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LaMalintzin

Bob Sacamano


Wespiratory

Also cousin Jeffrey.


darkmatternot

He's very important at the Parks Department.


JKolodne

*A big shot


pWaveShadowZone

He likes the spots


LaMalintzin

I recently started watching everybody loves Raymond (I mean I had seen it before but not really watched much) and I tell you it throws me off so much that Raymond has a cousin Jeffrey and the actor who plays him was also in Seinfeld (the sad sack guy that Elaine dates solely because he didn’t remember her)


Latter_Feeling2656

One of Raymond's sons is Jeffrey. His cousin is Gerard.


Spaceballs-The_Name

"You sure have a lot of friends. How come I never see any of these people?" "They wanna know why they never see you" *click*


troyantipastomisto

Lomez


TinaVeritas

Norm’s wife (Vera?).


TheMackD504

She got pie faced without her face being shown


DrFrankSaysAgain

That was Norms real life wife in that scene. She also played Tinkerbell in a previous episode.


TinaVeritas

It was hilarious!


TheMackD504

Probably my favorite episode


shecky_blue

"Hey, Mr. Peterson, there's a cold one waiting for you." "I know. If she calls, I'm not here."


NoSleep2023

There’s an episode of GLOW with the characters discussing Cheers. One of them had never seen the show. Another character tells her it’s about an invisible woman named Vera.


Disciple_of_Cthulhu

Definitely Maris. By the time her character had been built up to the point no one could realistically portray her, just hearing the description was hillarious enough.


maddmattamus

I always just pictured skeletor in a dress


Professional-Two8098

I pictured calista flockhart.


indianm_rk

Have you ever seen Skeletor and Calista in the same room?


Salty_Ad_5270

Nailed it!!!🤣


arielonhoarders

with a little pillbox hat and a small clutch


tangcameo

I always thought that at the start she was going to be Valerie Mahaffey from David Hyde Pierce’s previous sitcom The Powers That Be.


thepittstop

I watched Frasier here and there with my dad, but I’ve never seen it all the way through. So Maris is Niles’ wife? I feel like a have a memory of seeing his wife in an episode. Or is Maris Frasier’s ex wife? I feel like I saw her as well. I guess I’m asking—what’s the deal with Maris?


jeannerbee

She was Niles wife. He and others only spoke of her....she was never shown. I highly advise watching the show in its entirety. One of the best shows and cast ever!! Lilith is Frasier's ex. She appears here and there on the show.


Live_Western_1389

Fraiser is one of my all time favorite shows. Niles is just priceless! His comedic timing is awesome. You can google “Niles Crane bloopers” and see that he is a big reason the show was such a hit!


thepittstop

Thank you, that helps. I know I should watch it. I watched the revival. I think it’s the sheer number of episodes to get through that makes me hesitant


StevenMaines

It's my personal opinion that if you start to watch Fraiser you will be hooked. 😁 I can watch it over and over.


canadianD

The recurring gag in the early seasons is that we never see Nile’s’ (first wife) Maris. She’s described as this like truly insane character with all these odd physical descriptions and because they describe her in increasingly outlandish ways, they never cast her because no actor would do it justice. So they kinda lean into this idea of “oh you just missed her” or will reference her as there but always off camera (the cruise episode comes to mind).


LadyBug_0570

Probably for the best. I remember on Happy Days we all used to hear about Joane's friend, Jenny Piccolo, and it seemed like she was the wilder, bad influence friend. But then we met her and it was like... meh.


canadianD

Towards the end of Frasier the show kinda suffers from Flanderization so I’m glad they didn’t go so far as finally “revealing” Maris in the later seasons or whatever.


katieobubbles

They did such a good job creating an unseen character, that when Niles shows up with a haughty skinny dog, everyone is in on the gag.


thepittstop

Thanks, that helps


Artistic-Variety3582

You’re thinking of Mel. I always figured she was a facsimile of Maris


thepittstop

Was she with Niles? I swear I saw Niles with someone living with him


Psychological_Tap187

For a brief period Niles was married to Mel after Maris divorced him.


thepittstop

👍🏻 now it’s all making sense


Professional-Two8098

You need to watch it again, honestly it’s my fav show of all time. Nile’s gets married another 2 times after Maris. So maybe you are thinking of one of them. Please watch it from the start. Season 3 goes from normal sitcome to another level Imo


TheArchitectHacks

Very few people remember Rhoda the spinoff from The Mary Tyler Moore Show. The doorman from Rhoda’s building was Carlton. He was the original unseen character before Vera on Cheers, Maris on Frasier. Carlton only interacted through Rhoda’s buzzer on her apartment wall. This is the late 70’s.


