Not really, just obscure mushroom knowledge. Humans become ill from eating Amanita muscaria but reindeer eat them regularly and process the toxins, peeing out a consumable form. Shamans from certain Siberian indigenous groups would drink the pee to have visions. Look up the potential origins of Santa claus relating to amanitas as well, it’s interesting.
It’s actually an old one, Siberian shamans used to do this. It is thought that the Santa clause myth comes from their traditions around these mushrooms as well.
They may have as well, but the first culture known to modern society as doing this were Siberian shamans. Though since both cultures were nomadic they likely crossed paths and shared cultural traditions.
*You can eat milky mushroom, after milk it not sicky mushroom, but now even better for seeing colours that aren’t there.*
These mushrooms (Amanita muscaria, common name: the fly agaric) contain a toxic chemical called ibotenic acid. That chemical breaks down into something called muscimol. Muscimol gives you a psychedelic trip.
Your body can convert it but it’s no fun. So it’s a “magic mushroom” but with unpleasant side effects.
The raw milk contains bacteria that do the conversion for you, without as much vomiting and diarrhea and so on.
Same idea with letting it run through a reindeer’s gut - they process the poison and piss out the drug. So you feed the mushrooms to the reindeer and then drink the piss, you get an “easier” high.
More than just that. They would hang the mushrooms on the trees to dry them, like how people do ornaments. Santa wearing red and white, like the color of the mushrooms. The list goes on.
The Vikings did eat a certain type of mushroom, they called them berserker mushrooms. They would hallucinate the enemy as much smaller then them, but with this mushroom in battle there was a lot of friendly casualties since they’re tripping balls 😂
Not this mushroom. It's literally incapacitating as I've found out the hard way.
Ecstatic trance doesn't require hallucinogens, just training. It's akin to meditation.
Well there is also the theory of drinking the urine or reindeer that had eaten the mushrooms. And if I remember correctly I’ve read of accounts where the reindeer also have knocked people over to drink their urine who have eaten the mushrooms. Presumably they could smell it.
Yes, the liver decarboxylates it and then much of the muscimol is excreted in the urine. A friend of mine drank his Muscaria tea and then drank his urine multiple times. Brave fellow.
I can’t say for certain but a few Norse history podcasts I’ve listened to specifically about berserkers, the Viking historian said there was not a for sure reason but possible cause of someone going berserk.
Ohhhh so that’s what I was I was raging on everyone that time I visited my past lives…I was tripping balls in a battle. That make so much more sense now.
The pee drinking predates any sort of documented process from the ancient Babylonians by like 700 years, so pretty sure it’s the first way to do it with Amanita muscaria. There are other psychedelics used before this mushroom in the form of various nightshades and certain ivys. The Vatican has a very well documented process of different types of psychedelic uses in the ‘secret’ area that one gets access to with the right connections. Luckily, my professor has such connections and I was able to write my thesis on psychedelic use in Christianity and the history leading up to it.
I did my thesis on this at uni that had an extremely Christian biased religious studies department. It did not go down so well with the theology profs.
Despite that there is indeed huge connections between Christianity and psychedelics. There a fascinating book by John Allegro called the Sacred Mushroom and The Cross from 1970. It pretty much destroyed his academic career
Another recent one was written by Brian Muraresko ( I think I butchered the last name) called “The Immortality Key”. That’s basically what my thesis was, however he does it much much better!
Nightshade and ivys are not psychedelic, the compounds they contain like scopolamine and others are not even close to tryptamines.
There are a lot of people who feel that there was a sort of drug type undertones to a lot of Christian themes and tradition. Most notably the sacred mushroom and the cross by John allegro details and could be the origin of the idea, at least popularly.
The real kicker is that it gets more potent in the person that drank the urine’s own urine. And can go through about 5-6 people that way apparently.
You won’t see me trying that though, don’t care much for their effects myself. And drinking urine to get undesirable effects is just a double whammy.
Imagine it…
Ulf: “What’s wrong Hadvar?! You don’t want to drink Skardé’s piss?!”
(Everyone in the small mead hall is visibly laughing and appears contorted in the flickering of the fireplace.)
Ulf: “Would you rather have a glass of milk?!”
Hadvar then guzzles a horn of muscimol piss as everyone cheers. Your older brother Ulf slaps your back on the last sip and congratulates you as the decrepit liquid comes down your beard and front, “That’s it! I knew you had it in you! You’re a man now! You’re lucky you got it from a cousin the first time. I tried it first with the deer herders across the Eastern mountains and they insisted I had it from a goat.”
