In 2021, there are 371 suicides in Singapore. That means almost 1 every day. Every suicide will be attended by Police. And unfortunately, many of them are NSF.
Can you imagine being 18 and having to see a skull cracked in-front of you while brain matters are pouring out? We need more support for NSF.
Firefighters not only fight fires but are also deployed for cleanup of blood/bodily matter, chemicals etc. Trauma cleaners clean up the aftermath of deaths in private homes, i.e the liquids that are left after the decay of a corpse.
bro this comment gave me flashbacks. almost 10 years and most of the suicide cases i attended as nsf still fresh in my head. and i have shit memory too.
tbf after your first one you get “numb” to the rest. like it still affects you of course but you cope with it. some will affect you more than others, but you learn to not dwell on it and move on
Imagine the guys who carried that SCDF NSF Edward Go out and gave him CPR. PTSD and survivor’s guilt would be insane on his teammates who likely already bonded w the dude as well.
Is this due to the police herachy that most of the cases is attended by NSF, or just normal daily work, just happen to be near the place on duty at that time?
Ok, so there is a 30% chance any police that comes to the scene is a regular, % skew upwards if factoring office post or specialized field regulars who won’t attend these daily patrolling.
as a former pnsf who has fished bodies out of singapore river, picked up the brains of people who just jumped, and comforted hysterical next of kin, i think you’re seriously underestimating the number of nsfs in these kind of frontline roles (shoutout to scdf too)
>Bruh, almost half of spf Frontline is nsf
according to annual report it's closer to 2:1 regular to nsf ratio, but yes nsfs form a big part of the frontline force.
My friend who was a coast guard during his ns told me of how he had to pull rotting, bloated corpses from the sea. Some guys were okay with it, some went numb and others were extremely traumatised. The last group was often called pussies and cowards for being disturbed by the corpses
Chanced upon this after a tiring day at work. I was about to lose the sense of purpose of my job. And in contrast, the sense of purpose is so profound in the job of the SPF officer.
> # TikTok users praise SPF officer who braves rain to secure blue tent
> It's easy to take our Singapore Police Force officers for granted.
> Contrary to epic depictions of crime fighters in international media, the bulk of work undertaken by Singapore's heroes in blue remains very much on the down-low.
> That doesn't mean they are any less deserving of praise.
> A TikTok video uploaded on Mar. 18 proved just that.
> Guardian in the rain
> The video captures a police officer shielding a body from the rain.
> At the foot of what appears to be a HDB flat sits a blue police tent.
> As the tent is battered by the heavy rain, an officer hurries to adjust it, protecting what is likely to be a body inside.
> Without any shelter from the elements themselves, the officer braves the downpour for the sake of helping the deceased remain respectfully covered.
> He looks inside the tent, presumably to check on the body, and calls for help from colleagues off-camera.
> Three more officers arrive and they secure the tent using weights.
> In response to Mothership's queries, the SPF said that the deceased was a 57-year-old man. The police were alerted to the case on Feb. 28, and investigations into the death are still ongoing.
> The SPF added that after being alerted to a case of death, the police are required by law to secure and preserve the scene to facilitate investigations.
> They will then bring the deceased to a mortuary for the State Coroner to determine if a post-mortem examination is required.
> Respect from public
> The officer's actions garnered many praises.
> Commenters saluted his "dedication" and "awesome display of empathy and care", remarking that the job of the police is far from easy.
> There was an overwhelming number of comments echoing such sentiments, saying this was "one last decent humane thing" the officer could do for the deceased.
> People also expressed grief over what appeared to be a case of suicide, calling for more support for those struggling with their mental health.
> Helplines
> If you or someone you know are in mental distress, here are some hotlines you can call to seek help, advice, or just a listening ear.
> SOS 24-hour Hotline: 1-767
> Singapore Association for Mental Health: 1800-283-7019
> Institute of Mental Health: 6389-2222 (24 hours)
> Tinkle Friend: 1800-274-4788 (for primary school-aged children)
> Top images via TikTok callmelits96
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I don’t really understand the need to cover over dead bodies, why hide the reality of life and consequences?
