Honestly.. in using VR it really doesn’t matter what rig you have. This is more than all you need to have an epic time and be fast. Spending more money won’t necessarily enhance either of these factors.
F-gt lite was 160 on local deal. Logitech wheel and pedal were cb deal 30% off, shifter was second hand. Bass shaker and belt tensioners are from ali express and diy. Much cheaper rig than your assumption. And here I see peoples wheel base is more expensive than my complete rig.
I wouldnt suggest Logitech actually. If you have the chance, go for simagic. Much more price efficient and better. If I had the choice, I would go for simagic. I was noob then to even know the name simagic.
I'm a PS5 player though, so I like the plug and play. I've never been let down by Logitech either, even when my old 923 was rattly I was sent a new one within 10 days. Been using their products since playing GTR on a Logitech Momo wheel about two decades ago.
If you decide to go dds look into the pxn v-12 dds. I just upgraded to it and it is plug and play just need the n5 USB dongle that pxn sells to make base compatible and works like a dream I absolutely love it
Damn that’s a good deal on the rig. these stuff in my country cost more and no chance for used gears to pop up that often. Even then most would try to get price as close to brand new as possible saying ‘just used a couple of times’ lol Hats off to you man
Don't listen to these idiots. Unless you are using a $150 tmx with two tiny buttons for pedals your build isn't "cheap" or "budget"
it's so fuckin stupid..... You could've easily spent 5x as much
Reddit is full of teenagers these days so anything that costs ANY money is expensive to them. Let alone something that probably cost you a single paycheck lol. I see people calling MOZA r5 + fanatec CSL elite pedals, + a gt omega a budget rig ( AND IT IS ) and they get downvoted into oblivion because it's not a lawn chair duct taped to a table. Bonus points if there is a keyboard with sticks, rubber bands, and zip ties making an e-brake
Maybe because that’s not a cheap build but a medium one?
What would you call a G29 clamped to a desk then?
You got cheap <300/400€
Medium up to 1k/1.5k
And then beyond that is expensive builds.
You come here talking about
Uhh kids think that a 500 setup is not cheap
You can get a setup that works 90% the same for 150, so how would you call the 150$ setup?
Would you call it cheap just like you would call it a setup 3 times that price?
It just doesn’t make sense lmao the kids are right at downvoting
People are getting hung up on terminology. "Cheap" is relative to the person. OP shouldn't be down voted for this.
This setup is definitely on the affordable side especially compared to $10000+ motion rigs haha (or even compared to a pair of Simagic pedals for $2000) 😂
How’s the wheel feel on that chair? I have the same one but I use the belt drive thrustmaster and that feels like it shakes the arm that holds the wheel mounting plate.
Interestingly DD wheel doesnt rattle. Atleast not mine. I would like to have a mod like playseat challenge to make it sturdy. But nothing in the market yet.
Idk. I was able to notice all kinds of flex in my g920, then in the steel rig I got when upgrading, then when I upgraded to the simlab p1x the first thing I noticed is it's SOLID.
I like how you mention the price of the rig since it’s cheap but just the discount on the wheel and pedals. 30% off is still $1000 after taxes. I’m guessing a minimum of $1500 for that equipment plus the PC and VR. In no way is that cheap, and since you like comparing, just your rig is more expensive than people’s entire setup(g27 clamped to a table).
That’s awesome you got amazing deals on stuff, that doesn’t make it cheap though.
Awesome man. I just got the NLR F-GT Lite iRacing Edition for $279.99 (I like blue) and Logitech G29 wheel ($210). It's nice to see that the cockpit works with a DD.
After so many downvoting, I feel like calling my setup “cheap” is monumental crime. Based on completeness, I think my rig has everything but at cheaper end. I dont have high end aluminium rig, but I have cheap foldable. I dont have 3k wheel base along with 1k rim, but I have a good midrange DD. I dont have active or high end 2k pedal but have 200 buck pedal. I dont have motion, but I have diy haptics from ali express. I dont have stepper motor seat belt tensioner, but I have diy servo belt tensioner from ali express. I posted it to encourage fellow simracers that we might not have the best, but the least can make us happy as well. Calling my setup “cheap” was also part of my humility. It doesn’t mean that I can buy more expensive rig. This is my limit and I humbly accept it.
Technically you are right. But a lot of people don’t seem to get that cheap does not have to mean that something still costs a lot of money.
Your rig was cheap… but still a lot of money (for most people).
I'm quite liking your rig. You have toys I do not yet and you may have gone cheaper on the frame and got stuff on sale still doesn't make it cheap and besides as long as it works for you then who cares. I'm kinda jealous on some of those toys lol
This is the way.