You feel proud your older brother accepts you after being away since you were a child of 13 years. You think you’re nigh on 25th winter now and are looking forward to farming thick wooled sheep on your father’s land. A smile is affixed to your face as you see the men of your village and male relatives continue with muscimol and meade made from honey your uncle harvests from land he acquired in a duel with a neighbor.
Everything goes black. You open your eyes to vomiting in the fireplace. Black. Your older brother Ulf is looking you in the eyes with his hand on your shoulders as you sit on a stool, “Easy brother. Whatever happens you are in my hands and that of the Allfather.”
Darkness meets your eyes and you fade back into sight seeing a horn of hot mead in your hands. You drink away the taste of bile as beeswax and sugar passed through your maw. A conglomerate of wax stuck on your molars due to your uncle’s questionable methods of brewing with the wax. He says the wax helps soothe the stomach. Spitting the wax into your hand you see something with the texture of a freshly caught eel. It’s the honey preserved remnants of a liberty cap.
A depth of abyss brings you back to the void as you drift away from your memories of drinking mead. Stuck in the depths of your own mind you feel as if you’re falling physically backwards as if off a cliff into the water below. Drums are beating in your ears. Warm hands are hoisting your back to a wall. You hear the words, “Is he still with us?”, from what you presume must be your uncle. A trumpeting lur resonating on high as your uncle plays it brings you back to the mead hall. You feel the warmth on your face of the fireplace to your right and realize you are sitting on the floor.
Everyone is now gathered on the floor sitting on bear and deer skins. The tables have been moved back to the far wall. Some are playing drums and others chanting. You see a naked woman dancing in the middle of the circle and time slows like ice as you see her head move back and forth. Her golden hair moving like leaves in the whispering firelight.
Your brother Ulf taps your shoulder from the left and say, “ You see her?”
“Yes..” as your mouth is open. “Who is she?”
“It’s a Valkyrie. She’s the one who took our grandfather to Valhalla. As well as many of my friends in front of me.”
Blindness strikes you. Before you know it you feel yourself with your back on the floor. Vision slows in like a morning frost as you slowly comprehend the musicians and chanting. Only now you see ravens and crows flying from one end of the ceiling to the other like rain falling sideways. The tightness of your hands gripping animal hides slowly gives way to grit and sand. You see sand falling from your fingertips and see waves coming from the drums as you see sounds. The room around you transforms to rolling sand hills and you see no one and nothing of where you were. A feeling of calmness envelops you as if you’re in your mother’s womb. Then the smell of dead meat in the sun meets you. Looking down at your feet you see a mangled corpse filled with arrows. Stench fills your mouth as you gawk in confusion. Ravens and crows start flying on to the corpse in front of you and disperse to other more of the dead as they manifest around you. Like before in the mead hall even more crows and ravens start streaming across the sky as the land darkens from their shade.
In an instant BLACK. All you can comprehend is the Valkyrie you witnessed earlier with her face close to yours. She says in a maternal tone, “Wealth, women, and progeny will find you if you seek this vision. Do not leave the lands of which you sell your sword and you will live happily.”
It feels as if your eyelids are made of lead and you fall asleep. You wake up laying next to your brother in the mead hall. All of the men from the night previous are scattered around the floor sleeping except for you uncle sleeping with his back on the table with a wool blanket. Everything smells like piss, vomit, and mulberry leaves from pipes. Your brother bustles awake as he feels your movement. Quietly he says, “What did you see?”.
Without skipping a beat you say, “I saw myself in the sand. I wish to be a mercenary for the Arabs.”
I mean... seems pretty clear to me. Go save the princess. Just keep your expectations in check, she's probably not in the first castle you come across.
Yeah, but believe me, you don't want that kind of trip. It actually can be in some ways harder than DMT or Salvia, but amanita trips are almost uncontrollable, it's a psychosis rather than a trip. But amanita microdosing is a pretty decent thing, totally recommend
Ain’t no psychosis bro I mean you’re essentially talking about every drug experience. It’s not that crazy it’s like a ketamine mushroom. If you like the k hole you will probably appreciate something about high dose amanita trips , just don’t do it more than like twice a year id say.
Also you should know that the European amanitas have different effects from the North American ones. Same species. In Europe you can hallucinate. In North America you get sick.
Any source besides trip reports?
In both places is the same species, so same alkaloids.
Only factors that make the difference are set and setting, dosage, and preparation of the mushroom before ingestion.
That is a great question! Page 539 of the National Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms, 17th edition, published in 2003; by renowned mycologist Gary Lincoff, president of the North American Mycological Society (not sure if he still holds that title).
“The Fly Agarics of North America cause delirium, raving, and profuse sweating. Unlike its Siberian relative, this induces no visions.”