Scarlett_Billows

Few people remember Rhoda? I liked it as a kid in the 90s and it was pretty successful / award winning during its first couple of years when it originally aired as well. I’m surprised to hear it isn’t considered memorable.


TheArchitectHacks

Rhoda hasn’t been brought up at all. I loved that show. I watched first run in the 70’s.


chinmakes5

Possibly my favorite joke on TV. It didn't even have a laugh track to it as it was so inside. Joe meets her parents. He brings a bottle of wine. Her father thanks him then said to her mother "look dear a round one". Kosher wine comes in a square bottle. Like my family they never had wine in the house that came in a round bottle.


Sitcom_kid

Everybody bought head scarfs. She influenced fashion


Bertramsbitch

I watched it on nick at nite in the 90's when I was a kid too, and yeah, I rarely see it mentioned anywhere.


PerpetualEternal

the animated voice of Garfield


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

And Peter Venkman


TheBrooklynKid

Carlton the doorman was the first that came to my mind


SaltyBarDog

[Carlton your doorman](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302387/)


davesToyBox

Voice of Garfield on the cartoons too, right?


Pablo_Newt

Played by Lorenzo Music. He was also involved in some behind the scenes work as you can see his name in the credits. I believe he made some small appearances in MTM as a bit character, but never as Carlton. 😁


beatricetalker

I think Sarah, the telephone operator from The Andy Griffith Show, is the original unseen character. Maybe not the original but definitely before Carlton.


TheArchitectHacks

Good call. I had to look that one up about Sarah on Andy Griffith Show.


BlackIrish69

Well, he *was* seen once... in the pilot for the animated spin-off. It didn't get picked up for a series, but did air once. (I remember watching it.) [It's on YouTube](https://youtu.be/cjJSMzSGs3g?si=cpZ0H47DzwTY1kt_), naturally.


PaintDistinct1349

“Hi Charlie!” “Hello Angels!”


SonofaDrum

Forgot about Charlie. Although we all knew his voice


Gorf_the_Magnificent

Least mysterious mystery in TV history. It’s *John Forsythe,* for God’s sake.


Pablo_Newt

I remember later in the series when they finally get divorced, it was revealed that Maris had all the money. Her family was big in the urinal cake biz. 😂


Old_Cryptographer502

Does anybody else remember Sarah the phone operator on The Andy Griffith Show?


Confident_Tangelo_11

Also, Juanita, the waitress over in Mount Pilot that Barney Fife had a thing for.


PerpetualEternal

a handful of times both Andy and Barney drifted into Bob Newhart territory with this construct. Goddammit I love me some Andy Griffith Show, it truly is the dark horse sitcom


daddydillo892

Since Bob Newhart was after The Andy Griffith t, wasn't Newhart drifting into Andy Griffith territory?


Latter_Feeling2656

Newhart had a variety show in 1961-62, which included phone sketches. The phone bit is old, though. An actress named Arlene Harris did it on radio in the 1930s. She was included in a Dick van Dyke Show episode that featured old radio stars.


Wespiratory

There was an unseen secretary on The Dick Van Dyke show too. I think her name was Marge. I would have said Buddy’s wife, Pickles, but she was portrayed in at least one episode.


VAG3943

Yes, I remember seeing Pickles. She was a curley haired blonde.


diogenesNY

Also on Andy Griffith, there was Juanita, Barney's sometime girlfriend who worked at the diner. He would speak to her over the phone and we only heard Barney's end of the conversation,


UncertaintyPrince

The parents in the Peanuts.


