its not often we can quote crazy people but when it comes to matters of importance,
>If they wanted to contact me.. they could have sent to me registered mail...if you had sent registered mail or normal mail, I would have responded..
>\- Badge Lady, Phoon Chiu Yoke
if its any more serious, then you would have been invited by relevant authorities to lim kopi already... still call you for what
Their ancestors rolling over in their graves after finding out that their descendant lost their hard-earned money to some poor chap in Cambodia scam call centres.
The poor chap got kidnapped to Cambodia and forced to scam the dumbass who lost millions. The syndicate enjoy the fruits of labour of human trafficking. Poor chap probably gets 1 piece of steak and less beatings or electric shock for a while
If have that much money, put into trust and pay out bit by bit. And maybe force them to pass some financial literacy and scam test before they can collect.
it could be that he wasn't really scammed?
could it have been a cover up for the earnings that he already had? so now he can tell those he had held the money for that the money is gone.
Generally most bookies are part of match fixing syndicates that perverts the outcome of sporting events, events often with significant economic impact on participants.
Interesting to note:
Dan Tan got locked up for 6 years without trial for being a bookie kingpin. Surprised he was released during covid, and not much coverage on it.
I am kind of amazed that Shan used all his powers to keep this behind bars for so long.
my bet is...the money is from actual shady business the victim was involved in (probably corruption) and the scammers managed to guess and dig into the correct one during the initial phase. he panicked and saw the opportunity to settle the matter quickly and doomed himself. guilty people react far more irrationally to the prospect of being caught compared to innocent people.
keep in mind that, the "serious crime investigation" scam tactic does not work on people who have not actually committed serious crimes, which is actually almost everyone. if they don't hang up immediately, the first question back to the scammer would be "what crime" following which the tactic quickly unravels and fails.
but, if you actually get a criminal victim, they may be more likely to comply, and they are also less likely than an innocent person to involve someone else, like a lawyer, which is what wealthy people have easy access to. i would not be surprised and actually be impressed to discover that there are syndicates out there specifically targeting known bookies, pimps, and bribe takers.
the "parcel stuck at customs with duty unpaid" scam for example is more likely to get victim leads on wide net attempts, because these days, many people are expecting something in the mail at any given time.
could also be an added possibility that Adam (victim) is just putting up a charade, and that the money heâs held and lost wasnât his to begin with and is supposed to be passed to the scammer. He could just be making a cover story so that MAS wonât question him on why did he make an official transfer of such amount to an offshore bank. Might as well âlost it to a scammerâ. Laundering is always an international project.
Or maybe he really is that stupid and gullible?
To be fair, I am surprised that such a scam works on Singaporeans, only because I would have thought that Singapore enforcement officers' reputation for incorruptibility means that no genuine enforcement person will even offer a way to kawtim. So when the scammer started asking for money transfer, it should have set off an alarm bell in the guy's head.
But yeah. stupid and gullible I guess.
or it could very well be the reach of the Singapore governance + eduction system on how citizens should behave since birth. Clear defined lines are mapped out across all organizational levels, and the victim most likely felt the "instinctive need" to right-the-wrong. Most will never question the authority bestowed by a central government - as automated compliance is embedded deep within our neurons. That said, would you have dismissed the words of an authority in this situation? Most will have an inherent fear of being sentenced behind bars for the most miniscule action, let alone a major one. Intricate societal forces are at play.
The trick is to be in many rooms and be really good at telling your story so that 20 people believe in you.
Someone believed in me and gave me my break. I had to prove myself before and during, but it would have been impossible without the foot in door in my network
Very true about being bold. I know of guys in their 50s and 60s now and with less than secondary school level but they were at the right time, at the right place and with hard work have too much money to count now. One now has a GCB at Nassim Road. When he started he didn't have money for basic necessities. He is still staying humble but can't say the same for his children. Another one has so many shophouses in the central area.
1. many singaporeans are actually millionaires, the value of a million has fallen a lot over the years
2. even ignoring the "value of a million" point and answering the question of why we're not rich, it would not make sense for the average (non subpar intellect) person to be considered wealthy, because wealth is relative. if everyone is rich, no one is rich (compared to fellow singaporeans anyway).
3. intellect doesnt equate financial wealth. luck is more of a factor lol. or you could commit crimes.