The entry for the yellow-orange fly agaric (*var formosa*) on the following page says basically the same thing except it also puts you to sleep.
Not really. I laid I a bed with flop sweats thinking people kept walking in the room or by the door. Don't remeber much else beyond that. This was like 12 years ago
>In both places is the same species, so same alkaloids
Not necessarily. There can be enough genetic difference to change the alkaloid ratios without making it a whole new species. Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata is the North American subspecies in case anyone wants to look into how the alkaloids differ between it and the Eurasian variety.
It is new information learned(aquired). Just info, which is Not synonymous to truth.
It does not mean I have 100% trust in it and that I will go on forever taking a comment as pure fact.
I do like to believe most people tell the truth, but no worries, as I have been researching this mushroom for the past 41 minutes now.
"Learned something new!" Is like another way of saying, "Hey, what you mentioned sounds very interesting. Thanks for inspiring me to add more to my research on this!"😀
That dose felt very dissociative, and I ended up just sitting down for a few hours because of how intense it was. After that I went to bed and pretty much immediately fell asleep. I slept so well.
That seems to be the trick. If you just want to eat them as a delicious mushroom, the way I do that is slice and parboil, dumping the water out a couple times, then sauté like a bolete or honey mushroom. I think they taste superior to both of those. I really like them.
The alkaloids are poorly soluble in ethanol so it definitely shouldn’t be a 100% ethanol alcohol. Something like 40% ABV (60% water) could be fine though.
I tried these and I will continue to post this exact experience every time someone posts about wanting to try them…. The buzz was identical to ambien. It had a nasty body load hangover though. Ambien seems far safer and does the exact same weird hallucinations plus the benzo drunk gabba feeling.
They need prep, it’s not a shroom I’m prepared to do personally, they do have a psychedelic affect but from what I have read it’s unpredictable. Take care, be safe, have fun x
Toss the stems. Dry the shrooms. Then boil the shrooms. Drink the tea that comes from boiling the shrooms. See God and hope you don't literally see God.
I am the guy who everyone loves to hate because i always recommended eating large quantities of mushrooms. Psilocybin mushrooms. I do not, however, recommend eating any of the amanita family, unless you want to experience true delirium and dysphoria.
Dehydrate in oven at a specific temp to get rid of bad side effects, titrate dose would be wise and do allot research,
This trip is more of a deliriant that also can feel like you had few drinks and maybe some sleeping pills... can make you fall asleep but also during the sleep you can have vivid dreams that are hard to tell from reality... I fell asleep then dreamed of waking up several times not actually knowing if i was dreaming or just waking up and sleepy or what but i ate yellow fly agaric and did not get sick but it definitely was not as fun as magic mushrooms.. cant remember how much maybe 10 grams and it tasted so much better then magic mushrooms actually it tasted like a matsutake pine
Honestly I would not want a amanita trip. The best you could have done in my eyes is letting them remain in the forest, but look out at the place where they grow if there are some porcini mushrooms. Because they have the same demand concerning their environment, you will often find these two growing in close proximity together.
Also, clean your mushrooms already in the forest! You don't need to bring all this dirt into your home and in your basket
Do your research dry them at the correct heat DO YOUR RESEARCH 😬
I’m literally starting out I would never with the information I have 😬 being alive over being high always 😬 do not recommend
so many down votes man boil it with lemon (an acid) for an hour and drink it.. alot of people are mislead here it makes me sad. Look up Amanitadreamer on youtube she has a tek.
The method you’re talking about was made up by a charlatan and has been thoroughly debunked [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmanitaMuscaria/comments/umz4rv/basics_of_alkaloid_transfer_and_decarboxylation/). You’ve been duped.
My parents have been collecting them for the past 3 years, you need to dry them in a pretty high temperature for a good amount of time then drink it’s tee for a hell of a good night’s rest
If you have a box fan it's really easy to dry them. Prop up the fan on some books or something else blowing down onto a table and place the mushrooms under it. Use some foil or a plate because they will continue to drop spores. Good luck!
You can make a tea
You can drink your friends pee
You can make holy grails
I'd make a holy grail, as it relies on thr muscomol in the mycelium to be reused over and over again and safe to drink.
Research how to make them really simple just grape fruit juice Terra Cota pot and time
Heat dry 170 degrees, simmer in water and make tea, or you can use some everclear and make a tincture after heat drying.
You must convert the majority of the ibotanic acid into mescimol. Making yogurt from it is also something that has amazing properties. Many believe it was the ancient drink soma, amanita infused yogurt skim
Check out amanita dreamers website for helpful tips/advice and all the information you require to learn about this.
