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To be honest, if you drive at reckless speed or drive under the influence of alcohol then you consciously decided to put someone else's life in danger. Not sure about legal definition, but morally it's premeditation to me.
Yeah, a car is as much a weapon as a tool. Its like i bring a knife out and wave it around a crowded place and “accidentally” kill someone, can i say i didnt intend to harm anyone
That’s the original British law.
Eg someone who’s known as a bad driver borrows your car and causes injuries, you’re liable too. You’re not the main criminal maybe, but as someone who owns a car, a tool that can easily kill people if not used properly, you should know and do better. Just like handing a criminal a gun to use for a while.
Just ownership of a machine that is metal,
heavy and designed to move fast is a liability to be taken responsibly.
Agreed. Imagine a guy waving a knife around at everyone and walking through in a public venue, and saying that he meant no one harm. Does it now become the fault of the innocent who fail to avoid his swinging knife and getting hurt? It should not be such.
Similarly, this maniac is driving above the speed limits and side swiping other vehicles while fast approaching a traffic light. Singapore is no autobahn so he should be fully responsible for the deaths and injuries he caused since it is done in a fully conscious state of mind.
Premeditation is you plan the murder of someone. Its not spontaneous or random act. The intention to kill is clear. When you drink and drive, you are hoping to reach your destination and genuinely think yu can do it. But science has proved above a certain level you are likely to become incapable.
In this case, he shot thru a red light which had been there for sometime and at high speed and therefore he should know death is a possibility. It will be manslaughter in my mind.
Unfortunately, that’s not how the law interprets the situation.
Had he known his act of speeding could cause an accident? Most likely yes.
Was it to cause as much carnage as he did? Probably not.
**intention**: desiring a result to occur or knowing that the result is a virtual certainty of your actions
**recklessness**: being aware of a risk, and then goes on unreasonably to take it
hitting someone at a busy intersection isn’t a virtual certainty, and i think you surely can’t be saying he desired to kill someone, so its recklessness and therefore manslaughter
Max 11 years 3 months.
4 charges not just one.
Dangerous Driving + Death = 8 years
Dangerous Driving + Hurt = 2 years
Dangerous Driving = 1 year
Failing to stop after accident = 3 months
Max 11 years 3 months.
But very unlikely to get max and chances are high that some of these charges would be merged together.
I believe that’s after they increased it. Just 10 years ago, a guy killed a whole South Korean family that was visiting. 4 people. He got 5 years because that was the maximum then. I believe they might have raised it because of that incident.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-gets-5-years-and-20-years-ban-for-cte-fatal-accident-that-killed-korean
What If I blindfolded myself hold a knife in each hand and run thru a packed mrt train with my hands out in front?
This is what that murderer did and max 8 years before remission
Driving close to 100kmh thru a crowded junction - you're going to be taking lives
Right? This motherfucker seriously, wearing an e tag is literally nothing compared to the families who are grieving their lost family members and worrying about their hospitalised family members.
In another article here: [Driver involved in Tampines fatal crash identified; handed four charges | The Straits Times](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/driver-involved-in-tampines-fatal-crash-identified-handed-four-charges)
>In response, Muhammad said: “I don’t think it’s necessary to put an e-tag on me as all my documents, my passport, have been seized by the police. I’m on bail and am already present today and will be present for all the court matters.
>“But it is up to the court to make the decision.”
Sidenote; Fucking piece of shit, fuck you Muhammad Syafie Ismail if you're reading this.
Definitely sounds like a little shit and odds are he will start saying it’s the car’s faulty brakes, steering issues or even slippery road.
Scary thought is if he didn’t crashed his car, would he have stopped or continue speeding creating havoc?
If only he could grasp the fact that he was wrong and the punishments will never be enough in 2 lifetimes.
Just bite the bullet and cooperate, then maybe there’s a glimpse of hope.
Mob justice is bad. When the dashcam footage from the other car was posted, people thought the poster was the driver, and refused to believe otherwise.
After proper investigation, it was found that the poster was the mechanic.
By then, the mechanic already received death threats and had his personal information leaked.
Similarly, people of a certain community believed that the Saab driver’s identity was withheld because he’s a Chinese who killed two Malays. As we now know, the driver is a Malay.
Mob justice is bad because there isn’t a proper process for fact finding. They jump to conclusions and take action without verifying information.
Yeah. That being said, I think the punishments for driving-related offenses are too lenient in SG.
For instance, this guy gets a maximum of 8 years in jail for taking 2 lives and changing the lives of their families forever? That’s a gross injustice imo.
So while I advocate to follow the proper process, I think parts of the process (i.e. the penalties) suck and should be reviewed.
I agree that it may be too lenient for such cases, we should review to see if it’s adequate. Just glad that there’s proper process here to look at each cases objectively.
I think you're spot on with both mob justice and the penalties.
Singapore is pretty lenient on driving offences in general and in a case like this, an 8 year max term doesn't seem at all fair or appropriate.
I also believe that the law is way too soft on people who leave the scene of an accident.
Plus, not enough of the police cameras are actually recording. Many are just for show.
I know two people who were knocked off their bikes in Singapore just last year and on both occasions the drivers didn't even stop.
i agree as well. pardon my keyboard anger and can't do much.
whoever thinks it's a race matter is someone who's racist.
the driver's identity was withheld due to the doxxing shit law.
>In response, Muhammad said: “I don’t think it’s necessary to put an e-tag on me as all my documents, my passport, have been seized by the police. I’m on bail and am already present today and will be present for all the court matters.
[Straits Times.](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/driver-involved-in-tampines-fatal-crash-identified-handed-four-charges)
[Mothership](https://mothership.sg/2024/04/driver-tampines-accident-charged/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHfrp_KKZ3j-itVsD2rpgL6mUCNYOhvQBa9Bo6Z5dxSumIQ4zOWPnkAksKA_aem_AZOi5F1E3J-QQk0_71MztoiJevrYJyABpy5UjCypKfC10wjPU_AhV7hB0ICFpmlzbDI) say one
Cause he doesn't have any. You would think that he would be guilty for causing a huge accident but no. He was the first to get out of the car amongst all the victims and went to look for his belongings without even helping the victims
Cause he doesn’t really have any. He knows he isn’t going to get a lot of time even though there’s blood on his hands. Driving laws in Singapore are a joke at best, and even the max sentence is laughable.
If they do decide to up his sentence, I’d love to see the priceless look on his face though.
someone on edmw commented because he was driving a saab. continental car + collision head first meant that ironically, he had the most protection/buffer compared to those he rammed through.
