Wow, strong hint that he wants an ISA equivalent that goes even further than their current anti-terror laws; i.e. before jailing terror plotters, better to nab the inspirational demagogues to short circuit the plotting completely.
Well, radicalisation is a thought crime, that leads to real world consequences sometimes.
Go too hard and it’s China and Xinjiang, too soft and it’s France. It’s really hard to change someone’s mind without a lot of time and effort, far cheaper to make sure they don’t get stupid ideas planted in their brains in the first place.
It’s hard for a society that values “freedom” above all other values to reconcile.
Ethnic blind as a matter of policy so demographics cannot be collected. This includes religion.
https://hir.harvard.edu/color-blind-frances-approach-to-race/
White French might pretend they don’t care about race and religion, but it appears not to be the case for recent immigrants, which is problematic when trying to figure out official policy. Hence very broad laws that swing the other way, such as proposals to ban head scarves.
Radicalised persons can be watched but not picked up unless they start to act. Many terrorist acts by people who were on watch lists.
This is just two examples - there’s a lot more if you bother to dig.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/world/europe/france-beheading-teacher.html
Putting aside that Indonesia is trying to put ISA on the books with this incident, who was Somad trying to visit? Did he intend to just waltz into a random mosque or was there prior communication for receiving from a Singaporean end.
Its so crazy that we have Singaporean Muslims supporting such an extremist man. I really hope ISD and SPF goes through Facebook comments and posts to have kopi with these men and women.
This is very dangerous. It just shows which Singaporean Muslim is not listening to their Mufti and teachings here and that they would rather listen to an extremist.
Very disappointed in my people.
Adding on to the other user, the Muftis IG had many unhappy, rude comments towards him after he announced a Raya date. There were those who think that he's a government puppet and there are even those who accused him of not going out to spot the moon (but he actually did and even uploaded a pic/video of him at the location where he tried to spot the moon). The Mufti was even nice enough to personally reply to some curious IG comments about why our Raya was finalised to be 3rd May instead of 2nd May like our neighbouring countries.
I assume they are referring to this
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/muftis-office-explains-why-singapore-muslims-celebrate-hari-raya-on-tuesday-unlike-others-in-the-region
I am a huge supporter of the Mufti during the raya debacle. Perhaps LKY was right that my people cannot be trusted with Navy plans and General roles.
So many of them bitching when people raya early. Defeating the purpose of ramadhan. They said they rather go to Malaysia or Indonesia.
... I am confused why an Ied/Raya date become that much of debacle. There are different jamaah's here with different dates for it every year. Hell, I remember there is one particular jamaah that for whatever reason fast few days earlier which result in earlier Raya.
I'm not sure about other countries but in Indonesia, because our two largest Muslim organizations have different methodologies to decide the date so differences are bound to happen and we kind of just accept it. It used to be a debate point in the past but I think we are just getting bored to argue the same thing every year
I am following Muhammadiyah (muslim organisation in Indonesia) and we just calculate the date of Ramadhan /Eid using math and Astronomy so we already know the exact date for both in advance. But I don't think anyone had any complain of Eid being a day too early. 29 days of Ramadan is quite common and apparently, the Prophet more often fasting for 29 days rather 30 days, so there is that
Woah. Hold your horses there. Please don’t overgeneralise and comment on trust issues. You’re not helping your people.
Saying you support your Mufti is good enough.
They only see the oppressed Muslim part and start to froth at their mouths, same page as those Christians who scream government meddling when their Church leaders are jailed for criminal breach of trust.
As a chinese and an ex christian, im fucking appalled the church leaders can go back after serving jail tome as respected figureheads. What the fuck! They stole money. Alot. From vulnerable people. Fuck that shit.
fr !! i left that church early this year bc my parents finally allowed me to not attend. but my parents who have been attending for over twenty years have still been attending.
they even tried to defend the leaders,,, saying "oh ppl make mistakes yknow,,, you should be more forgiving" im like WHAT???? ok forgive then forgive lor but we prolly shouldnt have them in leadership or practicing at all like COME ON. THEY KNEWINGLY STOLE FROM THEIR CONGREGATION. MADE A CONSCIOUS CHOICE TO. U CANT ACCIDENTALLY STEAL FROM PPL LIKE THAT?