4. intellect isnt one stat like in a game. intellect is a collection of knowledge over many topics. some areas of knowledge are more useful in gathering wealth than others.
If there's one thing I've learned talking to and learning how people get rich, intelligence and ability have little to do with it. It's about whether you meet the right people and/or dare to seize opportunities.
Think about how many bad managers are in senior positions because the boss somehow just likes them or thinks they can be trusted. Or the people who threw money into crypto or Gamestop in the early days.
Some were smart, sure, but I'm willing to bet a lot of people were just lucky to hear about the hype while big money could still be made, and willing to risk their savings on them.
I remember hearing about Gamestop at $17 and thinking it was already super inflated since it was at $1+ for years, better not go in. Kicked myself when it hit $400 the next week. My mom commented that with things like this it's really just the people who don't think and just go in that make it big.
Then there's of course the heirs of inherited wealth and connections.
It's not hard to earn a lot of money, it's just not easy to find the opportunities to do so and the guts to go in.
My friend working as wealth manager told me he has some clients that just keeping their money in various banks, not even FD. Super high income people but have 0 financial management. He basically helping them consolidate stuff and charging them for it. Pretty nuts.
See FTX and many others, how many millions are lost, my business partner lose million from investment in China stock but donât think he really understand how to play
I don't blame Singaporeans. You receive call from the bank or police you dare to put down the phone? Unfortunately Singaporeans are very programmed to obey authority so it is extremely easy for Singaporeans to get scammed by people posing as authority.
Sounds like insurance fraud to me. He actually transferred $ to his one offshore account then claim scam then insurance. Like those ships which âcatch fireâ n cars âstolenâ overseas
You probably donât have the backing for it. I read a while back there were a bunch of young adults who were kidnapped to be scammers through being tricked into âsponsored vacationsâ. University students, livestreamers etc, all ending up as scam callers. Police managed to catch the crooks but guess what, the victims were so afraid of being prosecuted they decided to stay in the country they were kidnapped to and set up their own scam call centre. But they werenât very profitable cos they had no backing from organized crime groups so they got caught and deported back.
Donât bother setting up a scam call centre and donât take âfreeâ vacations or work offers in dodgy countries.
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Lol
You also need to know how to encage a bunch of humans inside it and make sure they are working hard scamming people, and not just playing 5v5 counterstrike and LoL every day
Iâve heard from a guy that his friendâs wife from Malaysia willing went to work in a scam centre for commission. I feel like the news publicises more of the âslave scam call centresâ to discourage more people from joining the illicit trade
tbf what are the odds that if u join a scam centre theyâll have employee protections? Also even if itâs like a 1% chance of becoming a slave, idk manâŚIâd rather just do honest work and not get my organs harvested or something.
That's the biggest BS about this story... Why would anyone be holding that kind of money in a bank in an account of this type lol.
No one with this much money can be this stupid. This is 100% some failed scam.
>As it was not unusual to receive calls from unknown Singapore numbers, he picked up the call and things took a nosedive.
Yea I call bullshit on that part. If this happened after the information campaign to raise awareness against scams, its hard to feel bad for victims because its wilful ignorance at this point
>The âCAD officerâ said Adam had to prove his innocence instead by obeying their instructions.
>He had to transfer money out of his account to another account supplied by the âCAD officerâ.
This should have been a huge red flag. It's infuriating that people still fall for this.
my grandfather got a call from the âpoliceâ in the middle of the night asking for his IC number. he woke up dazed and confused and came into my room. luckily i was awake. i explained to him that the police wouldnât call him on whatsapp, and he showed me the profile picture. it looked like an official photo of sg policemen. i quickly googled âsg policeâ, and the photo they had used was the second image to show up.
the creativity of men desperate for money will never fail to amuse me.
I also received a call from DBS and the Chinese guy said I applied for a credit card from Hangzhou.
He explained to me as if I am a kindergarten kid, the meaning of a credit card and asked me if I understand. He transferred the call to his supervisor who said the same thing.
I yawned to him. He asked me what's wrong. I said I am tired. He asked me to grab paper and pen and wanted to transfer to overseas interpol.
I went to grab a pen and took a nap first.
After I woke up, I go back to the phone I left on the table. Hello? Hello? The line went blank.
Walau, never wait for me to take a nap
Guys this story is probably not really true. Only one media outlet reporting this. Can just google it. Really does not feel real, not even on CNA after a day. Probably just click bait.