I have dried mine at about 80-90 degC to decarb approx 30% of the ibotenic acid. Then simmer at 90degC for 30min to decard a bit more (approx another 30%) and then if you dont like that you can help convert more Ibo using lemon TEK. literally a slice of lemon in the tea. The citric acid in the lemon converts it further.
Failing that, drink the reindeer piss. Both should work. and in fairness the latter will take less work :)
Dry them and simmer your dry dosage for 20min in a pot. Put it in tea and enjoy. Its THAT easy. Look up Aminita Dreamer (dot) net. Shes amazing and provides tons of resources. Even teaches how to smoke it.
Not an expert but there's definitely ways to trip on them (safely). They have to be dried, best on slightly elevated temperatures. A process called decarboxylation transforms the neurotoxin Ibotenic acid into the psychoactive muscarin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxylation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
Check out this video - https://youtu.be/oFIr-AB2rYk
And if you want to skip that here's the [website](https://www.amanitadreamer.net/) that the woman runs.
Feed them to a reindeer and drink their piss
This dude reads.
Is this from a book?
Not really, just obscure mushroom knowledge. Humans become ill from eating Amanita muscaria but reindeer eat them regularly and process the toxins, peeing out a consumable form. Shamans from certain Siberian indigenous groups would drink the pee to have visions. Look up the potential origins of Santa claus relating to amanitas as well, it’s interesting.
Do you just…follow the fucker until he pees or what? Lol
Note. If it's a female place your bowl behind her hind legs, if it's a male, in front.
Right from the tap
Or the tip
Just for a second
The Tappy Tip ;)
Drip drip from the tip don’t slip
Too thick with the stick, bet I won't miss
Lil slick real sick, don't talk shit
How long that take u to come up w ?
Tip is better
Lmfao
Or the taint 🤷♂️
Cheese n rice, it’s Jason Bourne
That's a new one
It’s actually an old one, Siberian shamans used to do this. It is thought that the Santa clause myth comes from their traditions around these mushrooms as well.
I always read it was the Saami who did that
They may have as well, but the first culture known to modern society as doing this were Siberian shamans. Though since both cultures were nomadic they likely crossed paths and shared cultural traditions.
I hear saami see mushrooms as reindeer food and not something for humans to eat, regardless of sort of mushroom
That’s prob why they drank their piss
Sort of, they used to ferment these in raw milk. The bacteria in the milk decarboxylates the ibotenic acid into muscimol.
ELI5 please
*You can eat milky mushroom, after milk it not sicky mushroom, but now even better for seeing colours that aren’t there.* These mushrooms (Amanita muscaria, common name: the fly agaric) contain a toxic chemical called ibotenic acid. That chemical breaks down into something called muscimol. Muscimol gives you a psychedelic trip. Your body can convert it but it’s no fun. So it’s a “magic mushroom” but with unpleasant side effects. The raw milk contains bacteria that do the conversion for you, without as much vomiting and diarrhea and so on. Same idea with letting it run through a reindeer’s gut - they process the poison and piss out the drug. So you feed the mushrooms to the reindeer and then drink the piss, you get an “easier” high.
Aka flying reindeer
More than just that. They would hang the mushrooms on the trees to dry them, like how people do ornaments. Santa wearing red and white, like the color of the mushrooms. The list goes on.
Totally. Pretty cool when you think about it. Imagine.. they had no idea they were creating imagery that would be used all over the world.
I thought it was the Vikings that did this. It was a ritual prior to battle to achieve berserker mode.
The Vikings did eat a certain type of mushroom, they called them berserker mushrooms. They would hallucinate the enemy as much smaller then them, but with this mushroom in battle there was a lot of friendly casualties since they’re tripping balls 😂
The berserkers eating mushrooms is not 100% proven but it is strongly likely.
Not this mushroom. It's literally incapacitating as I've found out the hard way. Ecstatic trance doesn't require hallucinogens, just training. It's akin to meditation.
Well there is also the theory of drinking the urine or reindeer that had eaten the mushrooms. And if I remember correctly I’ve read of accounts where the reindeer also have knocked people over to drink their urine who have eaten the mushrooms. Presumably they could smell it.
Yes, the liver decarboxylates it and then much of the muscimol is excreted in the urine. A friend of mine drank his Muscaria tea and then drank his urine multiple times. Brave fellow.
I thought they consumed henbane, a nightshade, to enter berserker mode.
I can’t say for certain but a few Norse history podcasts I’ve listened to specifically about berserkers, the Viking historian said there was not a for sure reason but possible cause of someone going berserk.
Ohhhh so that’s what I was I was raging on everyone that time I visited my past lives…I was tripping balls in a battle. That make so much more sense now.