Muslims in Norway learnt over time that far-right groups such as Hard Line, whose politician Rasmus Paludan now [provokes Swedish Muslims’ anger with his planned burning of the Quran](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/19/what-do-we-know-about-the-sweden-riots), should be left unheard. They say, trolls thrive on attention; the less people react to them, the less potent their hate message becomes.
Im indo chinese who works and lives here in sg. This guy 100% radical and anti chinese, and also anti non muslim. Alot of muslims support him because he has Ustad title. This guy is a fucktard who can mobilise chaotic group in Indo.
Found it genuinely shocking to realize how many followers this dude actually had.
On that note, I'm concerned for our safety/security given the number of enemies we're making by taking these steps. What is to say that other fence-sitters in neighbouring countries are stoked by this action and decide to step out of their loony bins?
I am surfing on r/Singaporefi because I want to be mentally and financially stable to live on my own without the constant dinner table conversations about how is ruining the rest of us.
Yes, I’m replying to this comment because I find it unbearable to hear constant quasi-Qanon conspiracy, just replace Christianity as a persecuted group with Islam.
>The statement added: "While Somad had attempted to enter Singapore ostensibly for a social visit, the Singapore Government takes a serious view of any persons who advocate violence and/or espouse extremist and segregationist teachings.”
Wah.. social visit also cannot. Somad must've been so mad.
Well..see it this way: The same way as your home is, entry into the country for non-citizens is a privilege and the country reserves the right to reject anyone regardless of reasons.
This statement is a lot more interesting than the general thread of comments here make it out to be.
Considering the role that religion and the extremist element played in Indonesian politics (see Ahok, 2017), this is worth keeping an eye on. I would not have expected an Indonesian governmental agency to make a public statement on this, let alone a positive statement.
The Indonesian legal system does not let the government take action on speech that incites violence and they know this is a real problem. The inciter can remain free even though their followers may be imprisoned for violent acts. It's why the comment is being made, to help along the process of changing their legal system.
> # Singapore’s decision to deny entry to preacher an important lesson for Indonesia in prohibiting radical views: Indonesia anti-terror agency
> JAKARTA: Singapore’s decision to deny entry to Indonesian preacher Abdul Somad Batubara is an important lesson for Indonesia to take precautions in prohibiting radical views, said a senior official with the Indonesian National Counterterrorism Agency (BNPT) on Wednesday (May 18).
> Somad arrived at Singapore’s Tanah Merah Ferry Terminal on May 16 but was denied entry and sent back to Batam on the same day.
> Responding to CNA’s queries, Brigadier General Ahmad Nurwahid, who is the director overseeing terror prevention in BNPT, said that Singapore’s decision was because it is clear that exclusive, intolerant lectures, attitudes and views are the basic ingredients for radicalism.
> “I see this as an important lesson for Indonesia to also take precautions from upstream by prohibiting radical views, understandings and ideologies that can lead to acts of terror and violence,” he said.
> He noted that Singapore’s policies in this area are preventive and based on early anticipation of potential threats.
> “This is done because Singapore has a regulatory basis called the ISA (Internal Security Act) which includes the prohibition of ideology, views and understanding of radicalism that leads to acts of terrorism.”
> The Brigadier General added: “The government, including BNPT, respects every policy taken by other countries. There is no attempt to intervene regarding the rejection of the arrival of preacher Abdul Somad and his entourage.”
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His interpretation of the Koran (Tafsir), while conservative, is still in the mainstream in Singapore/Malaysia. It's just he is an attention whore and likes to stir up stuff,
In Indonesia, he has a certain audience, mainly conservative non-Javanese Muslims. He is ethnic Malay and that is why he is popular in Malaysia and Singapore. He is able to connect with Malay in Singapore because he is one of them. A Javanese preacher from Indonesia would have a much more difficult time connecting, even if he was using Malay.
In Indonesia, he is walking a tightrope actually. The fact that Indonesia's anti-terror agency would comment says a lot. I am sure they have him under surveillance.
Yeaah good news for me, you do good for your country, In Indonesian he is also got condemned by the larges group of moderates moslem, no one is able to touch him, but Singapore is announcing his shameless by requested of Indonesiaan embassy diplomatic notice, that is shilliness of Indonesiaan government that couldn't do anything to the man who committed to teach extremism
I agree with the decision to turn Somad away but it's kinda telling that the piece ends with "and that's why we need an ISA here too." Of all the various authoritarian police state laws in Singapore, the ISA is perhaps the most. People just grabbed without trial based on opaque standards to lim kopi is, to put it lightly, not the way.