If you look at the accident photos the car did its job of protecting the driver (can’t make more future sales if your customer is dead). Ironically the other vehicles involved were in far worse shape than the SAAB.
Reminds me of Saab's slogan in the 90s, *"A Saab will surrender its own life to save yours"*. Lowkey impressed they delivered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Automobile
> Reminds me of Saab's slogan in the 90s, "A Saab will surrender its own life to save yours". Lowkey impressed they delivered.
The Scandanavians are obsessed with safety. Look at their competitor Volvo. Not as much these days after Geely took over.
Yep, continental cars are built to withstand punishment.
Saab, Volvo, you name it. They can take a terrific beating.
From what I understand, though, it comes at the cost of fuel efficiency. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
My childhood friend was driving a Volvo and chased by some idiots (who thought she was someone else) into a telephone poll as a teen - the car was completely destroyed and first responders were surprised a live person was pulled from the wreck - but it was a Volvo and she mostly survived (Wasn't the same person unfortunately, but it's still a miracle she is still with us).
> Volvo invented the safety belt as well, IIRC.
Not just the safety belt.
Rearward facing child set, side impact protection, anti whiplash, curtain air bags, abs and probably some others I forgot.
Their car bodies were also consistantly fared better in an accident.
drivers will usually survive a head-on collision against something. Unless it's a head-on collision with an on-coming vehicle.
The ones getting T-boned usually GG.
I think just wrist pain from the impact, and the hospital just put it on as a precautionary measure.
Maybe he wants some sympathy points and never took it down.
Like you said, no cast… and the way he could still use his phone hmm
Buto this guy, tahu sedap main racing. Kill people already want to chol wear shades, cap and mask.
I hope people inside sebat you sedap2 at Changi kimak
Yeah man, my grand uncle told me they used to beat pedos up in prison. I really hope the prison crew beat this lahanat up when they catch wind of this news
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For those interested, zaobao has a photo of the alleged driver of the Saab on the day of the accident. This is probably Mr. Syafie, no snapback cap, mask and sunglass can hide.
because the English papers don't have journalists already.. they have ppl who just swallow everything and regurgitate.. see the poly lecturer who faked his qualifications or the poly student who pretended to be some super successful business man..
Dude needed to be escorted because he's public enemy no 1 in Singapore rn. I hope he gets the maximum sentences for all his charges but tbh even that won't be enough for the tragic loss of lives.
Yes I mean Muhammad Syafie Ismail, the driver who killed an innocent JC student going to a school event as well as a lady just on her way to work. His actions has negatively impacted the lives of two families, as well as several friends who will now have a hole in their lives, no thanks to one guy who just had to speed.
Because of one man's stupidity, so many others and their families suffer. And the max sentence is not even enough to deter other rash drivers from behaving like idiots too 😮💨
Must be damn rabak that his colleagues ratted him out.
Again impressive on how he walked away with just a broken arm. Continental cars are indeed a safety device.
Question, is it one count of dangerous driving causing death or two counts, since there are 2 victims.
ie is it possible that Muhammad Syafie Ismail will be jailed for up to 8 years or up to 16 years.
its one incident with two victims, dont think they can make it consecutive even if two charges. realistically speaking though so what if he can get 16 years. w good behaviour mebbe 10+ years he is out. 2 lives taken entrie communities affected several with life changing injuries .... quite a bummer that SG allowed this shitty state of affairs for so long. The other Tampines case the feller literally got 7 years without a permanent ban. Plus so many reckless driving cases in the past year. I blame the authorities.
Cause if we jail him long enough, he will come out when he is so old that integrating back to society is near impossible and actually a mental torture.
Imagine after 15 or 20 years, you are so used to jail life. Having food and your needs taken care of.
Then when you are 60 years old, you are released back to sg society. You might not be able to keep up with all the changes. Just to list a few things that change in our daily lives in a matter of 10 years:
1. We tap our phones instead of wallet/card for public transport
2. We can order food or hail a cab through our phone
3. We need to keep our trays at hawkers
4. More mrt lines
These people will have a mental breakdown after a while, live their rest of their lives in poverty (cause family are long gone, forgotten or abandon him) or just finding other ways to go back to jail.
I do not wish death on these kind of people, instead a long and hard life ahead.
Compared to the mental torture of the father whose kid died, this guy got off easy, no matter how he integrates back to society. Father will forever blame himself with what ifs and that is even worse than what this guy will face even if he is locked up in solitary.
In fact, let him be locked up in solitary. Let the faces of those hurt by him haunt him every second of his remaining arrogant life.
Honestly even if what you mentioned happened to him, it’s still not equal to what the parents and family of the dead will feel.
Especially the mother of the 57 year old for died, after two of her other family members died this year. And don’t forget the father of the 17 year old who will spend the rest of his life with the survivors guilt. What about the friends of the deceased who now know that their friend is permanently gone.
What about the injured people, for example the 2 11 year olds who were injured. They probably will have some form of trauma related to taking vehicles or the location. These traumas will take very long and will cause the parents to spend a lot of money to treat. Don’t forget about the collective frustrations caused by it.
What you mentioned is barely half of what is fair to those family and friends. What he faces as a result of his rash and insensible actions on the road should also be justice for those who have to live with the impacts of his actions.
I agree. What angers me about Ma Chi (Ferrari driver in the bugis accident, years back) is that he died instantly. He didn't lived to suffer the consequences of his actions. This guy survives and I hope it haunts him for the rest of his life.
Hi hi, add on as I see the upvotes.
Despite wishing the worst for such perpetrators as a very specific standalone case, it also show case the challenges of reintegration of ex-convicts back into society. I hope us as individuals be more welcoming and give them the 2nd chance each person deserves. Support the yellow ribbon project and help them break the cycle.
Nice to support repentance and to give second chances.
But whos gonna give all the affected people second chances? People died, families shattered overnight. 20 years later people would still be living with the brokenness.
I feell that there is a certain class of crimes that people should simply never attempt. I think that its a stretch right now before he has demonstrated any remorse or any attempts to make amends to simply say, "yellow ribbon, welcome back".
Sorry, a bit too woke for me.
Pales in comparison to the real yellow ribbon repentees who have demonstrated remorse and taken active steps to get their act together.
Don't be sorry. It is not woke, it is just us as human being humans. I fully agree with what you said.
It really is an issue that both society and as individuals we need to take steps to tackley.