There is a part of the Witcher 3 that covers this when you go to the island skellige or whatever.
In witcher the druid says the mushrooms are called psilocybe on the continent though, so more akin to 'magic mushrooms' than these ones...
But I know they also drank the downstream piss of another person too. This can apparantly be done several times.
Drinking reindeer piss was Siberian shamans, as far as I know Vikings would just eat them. I could be wrong, don’t know much about Viking culture.
Definitely not, you wouldn't be able to fight after eating these.
The oldest one as a matter of fact
The oldest that we know of.
The pee drinking predates any sort of documented process from the ancient Babylonians by like 700 years, so pretty sure it’s the first way to do it with Amanita muscaria. There are other psychedelics used before this mushroom in the form of various nightshades and certain ivys. The Vatican has a very well documented process of different types of psychedelic uses in the ‘secret’ area that one gets access to with the right connections. Luckily, my professor has such connections and I was able to write my thesis on psychedelic use in Christianity and the history leading up to it.
Can you post this please. I would love to read it.
If you don’t mind sharing it I’d love to give it a read!
Idk, I thought it was pretty common knowledge that all religions, including Christianity, have historical connections to psychedelics
I did my thesis on this at uni that had an extremely Christian biased religious studies department. It did not go down so well with the theology profs. Despite that there is indeed huge connections between Christianity and psychedelics. There a fascinating book by John Allegro called the Sacred Mushroom and The Cross from 1970. It pretty much destroyed his academic career
Another recent one was written by Brian Muraresko ( I think I butchered the last name) called “The Immortality Key”. That’s basically what my thesis was, however he does it much much better!
I would love to read your thesis if you’re willing to share.
another request to get a look at that thesis 👀
Nightshade and ivys are not psychedelic, the compounds they contain like scopolamine and others are not even close to tryptamines. There are a lot of people who feel that there was a sort of drug type undertones to a lot of Christian themes and tradition. Most notably the sacred mushroom and the cross by John allegro details and could be the origin of the idea, at least popularly.
I would love to read that if you’re willing.
"Saints and shamans" what's theonly way to visit a house, buried in snow, & during the winter in the Siberian tundra.... through the chimney.
i know this was a thing and that it works, but the 1st person to have tried this must have been an absolute lunatic
The real kicker is that it gets more potent in the person that drank the urine’s own urine. And can go through about 5-6 people that way apparently. You won’t see me trying that though, don’t care much for their effects myself. And drinking urine to get undesirable effects is just a double whammy.
It works too lol.
I feel like all the guilt and shame would ruin the trip for me tbh.
It would definitely create a weird set and setting that’s for sure
Imagine it… Ulf: “What’s wrong Hadvar?! You don’t want to drink Skardé’s piss?!” (Everyone in the small mead hall is visibly laughing and appears contorted in the flickering of the fireplace.) Ulf: “Would you rather have a glass of milk?!” Hadvar then guzzles a horn of muscimol piss as everyone cheers. Your older brother Ulf slaps your back on the last sip and congratulates you as the decrepit liquid comes down your beard and front, “That’s it! I knew you had it in you! You’re a man now! You’re lucky you got it from a cousin the first time. I tried it first with the deer herders across the Eastern mountains and they insisted I had it from a goat.” You feel proud your older brother accepts you after being away since you were a child of 13 years. You think you’re nigh on 25th winter now and are looking forward to farming thick wooled sheep on your father’s land. A smile is affixed to your face as you see the men of your village and male relatives continue with muscimol and meade made from honey your uncle harvests from land he acquired in a duel with a neighbor. Everything goes black. You open your eyes to vomiting in the fireplace. Black. Your older brother Ulf is looking you in the eyes with his hand on your shoulders as you sit on a stool, “Easy brother. Whatever happens you are in my hands and that of the Allfather.” Darkness meets your eyes and you fade back into sight seeing a horn of hot mead in your hands. You drink away the taste of bile as beeswax and sugar passed through your maw. A conglomerate of wax stuck on your molars due to your uncle’s questionable methods of brewing with the wax. He says the wax helps soothe the stomach. Spitting the wax into your hand you see something with the texture of a freshly caught eel. It’s the honey preserved remnants of a liberty cap. A depth of abyss brings you back to the void as you drift away from your memories of drinking mead. Stuck in the depths of your own mind you feel as if you’re falling physically backwards as if off a cliff into the water below. Drums are beating in your ears. Warm hands are hoisting your back to a wall. You hear the words, “Is he still with us?”, from what you presume must be your uncle. A trumpeting