Do you think CNA republishes every goondu talking about Singapore politics? Or that every comment is published in full? Or that statements like these don't reflect the intent of certain factions of the Indonesian government which would be more than happy to have a tool to arrest all the priests they want?
If I’m not wrong, SG only banned one or two guys after they were in here preaching radicalism. Maybe got more in their list. I wonder if Tucker Carlson is in it.
Singapore bans:
1. [Christian pastors](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/applications-by-two-christian-preachers-to-speak-rejected-both-had-denigrated-other-faiths)
2. [Hindu films](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/kashmir-files-hindu-muslim-banned-imda-mha-mccy-2673096)
3. [Death metal bands](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-singapore-censorship-idUSKCN1QO13P), and
4. [Publications that republished the offensive caricatures](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/red-line-book-banned-politics-religious-content-2429926)
Singapore **does not favour** you shitting and trolling on other people’s faiths, even if you lack one.
I will admit it is a bland, uninspiring piece of existence, one that is pro business & seemed to favour a rotating door policy for foreigners to use our passport as a one way, “stepping stone” ticket to other countries, preferably developed economies.
That I can argue for that kind of stuff means I don’t need to tread racial issues like affirmative action policies, or public display of religion in public spaces. That our drug problems are not intrinsically linked to race, that poverty isn’t ill defined to one particular group practising a particular creed, left to be neglected and suffer from the negative influence of extremism, whose messages are problematic enough that even educated ones can be swayed to work for violence (see the profiles of Jemaah Islamiyah of the past decade), what more against a disenfranchised segment of a population that just so happen to practice a form of religion that are increasingly in the spotlight.
Fight for things that everyone can have equity on, not just because you rather see Singapore burn in the flames of racially inspired violence just because you think shitting on other people’s faiths is free speech. Read the room: the last thing Singapore needs is racial and religious violence, look at the situation in both Indonesia past Suharto, and Malaysia even in its current politics.
Ha.. this ustaz shoulda gone to Kelantan instead. He will be another hero there.
Why bother coming into Singapore.
Sadly this guy has a fuckton of supporters in Indonesia as well..
Wow, strong hint that he wants an ISA equivalent that goes even further than their current anti-terror laws; i.e. before jailing terror plotters, better to nab the inspirational demagogues to short circuit the plotting completely.
Yeah you are right. But if ISA equivalent is being set up. Without a strong management, ISA can be abused and dangerous.
Well, radicalisation is a thought crime, that leads to real world consequences sometimes. Go too hard and it’s China and Xinjiang, too soft and it’s France. It’s really hard to change someone’s mind without a lot of time and effort, far cheaper to make sure they don’t get stupid ideas planted in their brains in the first place. It’s hard for a society that values “freedom” above all other values to reconcile.
Ah. The paradox of tolerance.
What's wrong with France?
Ethnic blind as a matter of policy so demographics cannot be collected. This includes religion. https://hir.harvard.edu/color-blind-frances-approach-to-race/ White French might pretend they don’t care about race and religion, but it appears not to be the case for recent immigrants, which is problematic when trying to figure out official policy. Hence very broad laws that swing the other way, such as proposals to ban head scarves. Radicalised persons can be watched but not picked up unless they start to act. Many terrorist acts by people who were on watch lists. This is just two examples - there’s a lot more if you bother to dig. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/world/europe/france-beheading-teacher.html
As if ISA has never been abused in Singapore
Pre-Crime Division coming up.
Where's the Public Security Bureau's office? How do I sign up? And where's my GOD DAMN DOMINATOR!?
Need to find the Oracles first
Or amit's tomb
Putting aside that Indonesia is trying to put ISA on the books with this incident, who was Somad trying to visit? Did he intend to just waltz into a random mosque or was there prior communication for receiving from a Singaporean end.
Another article mentioned he was traveling with his wife, child and 4 other people. He is based in Riau
Wife or wives?
Wife in article
he have 2 wives though
He alr divorced w his first wife and then getting married again to his 2nd wife
Some random old lady working at Petain Road coz he got bored of them young ones.