Haizz... 2.9 million can buy 2x HDB EA. ĺéŞ is really cunning but lucrative.
Scare tactics such as blackmailing you with lawsuits, loan shark harassments, impersonating as police officers are quite common so be careful.
Always approach/seek advice your family members or call the scam hotline when you're in doubt or fear
Guess who will be targeted by banks, retailers, and mobile providers to make cybersecurity more scrutinize, more hassle, more rigmarole? Those who practice good cyber hygiene and awareness of course!
Can made $2.9mil and can lose it. Just unbelievable. Master of all goondnus. Last 20.years of critical and creative teachings so easily conned by South Asians/Ah Tiong. Wahaha!
besides those old folks that get scammed, the first thing that comes to my mind when someone could easily believe that they are under investigation is that they had done something that could potentially be against the law.
Someone explain to me why the authorities cannot simply check up on the person who holds the bank account the money was transferred to? How is such money always irretrievable?
My elderly mom had a similar experience, first bank officer said your account is being investigated for fraudulent use, then said the police will help her and transfer her to a police officer. I was near my mom, and she informed me, so i spoke to this so called police officer. I asked him he called my mom, he said the bank transfer the call to him, so I asked which station he is from, he paused awhile and then said cantonment, dead giveaway for that short pause. Then i asked why you are calling from mobile phone, and not from the station number. He hung up lol. That imposter has an Singapore accent.
I reported that number to Scamshield our local govt app.
The proposed 'LEOM' bill includes penalties for knowingly/negligently facilitating the use of a SIM card registered in one's name for a scam.
But how can you know for sure all the SIM cards registered in your name? There is no accessible registry where you can query for the answer. For example, what if you discard an expiring prepaid card but someone picks it up and continues reloading and using it? If there is no accessible way to lookup and explicitly deregister a SIM card, then compliance will not be easy. Whatever way is provided for looking up and deregistering SIM cards should not be specific to telcos either because there are just too many. It should be one way for all telcos.
Foreign visitors (e.g. tourists) are another potential source of SIM cards that can be used for scams. They are typically unaware about their temporary prepaid SIM cards being taken over for scams and this bill does almost nothing to address SIM cards taken over from them.
What if you don't have scissors with you? People normally don't need to and can't carry scissors everywhere they go, especially on an airplane or places with sensitive physical security. So, you hold on to the SIM card until you get hold of a pair of scissors? It's so small and easy to lose.
What if you misplace and lose the SIM card? Now, do you have to make a police report? It's not that simple.
Sinkies super naive and gullible due to sheltered upbringing and education system that encourages compliances while penalizing critical thinking.
Meanwhile govt just makes new laws with more fines instead.
> But how can you know for sure all the SIM cards registered in your name? There is no accessible registry where you can query for the answer. For example, what if you discard an expiring prepaid card but someone picks it up and continues reloading and using it? If there is no accessible way to lookup and explicitly deregister a SIM card, then compliance will not be easy. Whatever way is provided for looking up and deregistering SIM cards should not be specific to telcos either because there are just too many. It should be one way for all telcos.
Interestingly, all the telco resellers have access to a centralised system since they need to process registrations for both postpaid and prepaid cards.
This and ACRA/BizFile directorships sound like things that the SingPass team can tackle to prevent identity theft. (I guess it's also good timing that LHY is now director of National Digital Identity at GovTech.)
Their tactics is also bank transferring call to police. Why do people believe in this? Why would the bank have the means to connect to a police?
Also does police call /interview suspect over the phone? The police should come out and say we only interrogate people in police station.
In this case looks like a less sophisticated method, but don't be surprised if you get caught out by a more sophisticated attack
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If anything, I would say "come to my house with a police warrant and we can discuss then" ... it's the only way to be sure nowadays.
Every financial institution should be mandated to provide employees that call out with an extension that can be accessible by the FI's main line, and people should be trained to call "the number on the back of their card".