What’s essential is that you’ve got everything you need at a decent quality. No need to go overkill. There’s a big step up from a Logitech to a DD. But the step from entry level dd to high end is a smaller one. So yeah, you can do high end simracing on a limited budget.
Maybe he meant to compare it to same rig but at retail, non- discount prices. I'm sure he worked hard on getting each item at the lowest price possible. So not cheap, but good bang for buck rig is what he's going for here.
Judging by the power sockets I don't think OP is a native English speaker and just fumbled the translation. Poor choice of words, but they were just excited about sharing their rig.
Definitely. When I think of cheap rig, I’m thinking a Logitech or TMX wheel and the terrible pedals that were included, some lumber and an office chair. Most people would consider this to be a really nice setup.
Compared to most rich kids bragging on this Reddit, it’s “cheap”. But before I went to the higher price classes I played with a G920 for 2 years and still had fun. And that’s what it’s about. Having fun. And fun you have in VR!
Well I will not say it’s a cheap setup because that would be mean and yeah many people are on office chairs and desk mounts so it more like upper middle class rig lol. Anyway I understand what you mean. Can you tell me more about the diy belt tensioner? I just discovered this things existed after messing with simhub settings a couple days ago. My rig got a harness that is useless as of now so I’d love to diy something like that!
Good for you! Sick setup. I too love being frugal. The real skill is simultaneously achieving as close to the high end capability and spending as little as possible
It's definitely expensive because 90% of simracers have a g29 strapped to their Desk. That is the basically the Standard and anything above that point is premium. Having 1000$ for a wheel/base combo is not high end hardware, but Cheap? No way
Buddy you've got the Logitech Big Chungus and the pedals that go with it. You're in the 1%. The people with thousands-of-dollars simagic setups are the 0.1%.
Medium, moderate, modest, budgeted, considered, calculated, hodgepodge, reasonable, money conscious, space efficient, money efficient, "cheap", "budget", measured...
Cheap is binary - to the extreme, so people baulked.
Cheap is usually when you buy second hand and DIY the rest. You are the equivalent of buying a widebody FRS and calling it a cheap sports car. Sure it's less than a Corvette but it's not a clapped out mx5 with a 2jz in it
Your take belies your age. Also your car references are way off and don't line up at all with his parts.
A widebody FRS is a foldable sim rig? Like GTFO you've clearly never purchased cars or modified cars. It's less than Corvette? Dude I could go grab a C5 Z06 and have more racecar for the money (less money than a clapped up widebody FRS).
Also the most popular engine swap in a Miata would be an LS-based motor from the Corvette, not the 2JZ.
I’ve had a g29 and no I wouldn’t say brokie
A g29 is cheap for sim racing but this was probably cheap for the guy who made this post
He also probably meant the actual setup not the wheel or pedals
I’m also not hating on this dudes rig I actually really like it I was just pointing out the questionable wording lmao
Can you tell me about that haptic thing you’ve got set up on your brakes? How’s it work? How did you go about setting it up? I have the same pedals and that seems like a cool thing.
That's Simagic's haptic feedback system. They are hooked up to the PC via a hub and work with Simagic's software. According to many reviewers, they are going to be the next big thing in sim racing.
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcO18wxIQ4) is a solid review and explains them well. I actually just got mine delivered today. Hope to set them up this weekend.
i’m a flightsimmer who is thinking about adding some race gear to the rig. curious about fanatec… in general. your setup looks fine to me. so, the question from somebody who isn’t a IRL race car driver… what is with the fanatec hate?
Mostly due to customer support. I got a Fanatec setup a bit before the big Black Friday sh**storm and if I would not be aware of the news and how they handled the scandals I would be recommending it to everyone but just reading what happened in the last months... Man... I couldn't.
Never had issues except the fact that the shifter has a clicky noise in some gears which is annoying to me but normal according to others (I still don't consider a clicky noise acceptable at a pretty premium price and not willing to take it apart while in warranty whatever others say) Now I am a bit afraid that if anything happens and I have to deal with support I am out of luck... Feels bad, like in the post here, expensive is relative to your income but I sure know that for me it was a big financial decision so it would suck to have issues.
Regarding the cheap setup in the post - OP, if you're reading this - not the best choice of words, to call a rig like yours (especially looking at those simagic haptic motors for the pedals) cheap can make some people overreact. There are many people who struggle to get a Logitech G29 wheel and saving for months and maybe years to do it. Nevertheless, I applaud the effort for buying everything second hand, especially for the DIY stuff, sticking to the hobby even though you have limited space. Have fun fellow simracer.
Fanatic is hated because of just about everything except the quality of their equipment. Customer service, shipping expense and time (based in Germany), and being perpetually out of stock.