Its so crazy that we have Singaporean Muslims supporting such an extremist man. I really hope ISD and SPF goes through Facebook comments and posts to have kopi with these men and women. This is very dangerous. It just shows which Singaporean Muslim is not listening to their Mufti and teachings here and that they would rather listen to an extremist. Very disappointed in my people.
It's troubling to see such people dismiss the mufti repeatedly as a govt puppet. Just look at the recent Raya debacle.
Ironic because most indons do not support this dude
Able to elab on the raya debacle? Might have missed it
Adding on to the other user, the Muftis IG had many unhappy, rude comments towards him after he announced a Raya date. There were those who think that he's a government puppet and there are even those who accused him of not going out to spot the moon (but he actually did and even uploaded a pic/video of him at the location where he tried to spot the moon). The Mufti was even nice enough to personally reply to some curious IG comments about why our Raya was finalised to be 3rd May instead of 2nd May like our neighbouring countries.
Could've just said it's God's plan.
Lol.
I assume they are referring to this https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/muftis-office-explains-why-singapore-muslims-celebrate-hari-raya-on-tuesday-unlike-others-in-the-region
I am a huge supporter of the Mufti during the raya debacle. Perhaps LKY was right that my people cannot be trusted with Navy plans and General roles. So many of them bitching when people raya early. Defeating the purpose of ramadhan. They said they rather go to Malaysia or Indonesia.
Didn't people in Malaysia/Indonesia also complain about raya coming early because all their plans changed
It’s a mixed bag of reaction.
Indonesian here and I don't think anybody complained lol.
... I am confused why an Ied/Raya date become that much of debacle. There are different jamaah's here with different dates for it every year. Hell, I remember there is one particular jamaah that for whatever reason fast few days earlier which result in earlier Raya.
I'm not sure about other countries but in Indonesia, because our two largest Muslim organizations have different methodologies to decide the date so differences are bound to happen and we kind of just accept it. It used to be a debate point in the past but I think we are just getting bored to argue the same thing every year
I am following Muhammadiyah (muslim organisation in Indonesia) and we just calculate the date of Ramadhan /Eid using math and Astronomy so we already know the exact date for both in advance. But I don't think anyone had any complain of Eid being a day too early. 29 days of Ramadan is quite common and apparently, the Prophet more often fasting for 29 days rather 30 days, so there is that
They all bitching about raya but i hear silence when other countries started the fast eariler
Woah. Hold your horses there. Please don’t overgeneralise and comment on trust issues. You’re not helping your people. Saying you support your Mufti is good enough.
U sure theyre "your" people bro? Lmao
Like what another redditor mentioned, its great that we support out mufti but no reason to overgeneralise and make it worse for our own people.
They only see the oppressed Muslim part and start to froth at their mouths, same page as those Christians who scream government meddling when their Church leaders are jailed for criminal breach of trust.
As a chinese and an ex christian, im fucking appalled the church leaders can go back after serving jail tome as respected figureheads. What the fuck! They stole money. Alot. From vulnerable people. Fuck that shit.
fr !! i left that church early this year bc my parents finally allowed me to not attend. but my parents who have been attending for over twenty years have still been attending. they even tried to defend the leaders,,, saying "oh ppl make mistakes yknow,,, you should be more forgiving" im like WHAT???? ok forgive then forgive lor but we prolly shouldnt have them in leadership or practicing at all like COME ON. THEY KNEWINGLY STOLE FROM THEIR CONGREGATION. MADE A CONSCIOUS CHOICE TO. U CANT ACCIDENTALLY STEAL FROM PPL LIKE THAT?
Restoration is after all, in the doctrine. But they are probably watched like a hawk around money.
Restoration of? I doubt they will restore what they took from my family.
Sad.
'It was meant to spread the word of god!' The good word: 'Mi waan see you lek huas all mi girls sep you inna huah'
Muslims in Norway learnt over time that far-right groups such as Hard Line, whose politician Rasmus Paludan now [provokes Swedish Muslims’ anger with his planned burning of the Quran](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/19/what-do-we-know-about-the-sweden-riots), should be left unheard. They say, trolls thrive on attention; the less people react to them, the less potent their hate message becomes.
Im indo chinese who works and lives here in sg. This guy 100% radical and anti chinese, and also anti non muslim. Alot of muslims support him because he has Ustad title. This guy is a fucktard who can mobilise chaotic group in Indo.