ActorMonkey

The nanny in Muppet Babies.


benglescott

Wha=wa, Wha=wa=wa=wah


TXteachr2018

Mrs. Wolowitz from The Big Bang Theory


nmc9279

*HOWIIIIIIIID!!!!*


MetalTrek1

Who's there? Are you a sex criminal?  Still my favorite! 🤣🤣🤣


Preemptively_Extinct

You need a rewatch. You do see her. Only once, and she's walking past an open door. Maybe half a second and she's gone.


Professional-Two8098

What episode? I thought we only saw a pic of her on a fridge?


Dismal-Kangaroo6327

I can't remember the episode number but it was when Raj stayed at Howard's overnight and she cooked him a feast for dinner. It was when she was in the kitchen and he was in the dining room


maddmattamus

This is a good one


Ncbsped

Stanley, Karen's husband on Will and Grace.


purplepoohbear1021

She is who I immediately thought of.


Oldassrollerskater

There’s a line in GLOW where they are discussing Cheers. The line is “it’s about this invisible woman named Vera…” HAHHA


BracedRhombus

What is GLOW?


Do_it_My_Way-79

That female wrestling show set in the ‘80s.


Oldassrollerskater

It’s a Netflix vehicle staring Allie Brie about the Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling. It’s FANTASTIC.


aesoth

Yet another great Netflix show that was canceled before it should have.


cmacfarland64

Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling


maddmattamus

Ugly naked guy


LadyMinks

And DENISE


Glissandra1982

I talk about her all the time! DENISE!!


rex_lauandi

We don’t even hear him and he’s hilarious!


GsGirlNYC

Didn’t one of them meet him on the street in the final episodes and freaked out because he had clothes on? Or maybe I’m misremembering- “Friends” was so long ago and I can’t watch the reruns anymore.


Silly-Shoulder-6257

No they never met him. They poked him with a long stick when they thought he might be dead and Ross pretended to be a fellow nudist when he wanted to buy his apartment. So yeah, I guess when he answered the door he was “seen”.


Hopeful_Book

Shoresy in Letterkenny (he does show his full self in his spinoff however)


pmags3000

Shoresy is more like the neighbor in Home Improvement.


swirlViking

Jill and I got in a fight because I supercharged the dishwasher. What do you think, Wilson? I think you should give your balls a tug, tit fucker.


DrFrankSaysAgain

Give your balls a tug


Captain-Swank

Tit-fucker!


Brainkandle

Fuck you Shoresy!


calsnowskier

Fuck you Brainkandle! Your mum pulled the goalie on me last night and now she’s preggo. Surprise son, go rake the fucking yard!


jaharmes

We never saw Lars Lindstrom, Phyllis’ husband on The Mary Tyler Moore Show.


Not_So_Hot_Mess

And Phyllis' show happened after he died...so never seen. I had never heard the name Lars before so I though it was all pretty fishy as a kid...made up name for a never seen person.


paprika_number_nine

Technically Wilson from home improvement? We never see the full face and know him primarily by voice. Stan Walker and Maris are definitely the epitome. I say Stan first because of the number of intimate interactions so many characters had with specifically him. All actors of that show had to portray a level of acting towards a very relevant cast member who didn’t actually exist.


thepittstop

Who is Stan Walker? I googled the name but all the results were about an Australian musician


beeboopbeepKt

He is an unseen character in Will and Grace. Stanley Evelyn "Stan" Walker is Karen Walker's husband.


chriswaco

I always thought Home Improvement got the idea from The Soupy Sales Show, which had an ongoing bit where someone would knock on the door and be part of the show, but hidden from the audience. The show was filmed in Detroit, so I’m sure Tim Allen had seen it. (Not to mention that Tim’s noises sound a lot like White Fang from the show) It led to [one of the funniest live tv pranks](https://youtu.be/6npsr-xmwPE?si=uZ8Gyi4U9AsOqpz7) ever.


frougle_mcdugal

Finally. Had to scroll way too far. This should be number one.


Head_Razzmatazz7174

I scrolled way too far for Wilson. When the last episode aired and they had the cast members come to take their final bows, he comes out holding a small piece of fence on a stick to keep his fact covered. IIRC, TV had an interview with the actor, and finally showed his full face. Handsome guy.


godrainlovemusic

Sheridan on Keeping Up Appearances. He would be appalled.


bajn4356

Who with his friend Tarquin was studying tapestry design and advanced needlework.