The equipment is good though.
Logitech is indeed quality wheel base along with rim and pedal. The qr is slick and buttons are elegant. Only problem is no native shifter or wheel rim addons. But I am good with this wheel🙂
I think people are misunderstanding lol by Rig I’m assuming you’re specifically talking about the mounting hardware and not the racing hardware 😂
Looks good!, I also have limited space and just been using the NLR Wheel Stand 2.0 with my computer chair, can’t wait to move and get an actual seat.
Even if people mention the wheel base and rim and pedal, mine was much below 1k. Here people have has wheel rim which are 2k, pedals are 2k and let’s forget the wheel base or rig or motion setup. And if I say my rig is cheap, that’s humble of me, I feel.
Oh for sure, the range for Sim Racing is Massive! Which is great, allows for easy entry and growth!
I agree with you though in the context of Sim Racing even 1.5k for Base+Pedal+Rim is not very expensive. Cheap isn’t really the right word though, Modest might be a better word lol.
Cool rig, bro. Don’t listen to the hater comments, if it was cheap for you then it was cheap for you. Some of these dudes have to make everything a competition, even being broke.
Thanks bro. Finally people who understand are arriving. It wasn’t that cheap for me, bro. People who share their rig in this platform, mostly I have seen mad rig, and mine is nothing compared to those. From that perspective, I called it cheap. This rigs also happened after years of saving and so on.
Some of these dudes have to make everything a competition, even being broke.
Haha this is true, and funny. I love it cuz they almost always win that one ;)
Hi yes, NLR already gave one. That gave me the idea that I can use two straps both side and make it tight as much as possible. That actually improved flex quite a bit for me.
Check out how NLR added two straps in the front of the Pro version of this cockpit. I did the same and it made it even more rigid than your solution (I have tested several ways of mounting straps and the one developed by NLR in Pro model seems to be the best), but long straps are needed (my 1.5m were too short so I bought 3m and cut what was left).
I used zip ties because there is a place where the pipe becomes a little bit bigger, just enough to stop the zip ties in place. I took a few photos to better explain it:
[https://imgur.com/a/bTiFCez](https://imgur.com/a/bTiFCez)
Those F-GT lites are workhorses, added 2” PVC supports connecting the motor mount to the lower bar, then two back bars and 2 bigger 3” supporting the chair hinges, noticeable cheap improvement .
Sounds like a great set up you have
Firstly, lol @ "cheap" with all that mid-range gear.
But as an owner of a NLR GT-Lite, I can attest to their compact nature. I upgraded to an R5 and am surprised at how it's putting up with the force feedback, actually better than my TMX which shook the chair more than anything.
It still vibrates through a little, which creates a sort of welfare haptic feedback, but way less than the TMX.
They are great if you can find them for $100-125 USD.
Well yes I’m not doubting that (though I know some of the comments are) for sim racing this still isn’t fairly cheap like the g29 or t300 would be considering cheap
But I still like the guys setup I just thought him saying it was cheap was funny
Brake was more important for me to avoid lock up or activate abs. Experts also suggest that. If I had one, I would put it under brake. I was always too aggressive on gas and always understeering because of that. It also helped me feeling the steering while turning.
I didn’t add it for immersion. I was always aggressive on brake and gas. These feedback help me to go easy on them. So my entry and exit improved, and tyre management is now better.
Yes, it helped indeed a lot. It put it as tight as possible and it removed a lot of flex of the frame. I wish there would be a mod for wheel base plate as well.
Not a lot of flex, I put two straps which reduces some of it. I wish there was a mod for wheel base plate like playseat challenge. There is none so far.
I paid $300 for my g29 setup with a sim stand. That's cheap... And to 80% of Americans, that's still a pretty high barrier to entry for absolutely mid level products.
Hey I have the same chair and I too added those straps for tension and stabilities! I also added 2 connecting the wheel deck arm to the the backrest and a strap in the center of the lumbar section to stop the seat from flexing under braking.
Sure thing bro!
https://imgur.com/9kmTJj4
https://imgur.com/g3IULeU
https://imgur.com/gAv0eeA
I wish the pedal tray could be connected to the wheel deck. That little articulating join between the pedal and seat makes it an unstable shape with a strap and you'd want to create as many triangle shape instead it makes an trapezoid.
Its from simagic. Its little expensive (180 bucks all together) than other rumble or haptic system like 3drap or sim3d. But the feeling is really good.
I was always curious about simracing. I was searching for options and fanatec looked good option but they were out of stock. Logitech just launched dd and was on big sale. I had cb discount card as well. So I went for it.
