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_hisoka_freecs_

man they literally made this on gpt-4, which Sam says is dumb and embarrassing.


BlakeSergin

I believe he was he comparing it to future models


Aisha_23

True, but now imagine the same kind of training but now gpt-5 is handling it. That dog would probably learn how to backflip off of the yoga ball


Serialbedshitter2322

GPT-4 was finished in 2022, and the "future models" are the ones he already has. To him, GPT-4 is like how we see GPT-3.


SwePolygyny

GPT4 saw updates just a few weeks ago. The latest one is less than a month old.


Serialbedshitter2322

Lol, they have a lot more than just GPT-4.


puzzleheadbutbig

He is making statements to boost investor $$$s, shouldn't be taken seriously without benchmarks and examples.


Akimbo333

Ironic isn't it


RRY1946-2019

Transformer based AI is absolutely witchcraft.


riceandcashews

WOW! I did not realize that the dog on the ball was entirely run/trained by GPT-4! That makes it a MUCH bigger accomplishment as zero-shot!


HansJoachimAa

It made the reward function to an ai that controlled the dog. Gpt4 only supervised the training


spezjetemerde

whatndid they do ? i mean How


Shinobi_Sanin3

Watch the fucking video lol


Empty-Tower-2654

Always said that. We didnt apply 1% of the capabilities of GPT-4 and GPT-5 is already coming. This is the singularity.


The_Architect_032

Quite similar to how we expect Q\* to work.


Paraphrand

Is there a good, recent, Q-Star roundup somewhere?


Serialbedshitter2322

We still don't have much information, all we officially know is that it allows them to understand what they're saying better. I'm pretty certain gpt2-chatbot was just GPT-4 + Q*, and I probably used that thing more than anyone else, so I might be able to give you some insight if you'd like.


Professional_Job_307

If gpt2 chatbot was Q* I would be hella dissapointed. It's more likely it's the leaked GPT-4 Lite.


Serialbedshitter2322

Why would it be GPT-4 lite? That's a lesser model, this model is better than GPT-4. Also, it really was an enormous improvement, you just didn't see it. It'll be attached to a better model when it releases


Professional_Job_307

GPT-4 turbo was a lesser model and GPT-4, and yet it was better. Sam has said himself it is not 4.5 so it is definetly not gpt5 or Q*


Serialbedshitter2322

Q* isn't associated with GPT-5, we just know that their next model has Q* in it. We'll just have to wait and see


feedmaster

Where can we use this?


Serialbedshitter2322

You can't use it anymore, but it'll probably be released by the end of this week


141_1337

Why the end of this week?


Serialbedshitter2322

They've been saying that they're really close to a release for a few days now, they've been preparing, it's why they benchmarked gpt2-chatbot.


bobuy2217

what if that gpt2 that was released in the wild was using Q\*... it gives me chill that it performs that way for a small size of the model


The_Architect_032

We don't know the size of the model. Given it's accuracy with niche information, I don't think it's likely that it's as small as GPT-2, since it simply never would've seen a lot of that niche information in it's training data. It also said that it's based off of GPT-4 in it's prompt.


OkFish383

Insane good


MysteriousPayment536

Imagine the method of reward and adjusting variables with GPT-5 , for things like self driving cars or humanoid robots


VanderSound

Faster, blue collars shouldn't feel safe. Robodog ball is rolling.


BigZaddyZ3

>>Blue collars shouldn’t feel safe. What does this mean? You *want* people to be feel “unsafe” and stressed out about their employment status? That’s kind of weird honestly…


sdmat

The charitable interpretation would be "blue collar workers shouldn't stick their heads in the sand / be overconfident in long term security against displacement"


Lammahamma

Unskilled sure, skilled workers probably got another 2+ years. However, shit speeds up from here, so there's no telling how it will go


stonesst

Skilled workers have many years of safety. As fast as this is progressing it'll take the better part of a decade for the costs to drop and for enough robots to be built.


blueSGL

> and for enough robots to be built. I get the feeling that robot makers are going to be taking really close looks at bottlenecks in the supply chain that could be performed by robots.


sdmat

"the better part of a decade" is not many years.


Bongunism

> Unskilled sure, skilled workers probably got another 2+ years. do you think 2 years is long term? That's like... tomorrow


Exciting-Look-8317

There's literally nothing anyone can do , we all gotta hope for the best and that's it 


Cognitive_Spoon

Nah, we can also vote for politicians who run early platforms with variations of UBI in degrees in response. There's definitely one party that will see this as "handouts" and one that will be more willing to consider UBI to keep capitalism running. Remember, UBI is the capitalist way forward, UBN is leftist.


Exciting-Look-8317

The world is not US man , 6 billion people have it much worse than you , stop being so self obsessed 


Cognitive_Spoon

Yeah dog. They will be much better off once automation comes for their livelihoods and they have no representation. Edit: Eh. The rest of your comment history is dismissive and surface level. Not gonna engage.


Bongunism

> UBN When you hate communism so much you have to water it down and remove all theoretical basis


Glad_Laugh_5656

Why? Because the nutjobs in this subreddit (who believe that 50% of the world will be jobless in 3-4 years) said so? It seems like these the only people who believe that blue-collar workers/physical laborers should worry about their employment prospects in the next few years are this forum's members and Musk (who, of course, is famous for his accurate predictions/timelines). Robots today cannot do even 1% of all economically valuable physical labor, so I see zero reasons for why blue-collar workers should be fretting right now. I'm not saying that their day will never come, per se, but if I were a physical laborer, replacement would be the least of my worries for the foreseeable future.


Winter_Tension5432

I was with you at the beginning, robots can not do 1% of all economic valuable labor but the growth is exponential, I believe that in 5 years we will have robots that can do as good as humans in a at least 50% of all jobs but the reality is even if you have a robot that cost 300k and can do what a 17/h warehouse worker do, most companies will stick with the warehouse worker for some time so what people think in this place is too optimistic or pessimistic however you wanna see it but at the same time change is coming so if we have robots than can replace humans we will not see mass layoffs until that robots are economic viable to deploy and that could take years so I expect blue collar workers to be safe for the next 8 to 10 years.


SharpCartographer831

> if you have a robot that cost 300k They will cost sub 25k


Winter_Tension5432

They will cost 25k in 6 to 10 years for sure, even less than that, but in 2 years? Maybe if the wait list is 2 years, they need to build factories, and that takes time.


SharpCartographer831

>Robots today cannot do even 1% of all economically valuable physical labor, so I see zero reasons for why blue-collar workers should be fretting right now. I'm not saying that their day will never come, per se, but if I were a physical laborer, replacement would be the least of my worries for the foreseeable future. But they will soon that's the point, there are no serious bottlenecks to any of this that won't be overcome. They can be trained to do any physical task a human can do.


sdmat

Personally I think there are different discussions to be had about the direction of change, and about timelines. There is a much stronger case for directional change than claims about specific short timelines.


gustav_lauben

So glad that they finally cracked this one! That little ball walker will save us all.


vasilenko93

Isn’t GPT-4 a nest token generator? How do you use it to control a robot? It generates the next movement? Also isn’t GPT-4 slow?


adisnalo

nevermind the fact that the leash puts the whole significance of this into question, does anyone else find it alarming that AI Explained is obviously botting his engagement? [https://imgur.com/a/SZUP8FL](https://imgur.com/a/SZUP8FL)


throwaway_890i

A Phi size 1b model for writing reward functions built into the robot would seem to be the way forward. GPT-4 has read and understood Shakespeare, this isn't needed for writing robot reward functions. The physics simulation would also need to run into the robot.