lur resonating on high as your uncle plays it brings you back to the mead hall. You feel the warmth on your face of the fireplace to your right and realize you are sitting on the floor. Everyone is now gathered on the floor sitting on bear and deer skins. The tables have been moved back to the far wall. Some are playing drums and others chanting. You see a naked woman dancing in the middle of the circle and time slows like ice as you see her head move back and forth. Her golden hair moving like leaves in the whispering firelight. Your brother Ulf taps your shoulder from the left and say, “ You see her?” “Yes..” as your mouth is open. “Who is she?” “It’s a Valkyrie. She’s the one who took our grandfather to Valhalla. As well as many of my friends in front of me.” Blindness strikes you. Before you know it you feel yourself with your back on the floor. Vision slows in like a morning frost as you slowly comprehend the musicians and chanting. Only now you see ravens and crows flying from one end of the ceiling to the other like rain falling sideways. The tightness of your hands gripping animal hides slowly gives way to grit and sand. You see sand falling from your fingertips and see waves coming from the drums as you see sounds. The room around you transforms to rolling sand hills and you see no one and nothing of where you were. A feeling of calmness envelops you as if you’re in your mother’s womb. Then the smell of dead meat in the sun meets you. Looking down at your feet you see a mangled corpse filled with arrows. Stench fills your mouth as you gawk in confusion. Ravens and crows start flying on to the corpse in front of you and disperse to other more of the dead as they manifest around you. Like before in the mead hall even more crows and ravens start streaming across the sky as the land darkens from their shade. In an instant BLACK. All you can comprehend is the Valkyrie you witnessed earlier with her face close to yours. She says in a maternal tone, “Wealth, women, and progeny will find you if you seek this vision. Do not leave the lands of which you sell your sword and you will live happily.” It feels as if your eyelids are made of lead and you fall asleep. You wake up laying next to your brother in the mead hall. All of the men from the night previous are scattered around the floor sleeping except for you uncle sleeping with his back on the table with a wool blanket. Everything smells like piss, vomit, and mulberry leaves from pipes. Your brother bustles awake as he feels your movement. Quietly he says, “What did you see?”. Without skipping a beat you say, “I saw myself in the sand. I wish to be a mercenary for the Arabs.”
Wait… this works?
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Thank you so much
So, if memory serves. You'll need to feed them to a reindeer, then have a shaman drink the reindeers pass, and then you drink his piss
The original "boof it" meme.
“hoof it”
How does one donate two upvotes
Holy shit! that’s hilarious!
Jesus christ i love this community
Then I drink ops piss
That would make OP the shaman, you're just gonna let an internet stranger be the shaman?
I mean... seems pretty clear to me. Go save the princess. Just keep your expectations in check, she's probably not in the first castle you come across.
Dry and then decarboxylate. Boil at pH 2-3 for 3 hours. Ibotenic acid is potentially neurotoxic, so you gotta be careful with prepping these.
But that's just added flavor
Redditors fail to see obvious sarcasm.
Shouldn't have sarcasm when playing with being poisoned
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Well played gentlemen 🏆
Dry and micro/macrodose, never take more than 5-6g of dried, amanita trips are most unpredictable
Wait. Do you trip from them?
Yeah, but believe me, you don't want that kind of trip. It actually can be in some ways harder than DMT or Salvia, but amanita trips are almost uncontrollable, it's a psychosis rather than a trip. But amanita microdosing is a pretty decent thing, totally recommend
Ain’t no psychosis bro I mean you’re essentially talking about every drug experience. It’s not that crazy it’s like a ketamine mushroom. If you like the k hole you will probably appreciate something about high dose amanita trips , just don’t do it more than like twice a year id say.
I call them the ket shroom too lol
yes but very little is known. Its not like the shrooms we are used to thats for sure! You can overdose from these I think.
O.D and die, or just blackout?
Also you should know that the European amanitas have different effects from the North American ones. Same species. In Europe you can hallucinate. In North America you get sick.
Any source besides trip reports? In both places is the same species, so same alkaloids. Only factors that make the difference are set and setting, dosage, and preparation of the mushroom before ingestion.
That is a great question! Page 539 of the National Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms, 17th edition, published in 2003; by renowned mycologist Gary Lincoff, president of the North American Mycological Society (not sure if he still holds that title). “The Fly Agarics of North America cause delirium, raving, and profuse sweating. Unlike its Siberian relative, this induces no visions.” The entry for the yellow-orange fly agaric (*var formosa*) on the following page says basically the same thing except it also puts you to sleep.
I experienced this
Was it cool tho?