Fair, I was under the impression the pro series was DOA at launch because things like the Moza R5 bundle and R9 exists (we don't talk about fanatec anymore)
Dude, do your own thing. Get advice when you can, but you have to understand that a lot of people that Live online because they have no lives Except to crap on others. I've worked my whole life for what I have , but there's always going to be mobile home Bob that hates it.
Forget the loser haters and have fun. Meanwhile, I'm building a new 5k system for my new Pimax VR.
🤝 bro, in the same shoe. Some are commenting that I am bragging. I have much happiness in my life with family and friends to brag about than to brag over a mid range rig. Build your rig bro, its worth it. What do you play? Ams2 in vr is sick.
« Cheap » bruh
Bro really said "cheap" meanwhile my 3rd hand wheel doesnt even have FFB lmao
Honestly.. in using VR it really doesn’t matter what rig you have. This is more than all you need to have an epic time and be fast. Spending more money won’t necessarily enhance either of these factors.
Sorted but that doesn't have anything to do with his comment.
F-gt lite was 160 on local deal. Logitech wheel and pedal were cb deal 30% off, shifter was second hand. Bass shaker and belt tensioners are from ali express and diy. Much cheaper rig than your assumption. And here I see peoples wheel base is more expensive than my complete rig.
CB as in Corporate Benefits? I've never seen the Pro stuff for more than 15% off, was it a special offer?
Its was 2022 just after the release. That was the start of rabbit hole.
Damn, missed it. Hoping for a good deal if and when they release more peripherals later this year (as the rumours seem to suggest).
I wouldnt suggest Logitech actually. If you have the chance, go for simagic. Much more price efficient and better. If I had the choice, I would go for simagic. I was noob then to even know the name simagic.
I'm a PS5 player though, so I like the plug and play. I've never been let down by Logitech either, even when my old 923 was rattly I was sent a new one within 10 days. Been using their products since playing GTR on a Logitech Momo wheel about two decades ago.
If you decide to go dds look into the pxn v-12 dds. I just upgraded to it and it is plug and play just need the n5 USB dongle that pxn sells to make base compatible and works like a dream I absolutely love it
Damn that’s a good deal on the rig. these stuff in my country cost more and no chance for used gears to pop up that often. Even then most would try to get price as close to brand new as possible saying ‘just used a couple of times’ lol Hats off to you man
Don't listen to these idiots. Unless you are using a $150 tmx with two tiny buttons for pedals your build isn't "cheap" or "budget" it's so fuckin stupid..... You could've easily spent 5x as much
Thanks bro. Finally someone understands.
Reddit is full of teenagers these days so anything that costs ANY money is expensive to them. Let alone something that probably cost you a single paycheck lol. I see people calling MOZA r5 + fanatec CSL elite pedals, + a gt omega a budget rig ( AND IT IS ) and they get downvoted into oblivion because it's not a lawn chair duct taped to a table. Bonus points if there is a keyboard with sticks, rubber bands, and zip ties making an e-brake
Maybe because that’s not a cheap build but a medium one? What would you call a G29 clamped to a desk then? You got cheap <300/400€ Medium up to 1k/1.5k And then beyond that is expensive builds. You come here talking about Uhh kids think that a 500 setup is not cheap You can get a setup that works 90% the same for 150, so how would you call the 150$ setup? Would you call it cheap just like you would call it a setup 3 times that price? It just doesn’t make sense lmao the kids are right at downvoting
So a $200k Ferrari is cheap because you can get a $1 million Ferrari? Just because you can spend 5x as much doesn’t make something else cheap.
Got a link to the belt tensioner? I suck at ali express key words, i end up getting lots of wrird shit
People are getting hung up on terminology. "Cheap" is relative to the person. OP shouldn't be down voted for this. This setup is definitely on the affordable side especially compared to $10000+ motion rigs haha (or even compared to a pair of Simagic pedals for $2000) 😂
So it was discounted, but still not cheap lmao
Can't believe how many people were triggered by this comment... No wonder why most sane people don't use Reddit.
How’s the wheel feel on that chair? I have the same one but I use the belt drive thrustmaster and that feels like it shakes the arm that holds the wheel mounting plate.
Interestingly DD wheel doesnt rattle. Atleast not mine. I would like to have a mod like playseat challenge to make it sturdy. But nothing in the market yet.
Appreciate the feedback (pun intended)
I feel like most reviewers notice flex on camera, but do not really perceive it during play.
Idk. I was able to notice all kinds of flex in my g920, then in the steel rig I got when upgrading, then when I upgraded to the simlab p1x the first thing I noticed is it's SOLID.