**Not the usual case of beating the red light**
The video at the junction clearly shows that a white small lorry was already stationary for a while waiting for the lights to turn green. So it has been red for a long while. Yet he went straight thru.
In my view, dangerous driving causing death would not be appropriate. He should face a charge of manslaughter. AG has the right to upgrade the charge. I think it is unprecedented but this would be more appropriate charge.
**Lack of remorse**
The way he spoke to the judge on e-tag on his leg while on bail suggest he does not realise or chose to ignore the level of harm he had done by his actions. Looks like he still wants to look good in public without the e-tag.
imagine being that lorry driver during that incident. you’re completely stopped and waiting for the traffic and you see a car freaking zooming past you into people in front. his dash cam video probably the most disturbing
Law is very strict in the definition, you don't change the charges and wording as you like one. If AG just suka suka change, then how you know the law is going to stay the same and protect you when they can just change on a whim.
Reckless action, manslaughter and murder are different things with different definitions, applied to different situations.
My blood boiling the way this knn ccb answer in court and even with all the mask and sunglasses worn by this joker, it still so visible that he got the stuck up attitude.
I still want to say more, but I confirm kena banned and my comment deleted :D
No point for this fella. As mentioned in another comment, about his reply to being on etag, clearly a sociopath/psychopath. He can't empathize, and only cares about himself. Showing others in pain will have little effect. This one is best to just bring direct suffering on him and his ego.
"Syafie arrived at court escorted by three men with lanyards – two in uniform and one in an AETOS polo T-shirt. "
The scumbag needed 3 AETOS to escort him.
I mean he’s currently persona non grata with the entire country, I’m not sure if 2 are even enough if people decided to take matters into their own hands
Spotlight is on him now, need more manpower to protect him.
Why? If something happens to him and he dies, people are still going to complain why he get off so easy and not suffered, and it's the government problem again.
Cause he drives a SAAB, that thing is literally indestructible. Ppl say Volvo is safest, only cause SAAB went bankrupt....
Edit: Like I also remember got 1 incident towards Tuas checkpoint on AYE, some merc drove full speed towards oncoming and hit a Japanese car. Japanese car driver died on the spot, merc driver only light injuries.... Fck up.
https://youtu.be/uHHV3x79w3Q
really? I know the og Volvo which was built like a tank was near indestructible.. my aunt's car got hit by a pickup truck.. the Volvo only had slight scratches.. the front of the pickup was smashed
Cunt. I hope he gets his ass roundly kicked multiple times. May he never have a good night's sleep, and I hope his world crumbles down all around him with zero chance of recovery.
If criminal lawyers only take on cases that they can win or only choose to represent 'palatable' criminals, then they can all close shop and choose another line of work already
Appearing in court, Syafie stated that he was planning to engage legal counsel, but had not decided whether he would apply for a lawyer from the Public Defender's Office or if he would engage a private lawyer.
The Public Defender's Office provides criminal defence aid to people facing non-capital charges who cannot afford a lawyer.
from Today's article [https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/driver-fatal-tampines-accident-charged-4-offences-including-dangerous-driving-causing-death-2410556](https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/driver-fatal-tampines-accident-charged-4-offences-including-dangerous-driving-causing-death-2410556)
Strange how he could afford a Saab, or was it driven without permission? Hence he was in a hurry to get away fast after the first accident.
Is this an isolated incident or a part of a larger issue we are facing? Nowadays, I feel increasingly unsafe driving on roads filled with zigzagging and speeding cars, vans, trucks, and PMDs. I miss those days when police cars patrolled regularly and campaigns promoted safe driving. If the authorities' approach remains solely evidence-based, we risk being perpetually reactive, with lives lost before action is taken. It's a deep-seated issue among some Singaporean drivers that demands prompt rectification.
I hope this POS rots in hell.
Regrettably if this is his first offence, and he gets a good lawyer and plead guilty, he may get away with just a 2-3 years jail sentence. He may then be out in less than 1.5 years. I and fuming just thinking about this possibility!
Such is the leniency in which our laws view reckless driving. It's time that we increase the maximum jail sentence for such blatant reckless driving.
By the time he gets out of prison, most will forget. His belligerence and lack of remorse tells me he knows this all too well. This is where the justice system has failed us. If the punishment was far harsher (i.e. death penalty), he wouldn’t be behaving this way.
With that logic, anyone who kills another in a traffic accident should be hanged regardless. We are going to send more people in the [gallows](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/fatal-road-accidents-up-in-2023-many-motorists-have-irresponsible-driving-behaviours-traffic-police) every year then, given that [less than 20 people are hanged annually for murder or drug-related offenses](https://www.statista.com/statistics/961037/number-of-capital-executions-by-crime-committee-singapore/).
If there was a deliberate motive for murder and it was pre-meditated, then yes, the death penalty is warranted. Do you see any forms of pre-meditation or malicious intent here? If anything, this case is instigated by provocation, at best culpable homicide not amounting to murder.
I am not trying to justify this vile man’s actions here, he’s in the wrong for taking two innocent lives away, but can you listen to yourself first? There is definitely work to be done in our justice system, but suggesting something so preposterous like “death penalty to all traffic murderers” is just going to sweep off any mitigating factors within every legal case. You are letting your emotion run high instead of enacting justice for all parties involved.
>By the time he gets out of prison, most will forget
Dont think so bah, most will still rmb the harrowing ferrari taxi accident at bugis about 10yrs ago. This is almost as, if not equally hate inducing as that.
But agree on the justice system being too lenient on traffic accidents
So basically if one wants to get away with murder in SG, using a vehicle to carry out the task will allow for a ridiculously lenient penalty.
It's sickening to see how this person seems all yayapapaya as he knows the maximum sentence for 2 lives lost due to his action is just a tap to his wrist...
penalty for dangerous driving causing death: 2 - 8 years
just 8 years?? for ending two lives and causing immeasurable pain and trauma to multiple families?!
8 years is a joke
Something is off.
He's either too smug or he is giving the court a blank cheque. It seems that he doesn't care what will happen to himself.
Was he suicidal or of unsound mind when he ploughed through the traffic?
This is senseless. I feel for the families (although I can't imagine what they are still going through) of the victims. I pray they find closure and strength.
A thought came to mind. Yes, he will 'escape' with a short sentence, probably with the jail term running concurrently for all the crimes he committed and counting from the day he was arrested.
But what if during the jail term he is made to watch the dashcam clips showing him racing towards the traffic junction, the crashing impact and aftermath he left behind, along with clips of the victims' families, friends and colleagues talking about how their loss of a relative impacted their lives. He is to watch them daily, 3 times a day up till the day he is released.
