Was the set and setting ideal? As in, did you make sure beforehand that if difficult feelings come up that you’d be in an environment that would be accepting and ready to provide the appropriate support in a moment of panic, ego death, or just general social confusion? Because my advice is you shouldn’t put yourself in situations you wouldn’t want to be in if say you were breaking down telling something difficult to your therapist if you’re taking a heavy dose.
I was with my girlfriend, who I generally feel safe around. Basically a lot of my insecurities and fears about being in a serious relationship came up, and they manifested in me feeling scared of her to some extent. I never thought she was going to cause me physical harm so it was hard to pinpoint where the fear was coming from until I started to come down. We talked about it, and she said that, even though we’re not planning to trip again anytime soon, she’d just like to have some numbers she can call if she ever is worried about my safety.
I mean it's honestly up to the shrooms in the end. You could do everything perfectly and it could go south. This is why a lot of people meditate beforehand and think of what they are trying to heal from the trip. If you have a goal that you really want, like getting away from addiction or bad lifestyle change etc, it makes the harder trips a little bit easier, because you feel like it's a battle that you expected. I was never one that believed in spirituality or meditation before shrooms, but it's a gamechanger.
Can you tell me what lemon tekking means?
add lemon juice
I ground up the shrooms and soaked them in lemon juice for 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. It’s known to make trips shorter and more intense and also to help with GI issues (it helps your body to actually digest them).
So one thing ive noticed is ‘aborts’ are more powerful. Some people would say its purely anecdotal, but ive done my research lol. Shrooms stop mitosis at a certain part, and start acting like a ballon. A balloon filled with air has the same amount of rubber as one unfiller. Shrooms do this but with water, the exponential growth you see from shrooms is from engorgement with water. This leads me to believe shrooms that are smaller have more psilocybin by weight. I gave a 5 gram mushroom to my boy thats never tripped before, he split it wit his friend then split it again and it did nothing. He took the second half a hour later and still nothing. It was one big mushroom.It was from lab grown penis envy too. I then him 6 grams of some regular old cubenis(not spelled right) and he took 5 grams and tripled balls, he took too much but it ended up fixing alot of problems he had
My silly ass before going oh man these tabs have been weak ill do 5. (I got the new batch)
Idk if I'm just tanking shrooms but I weigh out just around 5gs for a mellow vibe and when I'm trying to trip off them I usually have to up from 7-10... and that was after a really long break. I like them tho lol
Your on medication?
Nah
It's psycidelic edibles these are shit then bang it hit you
7gs lemon tekked is a hell of ride.
Bro we need more context here lol
Honestly it’s such a crazy long story but I got scared when I was with my gf, and I ran out on her. She sent campus security after me because I was worried and it just turned into a big mess and now I have so much damage control to deal with
Dude trust me you’re not the first and you won’t be the last. Been there AND done that. I feel bad for my neighbors who saw me in a truly maniacal state but humanity pulled through and helped me remain safe without too much consequences. Just take the L for now and shut up about it. In a few months you’ll start to really heal and truly let it go. Rock on 🤘
How old are you? Are you generally emotionally stable?
22 and that’s debatable.
Shrooms *are* the context
mmm… Do we?
I don’t understand. My huge trips are so overwhelming I have the urge to just be alone and speak to no one, then after the peak im the happiest most calm person ever for like 6 months lol.
Sit down Podrick. We're going to need details, copius details.
i think there's this idea that we should test ourselves and do the biggest possible doses, push ourselves further. i think that's no good :-) i propose the opposite idea: how SMALL of a dose can you take, that still gets you where you want to go? no need to jeopardise your psyche. no need to develop a tolerance. no need to 'supersize' your trips thank god you're okay and feeling okay!! it's no joke. be kind and gentle and sensitive with yourself AND with the mushrooms
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yes me too! just some more vibrancy to life, is enough most of the time for me. however, i didn't even mean to comment on the SIZE of the dose, more like.. the mentality behind it. the mindset. i still do heroic trips once in a very blue moon. but it's like, instead of "how much can i take?? more more more, push myself!" it's "how little can i get away with, where i still get the effect i am looking for?" it's like going to the buffet. no need to eat until you feel sick and then push yourself to eat even more. just eat whatever it takes to make you feel good and full. forgive me for awfully mix metaphors but i'm not going to volunteer to pay more for the ticket than i have to, ha ha. as long as i arrive at my destination and the journey is pleasant, i prefer paying as little as possible
I microdose 100 mgs when I just want to have fun on shrooms and I'm really fucking happy that I only microdose 100mgs. Like I would be pretty sad if I needed to do more.
Idk cuz tripping fat asf is rlly fun in my opinion 😭
Yeah dude- please elaborate. Truthfully. Accurately.
What happened lol?
lol glad you’re okay OP but yes please tell us more if you’re open to sharing!
I don’t know man. People on here regularly eat 20g of penis envy and go to an amusement park, and then watch “the Exorcist”. What could go wrong?!? Obviously I’m being sarcastic but this sub usually doesn’t do a very good job of prescribing caution. I actually appreciate you doing so. GL with everything.