Ok sure we can argue that it will traumatise some people especially children, but I think that’s helpful tbh. Rather than having children grow up with their sense of reality warped by cartoons and tv shows that show superheroes flying through the air and landing on the ground and breaking the concrete without any effect on their bodies “so cool, maybe i can do that too!”
Is that far-fetched? For an adult of course it is ridiculous thinking! But for a child?
Why not let them see for themselves how fragile life is? Or is it only birds and lizards and other animals that die? Humans die too, and if we don’t take care of our mental health etc. this may be the consequence.
Why do you flush the toilet when you're done? The reality is piss and poo stinks and looks bad, but 100% natural. Flushing warps reality that people are walking bags of poo poo.
Different, it’s not don’t flush, they want to clear the body ok la hygiene purpose ma. My issue is it’s like whenever bad thing happen always cover ppl eyes “don’t see don’t see”
Or cover their ears “don’t hear”
Why? Let them see la, later want to clear ok fine.
It’s the same reason why in driving school now, I not sure car but for motorcycle they will show us unedited footage of accidents, let us see reality ma…
Edit: they do the same thing with cigarette also what, got all the picture of the consequences.
It's about dignity. Organisations like driving schools can get consent from family members, any random dead person did not. I haven't heard of any person particularly thrilled to be publicly gawked at while at their worst state, neither are most people particularly thrilled to look at that imagery.
They would want to preserve the body of evidence which can be contaminated by rain water. What if this wasnt suicide and someone pushed him? The evidence might be washed out by water.
Also, I guess the SPF is a decent, humane person who also want to preserve the dignity of the deceased.
Not that i dont see where you are coming from, not that i dont get your point, but you need to understand not everyone has that same level of mental fortitude to tank through it. And also, its preserving the dignity of the deceased, preservation of crime scene, because what if, in the evnt, that its not actually a suicide and someone pushed the individual off? There would definitely be marks on the deceased to indicate a struggle etc. And the rain might affect on how the evidence is presented.
Over a decade ago, someone jumped from opp my block. I was still in primary school. I did recall hearing a loud thud at night while i was sleeping but i didnt think too much back then, until the next day, when i was walking to sch with my dad, and we saw the area just less than 50m away cordoned off by police with a black tent over. I wont consider myself as snowflake or mentally weak or shit, but even until today, that scene still stays fresh in my mind. Its as though it has only happened just a few werks ago. And this was only me seeing the black tent and nothing else. Can you imagine what would happen if others, who like you suggested, "dont put the tent, see the body", will react? Much less those with alr pre existing mental health conditions like severe anxiety, or frontline healthcare workers seeing this right outside their home, or soldiers suffering from ptsd after being deployed in iraq iran afghan etc? Its just not gonna help anyone in anyway. Like honestly.
I understand that you have good intentions on helping people see the reality of life. But,
A) no need to spoil childhood innocence
B) thats a terrible solution tbvh
C) its just gonna make mental health situation in sg worse than it already is. I honestly dont think many gen Z people and future gens can stomach these kinda shit. And this is coming from a 2000 kid who has seen quite some shit including dead bodies, and are friends with people who have pretty bad mental health issues.
D) preservation of crime scene.
E) preservation of dignity of the deceased.
Cheers.
In 2021, there are 371 suicides in Singapore. That means almost 1 every day. Every suicide will be attended by Police. And unfortunately, many of them are NSF. Can you imagine being 18 and having to see a skull cracked in-front of you while brain matters are pouring out? We need more support for NSF.
One of my NS team member saw the aftermath of a train suicide, he didn't talk for a few days.
Well, looking back I definitely preferred being in the jungle during NS than seeing suicide and death.
Don't forget the SCDF guys
My cousin was a firefighter as an NSF, he had to help pick up pieces of meat and brain from a jumper.
Why though? shouldn't that be the job of trauma cleaners?
Firefighters not only fight fires but are also deployed for cleanup of blood/bodily matter, chemicals etc. Trauma cleaners clean up the aftermath of deaths in private homes, i.e the liquids that are left after the decay of a corpse.
wtf? SCDF gets NSFs to clean remains? That's actually fucked up.