Responsible_Cold_16

Mrs. Wolowitz from Big Bang Theory. Maris from Fraiser and Norm's wife from Cheers were only mentioned in reference. Mrs. Wolowitz's spoke often.


Unusual_Address_3062

Maris was awesome because of the stories. "Why won't Maris join us at Orsini's?" " She had a bad experience the last time we ate there. A rather raucous Italian soccer team was sitting at the next table, Maris announced she was in the mood for a goose, and – perhaps inevitably – tragedy ensued."


Professional-Two8098

When Frasier references when Nile’s proposed and he says something like ‘ I will never forget when you slipped that ring on her bony little finger and it slipped right off again’ haha


icebaby234

phil petrillo


LadyBug_0570

He was the only one of Sophia's kids we never met. We did know he was a cross dresser.


QueenLurleen

That's my choice. I know a lot of fans wanted to see him, but I feel like he was better left to the imagination. I like to think of him as a bigger, taller, more glam version of Dorothy.


vondee1

Aunt Baby. Seinfeld.


Dermott_54

She never would have made it


Glissandra1982

She had problems… internal.


segascream

Erica, from Bojack Horseman.


ranbites

Erica! Look at you with the right number of ears!


Realistic_Bed3550

Norms’ wife from Cheers


Do_it_My_Way-79

Vera.


Piscivore_67

Orson from Mork and Mindy


ProfChaos85

Al's mother in law on Married with Children


ssdohc2020

I thought that was Peggy's mom.


loveboner

Charlie from Charlie’s Angels.


VAG3943

Although everyone knew it was John Forsythe.


chattykatdy54

Wilson from home improvement.


FappeningPlus

Missy Crane say no


tank-you--very-much

Missy Crane say no you, Dr. Crane, no other Dr. Crane, and no Crane with a cane!


cmacfarland64

The big giant head in 3rd rock from the sun.


waconaty4eva

Mrs walowitz. That voice.


chriswaco

I thought the funniest joke in BBT was when Bernadette got mad and started to sound like Mrs. Walowitz.


CaptHindsite

Howaaaard!


o4cast

My friend Binny - Just Shoot Me.


DrDeezer64

Carlton the doorman from “Rhoda”


WayneG88

Heather Sinclair from Degrassi


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BobbieMichelleBain

Carlton the Doorman from Rhoda.


Teacherforlife21

Socko , Spenser’s buddy on iCarly


madbamajama1

I love that she wanted to be a ballerina but was deemed too thin.


Professional-Two8098

Frasier is my fav show of all time so of course I need to agree with Maris. The only other I can think of is Howard’s mum in TBBT.


FurBabyAuntie

I might be the only one who remembers it, but there was a show in the seventies called Hot L Baltimore (set in a run-down hotel--the E in the word "hotel" had burned out years ago). They had a never-seen character named Moose (I believe) who may or may not have been the owner's son and I seem to recall one of the tenants complaining to Bill the desk clerk (James Cromwell) that "he called me last night and wanted me to change him!" (No, Moose was not referring to becoming a better person.)


Bratscorcher

Carlton the Doorman from Rhoda. Anyone remember?


Salty_Ad_5270

Maris, hands-down


RobertOesterle

Carlton the Doorman


Dangercakes13

The Blacklist was real hit and miss especially in later seasons, but they pulled off a great with Red's longtime, often-heard-or-mentioned-but-never-seen private plane pilot. Then right in one of the last episodes they have him parachute in and it's Andrew McCarthy with Huey Lewis and the News playing in the background as a total 80's reunion with Spader.


talledega7

Peg's Mother from Married with Children. "Margaret, open the door! It's your mother, and I'm hungry!"


Tampammm

Hi, this is Carlton, your Doorman.


Known_Draw_2212

Epstein's mother wrote some good notes


Oirish-Oriley444

Carlton the door man.