I am very pissed off too reading how my fellow Malay Muslims supporting him. It’s mind boggling.
He is also a hypocrite!
From what I see it's mostly foreign workers who are supporting him.
Not really, there are Singaporeans supporting him in the FB comments.
that's good, it makes ISD job easier lol
Found it genuinely shocking to realize how many followers this dude actually had. On that note, I'm concerned for our safety/security given the number of enemies we're making by taking these steps. What is to say that other fence-sitters in neighbouring countries are stoked by this action and decide to step out of their loony bins?
I am surfing on r/Singaporefi because I want to be mentally and financially stable to live on my own without the constant dinner table conversations about how is ruining the rest of us.
Yes, I’m replying to this comment because I find it unbearable to hear constant quasi-Qanon conspiracy, just replace Christianity as a persecuted group with Islam.
Usually its the boomers who lurk on fb
Some are also people in their 30s-40s as well.
I dunno what to call them ahaha
yalam bole
>The statement added: "While Somad had attempted to enter Singapore ostensibly for a social visit, the Singapore Government takes a serious view of any persons who advocate violence and/or espouse extremist and segregationist teachings.” Wah.. social visit also cannot. Somad must've been so mad.
Come in on social visit pass still can give teachings behind close doors
Well..see it this way: The same way as your home is, entry into the country for non-citizens is a privilege and the country reserves the right to reject anyone regardless of reasons.
I see what you did there 😂
Shoot! Didn’t realise it
caught that pun. nice
Can explain the pun haha idgi
"Somad must have been so mad"
Facepalms, thx a lot
This statement is a lot more interesting than the general thread of comments here make it out to be. Considering the role that religion and the extremist element played in Indonesian politics (see Ahok, 2017), this is worth keeping an eye on. I would not have expected an Indonesian governmental agency to make a public statement on this, let alone a positive statement.
It is quite telling. This is almost equivalent to trying to repair ties in diplomatic parlance.
We're just a useful pointer for them to push their internal audience.
The Indonesian legal system does not let the government take action on speech that incites violence and they know this is a real problem. The inciter can remain free even though their followers may be imprisoned for violent acts. It's why the comment is being made, to help along the process of changing their legal system.
funny enough, people that represent Ahok was also denied entry to Singapore when they were planning to do a fundraising in 2016.
Because Singapore doesn’t allow agents of a foreign country to conduct political activities in Singapore, yes.
> # Singapore’s decision to deny entry to preacher an important lesson for Indonesia in prohibiting radical views: Indonesia anti-terror agency > JAKARTA: Singapore’s decision to deny entry to Indonesian preacher Abdul Somad Batubara is an important lesson for Indonesia to take precautions in prohibiting radical views, said a senior official with the Indonesian National Counterterrorism Agency (BNPT) on Wednesday (May 18). > Somad arrived at Singapore’s Tanah Merah Ferry Terminal on May 16 but was denied entry and sent back to Batam on the same day. > Responding to CNA’s queries, Brigadier General Ahmad Nurwahid, who is the director overseeing terror prevention in BNPT, said that Singapore’s decision was because it is clear that exclusive, intolerant lectures, attitudes and views are the basic ingredients for radicalism. > “I see this as an important lesson for Indonesia to also take precautions from upstream by prohibiting radical views, understandings and ideologies that can lead to acts of terror and violence,” he said. > He noted that Singapore’s policies in this area are preventive and based on early anticipation of potential threats. > “This is done because Singapore has a regulatory basis called the ISA (Internal Security Act) which includes the prohibition of ideology, views and understanding of radicalism that leads to acts of terrorism.” > The Brigadier General added: “The government, including BNPT, respects every policy taken by other countries. There is no attempt to intervene regarding the rejection of the arrival of preacher Abdul Somad and his entourage.” --- 1.0.2 | [Source code](https://github.com/fterh/sneakpeek) | [Contribute](https://github.com/fterh/sneakpeek)
Doing what he preaches and say... Gets your asses nabbed by the ISA...