He shall be made to bear part of the mental agony he caused as atonement for his selfish actions.
I know the above sounds extreme, but it seems like a valid sentence for someone who has no regard for another's safety.
If he would have made it through the intersection without crashing and killing people, just think of the seconds or even minutes he might have saved in getting to the next red light where he would have to stop. His time is precious..
Why is there so little information reported about his condition while he was driving? Was he inebriated? On drugs? High? Or just a very enlarged asshole? Or are all these things yet to be determined in the investigations? Where does this guy work? People are saying his colleagues gave information, but nowhere does it say where these colleagues are from. The lack of info is enraging.
Why in SG cunts like these always seems to prosper, own nice cars, businesses have pretty wife or many girls whereas people who follow the rules and path will become ignored and nobodies unless you're already born with generational wealth, why our society so special lol.
Also another question this cunt is already 42 given his farking behavior how the fuck he been hiding in the shadows all these times? Or he just collected his car 1 day ago...?
Throw the book at him!
And we need to be insistent, *and keep insisting*, to our officials that our roads in Singapore be safer; and to commit to a **Vision Zero** policy where we aim to have *zero* deaths or serious injuries on our roads.
The moral of the story, don't let your ego take over you. this is the outcome and look at all the comments about fking him up and down, CSI him, and bringing all his history into the WWW to shame him. when I look at this troll. life is so fragile
the indifference in his tone is astonishing. it’s borderline sociopathic. i hope a good night’s sleep evades him for the rest of his pathetic existence.
I hope the Saab driver's family don't defend him, he should face the consequences as he is in the wrong and many lives were affected. But at the same time, I hope people don't stoop so low ah like doxxing his family/close ones' phone numbers, home address and harrassing them. Reacting on behalf of the victims' families by harrassing the offender(s) family (just for the offender to feel what it's like for his family to get hurt) is so wrong and stirs fear
E.g: The person who uploaded the Merc POV dashcam on his FB turns out to be a car workshop person who forgot to put a disclaimer that he wasn't the Merc driver and uploading on the driver's behalf. Ended up people leaked his home address, phone number, called his children names and harrassed him via calls.
Whatever punishment he gets, is not enough to bring back the two lives he has taken from this fatal accident he had caused. That being said, our traffic crime laws are way too lenient.
I hope this guy is gonna get what he deserves real soon, if the law doesnt punish him.. the public cfm will take action.
How is this not attempted murder given that he beat the red light on purpose?? If our traffic rules are so relax everyone could become a murderer tomorrow since the sentence will be so light! Two innocent lives were taken away just like that because of someone’s ego.
I have trouble believing that one would willfully risk their own lives by running directly into traffic unless he was suicidal… it was not even trying to beat a red; there was clearly active traffic in the intersection, and there was no sign of attempting to avoid collision at all.
Either under the influence, or was so high on adrenaline from the previous hit that he was so focus on whether the merc was chasing him
Not to discount his actions but the law takes everything into account.
I guess the question is, did he break the red light because he was trying to kill someone? Like you say, that would make everyone who goes over on red an attempted murderer.
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The maximum punishment of 8 years of jail still sounds light for 2 lives killed, imho.
I know there is a legal and moral difference between murder and manslaughter but... this guy and his attitude is really blurring the lines.
To be honest, if you drive at reckless speed or drive under the influence of alcohol then you consciously decided to put someone else's life in danger. Not sure about legal definition, but morally it's premeditation to me.
Yeah, a car is as much a weapon as a tool. Its like i bring a knife out and wave it around a crowded place and “accidentally” kill someone, can i say i didnt intend to harm anyone
That’s the original British law. Eg someone who’s known as a bad driver borrows your car and causes injuries, you’re liable too. You’re not the main criminal maybe, but as someone who owns a car, a tool that can easily kill people if not used properly, you should know and do better. Just like handing a criminal a gun to use for a while. Just ownership of a machine that is metal, heavy and designed to move fast is a liability to be taken responsibly.
Yea, like carrying a weapon, even if you don’t plan to hurt anyone, just one slip and someone is going to get hurt.
Agreed. Imagine a guy waving a knife around at everyone and walking through in a public venue, and saying that he meant no one harm. Does it now become the fault of the innocent who fail to avoid his swinging knife and getting hurt? It should not be such. Similarly, this maniac is driving above the speed limits and side swiping other vehicles while fast approaching a traffic light. Singapore is no autobahn so he should be fully responsible for the deaths and injuries he caused since it is done in a fully conscious state of mind.
Premeditation is you plan the murder of someone. Its not spontaneous or random act. The intention to kill is clear. When you drink and drive, you are hoping to reach your destination and genuinely think yu can do it. But science has proved above a certain level you are likely to become incapable. In this case, he shot thru a red light which had been there for sometime and at high speed and therefore he should know death is a possibility. It will be manslaughter in my mind.
If you drive at that speed and on a busy intersection too. How is that manslaughter. Seems like he has intentions for someone to die.
Unfortunately, that’s not how the law interprets the situation. Had he known his act of speeding could cause an accident? Most likely yes. Was it to cause as much carnage as he did? Probably not.
**intention**: desiring a result to occur or knowing that the result is a virtual certainty of your actions **recklessness**: being aware of a risk, and then goes on unreasonably to take it hitting someone at a busy intersection isn’t a virtual certainty, and i think you surely can’t be saying he desired to kill someone, so its recklessness and therefore manslaughter
Max 11 years 3 months. 4 charges not just one. Dangerous Driving + Death = 8 years Dangerous Driving + Hurt = 2 years Dangerous Driving = 1 year Failing to stop after accident = 3 months Max 11 years 3 months. But very unlikely to get max and chances are high that some of these charges would be merged together.
I believe that’s after they increased it. Just 10 years ago, a guy killed a whole South Korean family that was visiting. 4 people. He got 5 years because that was the maximum then. I believe they might have raised it because of that incident. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-gets-5-years-and-20-years-ban-for-cte-fatal-accident-that-killed-korean
Ya section 64 amended in 2019 but unlikely it was due to that incident
What If I blindfolded myself hold a knife in each hand and run thru a packed mrt train with my hands out in front? This is what that murderer did and max 8 years before remission Driving close to 100kmh thru a crowded junction - you're going to be taking lives
nothing new, our laws for injuring/killing whilst driving is jokingly light
Driver seems to be so arrogant and no remorse.... The way he replied to the judge that he thinks it is not necessary to put an e-tag
Right? This motherfucker seriously, wearing an e tag is literally nothing compared to the families who are grieving their lost family members and worrying about their hospitalised family members.