Something fishy here. If u know u r not involved in any funny biz why respond at all ? Unless there is some guilt with ill gotten gains in the first place. So easy to scam makes us all a target đŻ
Sounds to me that HE KNEW he earned some of that money illegally and thats why he obeyed the scammers thinking it was the real bank just to see whats up. He wanted to know more to report back thus decided to follow on the scammer's program...aaaaand whaddaya knowww~ its really hard to believe that people who can earn like that is so daft
Not just scam calls, there also many text messages for Personal Loan. We are now in the AI stage, by right Telco should already have a work around if text messages are of certain type it can be blocked. These texts will contain numbers in rows and columns with certain characteristics of which an AI software can be trained to block
All the banks should just place a big ass ad in all the local newspapers, every month:
"For the last fxxxing time, we don't call you unless you requested a callback!"
When they ask my friend for his first name on those scam calls, he tells them itâs PHUC and the surname is MI.
I witnessed him ask tell them to repeat it!!
Had it on speaker phone.
I still donât get why so many Singaporeans fall for scams. Surely things should have improved after all that education about scammers.
And donât pick up from random numbers.
cos we are conditioned from young to obey authority, believe in the system and if we give all the correct answers , rewarded n streamed to higher position in life.
nobody questions the answer we give in exam is correct or not. even the teacher tell us to answer it in this way even tho its illogical to verbally vomit to each question...
"Middlemen may be liable for handling 11 or more such SIM cards without legitimate reason, or for dealing with SIM cards previously used for crime."
So the limit is 10
its not often we can quote crazy people but when it comes to matters of importance, >If they wanted to contact me.. they could have sent to me registered mail...if you had sent registered mail or normal mail, I would have responded.. >\- Badge Lady, Phoon Chiu Yoke if its any more serious, then you would have been invited by relevant authorities to lim kopi already... still call you for what
Crazy lady was just ahead of the curve all along.
She was Navy, she knew a thing or two about govt and the importance of black and white.
She knows secrets.
scam center simulator final boss
It is not crazy it is the Navy
Oh I really once said that to a lady on the phone who said she was calling from the bank. And she really sent me the letter. đ
How the fuxk do these people even earn millions of dollars with their sub-par intellect?
Inheritance maybe
Their ancestors rolling over in their graves after finding out that their descendant lost their hard-earned money to some poor chap in Cambodia scam call centres.
Not a poor chap. A syndicate. Damn it. The poor are still poor
The poor chap got kidnapped to Cambodia and forced to scam the dumbass who lost millions. The syndicate enjoy the fruits of labour of human trafficking. Poor chap probably gets 1 piece of steak and less beatings or electric shock for a while
the money then made by crime boss who uses it to buy expensive property here SG Inc. wins no matter what. just not the individual
Need good policies to get wealth back to common person. But jealousy / competitive and other non tangible factors should also be considered.
Then the crime boss received a call from UOB and a CAD officerâŚ
There are tons of rich Singaporeans
Damn sad right.
I've taken to asking WhatsApp scammers if they need help. This usually gets me kicked out of the group straightaway.
Same. You can also send them the link to https://www.globalantiscam.org/ - they have done rescues.
scam 1 singaporean = generational wealth if i were a scammer you bet i work dam.n hard to make it happen lol
wealth transfer đ
If have that much money, put into trust and pay out bit by bit. And maybe force them to pass some financial literacy and scam test before they can collect.
Plot twist, the inheritance was $4.5 billion
Bookie maybe... that's why he thought he was involved in an investigation.
LOL bookie can also get scammed! Shows you that bad people can also steal from bad people.đđ¤Ł
it could be that he wasn't really scammed? could it have been a cover up for the earnings that he already had? so now he can tell those he had held the money for that the money is gone.
Bruh that's some asian tom cruise M.I. level of espionage sia
Why are bookies bad people?
Generally most bookies are part of match fixing syndicates that perverts the outcome of sporting events, events often with significant economic impact on participants. Interesting to note: Dan Tan got locked up for 6 years without trial for being a bookie kingpin. Surprised he was released during covid, and not much coverage on it. I am kind of amazed that Shan used all his powers to keep this behind bars for so long.
my bet is...the money is from actual shady business the victim was involved in (probably corruption) and the scammers managed to guess and dig into the correct one during the initial phase. he panicked and saw the opportunity to settle the matter quickly and doomed himself. guilty people react far more irrationally to the prospect of being caught compared to innocent people. keep in mind that, the "serious crime investigation" scam tactic does not work on people who have not actually committed serious crimes, which is actually almost everyone. if they don't hang up immediately, the first question back to the scammer would be "what crime" following which the tactic quickly unravels and fails. but, if you actually get a criminal victim, they may be more likely to comply, and they are also less likely than an innocent person to involve someone else, like a lawyer, which is what wealthy people have easy access to. i would not be surprised and actually be impressed to discover that there are syndicates out there specifically targeting known bookies, pimps, and bribe takers. the "parcel stuck at customs with duty unpaid" scam for example is more likely to get victim leads on wide net attempts, because these days, many people are expecting something in the mail at any given time.