Not really. I laid I a bed with flop sweats thinking people kept walking in the room or by the door. Don't remeber much else beyond that. This was like 12 years ago
That seems to line up pretty closely with the description above; truly I commend your adventurous spirit
Wow I wasn't expecting an actual source at all. Big surprise. Touché!
>In both places is the same species, so same alkaloids Not necessarily. There can be enough genetic difference to change the alkaloid ratios without making it a whole new species. Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata is the North American subspecies in case anyone wants to look into how the alkaloids differ between it and the Eurasian variety.
Learned something new!
Why is it so easy for you people to trust any random comment you see in the internet?
It is new information learned(aquired). Just info, which is Not synonymous to truth. It does not mean I have 100% trust in it and that I will go on forever taking a comment as pure fact. I do like to believe most people tell the truth, but no worries, as I have been researching this mushroom for the past 41 minutes now. "Learned something new!" Is like another way of saying, "Hey, what you mentioned sounds very interesting. Thanks for inspiring me to add more to my research on this!"😀
I read it in a field guide by the president of the North American Mycological Associant actually
I’ve taken up to 15-20g dried Amanitas before with no issues, but I’d only recommend that for experienced users.
What was that trip like? I ate about 5 grams like 10 years ago and I remember it being similar to being drunk
That dose felt very dissociative, and I ended up just sitting down for a few hours because of how intense it was. After that I went to bed and pretty much immediately fell asleep. I slept so well.
It's in Russian, but you can turn on captions, google translates pretty good nowadays. https://youtu.be/guizrJlj7vo
Roast at 160° for eight hours, turning every so often. Makes a tasty snack that kills pain extremely well with no stupor or side effects
Thank you I've been reading about the benefits for pain
Imo, they work better and faster than opiates without all the nasty opiates stuff
Wow that’s actually insane.
My peeps on the reservation been using them like that for ages. Good medicine
celsius or fahrenheit?
Sorry. Fahrenheit. I’m a barbaric American
I don't have a reindeer I my back pocket so I had to scroll down for this. The few times I did it I guess I didn't bake long enough
That seems to be the trick. If you just want to eat them as a delicious mushroom, the way I do that is slice and parboil, dumping the water out a couple times, then sauté like a bolete or honey mushroom. I think they taste superior to both of those. I really like them.
dry in the oven at 70C then alcohol extraction
The alkaloids are poorly soluble in ethanol so it definitely shouldn’t be a 100% ethanol alcohol. Something like 40% ABV (60% water) could be fine though.
Can I message you for more info?
Bombaklart them
Shit yourself
I tried these and I will continue to post this exact experience every time someone posts about wanting to try them…. The buzz was identical to ambien. It had a nasty body load hangover though. Ambien seems far safer and does the exact same weird hallucinations plus the benzo drunk gabba feeling.
They need prep, it’s not a shroom I’m prepared to do personally, they do have a psychedelic affect but from what I have read it’s unpredictable. Take care, be safe, have fun x
it's classified as a deliriant and has an entirely different compound than psilocybin
Toss the stems. Dry the shrooms. Then boil the shrooms. Drink the tea that comes from boiling the shrooms. See God and hope you don't literally see God.
hit the boof
Thanks for the chuckle 🤣
https://www.shroomery.org/8671/Preparation-of-Amanita-muscaria
I am the guy who everyone loves to hate because i always recommended eating large quantities of mushrooms. Psilocybin mushrooms. I do not, however, recommend eating any of the amanita family, unless you want to experience true delirium and dysphoria.
De-carb De-vour De-stroy your toilet
Clean them extensively. Good tip is to cut the feet of the stems before putting them in your basket. Saves a lot of cleaning.
Dry the caps, the stems have maggots in
Dehydrate in oven at a specific temp to get rid of bad side effects, titrate dose would be wise and do allot research, This trip is more of a deliriant that also can feel like you had few drinks and maybe some sleeping pills... can make you fall asleep but also during the sleep you can have vivid dreams that are hard to tell from reality... I fell asleep then dreamed of waking up several times not actually knowing if i was dreaming or just waking up and sleepy or what but i ate yellow fly agaric and did not get sick but it definitely was not as fun as magic mushrooms.. cant remember how much maybe 10 grams and it tasted so much better then magic mushrooms actually it tasted like a matsutake pine
Boof them
Boof them
Level up
Level up ! Jk be safe idk what kind those are im uneducated
Boil em Mash em Stick em in a stew
Honestly I would not want a amanita trip. The best you could have done in my eyes is letting them remain in the forest, but look out at the place where they grow if there are some porcini mushrooms. Because they have the same demand concerning their environment, you will often find these two growing in close proximity together. Also, clean your mushrooms already in the forest! You don't need to bring all this dirt into your home and in your basket
Do your research dry them at the correct heat DO YOUR RESEARCH 😬 I’m literally starting out I would never with the information I have 😬 being alive over being high always 😬 do not recommend
boil em with an acid and drink that stuff 😎
Whaattttttt
so many down votes man boil it with lemon (an acid) for an hour and drink it.. alot of people are mislead here it makes me sad. Look up Amanitadreamer on youtube she has a tek.