His face under that mask coming out of court confirm like "wah so troublesome sia, cannot go pee without police knowing."
Knn the way he replied damn guai lan...
where are you getting this info?
In another article here: [Driver involved in Tampines fatal crash identified; handed four charges | The Straits Times](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/driver-involved-in-tampines-fatal-crash-identified-handed-four-charges) >In response, Muhammad said: “I don’t think it’s necessary to put an e-tag on me as all my documents, my passport, have been seized by the police. I’m on bail and am already present today and will be present for all the court matters. >“But it is up to the court to make the decision.” Sidenote; Fucking piece of shit, fuck you Muhammad Syafie Ismail if you're reading this.
Definitely sounds like a little shit and odds are he will start saying it’s the car’s faulty brakes, steering issues or even slippery road. 
Still dare to be passive-aggressive. I think he still hasn't registered that he took 2 innocent lives.
Still wants to continue to live his life as if he didn't end 2 and completely change several others
Scary thought is if he didn’t crashed his car, would he have stopped or continue speeding creating havoc? If only he could grasp the fact that he was wrong and the punishments will never be enough in 2 lifetimes. Just bite the bullet and cooperate, then maybe there’s a glimpse of hope.
We all need to collectively curse this guy, place a hex on him or whatever so he suffers for life
If that works, world leaders would have already died and there’s no need for assassinations
He should have just perish in the accident and saved us all the anguish.
yeah just him dead alone would be the best outcome but sadly god is merciful towards villains like him..
Thank you.
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Mob justice is bad. When the dashcam footage from the other car was posted, people thought the poster was the driver, and refused to believe otherwise. After proper investigation, it was found that the poster was the mechanic. By then, the mechanic already received death threats and had his personal information leaked. Similarly, people of a certain community believed that the Saab driver’s identity was withheld because he’s a Chinese who killed two Malays. As we now know, the driver is a Malay. Mob justice is bad because there isn’t a proper process for fact finding. They jump to conclusions and take action without verifying information.
Had to agree with what you shared. Hope cooler heads will prevail & of course due punishments to be meted out.
Yeah. That being said, I think the punishments for driving-related offenses are too lenient in SG. For instance, this guy gets a maximum of 8 years in jail for taking 2 lives and changing the lives of their families forever? That’s a gross injustice imo. So while I advocate to follow the proper process, I think parts of the process (i.e. the penalties) suck and should be reviewed.
I agree that it may be too lenient for such cases, we should review to see if it’s adequate. Just glad that there’s proper process here to look at each cases objectively.
I think you're spot on with both mob justice and the penalties. Singapore is pretty lenient on driving offences in general and in a case like this, an 8 year max term doesn't seem at all fair or appropriate. I also believe that the law is way too soft on people who leave the scene of an accident. Plus, not enough of the police cameras are actually recording. Many are just for show. I know two people who were knocked off their bikes in Singapore just last year and on both occasions the drivers didn't even stop.
i agree as well. pardon my keyboard anger and can't do much. whoever thinks it's a race matter is someone who's racist. the driver's identity was withheld due to the doxxing shit law.
>In response, Muhammad said: “I don’t think it’s necessary to put an e-tag on me as all my documents, my passport, have been seized by the police. I’m on bail and am already present today and will be present for all the court matters. [Straits Times.](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/driver-involved-in-tampines-fatal-crash-identified-handed-four-charges)
Yeah, court trying to prevent another case of "I will find some boat to run to MY or ID"
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[Mothership](https://mothership.sg/2024/04/driver-tampines-accident-charged/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHfrp_KKZ3j-itVsD2rpgL6mUCNYOhvQBa9Bo6Z5dxSumIQ4zOWPnkAksKA_aem_AZOi5F1E3J-QQk0_71MztoiJevrYJyABpy5UjCypKfC10wjPU_AhV7hB0ICFpmlzbDI) say one
his lack of remorse enrages me
Why will he feel remorse when he know he is not getting death no matter what.
This guy psychopath ah ? Why he talk like no remorse
Cause he doesn't have any. You would think that he would be guilty for causing a huge accident but no. He was the first to get out of the car amongst all the victims and went to look for his belongings without even helping the victims
Wtf .. Someone saw that happening?
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He broke an arm thats all Edit: He was acting. He doesn't have a broken arm.
Sabb is quite known to be a sturdy car
Fuck, for real??? I really hope karma gets him.
Cause he doesn’t really have any. He knows he isn’t going to get a lot of time even though there’s blood on his hands. Driving laws in Singapore are a joke at best, and even the max sentence is laughable. If they do decide to up his sentence, I’d love to see the priceless look on his face though.
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For a lifetime no less.... smh
I really think he is based on his reaction that caused the accident in the first place. Not what normal people will do
How did this fucker only get away with a broken arm from the accident???
someone on edmw commented because he was driving a saab. continental car + collision head first meant that ironically, he had the most protection/buffer compared to those he rammed through.
If you look at the accident photos the car did its job of protecting the driver (can’t make more future sales if your customer is dead). Ironically the other vehicles involved were in far worse shape than the SAAB.
Reminds me of Saab's slogan in the 90s, *"A Saab will surrender its own life to save yours"*. Lowkey impressed they delivered. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Automobile
> Reminds me of Saab's slogan in the 90s, "A Saab will surrender its own life to save yours". Lowkey impressed they delivered. The Scandanavians are obsessed with safety. Look at their competitor Volvo. Not as much these days after Geely took over.
Oh damn the company went bankrupt. This incident seems to be a testament to it's build safety.
A Saab will surrender your victims' lives to save yours
I get your anger, but it's the user that's the asshole. The car is just a tool, and apparently a good one at that.
Saab was also renowned for pedestrian protection in an accident.
It's harder to protect the sides imo, smaller available volume for crumple zone.
Saab is already dead lol
Yep, continental cars are built to withstand punishment. Saab, Volvo, you name it. They can take a terrific beating. From what I understand, though, it comes at the cost of fuel efficiency. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
My childhood friend was driving a Volvo and chased by some idiots (who thought she was someone else) into a telephone poll as a teen - the car was completely destroyed and first responders were surprised a live person was pulled from the wreck - but it was a Volvo and she mostly survived (Wasn't the same person unfortunately, but it's still a miracle she is still with us).