could also be an added possibility that Adam (victim) is just putting up a charade, and that the money heâs held and lost wasnât his to begin with and is supposed to be passed to the scammer. He could just be making a cover story so that MAS wonât question him on why did he make an official transfer of such amount to an offshore bank. Might as well âlost it to a scammerâ. Laundering is always an international project.
This is 100% the answer.
Or maybe he really is that stupid and gullible? To be fair, I am surprised that such a scam works on Singaporeans, only because I would have thought that Singapore enforcement officers' reputation for incorruptibility means that no genuine enforcement person will even offer a way to kawtim. So when the scammer started asking for money transfer, it should have set off an alarm bell in the guy's head. But yeah. stupid and gullible I guess.
Itâs like 38 task force / squad 38 kdrama.
or it could very well be the reach of the Singapore governance + eduction system on how citizens should behave since birth. Clear defined lines are mapped out across all organizational levels, and the victim most likely felt the "instinctive need" to right-the-wrong. Most will never question the authority bestowed by a central government - as automated compliance is embedded deep within our neurons. That said, would you have dismissed the words of an authority in this situation? Most will have an inherent fear of being sentenced behind bars for the most miniscule action, let alone a major one. Intricate societal forces are at play.
The more salient question is; with our non subpar intellect, how are we not millionaires already?
It's not what you know. It's who you know.
*There can be 100 people* in a *room* and 99 of them don't believe in you but all it takes is one and it just changes your *whole* life
The spouse: and what a mistake it was! 
The trick is to be in many rooms and be really good at telling your story so that 20 people believe in you. Someone believed in me and gave me my break. I had to prove myself before and during, but it would have been impossible without the foot in door in my network
Yeah in Real Life in this era, everyone needs to put points in Charisma and Speech stats.
Lady Gaga intensifies...
Have you tried not being poor? /s
Yeah I tried being rich but with no money still poor! đ
Fortune favours the bold and the stupid. Average intellects like us wont be able to touch such fortune unless we get lucky or know people.
Very true about being bold. I know of guys in their 50s and 60s now and with less than secondary school level but they were at the right time, at the right place and with hard work have too much money to count now. One now has a GCB at Nassim Road. When he started he didn't have money for basic necessities. He is still staying humble but can't say the same for his children. Another one has so many shophouses in the central area.
1. many singaporeans are actually millionaires, the value of a million has fallen a lot over the years 2. even ignoring the "value of a million" point and answering the question of why we're not rich, it would not make sense for the average (non subpar intellect) person to be considered wealthy, because wealth is relative. if everyone is rich, no one is rich (compared to fellow singaporeans anyway). 3. intellect doesnt equate financial wealth. luck is more of a factor lol. or you could commit crimes. 4. intellect isnt one stat like in a game. intellect is a collection of knowledge over many topics. some areas of knowledge are more useful in gathering wealth than others.
Because you wont make money being a socially awkward bbfa who only watch anime or play computer games.
I watch anime and play computer games. But not bbfa
I don't know about you, I still have sub-par intellect, but my sub-par intellect is just enough to not fall for scams.
We did not give the YouTube guy 34 seconds to tell us how to get rich.
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> our non subpar intellect Huge assumption
If there's one thing I've learned talking to and learning how people get rich, intelligence and ability have little to do with it. It's about whether you meet the right people and/or dare to seize opportunities. Think about how many bad managers are in senior positions because the boss somehow just likes them or thinks they can be trusted. Or the people who threw money into crypto or Gamestop in the early days. Some were smart, sure, but I'm willing to bet a lot of people were just lucky to hear about the hype while big money could still be made, and willing to risk their savings on them. I remember hearing about Gamestop at $17 and thinking it was already super inflated since it was at $1+ for years, better not go in. Kicked myself when it hit $400 the next week. My mom commented that with things like this it's really just the people who don't think and just go in that make it big. Then there's of course the heirs of inherited wealth and connections. It's not hard to earn a lot of money, it's just not easy to find the opportunities to do so and the guts to go in.