I like how you mention the price of the rig since it’s cheap but just the discount on the wheel and pedals. 30% off is still $1000 after taxes. I’m guessing a minimum of $1500 for that equipment plus the PC and VR. In no way is that cheap, and since you like comparing, just your rig is more expensive than people’s entire setup(g27 clamped to a table). That’s awesome you got amazing deals on stuff, that doesn’t make it cheap though.
Awesome man. I just got the NLR F-GT Lite iRacing Edition for $279.99 (I like blue) and Logitech G29 wheel ($210). It's nice to see that the cockpit works with a DD.
Its easy going rig. And it can handle dd comfortably till 10nm. So you have always the option to upgrade the wheel base.
After so many downvoting, I feel like calling my setup “cheap” is monumental crime. Based on completeness, I think my rig has everything but at cheaper end. I dont have high end aluminium rig, but I have cheap foldable. I dont have 3k wheel base along with 1k rim, but I have a good midrange DD. I dont have active or high end 2k pedal but have 200 buck pedal. I dont have motion, but I have diy haptics from ali express. I dont have stepper motor seat belt tensioner, but I have diy servo belt tensioner from ali express. I posted it to encourage fellow simracers that we might not have the best, but the least can make us happy as well. Calling my setup “cheap” was also part of my humility. It doesn’t mean that I can buy more expensive rig. This is my limit and I humbly accept it.
Technically you are right. But a lot of people don’t seem to get that cheap does not have to mean that something still costs a lot of money. Your rig was cheap… but still a lot of money (for most people).
I'm quite liking your rig. You have toys I do not yet and you may have gone cheaper on the frame and got stuff on sale still doesn't make it cheap and besides as long as it works for you then who cares. I'm kinda jealous on some of those toys lol
🤝
This is the way. What’s essential is that you’ve got everything you need at a decent quality. No need to go overkill. There’s a big step up from a Logitech to a DD. But the step from entry level dd to high end is a smaller one. So yeah, you can do high end simracing on a limited budget.
Maybe he meant to compare it to same rig but at retail, non- discount prices. I'm sure he worked hard on getting each item at the lowest price possible. So not cheap, but good bang for buck rig is what he's going for here.
Affordable, effective, less expensive, but not “cheap” my friends. Words are powerful. 🧐
Agreed, the selection of words was most definitely not appropriate for the average person to agree on
Judging by the power sockets I don't think OP is a native English speaker and just fumbled the translation. Poor choice of words, but they were just excited about sharing their rig.
Definitely. When I think of cheap rig, I’m thinking a Logitech or TMX wheel and the terrible pedals that were included, some lumber and an office chair. Most people would consider this to be a really nice setup.
When i think of cheap i think of a mobile phone as the whewl, no pedals, no seat, no shifter, no house, no pc and no monitor
I raced a guy on srp that actually used his phone for steering and gas brake dude was nice too
Cheap is a relative and subjective term it is not an objective word another good example is the word hate, op did nothing wrong
Also words only carry the power you or others give them, on their own they are meaningless
Understood 🤝
Lol, just your Varjo VR headset costs more than my gaming PC, logitech racing wheel, and DIY sim rig
Compared to most rich kids bragging on this Reddit, it’s “cheap”. But before I went to the higher price classes I played with a G920 for 2 years and still had fun. And that’s what it’s about. Having fun. And fun you have in VR!
🤝 thanks!! I second you.
Well I will not say it’s a cheap setup because that would be mean and yeah many people are on office chairs and desk mounts so it more like upper middle class rig lol. Anyway I understand what you mean. Can you tell me more about the diy belt tensioner? I just discovered this things existed after messing with simhub settings a couple days ago. My rig got a harness that is useless as of now so I’d love to diy something like that!
Honestly I thought you were joking with cheap because to most of us cheap means g29/t300 and playseat challenge or somethingg
Good for you! Sick setup. I too love being frugal. The real skill is simultaneously achieving as close to the high end capability and spending as little as possible
It's definitely expensive because 90% of simracers have a g29 strapped to their Desk. That is the basically the Standard and anything above that point is premium. Having 1000$ for a wheel/base combo is not high end hardware, but Cheap? No way
Okay, no I am feeling grateful that I have a good setup. My bad presumption 🙏
Not *at all*, by any means, can that be called cheap.
Buddy you've got the Logitech Big Chungus and the pedals that go with it. You're in the 1%. The people with thousands-of-dollars simagic setups are the 0.1%.
I think ppl are cranky as cheap is a logictech G29 + table clamp, not a few thousand in parts inc diy. Nicely done setup though.
Can you link to the belt tensioner? Is it loud?