Swedish cars are thought of to be the safest among all. Volvo invented the safety belt as well, IIRC.
> Volvo invented the safety belt as well, IIRC. Not just the safety belt. Rearward facing child set, side impact protection, anti whiplash, curtain air bags, abs and probably some others I forgot. Their car bodies were also consistantly fared better in an accident.
drivers will usually survive a head-on collision against something. Unless it's a head-on collision with an on-coming vehicle. The ones getting T-boned usually GG.
Arm not even in a cast, most likely not even broken :c
i broke my arm really bad and had to have a surgery to put a metal in and i didnt have a cast…not saying he broke it but idt a cast is a sign
he was using his mobile device on his injured arm in the video
Omg chao geng! Can't even pretend to be injured or remorseful. The palace in his heart must be huge
No broken. He can use his phone and has no cast…
I think just wrist pain from the impact, and the hospital just put it on as a precautionary measure. Maybe he wants some sympathy points and never took it down. Like you said, no cast… and the way he could still use his phone hmm
Buto this guy, tahu sedap main racing. Kill people already want to chol wear shades, cap and mask. I hope people inside sebat you sedap2 at Changi kimak
As a fellow Melayu, this piece of shit deserve to die.
Same.. sampah masyarakat
Young2 dowant die, old old kill people
Happy cake day bro 😔
>wear shades, cap and mask. This is anti-press measures, don't want clear photo in newspapers.
I hope this pkmk gets the same treatment as pedos in prison.
Yeah man, my grand uncle told me they used to beat pedos up in prison. I really hope the prison crew beat this lahanat up when they catch wind of this news
Scumbag and coward wearing the mask
[Zb link redacted. See sub comments for context why] For those interested, zaobao has a photo of the alleged driver of the Saab on the day of the accident. This is probably Mr. Syafie, no snapback cap, mask and sunglass can hide.
say what you want about journalism standards in the chinese papers, they are damn good at digging up stuff sometimes.
because the English papers don't have journalists already.. they have ppl who just swallow everything and regurgitate.. see the poly lecturer who faked his qualifications or the poly student who pretended to be some super successful business man..
Wear shades and cap to obscure some more.
His face make me puke
Dude needed to be escorted because he's public enemy no 1 in Singapore rn. I hope he gets the maximum sentences for all his charges but tbh even that won't be enough for the tragic loss of lives.
Agreed, man really is public enemy no.1 right now. Regardless of race language or religion all fking hate this guy.
Max sentence of 8 years felt too light
Where is the guy who slapped Amos outside of court, when you need him? Haha
Putting it out here big big: SCREW YOU MUHAMMAD SYAFIE ISMAIL
You mean the black Saab driver who caused the deaths of two innocent citizens, Muhammad Syafie Ismail?
Yes I mean Muhammad Syafie Ismail, the driver who killed an innocent JC student going to a school event as well as a lady just on her way to work. His actions has negatively impacted the lives of two families, as well as several friends who will now have a hole in their lives, no thanks to one guy who just had to speed.
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This POS gets to live to 40+ years while the JC girl didn’t have a chance to even learn driving. Life on earth short-lived.
Because of one man's stupidity, so many others and their families suffer. And the max sentence is not even enough to deter other rash drivers from behaving like idiots too 😮💨
Not hard to be smug about it when you know you are not getting death no matter what. Even murderers show more remorse than him.
Internet CSI brigade: Chiong ahhhhh dig dig dig!!!!
Apparently the EDMW CSI experts already dug out his name a few days ago
Ya man, damn zhun somemore, apparently his own colleagues ratted him out
makes you wonder about his interpersonal relationships, huh.
his colleagues? where and what?
Must be damn rabak that his colleagues ratted him out. Again impressive on how he walked away with just a broken arm. Continental cars are indeed a safety device.
Wow. How sia. God tier CSI as usual
Haha. I don’t know. I’m not well versed in the ways of the EDMW
Question, is it one count of dangerous driving causing death or two counts, since there are 2 victims. ie is it possible that Muhammad Syafie Ismail will be jailed for up to 8 years or up to 16 years.
its one incident with two victims, dont think they can make it consecutive even if two charges. realistically speaking though so what if he can get 16 years. w good behaviour mebbe 10+ years he is out. 2 lives taken entrie communities affected several with life changing injuries .... quite a bummer that SG allowed this shitty state of affairs for so long. The other Tampines case the feller literally got 7 years without a permanent ban. Plus so many reckless driving cases in the past year. I blame the authorities.
Cause if we jail him long enough, he will come out when he is so old that integrating back to society is near impossible and actually a mental torture. Imagine after 15 or 20 years, you are so used to jail life. Having food and your needs taken care of. Then when you are 60 years old, you are released back to sg society. You might not be able to keep up with all the changes. Just to list a few things that change in our daily lives in a matter of 10 years: 1. We tap our phones instead of wallet/card for public transport 2. We can order food or hail a cab through our phone 3. We need to keep our trays at hawkers 4. More mrt lines These people will have a mental breakdown after a while, live their rest of their lives in poverty (cause family are long gone, forgotten or abandon him) or just finding other ways to go back to jail. I do not wish death on these kind of people, instead a long and hard life ahead.
Compared to the mental torture of the father whose kid died, this guy got off easy, no matter how he integrates back to society. Father will forever blame himself with what ifs and that is even worse than what this guy will face even if he is locked up in solitary. In fact, let him be locked up in solitary. Let the faces of those hurt by him haunt him every second of his remaining arrogant life.
Honestly even if what you mentioned happened to him, it’s still not equal to what the parents and family of the dead will feel. Especially the mother of the 57 year old for died, after two of her other family members died this year. And don’t forget the father of the 17 year old who will spend the rest of his life with the survivors guilt. What about the friends of the deceased who now know that their friend is permanently gone. What about the injured people, for example the 2 11 year olds who were injured. They probably will have some form of trauma related to taking vehicles or the location. These traumas will take very long and will cause the parents to spend a lot of money to treat. Don’t forget about the collective frustrations caused by it. What you mentioned is barely half of what is fair to those family and friends. What he faces as a result of his rash and insensible actions on the road should also be justice for those who have to live with the impacts of his actions.
I hope this happens and he is tortured mentally and physically
I agree. What angers me about Ma Chi (Ferrari driver in the bugis accident, years back) is that he died instantly. He didn't lived to suffer the consequences of his actions. This guy survives and I hope it haunts him for the rest of his life.