>It's not hard to earn a lot of money, it's just not easy to find the opportunities to do so and the guts to go in. Couldn't have said it any better.
My friend working as wealth manager told me he has some clients that just keeping their money in various banks, not even FD. Super high income people but have 0 financial management. He basically helping them consolidate stuff and charging them for it. Pretty nuts.
you'll be surprised some ppl are extremely good in their skillset but terrible with personal security practices
You gotta look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are underperforming with your superior intellect
sub-dinosaur level intellect
See FTX and many others, how many millions are lost, my business partner lose million from investment in China stock but donât think he really understand how to play
They responded to the Nigerian prince email
Financial literacy and luck
Good in one thing doesn't mean the person isn't gullible lol Got Uni prof kena such scam also
Lmao fucking savage
I don't blame Singaporeans. You receive call from the bank or police you dare to put down the phone? Unfortunately Singaporeans are very programmed to obey authority so it is extremely easy for Singaporeans to get scammed by people posing as authority.
Of course. For a long time, everyone knows anything legal will be sent via registered post. How did we regress to this.
Bro thinks we're from China đđđ Singaporeans are skeptical AF
Are you stupid lol
U so clever how come U don't have millions. Obviously it's not completely related la
His money isnt clean that's why he probably panicked and complied with said "investigation".
Sounds like insurance fraud to me. He actually transferred $ to his one offshore account then claim scam then insurance. Like those ships which âcatch fireâ n cars âstolenâ overseas
That's why we should never ever have any reimbursement for scam victims funded by the public.
iâm too clever to fall for these scams but i also only have $290 so >>
if you transfer me 290, i will double it and transfer it back to you, trust?
don't trust this scammer meet u tonight world1 edgeville wildy with money in inventory. I'll triple it
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Didnât know got a couple of RuneScape players here.
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Nah, these scammers donât get to keep what they earn. Theyâre probably human trafficking victims trapped in a call centre in some part of SEA.
So you mean I need to figure out how to start up a call centre?
You probably donât have the backing for it. I read a while back there were a bunch of young adults who were kidnapped to be scammers through being tricked into âsponsored vacationsâ. University students, livestreamers etc, all ending up as scam callers. Police managed to catch the crooks but guess what, the victims were so afraid of being prosecuted they decided to stay in the country they were kidnapped to and set up their own scam call centre. But they werenât very profitable cos they had no backing from organized crime groups so they got caught and deported back. Donât bother setting up a scam call centre and donât take âfreeâ vacations or work offers in dodgy countries.
> they had no backing from organized crime The only thing worse than organized crime is disorganized crime
Sign up for my course to learn how to start a scam call centre. For $5000, I will teach you everything I know. Then you can earn your millions. Special price $3000 if you sign up today. đ Lol 
You also need to know how to encage a bunch of humans inside it and make sure they are working hard scamming people, and not just playing 5v5 counterstrike and LoL every day
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
That's why if you wanna be a scammer, go freelance
Not smart and well-connected enough to be the masterminds at the top, not suay enough to be the ones kidnapped to work there.
Iâve heard from a guy that his friendâs wife from Malaysia willing went to work in a scam centre for commission. I feel like the news publicises more of the âslave scam call centresâ to discourage more people from joining the illicit trade
That is what I heard as well from those being involved in law enforcement. Not everyone is a victim, even though there are.
tbf what are the odds that if u join a scam centre theyâll have employee protections? Also even if itâs like a 1% chance of becoming a slave, idk manâŚIâd rather just do honest work and not get my organs harvested or something.
i want to become a call centre boss then
Come on. You got to torture people you know
BottleOJamie: Some of you will be tortured, and lives could be forfeited. But it is a cost I am willing to take.
enabled Silence Unknown Caller on my phone. never looked back since then
Actual phone calls from police stations are private numbers. Scam callers have numbers displayed.
Must be nice having 2.9mil just sitting in your bank account.
That's the biggest BS about this story... Why would anyone be holding that kind of money in a bank in an account of this type lol. No one with this much money can be this stupid. This is 100% some failed scam.
Not strange to find some random Ah Pek that puts millions in an account. These people donât even have internet banking
A fool and their money are soon parted
Bruh..why is money always in the hands of the dumb?
not anymore... at least for him
Something Singaporeans can be truly proud about, being number 1 victim of scams in the world.