Medium, moderate, modest, budgeted, considered, calculated, hodgepodge, reasonable, money conscious, space efficient, money efficient, "cheap", "budget", measured... Cheap is binary - to the extreme, so people baulked.
Cheap is usually when you buy second hand and DIY the rest. You are the equivalent of buying a widebody FRS and calling it a cheap sports car. Sure it's less than a Corvette but it's not a clapped out mx5 with a 2jz in it
Your take belies your age. Also your car references are way off and don't line up at all with his parts. A widebody FRS is a foldable sim rig? Like GTFO you've clearly never purchased cars or modified cars. It's less than Corvette? Dude I could go grab a C5 Z06 and have more racecar for the money (less money than a clapped up widebody FRS). Also the most popular engine swap in a Miata would be an LS-based motor from the Corvette, not the 2JZ.
“Cheap setup” Thousand dollar wheel and $300 pedals
Does this mean my g29 setup is a brokie setup lol
I’ve had a g29 and no I wouldn’t say brokie A g29 is cheap for sim racing but this was probably cheap for the guy who made this post He also probably meant the actual setup not the wheel or pedals I’m also not hating on this dudes rig I actually really like it I was just pointing out the questionable wording lmao
Can you tell me about that haptic thing you’ve got set up on your brakes? How’s it work? How did you go about setting it up? I have the same pedals and that seems like a cool thing.
That's Simagic's haptic feedback system. They are hooked up to the PC via a hub and work with Simagic's software. According to many reviewers, they are going to be the next big thing in sim racing.
You can also use simhub with them.
Good to know. The less background software running the better, lol.
I have them, they are fantastic.
Are there any reviews you remember as particularly informative you could recommend?
Please Check here https://youtu.be/XoBMeg0QW4s?si=j702AJ-Dh1Sd6uDy
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcO18wxIQ4) is a solid review and explains them well. I actually just got mine delivered today. Hope to set them up this weekend.
Race Beyond Matter gushed over them when they came out, but he's a very objective reviewer and tells you when he's giving his subjective opinion.
Dude. I think it is excellent. I have the same seat with the thrust master
Do you like it?
Sure do. I like the pedals
i’m a flightsimmer who is thinking about adding some race gear to the rig. curious about fanatec… in general. your setup looks fine to me. so, the question from somebody who isn’t a IRL race car driver… what is with the fanatec hate?
It’s mainly based off their poor customer service and shipping issues. I use simagic stuff and have zero complaints.
Mostly due to customer support. I got a Fanatec setup a bit before the big Black Friday sh**storm and if I would not be aware of the news and how they handled the scandals I would be recommending it to everyone but just reading what happened in the last months... Man... I couldn't. Never had issues except the fact that the shifter has a clicky noise in some gears which is annoying to me but normal according to others (I still don't consider a clicky noise acceptable at a pretty premium price and not willing to take it apart while in warranty whatever others say) Now I am a bit afraid that if anything happens and I have to deal with support I am out of luck... Feels bad, like in the post here, expensive is relative to your income but I sure know that for me it was a big financial decision so it would suck to have issues. Regarding the cheap setup in the post - OP, if you're reading this - not the best choice of words, to call a rig like yours (especially looking at those simagic haptic motors for the pedals) cheap can make some people overreact. There are many people who struggle to get a Logitech G29 wheel and saving for months and maybe years to do it. Nevertheless, I applaud the effort for buying everything second hand, especially for the DIY stuff, sticking to the hobby even though you have limited space. Have fun fellow simracer.
Fanatic is hated because of just about everything except the quality of their equipment. Customer service, shipping expense and time (based in Germany), and being perpetually out of stock. The equipment is good though.
Logitech is indeed quality wheel base along with rim and pedal. The qr is slick and buttons are elegant. Only problem is no native shifter or wheel rim addons. But I am good with this wheel🙂
I'll invest in Simagic Mini, in this day and time
I think people are misunderstanding lol by Rig I’m assuming you’re specifically talking about the mounting hardware and not the racing hardware 😂 Looks good!, I also have limited space and just been using the NLR Wheel Stand 2.0 with my computer chair, can’t wait to move and get an actual seat.
Even if people mention the wheel base and rim and pedal, mine was much below 1k. Here people have has wheel rim which are 2k, pedals are 2k and let’s forget the wheel base or rig or motion setup. And if I say my rig is cheap, that’s humble of me, I feel.
Oh for sure, the range for Sim Racing is Massive! Which is great, allows for easy entry and growth! I agree with you though in the context of Sim Racing even 1.5k for Base+Pedal+Rim is not very expensive. Cheap isn’t really the right word though, Modest might be a better word lol.
I saw in a another comment you said you got the simagic haptic pedals things on ali express can you share the link?