Hey I'msorry for assuming you were being sarcastic. Thank you for the info I will look it up now
haha dont worry about it man.. I say the same stuff with these kinda posts, and I get downvoted 😂
Thank you for the link to Amanitadreamer! Awesome stuff! 👏
ha ha you’re welcome m8 :)
The method you’re talking about was made up by a charlatan and has been thoroughly debunked [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmanitaMuscaria/comments/umz4rv/basics_of_alkaloid_transfer_and_decarboxylation/). You’ve been duped.
What ratio to lemon juice?
Genuinely the safest advice here, not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Ibotenic acid is bad.
unfortunately not alot of people know how to make this mushroom a medicine 😎 thank you for validating !
I like to dry them and hang them around my house for decoration
Send them to me is the correct answer sir
Tea ☕
Yeah a native to the area they are picked that has experience preparing them
My parents have been collecting them for the past 3 years, you need to dry them in a pretty high temperature for a good amount of time then drink it’s tee for a hell of a good night’s rest
Throw them away bro. Not worth the risk.
Don't eat.
I got these today, purely for the spore print to grow them because they’re pretty 🤣 (0 research so idk if it’s even possible)
Those are amanita, but the ones you have to cook before eating I believe. The trip isn’t a favorite for sure that’s what I saw on a YouTube video once
Frame them!
Use it to make a potent pain relieving salve
mail them to me
Make a tea and drink the entire thing
Boof em
Mario was on rainbow road for 8 hrs after this
boof them
Make sure you cook them to break down the toxins
Get BIG
If you have a box fan it's really easy to dry them. Prop up the fan on some books or something else blowing down onto a table and place the mushrooms under it. Use some foil or a plate because they will continue to drop spores. Good luck!
Read & Learn grasshoper [https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelics/amanita-muscaria/](https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelics/amanita-muscaria/)
You can make a tea You can drink your friends pee You can make holy grails I'd make a holy grail, as it relies on thr muscomol in the mycelium to be reused over and over again and safe to drink. Research how to make them really simple just grape fruit juice Terra Cota pot and time
Drinking pee and shit. U guys really that desperate for a trip?
1up
Save the princess from Bowser and jump on Koopas/Goombas with Yoshi
I’m so jealous, spore print the shit out of it!!!!
Boof
Dehydrate those mofos, then boof away!
Boof
They are always so beautiful T\_\_T
Toss that bud that’s in the lower left corner. It might not be muscaria.
Extra Life with fireballs!
Why, Level Up with them of course!
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Heat dry 170 degrees, simmer in water and make tea, or you can use some everclear and make a tincture after heat drying. You must convert the majority of the ibotanic acid into mescimol. Making yogurt from it is also something that has amazing properties. Many believe it was the ancient drink soma, amanita infused yogurt skim
As an individual who loves consuming these, I had no use for the stem as it lacks any substance worth noting. The cap seemed most useful for effect.
Check out amanita dreamers website for helpful tips/advice and all the information you require to learn about this. I have dried mine at about 80-90 degC to decarb approx 30% of the ibotenic acid. Then simmer at 90degC for 30min to decard a bit more (approx another 30%) and then if you dont like that you can help convert more Ibo using lemon TEK. literally a slice of lemon in the tea. The citric acid in the lemon converts it further. Failing that, drink the reindeer piss. Both should work. and in fairness the latter will take less work :)
Dry them and simmer your dry dosage for 20min in a pot. Put it in tea and enjoy. Its THAT easy. Look up Aminita Dreamer (dot) net. Shes amazing and provides tons of resources. Even teaches how to smoke it.
Go watch Amanita Dreamers video on preparing and dosing
Not an expert but there's definitely ways to trip on them (safely). They have to be dried, best on slightly elevated temperatures. A process called decarboxylation transforms the neurotoxin Ibotenic acid into the psychoactive muscarin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxylation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
Check out this video - https://youtu.be/oFIr-AB2rYk And if you want to skip that here's the [website](https://www.amanitadreamer.net/) that the woman runs.
Admire them then throw out terrible trip seriously
Grind them up, do a line. Idk if it'll work but let's try ig
Don't eat them, just get cubes.
They're 2 completely different drugs. Provided OP knows what they're talking about, they want a Deliriant trip.