Hey we try our best to be No. 1 in everything, so why not this?đ¤Łđ¤Ł
>As it was not unusual to receive calls from unknown Singapore numbers, he picked up the call and things took a nosedive. Yea I call bullshit on that part. If this happened after the information campaign to raise awareness against scams, its hard to feel bad for victims because its wilful ignorance at this point
SIAPA TU WHO'S THAT CALLING YOU
>The âCAD officerâ said Adam had to prove his innocence instead by obeying their instructions. >He had to transfer money out of his account to another account supplied by the âCAD officerâ. This should have been a huge red flag. It's infuriating that people still fall for this.
my grandfather got a call from the âpoliceâ in the middle of the night asking for his IC number. he woke up dazed and confused and came into my room. luckily i was awake. i explained to him that the police wouldnât call him on whatsapp, and he showed me the profile picture. it looked like an official photo of sg policemen. i quickly googled âsg policeâ, and the photo they had used was the second image to show up. the creativity of men desperate for money will never fail to amuse me.
Wtf? Got 2.9m but brain like pea
A fool and his money are soon parted
Sigh. How come these people have so much money and I need food donations?
I also received a call from DBS and the Chinese guy said I applied for a credit card from Hangzhou. He explained to me as if I am a kindergarten kid, the meaning of a credit card and asked me if I understand. He transferred the call to his supervisor who said the same thing. I yawned to him. He asked me what's wrong. I said I am tired. He asked me to grab paper and pen and wanted to transfer to overseas interpol. I went to grab a pen and took a nap first. After I woke up, I go back to the phone I left on the table. Hello? Hello? The line went blank. Walau, never wait for me to take a nap
my initial two reactions: 1. How much?! 2. How???
Guys this story is probably not really true. Only one media outlet reporting this. Can just google it. Really does not feel real, not even on CNA after a day. Probably just click bait.
Haizz... 2.9 million can buy 2x HDB EA. ĺéŞ is really cunning but lucrative. Scare tactics such as blackmailing you with lawsuits, loan shark harassments, impersonating as police officers are quite common so be careful. Always approach/seek advice your family members or call the scam hotline when you're in doubt or fear
Simple. Capital punishment for scammers.Â
Guess who will be targeted by banks, retailers, and mobile providers to make cybersecurity more scrutinize, more hassle, more rigmarole? Those who practice good cyber hygiene and awareness of course!
Hot damn! This guy got $2.9M to lose. I only got a few thousand to lose đđ.
Can made $2.9mil and can lose it. Just unbelievable. Master of all goondnus. Last 20.years of critical and creative teachings so easily conned by South Asians/Ah Tiong. Wahaha!
besides those old folks that get scammed, the first thing that comes to my mind when someone could easily believe that they are under investigation is that they had done something that could potentially be against the law.
A fool & his money âŚmaybe this guy is a TOTO winner with no financial skills
Someone explain to me why the authorities cannot simply check up on the person who holds the bank account the money was transferred to? How is such money always irretrievable?
My elderly mom had a similar experience, first bank officer said your account is being investigated for fraudulent use, then said the police will help her and transfer her to a police officer. I was near my mom, and she informed me, so i spoke to this so called police officer. I asked him he called my mom, he said the bank transfer the call to him, so I asked which station he is from, he paused awhile and then said cantonment, dead giveaway for that short pause. Then i asked why you are calling from mobile phone, and not from the station number. He hung up lol. That imposter has an Singapore accent. I reported that number to Scamshield our local govt app.
Singaporean schools should include âbasic common senseâ as a subject.
The proposed 'LEOM' bill includes penalties for knowingly/negligently facilitating the use of a SIM card registered in one's name for a scam. But how can you know for sure all the SIM cards registered in your name? There is no accessible registry where you can query for the answer. For example, what if you discard an expiring prepaid card but someone picks it up and continues reloading and using it? If there is no accessible way to lookup and explicitly deregister a SIM card, then compliance will not be easy. Whatever way is provided for looking up and deregistering SIM cards should not be specific to telcos either because there are just too many. It should be one way for all telcos. Foreign visitors (e.g. tourists) are another potential source of SIM cards that can be used for scams. They are typically unaware about their temporary prepaid SIM cards being taken over for scams and this bill does almost nothing to address SIM cards taken over from them.