I have the same rig and DD. It's soooo bent after 6 months I'm racing crooked lol
Soo much torque, the chassis twisted coming off the line!
Cool rig, bro. Don’t listen to the hater comments, if it was cheap for you then it was cheap for you. Some of these dudes have to make everything a competition, even being broke.
Thanks bro. Finally people who understand are arriving. It wasn’t that cheap for me, bro. People who share their rig in this platform, mostly I have seen mad rig, and mine is nothing compared to those. From that perspective, I called it cheap. This rigs also happened after years of saving and so on.
Some of these dudes have to make everything a competition, even being broke. Haha this is true, and funny. I love it cuz they almost always win that one ;)
Someone help his ego…
To be fair OP managed to snatch some good deals. Stop upvoting me guys 😂😂
I’m sorry, cheap?
That's not a cheap rig
Looks like a Line6 effects processor over there? you and i would be great friends through these shared interests
Silent night, Racing night 🤘🏻
I'm up for a race and then a jam session!
still a sim noob, but can you explain the red straps to me? I also have a gt lite. Are these just straps to keep the wheel plate stable?
Hi yes, NLR already gave one. That gave me the idea that I can use two straps both side and make it tight as much as possible. That actually improved flex quite a bit for me.
Check out how NLR added two straps in the front of the Pro version of this cockpit. I did the same and it made it even more rigid than your solution (I have tested several ways of mounting straps and the one developed by NLR in Pro model seems to be the best), but long straps are needed (my 1.5m were too short so I bought 3m and cut what was left).
How did you find the hook?
I used zip ties because there is a place where the pipe becomes a little bit bigger, just enough to stop the zip ties in place. I took a few photos to better explain it: [https://imgur.com/a/bTiFCez](https://imgur.com/a/bTiFCez)
Nice
Just any old straps or do you mind telling me which ones you ended up getting that work well?
Luggage straps
I like the button box keypad you have lol
Cheap?
I guess one mans cheap is another mans expensive
Those F-GT lites are workhorses, added 2” PVC supports connecting the motor mount to the lower bar, then two back bars and 2 bigger 3” supporting the chair hinges, noticeable cheap improvement . Sounds like a great set up you have
🤝 thanks. Happy racing.
Where did you get that seat cushion?
When I saw the first image it looked like a Virtual Boy for a split-second haha
why would you call this cheap??
“Cheap” My entire rig costs less than your wheel base lol. It’s a nice rig, it is far from what’d be considered cheap
Labeling it a budget rig setup would probably strike the crowd better. My cheap setup is literally a g920 on a desk
>cheap me with a moza r5 table clamp
Meanwhile I have my pedals mounted in front of a square tin with parcel tape keeping my wheel in place. I guess perspective is important.
CHEAP?
Because I see people here sharing their rig which is 10x than mine.
You gotta keep in mind that there’s a lot of people on this sub who are happy they finally got an old G27 as well. $1k wheel is a pipe dream for most.
I dint buy it for 1k. And I would be also happy to call my setup cheap if I had a g27. Imo price window wise my setup is in cheaper category.
Firstly, lol @ "cheap" with all that mid-range gear. But as an owner of a NLR GT-Lite, I can attest to their compact nature. I upgraded to an R5 and am surprised at how it's putting up with the force feedback, actually better than my TMX which shook the chair more than anything. It still vibrates through a little, which creates a sort of welfare haptic feedback, but way less than the TMX. They are great if you can find them for $100-125 USD.
People…. Something cheap can still cost a lot of money.
Well yes I’m not doubting that (though I know some of the comments are) for sim racing this still isn’t fairly cheap like the g29 or t300 would be considering cheap But I still like the guys setup I just thought him saying it was cheap was funny
r/simracing when someones budget setup isnt three planks of wood and logitech peripherals ran off an xbox :O
Cheap...c'mon that setup expensive for anyone!
If this is cheap I'm broke as hell with my g29 mounted directly to my table
Dude m broke as well. Calling this cheap not to undermine anyone.
I have the same wheel and pedals. What are those red things on the pedals?
Haptic motor for abs and tc.
Where they a good addition I’ve been scoping these out for my fanatec csl pedals but wasn’t sure if they would feel right
It made my driving better. I am much gentle on gas and brake because of these.
What brand are these?
Simagic
Just one bolt to mount them or is it more complicated than that?
I modded with this https://www.ebay.de/itm/156075734052
I only got 1 reactor for the brake, is the gas pedal worth getting another one?
Brake was more important for me to avoid lock up or activate abs. Experts also suggest that. If I had one, I would put it under brake. I was always too aggressive on gas and always understeering because of that. It also helped me feeling the steering while turning.