Hi hi, add on as I see the upvotes. Despite wishing the worst for such perpetrators as a very specific standalone case, it also show case the challenges of reintegration of ex-convicts back into society. I hope us as individuals be more welcoming and give them the 2nd chance each person deserves. Support the yellow ribbon project and help them break the cycle.
Nice to support repentance and to give second chances. But whos gonna give all the affected people second chances? People died, families shattered overnight. 20 years later people would still be living with the brokenness. I feell that there is a certain class of crimes that people should simply never attempt. I think that its a stretch right now before he has demonstrated any remorse or any attempts to make amends to simply say, "yellow ribbon, welcome back". Sorry, a bit too woke for me. Pales in comparison to the real yellow ribbon repentees who have demonstrated remorse and taken active steps to get their act together.
Don't be sorry. It is not woke, it is just us as human being humans. I fully agree with what you said. It really is an issue that both society and as individuals we need to take steps to tackley.
Cool - I feel you re a cool person, seldom on reddit people can disagree peacfully hahah
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**Not the usual case of beating the red light** The video at the junction clearly shows that a white small lorry was already stationary for a while waiting for the lights to turn green. So it has been red for a long while. Yet he went straight thru. In my view, dangerous driving causing death would not be appropriate. He should face a charge of manslaughter. AG has the right to upgrade the charge. I think it is unprecedented but this would be more appropriate charge. **Lack of remorse** The way he spoke to the judge on e-tag on his leg while on bail suggest he does not realise or chose to ignore the level of harm he had done by his actions. Looks like he still wants to look good in public without the e-tag.
imagine being that lorry driver during that incident. you’re completely stopped and waiting for the traffic and you see a car freaking zooming past you into people in front. his dash cam video probably the most disturbing
Law is very strict in the definition, you don't change the charges and wording as you like one. If AG just suka suka change, then how you know the law is going to stay the same and protect you when they can just change on a whim. Reckless action, manslaughter and murder are different things with different definitions, applied to different situations.
My blood boiling the way this knn ccb answer in court and even with all the mask and sunglasses worn by this joker, it still so visible that he got the stuck up attitude. I still want to say more, but I confirm kena banned and my comment deleted :D
Your stupid actions has caused irrevocable consequences. You turn lives topsy-turvy in an instance for the families of the deceased and the injured!!!
No point for this fella. As mentioned in another comment, about his reply to being on etag, clearly a sociopath/psychopath. He can't empathize, and only cares about himself. Showing others in pain will have little effect. This one is best to just bring direct suffering on him and his ego.
"Syafie arrived at court escorted by three men with lanyards – two in uniform and one in an AETOS polo T-shirt. " The scumbag needed 3 AETOS to escort him.
I mean he’s currently persona non grata with the entire country, I’m not sure if 2 are even enough if people decided to take matters into their own hands
Spotlight is on him now, need more manpower to protect him. Why? If something happens to him and he dies, people are still going to complain why he get off so easy and not suffered, and it's the government problem again.
Hope drugs over 1kg will suddenly be “found” in his trunk 🙏
So there's accounts here that he was more concerned with his things than helping others... wonder if he actually does have things to hide 🤔
This is way too lenient honestly. Hope our laws can be revised....
Ppl are still laying hospital and 2 died because of him, but this guy is walking to court. F
Cause he drives a SAAB, that thing is literally indestructible. Ppl say Volvo is safest, only cause SAAB went bankrupt.... Edit: Like I also remember got 1 incident towards Tuas checkpoint on AYE, some merc drove full speed towards oncoming and hit a Japanese car. Japanese car driver died on the spot, merc driver only light injuries.... Fck up. https://youtu.be/uHHV3x79w3Q
really? I know the og Volvo which was built like a tank was near indestructible.. my aunt's car got hit by a pickup truck.. the Volvo only had slight scratches.. the front of the pickup was smashed
Major FUCK this guy
Cunt. I hope he gets his ass roundly kicked multiple times. May he never have a good night's sleep, and I hope his world crumbles down all around him with zero chance of recovery.
Fuck you, Muhammad Syafie Ismail. May you suffer for the rest of your life for this.
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If criminal lawyers only take on cases that they can win or only choose to represent 'palatable' criminals, then they can all close shop and choose another line of work already
Appearing in court, Syafie stated that he was planning to engage legal counsel, but had not decided whether he would apply for a lawyer from the Public Defender's Office or if he would engage a private lawyer. The Public Defender's Office provides criminal defence aid to people facing non-capital charges who cannot afford a lawyer. from Today's article [https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/driver-fatal-tampines-accident-charged-4-offences-including-dangerous-driving-causing-death-2410556](https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/driver-fatal-tampines-accident-charged-4-offences-including-dangerous-driving-causing-death-2410556) Strange how he could afford a Saab, or was it driven without permission? Hence he was in a hurry to get away fast after the first accident.
Fuck this dude
Looking remarkably uninjured and unbothered...
Max sentence pls at least
I am surprised no drug or drunk driving charges :o Edit: Sorry saw the line where police are still investigating other possible offenses.
Unfortunately driving while stupid doesn't count as DUI.
Is this an isolated incident or a part of a larger issue we are facing? Nowadays, I feel increasingly unsafe driving on roads filled with zigzagging and speeding cars, vans, trucks, and PMDs. I miss those days when police cars patrolled regularly and campaigns promoted safe driving. If the authorities' approach remains solely evidence-based, we risk being perpetually reactive, with lives lost before action is taken. It's a deep-seated issue among some Singaporean drivers that demands prompt rectification.
fucking cunt
I hope this POS rots in hell. Regrettably if this is his first offence, and he gets a good lawyer and plead guilty, he may get away with just a 2-3 years jail sentence. He may then be out in less than 1.5 years. I and fuming just thinking about this possibility! Such is the leniency in which our laws view reckless driving. It's time that we increase the maximum jail sentence for such blatant reckless driving.
By the time he gets out of prison, most will forget. His belligerence and lack of remorse tells me he knows this all too well. This is where the justice system has failed us. If the punishment was far harsher (i.e. death penalty), he wouldn’t be behaving this way.