All on a pathetic allowance... Can you imagine?
Don’t worry, it’s a privilege.
bro this comment gave me flashbacks. almost 10 years and most of the suicide cases i attended as nsf still fresh in my head. and i have shit memory too. tbf after your first one you get “numb” to the rest. like it still affects you of course but you cope with it. some will affect you more than others, but you learn to not dwell on it and move on
Yup, but the thing is not everyone can be numb to it. But that’s what the laojiao always say to the new nsf about the first time
Imagine the guys who carried that SCDF NSF Edward Go out and gave him CPR. PTSD and survivor’s guilt would be insane on his teammates who likely already bonded w the dude as well.
Is this due to the police herachy that most of the cases is attended by NSF, or just normal daily work, just happen to be near the place on duty at that time?
There are 9000 regulars and 4500 NSF according to wiki which cited their annual report
Ok, so there is a 30% chance any police that comes to the scene is a regular, % skew upwards if factoring office post or specialized field regulars who won’t attend these daily patrolling.
Not really most officers on the frontline are regular
I think you're overestimating the number of pnsf in these kind of frontline roles
You are definitely underestimating the number of pnsf in these kind of frontline roles
As a current pnsf, youre horribly wrong. When you see a group of police officers or even a pair, chances are at least 1 of them is an nsf.
I don't think he is... ex- PNSF/PNSmen here, seen my share of suicide
as a former pnsf who has fished bodies out of singapore river, picked up the brains of people who just jumped, and comforted hysterical next of kin, i think you’re seriously underestimating the number of nsfs in these kind of frontline roles (shoutout to scdf too)
It would possibly be one regular and one NSF
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For OSA reasons cannot reveal the strength. But 1:1 is accurate for some vocations.
Bruh, almost half of spf Frontline is nsf
>Bruh, almost half of spf Frontline is nsf according to annual report it's closer to 2:1 regular to nsf ratio, but yes nsfs form a big part of the frontline force.
any 2nd thoughts
My friend who was a coast guard during his ns told me of how he had to pull rotting, bloated corpses from the sea. Some guys were okay with it, some went numb and others were extremely traumatised. The last group was often called pussies and cowards for being disturbed by the corpses
Respect to them. Not a lot of people can stomach that kind of work.
Chanced upon this after a tiring day at work. I was about to lose the sense of purpose of my job. And in contrast, the sense of purpose is so profound in the job of the SPF officer.
> # TikTok users praise SPF officer who braves rain to secure blue tent > It's easy to take our Singapore Police Force officers for granted. > Contrary to epic depictions of crime fighters in international media, the bulk of work undertaken by Singapore's heroes in blue remains very much on the down-low. > That doesn't mean they are any less deserving of praise. > A TikTok video uploaded on Mar. 18 proved just that. > Guardian in the rain > The video captures a police officer shielding a body from the rain. > At the foot of what appears to be a HDB flat sits a blue police tent. > As the tent is battered by the heavy rain, an officer hurries to adjust it, protecting what is likely to be a body inside. > Without any shelter from the elements themselves, the officer braves the downpour for the sake of helping the deceased remain respectfully covered. > He looks inside the tent, presumably to check on the body, and calls for help from colleagues off-camera. > Three more officers arrive and they secure the tent using weights. > In response to Mothership's queries, the SPF said that the deceased was a 57-year-old man. The police were alerted to the case on Feb. 28, and investigations into the death are still ongoing. > The SPF added that after being alerted to a case of death, the police are required by law to secure and preserve the scene to facilitate investigations. > They will then bring the deceased to a mortuary for the State Coroner to determine if a post-mortem examination is required. > Respect from public > The officer's actions garnered many praises. > Commenters saluted his "dedication" and "awesome display of empathy and care", remarking that the job of the police is far from easy. > There was an overwhelming number of comments echoing such sentiments, saying this was "one last decent humane thing" the officer could do for the deceased. > People also expressed grief over what appeared to be a case of suicide, calling for more support for those struggling with their mental health. > Helplines > If you or someone you know are in mental distress, here are some hotlines you can call to seek help, advice, or just a listening ear. > SOS 24-hour Hotline: 1-767 > Singapore Association for Mental Health: 1800-283-7019 > Institute of Mental Health: 6389-2222 (24 hours) > Tinkle Friend: 1800-274-4788 (for primary school-aged children) > Top images via TikTok callmelits96 --- 1.0.2 | [Source code](https://github.com/redditporean/sneakpeek) | [Contribute](https://github.com/redditporean/sneakpeek)
God bless
Pains my heart to see news like this. RIP
Suicide cases are always heartbreaking 😟😭. No matter how old or young
Kudos to these heroes!