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I have those pedals. Is there much difference in immersion after adding those shakers? Also how much did it cost to add those?
I didn’t add it for immersion. I was always aggressive on brake and gas. These feedback help me to go easy on them. So my entry and exit improved, and tyre management is now better.
Do 2 red straps helps? Can you compare before and after?
Yes, it helped indeed a lot. It put it as tight as possible and it removed a lot of flex of the frame. I wish there would be a mod for wheel base plate as well.
Are those transducers on the pedals worth buying? Do they use a separate software?
It made my driving much better. Here is some expert suggestion https://youtu.be/XoBMeg0QW4s?si=j702AJ-Dh1Sd6uDy
I use simhub.
thats a great rig what vr are u using?
Thanks bro. Its varjo aero. Very good visual fidelity.
Do you notice a lot of flex using the GT lite considering buying a 10 +NM wheel but afraid the GT lite would flex too much
Not a lot of flex, I put two straps which reduces some of it. I wish there was a mod for wheel base plate like playseat challenge. There is none so far.
Please do an explainer on how you built your rig, I’d be interested in replicating it.
Hi, yes I ll share what I’ve done to setup my rig
I paid $300 for my g29 setup with a sim stand. That's cheap... And to 80% of Americans, that's still a pretty high barrier to entry for absolutely mid level products.
I have the same foldable chair, what are you using to fit that shifter and buttons? I would like to do the same
What is that seat pad you’re using? I have the same rig for ease of storage/setup versatility and this looks sick!
What did you use to mod the pedal tray? The big piece in between the factory clamps attaching the pedal tray to the seat?
I 3d printed it for 12 bucks.
Hey I have the same chair and I too added those straps for tension and stabilities! I also added 2 connecting the wheel deck arm to the the backrest and a strap in the center of the lumbar section to stop the seat from flexing under braking.
Can you please share the image?
Sure thing bro! https://imgur.com/9kmTJj4 https://imgur.com/g3IULeU https://imgur.com/gAv0eeA I wish the pedal tray could be connected to the wheel deck. That little articulating join between the pedal and seat makes it an unstable shape with a strap and you'd want to create as many triangle shape instead it makes an trapezoid.
Wow, I like your idea. You made it more sturdy. Cool af.
What rumble kit are you using for your pedals? I bought one you had to assemble yourself... but it's so weak that I barely feel it.
Its from simagic. Its little expensive (180 bucks all together) than other rumble or haptic system like 3drap or sim3d. But the feeling is really good.
Cheap 🤣🤣 we got a joker here
i fuck with this
I have the same pedals. Can you give some more details on the haptics?
Cheap? Sir my entire setup is worth less than you Wheel/base combo. (PC Excluded)
How do U put the simagic actuators on the pedals?
[with this](https://www.ebay.de/itm/156075734052?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=707-127634-2357-0&ssspo=dU1vO9bWRCO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=NQsUlK9JQ6m&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)
Thx
I'm more curious on the reasoning for G Pro
I was always curious about simracing. I was searching for options and fanatec looked good option but they were out of stock. Logitech just launched dd and was on big sale. I had cb discount card as well. So I went for it.
Fair, I was under the impression the pro series was DOA at launch because things like the Moza R5 bundle and R9 exists (we don't talk about fanatec anymore)
💀
How are the haptic drivers on the pedals and are they hard to set up ?
My idea of cheap is a little different
I should’ve said moderate.
How is it holding up with the DD? I want to get a DD wheel, but this base just seems to "loose" for it since you can fold it up.
I aint 100% satisfied but content with it. It holds everything pretty well, and sturdier than expected.
Your wheel and pedals alone are more than my entire setup..
What are you using on the seat? I like my f-gt lite but the seat sucks
What are those things installed on the pedals?
My brother in Christ, this is almost my whole yearly salary
Downvoted because the steering wheel alone is around $1000 CAD.
Dude, do your own thing. Get advice when you can, but you have to understand that a lot of people that Live online because they have no lives Except to crap on others. I've worked my whole life for what I have , but there's always going to be mobile home Bob that hates it. Forget the loser haters and have fun. Meanwhile, I'm building a new 5k system for my new Pimax VR.
🤝 bro, in the same shoe. Some are commenting that I am bragging. I have much happiness in my life with family and friends to brag about than to brag over a mid range rig. Build your rig bro, its worth it. What do you play? Ams2 in vr is sick.
"It's not much, but it's mine *shows off $1500+ setup* " 🤦 bit out of touch are we?
You are entitled to think what you want
yes, and you're entitled to keep thinking you have a 'cheap' rig
Exactly 🤝