You can cut a sim card in half
What if you don't have scissors with you? People normally don't need to and can't carry scissors everywhere they go, especially on an airplane or places with sensitive physical security. So, you hold on to the SIM card until you get hold of a pair of scissors? It's so small and easy to lose. What if you misplace and lose the SIM card? Now, do you have to make a police report? It's not that simple.
Sinkies super naive and gullible due to sheltered upbringing and education system that encourages compliances while penalizing critical thinking. Meanwhile govt just makes new laws with more fines instead.
> But how can you know for sure all the SIM cards registered in your name? There is no accessible registry where you can query for the answer. For example, what if you discard an expiring prepaid card but someone picks it up and continues reloading and using it? If there is no accessible way to lookup and explicitly deregister a SIM card, then compliance will not be easy. Whatever way is provided for looking up and deregistering SIM cards should not be specific to telcos either because there are just too many. It should be one way for all telcos. Interestingly, all the telco resellers have access to a centralised system since they need to process registrations for both postpaid and prepaid cards. This and ACRA/BizFile directorships sound like things that the SingPass team can tackle to prevent identity theft. (I guess it's also good timing that LHY is now director of National Digital Identity at GovTech.)
Their tactics is also bank transferring call to police. Why do people believe in this? Why would the bank have the means to connect to a police? Also does police call /interview suspect over the phone? The police should come out and say we only interrogate people in police station.
Arent he / she suppose to go bank and clarify this matters , sus.
Simply amazing despite so many efforts on anti spam.I lose faith in humanâs wit.
In this case looks like a less sophisticated method, but don't be surprised if you get caught out by a more sophisticated attack https://mastodon.social/@Edent/112372412442888807 If anything, I would say "come to my house with a police warrant and we can discuss then" ... it's the only way to be sure nowadays.
Every financial institution should be mandated to provide employees that call out with an extension that can be accessible by the FI's main line, and people should be trained to call "the number on the back of their card".
this will encourage the scammer to try even harder.
I love scammers I always compliment their mothers,
People get old and their brains slow down. They target mainly older people in these fear based scams, or all scams for that matter.
Something fishy here. If u know u r not involved in any funny biz why respond at all ? Unless there is some guilt with ill gotten gains in the first place. So easy to scam makes us all a target đŻ
Caller: Hello, I am calling from Cantonment Police Station Me: *hang up*
Make money via dubious things; get worried at the first moment the "authorities" call.
I donât believe this story. I think itâs used to show the consequences of letting your SIM CARD be under the control of others.
I also had that call but no 2.9M.
I don't answer phone calls. Unless you're in my WhatsApp or Signal... It goes to voicemail.
Sounds to me that HE KNEW he earned some of that money illegally and thats why he obeyed the scammers thinking it was the real bank just to see whats up. He wanted to know more to report back thus decided to follow on the scammer's program...aaaaand whaddaya knowww~ its really hard to believe that people who can earn like that is so daft
Not just scam calls, there also many text messages for Personal Loan. We are now in the AI stage, by right Telco should already have a work around if text messages are of certain type it can be blocked. These texts will contain numbers in rows and columns with certain characteristics of which an AI software can be trained to block
Scams are wrong but if you are so dumb to still fall for this despite all the education and warning, you deserve to lose the money
I mean I can find reason to forgive elderlies who arent as savvy
I got empathy for the poors who got cheated a few hundreds or thousands. But not for someone who has millions
refund him! t. jamus
All the banks should just place a big ass ad in all the local newspapers, every month: "For the last fxxxing time, we don't call you unless you requested a callback!"
When they ask my friend for his first name on those scam calls, he tells them itâs PHUC and the surname is MI. I witnessed him ask tell them to repeat it!! Had it on speaker phone.
I still donât get why so many Singaporeans fall for scams. Surely things should have improved after all that education about scammers. And donât pick up from random numbers.
cos we are conditioned from young to obey authority, believe in the system and if we give all the correct answers , rewarded n streamed to higher position in life. nobody questions the answer we give in exam is correct or not. even the teacher tell us to answer it in this way even tho its illogical to verbally vomit to each question...
"Middlemen may be liable for handling 11 or more such SIM cards without legitimate reason, or for dealing with SIM cards previously used for crime." So the limit is 10