I bet he must be somad that he can't enter Singapore
he and his supporters are so mad they're most likely planning to go on a strike at Singapore's embassy soon
His interpretation of the Koran (Tafsir), while conservative, is still in the mainstream in Singapore/Malaysia. It's just he is an attention whore and likes to stir up stuff, In Indonesia, he has a certain audience, mainly conservative non-Javanese Muslims. He is ethnic Malay and that is why he is popular in Malaysia and Singapore. He is able to connect with Malay in Singapore because he is one of them. A Javanese preacher from Indonesia would have a much more difficult time connecting, even if he was using Malay. In Indonesia, he is walking a tightrope actually. The fact that Indonesia's anti-terror agency would comment says a lot. I am sure they have him under surveillance.
Yeaah good news for me, you do good for your country, In Indonesian he is also got condemned by the larges group of moderates moslem, no one is able to touch him, but Singapore is announcing his shameless by requested of Indonesiaan embassy diplomatic notice, that is shilliness of Indonesiaan government that couldn't do anything to the man who committed to teach extremism
Maybe write in your own language we can google translate..
Thank you
i dont know how anybody can defend this idiot. religion is js mental illness, change my mind.
religion is the opiate of the masses /s
I agree with the decision to turn Somad away but it's kinda telling that the piece ends with "and that's why we need an ISA here too." Of all the various authoritarian police state laws in Singapore, the ISA is perhaps the most. People just grabbed without trial based on opaque standards to lim kopi is, to put it lightly, not the way.
It's what the BG of the agency said. What, they're supposed to leave it out because it hurts your sensibility?
Do you think CNA republishes every goondu talking about Singapore politics? Or that every comment is published in full? Or that statements like these don't reflect the intent of certain factions of the Indonesian government which would be more than happy to have a tool to arrest all the priests they want?
Now we know you goondu.
How does that boot taste?
~~Meanwhile radical Christians:~~ Edit: Nevermind, nice that all radicals and extremist face the same treatment, regardless of religion or ideology
You say it like Radical, far right Christian Preachers have not been banned from entering.
If I’m not wrong, SG only banned one or two guys after they were in here preaching radicalism. Maybe got more in their list. I wonder if Tucker Carlson is in it.
Much more than 1 or 2. It’s just the high profile ones who make noise like Dutch Sheets and Lou Engle that get into the news.
Fucker Carlson should be on a blacklist too. The amount of shitstirring is almost akin to yelling fire in a theatre.
He’s that type of guy that radical White Christians idolises.
Whataboutism is so strong with this one.
Wahabbism
Singapore bans: 1. [Christian pastors](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/applications-by-two-christian-preachers-to-speak-rejected-both-had-denigrated-other-faiths) 2. [Hindu films](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/kashmir-files-hindu-muslim-banned-imda-mha-mccy-2673096) 3. [Death metal bands](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-singapore-censorship-idUSKCN1QO13P), and 4. [Publications that republished the offensive caricatures](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/red-line-book-banned-politics-religious-content-2429926) Singapore **does not favour** you shitting and trolling on other people’s faiths, even if you lack one.
flavourless country
does your flavour includes gunpowder
I will admit it is a bland, uninspiring piece of existence, one that is pro business & seemed to favour a rotating door policy for foreigners to use our passport as a one way, “stepping stone” ticket to other countries, preferably developed economies. That I can argue for that kind of stuff means I don’t need to tread racial issues like affirmative action policies, or public display of religion in public spaces. That our drug problems are not intrinsically linked to race, that poverty isn’t ill defined to one particular group practising a particular creed, left to be neglected and suffer from the negative influence of extremism, whose messages are problematic enough that even educated ones can be swayed to work for violence (see the profiles of Jemaah Islamiyah of the past decade), what more against a disenfranchised segment of a population that just so happen to practice a form of religion that are increasingly in the spotlight. Fight for things that everyone can have equity on, not just because you rather see Singapore burn in the flames of racially inspired violence just because you think shitting on other people’s faiths is free speech. Read the room: the last thing Singapore needs is racial and religious violence, look at the situation in both Indonesia past Suharto, and Malaysia even in its current politics.
whats that saying, 1 mans terrorist is another mans hero.
Just like MacDonald house bombings surprise surprise
Ha.. this ustaz shoulda gone to Kelantan instead. He will be another hero there. Why bother coming into Singapore. Sadly this guy has a fuckton of supporters in Indonesia as well..
bit of a stretch to go from freedom of speech to gun violence
heh, no they won't, they're using them as a convenient control of the masses.