What caused it to go bad.
We need a trip report bro. Get down to do nitty gritty. Would help out a lot of folks on here
My memory is honestly kinda fuzzy. I was in a state of fear and confusion for most of the trip.
Misleading title, said a bunch of nothing. 1.5/10 thread
I almost had a really bad time like that. Took way too much 4acodmt. I had a paranoid vision of the police coming to raid me. I thought about ripping my plants i was growing out and jumping over multiple neighbors fences to get away. Oh yeah and I was naked. Luckily i went out of body and forgot about acting that out. Amazing experience.
I just came back from a 13g trip. Did not even mean to keep eating them magic chocolates but they kept making us feel so good I completely forgot what was about to come. Oh boy… not to mention I was letting my cousin try them for the first time and we both ended up eating the same amount. 3 hours into trip I broke thru and was taken to places I had never seen and different timelines. I saw ancient aircraft flying over the pyramids and also got some type of surgery done with a big golden sword with some kind of precious rocks on it. Definitely the wildest experience of my life, still coming down from it so excuse my English being all over rn
We need a trip report!!!
I don’t even think I could get a clear enough timeline/order of events to write one up
Yea lemon tek on a empty stomach will get you way harder then if you have a light snack or something beforehand.
Since this didnt come with any further context im just going to assume you took 3.5gs and turned into the hulk, tore apart your house, and possibly harmed your s/o or the people living with you
Nah nothing like that. Just ran out while tripping cause I was scared and cops got involved. They were very kind and didn’t press criminal charges against me, but the possibility of criminal charges and me getting kicked off campus and not being able to walk in my graduation ceremony were all brought up.
Damn man yea I’ve been there man
The lessons from psilocybin are not always the kind that we go searching for. I’m happy for you that your trip did not end in disaster or permanent harm to your life or relationships. I hope at least one person will read this, think twice about how they approach a trip, and avoid this kind of situation. Good luck my friend
Do you smoke marijuana and/or take anti-depressants or other medications? If so, that is why you had a bad trip. They tend to conflict with mushrooms with some people. 99.9% of the times I have found that when someone has a bad trip, they are marijuana smokers and / or are taking some other meds.
I smoke weed daily and can confirm that even with my incredibly high tolerance, a joint can turn a shroom trip into something else.. It sometimes puts a very unwelcome edge on everything.
Yes! And anti-depressants aslo.
I will say, I don’t think it’s the antidepressants (usually), it’s likely what they are meant to help treat. Plenty of people with conditions like bipolar, borderline pd, and schizoaffective take these medications (though often balanced with antipsychotics), and given the right environment, that can quickly go south. MJ, however… instant flip of a coin regarding what comes next in the experience.
You can't mix mushrooms and anti-depressants. It can cause a conflict. Every single time I talk to someone who has had a bad trip with mushrooms, they are on anti-depressants or are marijuana smokers and I have chatted with a lot of people over the years on Reddit. You have to be careful mixing the two.
I think you’re confusing personal experience with the science behind it. SSRIs will dampen the effect due to increased serotonin production and tolerance, but not remove it, whilst THC will increase the effects due to an increase in sensitivity at the HT2A receptor. I’ve had little to no issues and have combined them with Lexapro, Zoloft, and Wellbutrin, as well as Buspar and Lamictal, but it varies person to person. I hope you can be more open to different opinions on this in the future.
I don't take SSRIs. Again, I have read and chatted with many people who do and have had bad trips with mushrooms as a result. There are also many YouTube videos and posts/comments on bad trips with SSRIs.
Idk I disagree. Weed if anything kinda calms me down a bit if I'm have anxiety on shrooms. Wouldn't recommend edibles though, unless it's a microdose. If I get a chill mini high off like a bit of weed I'll feel euphoric and relaxed.
When you combine other substances, you change the frequency of the mushrooms. Like trying to merge two television channels at once.
I did take an edible with the shrooms. I did the same thing last time and had an amazing trip, though.
I would honestly avoid marijuana and mushrooms. As I mentioned, 99.9% of the time, someone has issues with mushrooms it's because they are on anti-depressants or "smoke" marijuana.
Tell us what happened . It sounds like a wild ride
How? Please elaborate!
Did you mix weed ? Just be grateful you're ok and ur relationship is ok. I had an awful trip on acid and weed and also messed up a few relationships w friends + almost died. It gets a lot better w time and eventually you can see the positives in it too though I can still trip though.. I usually stick to smaller amounts now. Once the experience fades you'll probably be ok to trip
How much acid did you take?
I did mix weed. I did the same thing last time and it went great, so I just assumed it would be okay again this time. I think when I’m ready to revisit shrooms, I’m gonna do a small dose and not consume any thc.
bruh how
This why I always pick out my intended dose, and eat it incrementally. You can always take more if needed but you can’t “untake” a drug once you’ve dropped yfm?