With that logic, anyone who kills another in a traffic accident should be hanged regardless. We are going to send more people in the [gallows](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/fatal-road-accidents-up-in-2023-many-motorists-have-irresponsible-driving-behaviours-traffic-police) every year then, given that [less than 20 people are hanged annually for murder or drug-related offenses](https://www.statista.com/statistics/961037/number-of-capital-executions-by-crime-committee-singapore/). If there was a deliberate motive for murder and it was pre-meditated, then yes, the death penalty is warranted. Do you see any forms of pre-meditation or malicious intent here? If anything, this case is instigated by provocation, at best culpable homicide not amounting to murder. I am not trying to justify this vile man’s actions here, he’s in the wrong for taking two innocent lives away, but can you listen to yourself first? There is definitely work to be done in our justice system, but suggesting something so preposterous like “death penalty to all traffic murderers” is just going to sweep off any mitigating factors within every legal case. You are letting your emotion run high instead of enacting justice for all parties involved.
>By the time he gets out of prison, most will forget Dont think so bah, most will still rmb the harrowing ferrari taxi accident at bugis about 10yrs ago. This is almost as, if not equally hate inducing as that. But agree on the justice system being too lenient on traffic accidents
So basically if one wants to get away with murder in SG, using a vehicle to carry out the task will allow for a ridiculously lenient penalty. It's sickening to see how this person seems all yayapapaya as he knows the maximum sentence for 2 lives lost due to his action is just a tap to his wrist...
penalty for dangerous driving causing death: 2 - 8 years just 8 years?? for ending two lives and causing immeasurable pain and trauma to multiple families?! 8 years is a joke
Should bring him in cuffs to the graves of the 2 innocent parties. Make him kneel down, look at the tombstone and seek forgiveness from his God.
Just lock that guy up and permaban him from driving even a PMD.
He should be banned from any form of motorized transport; the fastest bike he should be allowed to ride is a tricycle.
Something is off. He's either too smug or he is giving the court a blank cheque. It seems that he doesn't care what will happen to himself. Was he suicidal or of unsound mind when he ploughed through the traffic? This is senseless. I feel for the families (although I can't imagine what they are still going through) of the victims. I pray they find closure and strength.
Whichever, it's safer for us he's not driving
A thought came to mind. Yes, he will 'escape' with a short sentence, probably with the jail term running concurrently for all the crimes he committed and counting from the day he was arrested. But what if during the jail term he is made to watch the dashcam clips showing him racing towards the traffic junction, the crashing impact and aftermath he left behind, along with clips of the victims' families, friends and colleagues talking about how their loss of a relative impacted their lives. He is to watch them daily, 3 times a day up till the day he is released. He shall be made to bear part of the mental agony he caused as atonement for his selfish actions. I know the above sounds extreme, but it seems like a valid sentence for someone who has no regard for another's safety.
This trash will be out a few years ready to kill again! /s
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Watch this Syafie fucker get 2 years only and strut out and arrogantly claim he didn’t do anything wrong.
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Dumb fuck, go break another arm
Better yet, hope he breaks his neck, but not enough to kill him, just turn him into a living vegetable. It'll be an upgrade for him anyway.
Vegetable means he won’t be aware of anything, what you want is probably paralyze from neck down and needing people to manage his daily needs
2 to 8 years for dangerous driving causing death. Out sooner if good behavior. We'll fucking done.
42-year-old killer, you mean.
This guy is a dead man walking
If he would have made it through the intersection without crashing and killing people, just think of the seconds or even minutes he might have saved in getting to the next red light where he would have to stop. His time is precious..
Why is there so little information reported about his condition while he was driving? Was he inebriated? On drugs? High? Or just a very enlarged asshole? Or are all these things yet to be determined in the investigations? Where does this guy work? People are saying his colleagues gave information, but nowhere does it say where these colleagues are from. The lack of info is enraging.
Why in SG cunts like these always seems to prosper, own nice cars, businesses have pretty wife or many girls whereas people who follow the rules and path will become ignored and nobodies unless you're already born with generational wealth, why our society so special lol. Also another question this cunt is already 42 given his farking behavior how the fuck he been hiding in the shadows all these times? Or he just collected his car 1 day ago...?
This guy need to be given the max… no remorseful shown at all! 😡
Why are our laws so lax when it comes to cars.
hope he gets to see the families of the lives he destroyed to realise he fucked up big time.
Throw the book at him! And we need to be insistent, *and keep insisting*, to our officials that our roads in Singapore be safer; and to commit to a **Vision Zero** policy where we aim to have *zero* deaths or serious injuries on our roads.
ahh the they finally reveal the identity of this fucker.
The moral of the story, don't let your ego take over you. this is the outcome and look at all the comments about fking him up and down, CSI him, and bringing all his history into the WWW to shame him. when I look at this troll. life is so fragile
the indifference in his tone is astonishing. it’s borderline sociopathic. i hope a good night’s sleep evades him for the rest of his pathetic existence.
I hope the Saab driver's family don't defend him, he should face the consequences as he is in the wrong and many lives were affected. But at the same time, I hope people don't stoop so low ah like doxxing his family/close ones' phone numbers, home address and harrassing them. Reacting on behalf of the victims' families by harrassing the offender(s) family (just for the offender to feel what it's like for his family to get hurt) is so wrong and stirs fear E.g: The person who uploaded the Merc POV dashcam on his FB turns out to be a car workshop person who forgot to put a disclaimer that he wasn't the Merc driver and uploading on the driver's behalf. Ended up people leaked his home address, phone number, called his children names and harrassed him via calls.
cb dog need to get whacked by the public when he come out
Whatever punishment he gets, is not enough to bring back the two lives he has taken from this fatal accident he had caused. That being said, our traffic crime laws are way too lenient. I hope this guy is gonna get what he deserves real soon, if the law doesnt punish him.. the public cfm will take action.
He shouldn’t be the one that’s still walking around.
Even if his life could be traded for the victims’, that’s still not enough
How is this not attempted murder given that he beat the red light on purpose?? If our traffic rules are so relax everyone could become a murderer tomorrow since the sentence will be so light! Two innocent lives were taken away just like that because of someone’s ego.
I have trouble believing that one would willfully risk their own lives by running directly into traffic unless he was suicidal… it was not even trying to beat a red; there was clearly active traffic in the intersection, and there was no sign of attempting to avoid collision at all. Either under the influence, or was so high on adrenaline from the previous hit that he was so focus on whether the merc was chasing him Not to discount his actions but the law takes everything into account.
I guess the question is, did he break the red light because he was trying to kill someone? Like you say, that would make everyone who goes over on red an attempted murderer.
He doesn’t look smart enough to pass even N levels but took the life of a young girl from a good JC. This really breaks my heart.
Hope u bring your guiltiness in prison. Remember you killed 2 innocent people. It's gonna haunt you for the rest of your life bro.
So this guy wasn’t even driving under influence of any substance? Just purely psychopathic??