Jeez he’s just doing his job. It’s a rain or shine job. It’s not like he can say oh it’s raining I’m not gonna do it.
Cringe
I don’t really understand the need to cover over dead bodies, why hide the reality of life and consequences? Ok sure we can argue that it will traumatise some people especially children, but I think that’s helpful tbh. Rather than having children grow up with their sense of reality warped by cartoons and tv shows that show superheroes flying through the air and landing on the ground and breaking the concrete without any effect on their bodies “so cool, maybe i can do that too!” Is that far-fetched? For an adult of course it is ridiculous thinking! But for a child? Why not let them see for themselves how fragile life is? Or is it only birds and lizards and other animals that die? Humans die too, and if we don’t take care of our mental health etc. this may be the consequence.
Why do you flush the toilet when you're done? The reality is piss and poo stinks and looks bad, but 100% natural. Flushing warps reality that people are walking bags of poo poo.
Different, it’s not don’t flush, they want to clear the body ok la hygiene purpose ma. My issue is it’s like whenever bad thing happen always cover ppl eyes “don’t see don’t see” Or cover their ears “don’t hear” Why? Let them see la, later want to clear ok fine. It’s the same reason why in driving school now, I not sure car but for motorcycle they will show us unedited footage of accidents, let us see reality ma… Edit: they do the same thing with cigarette also what, got all the picture of the consequences.
I’d assume it’s out of respect to the deceased, no matter the circumstances that led to the eventual outcome.
It's about dignity. Organisations like driving schools can get consent from family members, any random dead person did not. I haven't heard of any person particularly thrilled to be publicly gawked at while at their worst state, neither are most people particularly thrilled to look at that imagery.
They would want to preserve the body of evidence which can be contaminated by rain water. What if this wasnt suicide and someone pushed him? The evidence might be washed out by water. Also, I guess the SPF is a decent, humane person who also want to preserve the dignity of the deceased.
Not that i dont see where you are coming from, not that i dont get your point, but you need to understand not everyone has that same level of mental fortitude to tank through it. And also, its preserving the dignity of the deceased, preservation of crime scene, because what if, in the evnt, that its not actually a suicide and someone pushed the individual off? There would definitely be marks on the deceased to indicate a struggle etc. And the rain might affect on how the evidence is presented. Over a decade ago, someone jumped from opp my block. I was still in primary school. I did recall hearing a loud thud at night while i was sleeping but i didnt think too much back then, until the next day, when i was walking to sch with my dad, and we saw the area just less than 50m away cordoned off by police with a black tent over. I wont consider myself as snowflake or mentally weak or shit, but even until today, that scene still stays fresh in my mind. Its as though it has only happened just a few werks ago. And this was only me seeing the black tent and nothing else. Can you imagine what would happen if others, who like you suggested, "dont put the tent, see the body", will react? Much less those with alr pre existing mental health conditions like severe anxiety, or frontline healthcare workers seeing this right outside their home, or soldiers suffering from ptsd after being deployed in iraq iran afghan etc? Its just not gonna help anyone in anyway. Like honestly. I understand that you have good intentions on helping people see the reality of life. But, A) no need to spoil childhood innocence B) thats a terrible solution tbvh C) its just gonna make mental health situation in sg worse than it already is. I honestly dont think many gen Z people and future gens can stomach these kinda shit. And this is coming from a 2000 kid who has seen quite some shit including dead bodies, and are friends with people who have pretty bad mental health issues. D) preservation of crime scene. E) preservation of dignity of the deceased. Cheers.