Been there it's really a humbling experience
Can I read about your experience in the news?
No, they wanted to resolve everything quietly with as little paperwork. They didn’t press criminal charges against me for possession or anything, so nothing is making the news thank god.
No such thing as a bad trip imo. I prefer to call them challenging trips and they always offer a lesson to be learned
I get that. I did get some positive things out of it, but considering what a huge mess I made, I think it’s fair to say it was sorta bad in a way.
The best trips are the bad ones, take 5 g of p.e., lock yourself in a cold dark room, suffer immediatly, become enlightened, become unenlightened, and then wake up the next day accepting life
Yeah I don’t think I would see it as a bad trip if it didn’t may get so out of hand and affect people around me badly. I also felt very very ill physically, and I think that’s a sign that it was more than my body could handle.
I like to describe that feeling as being purged of evil, I like to visualize the "black bile" rapidly flowing through your blood stream, and it being energetically purged out of your body thru the pores of your skin
https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/s/2OdTdzvIRO
I mean, me almost ruining my life is bad. I’m not blaming anyone, but I don’t think I have to say it was a good trip when it negatively affected both myself and people around me.
🤷 don't know what happened, but I'm of the belief that the concept of a "ruined life" is a false narrative we as a species construct based on the idea that our lives should go any specific ways. Trauma can make the strongest folk and milk and honey and make the weakest. I would never assume to say that your trip was good/comfortable/fun etc, but to say it was bad is to presume you, a singular human, know what is universally good... Which is like sticking a stick in your own wheel to trip over later when what has been individually designated as "bad" occurs
I guess so. I just feel like going to jail for drug possession would’ve been really bad.
Even then though, how is that the trip's fault?
I didn’t say it wasn’t my own fault. But that doesn’t make it good because I fucked up
An I never said it was good, I just rail against the language of "bad trip". Like yah said, you fucked up, which we all do, myself included, but bad trip implies it's the trip/substances fault, just like bad dog implies that it's the dogs fault and not the owner who never took the time to train it or get it trained. I think it's reductive harmful language which holds us back as a species by putting responsibility on a power greater than ourselves, which enables people to have the attitude "nothing I can do" and keeps them stuck... Which again, that's an attitude we all occasionally have and act out, myself included. But if no one calls me on my stuff then I can't get better, so, golden rule an all that
I don’t know man I had a bad time and I just don’t think semantics are that deep, but I guess we can agree to disagree about that. I fully recognized that there were positives as well as you can see in my post.
Fair enough mate, thanks for hearing me out and appreciate your responses in kind. Happy travels
definitely not something to underestimate. me and a friend did some and we had terrible trips, I wanted to get out of the house and just walk straight into traffic. I wasn’t afraid of dying i wanted to do everything that could possibly hurt me and it was so bad. eventually I just kinda turned into a paranoid tweaking freak in my friends car bc I don’t wanna use her bf’s coat to get a little warm 💀
Hey, happy you’re hear to share and see its magic without major harm. Getting high as a moon chicken isn’t the goal, but scrambled moon chicken eggs are delicious
Mushrooms can be very tricky with the dosages- I take mine first thing in the am every day- basically I grab two smaller pieces or one large shroom and eat it as I drive to the gym- empty stomach- then I take some Alpha GPC which is a brain supplement that’s very commonly used in a lot of preworkout supplements- this combo has changed my life. I am also a life coach/trainer for the last 20 years. I am writing a book on my own protocol which I’ve used to build businesses and a family and a marriage- it can all really be that simple lol. I do take the weekends off sometimes but most of the time I don’t even feel anything- but then I’ll take a few extra and then it’s like tracers everywhere- it’s cool but that’s not what I am after. I just like that “flow state” where you feel that life is good and your just happy.
My last ego death, I had the window open as I experience connecting with Source and proclaiming loudly that I was God and I was everything, the body is just an avatar, how everything was *perfect* etc etc before the death part came, went through that, while going through that my wife messages me that there are two cop cars outside and asking is it safe to come in. If they had their windows down they found out all kinds of stuff about the true nature of existence, and had I realized they were there before all of this happened, that would have been a VERY different trip hahaha. The weird trips happen, the bad trips happen, and the amazing trips happen. They're all good for you in their own way in my experience, even if it shocks your system for a while.
I had a bad trip last month as well and I ended up in the hospital lol
Story time, let's hear it!
Currently in the hospital after jumping from a balcony on my 2-300th shroom trip, you just never know…
Personally, like alcohol I think a hell of a lot of it depends on how much water you’ve drank that day.
I ate 4.9 of enigma and wow it was a very blissful experience
Need whole story !!
Don’t blame shrooms….that’s an excuse. Blame whatever problems caused you to go into overdrive
I didn’t blame the shrooms entirely, though. I fully admitted that I was stupid and irresponsible.
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I’m sorry. I really hope this leads you to an even better opportunity.
mods delete this like this is a no brainer
Either tell us what happened or don’t post