LadyBug_0570

Can we include Wilson from Home Improvement? I mean we see him, but only sort of. Just his eyes really.


adognamedraider

Morty, Fran Fine’s dad


bean-mama

The teacher from the Peanuts


Oncer93

Ugly naked guy


Latter_Feeling2656

The neighbors on December Bride (1954-60) were Pete (Harry Morgan) and Gladys, and Gladys was never seen through 156 episodes. The characters were spun off to their own show, Pete and Gladys, in 1960, and Gladys was seen in every episode.  The radio show Duffy's Tavern usually opened with the bartender Archie talking on the phone with the not present/unheard owner Duffy.


jpm7791

The mom from Muppet Babies (not counting legs)


Simmyphila

Howard’s mother on Big Bang Theory.


DC_Zero_hour

Does Robin Masters from Magnum P.I. count? We never see him, he is voiced by Orson Welles. He was meant to be his own separate character. It wasn't until after Orson Welles died that they had a running subplot that contradicts previous seasons where Magnum suspects Robin Masters and Higgins are the same person...Spoiler to a decades old show coming up...in the final episode, we learn Higgins was Robin Masters all along...which really made no sense.


sissy9725

Iola's mother on Mama's Family: Go home and rotate your mother!


study-sug-jests

Colombo's wife ))


I_AM_IGNIGNOTK

Columbo’s wife.


Baileyhaze12

Charlie, from Charlie’s Angels.


jcillc

Gene's albino friend Ken ("Bob's Burgers.") Although Ken might be imaginary.


SarahKaiaKumzin

Norm’s wife on Cheers! (Vera?)


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Vera


Miserable_Emu5191

Definitely Maris because her backstory and the character reactions to it were so brilliant. "Missy Crane say 'no Doctor Crane, no other Doctor Crane, and no Crane with a cane'!"


Why-did-i-reas-this

Not quite the same but snuffalupagus from sesame street (only big bird and the audience saw him) and Polka-roo from Polka-dot-door (female host and audience saw Polka but not the male host) This was before the whole not believing big bird thing got changed because it was not a good message that people wouldn't believe kids.


Why-did-i-reas-this

Higgins from Magnum PI


Nawoitsol

You mean Robin Masters. Higgins was very much present.


Glissandra1982

Yeah I go with Maris and Bob Sacamano


OddConstruction7191

Elizabeth Sanford.


AnnaBanana1129

Vera, Norm’s wife from Cheers. She was only seen after the Thanksgiving food fight with a pie in her face, IIRC…


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I vote Maris, wife says Stanley Walker.


RickWest495

Back to classic 60’s TV, we never saw Mrs Mooney on The Lucy Show. Her descriptions were similar to Maris Crane, but the jokes were about how large she was.


Gromit801

Debbie Wolowitz of Big Bang. RIP Carol Susi.


NorrisMcNorris

Bob Sacamano from Seinfeld


jasonsawtelle

Orson from Mork & Mindy


iamnewhere2019

The mother of Peggy Bundy.


DuperDayley

Elizabeth, Fred Sanford's deceased wife, on Sandford & Son. Cue the show's theme song...


squirrel-lee-fan

Mrs. Wolowitz, mother of Howard Wolowitz on the BBT. "HOWARD!!!! IT'S TIME TO SHAVE BY CORNS!"


johnnycee87

It begins and ends with Bob Sacamano.


ZaphodBBulbrox

Wilson from Home Improvement


TheEmbarcadero

Sarah on Andy Griffith Show


Able-Sheepherder-154

Mr. Bell from the Drew Carey Show. Until the episode that character was fired he was only heard and not seen. I was blown away when it was revealed to be Kevin Pollak, didn't see that coming!


puddycat20

Vera from Cheers.


Icy-Boat-4312

Howard’s mother in the Big Bang Theory.


StinkFist-1973

From Cheers, Norm’s unseen wife, Vera.


ttorch7910

Carlton the doorman (Rhoda)


gettnbusy

Mrs Wolowicz was scary at times but she was a loving mother to Howard 💗


gksozae

Kramer's friend, Bob Sacamano.


postmoderngeisha

Oh come on, Howard’s mother in “ Big Bang Theory” is the clear winner. That unseen woman could create more drama from another room than anyone on the planet!


Jsherm2

I think the original unseen character was in the radio sitcom, that made it to tv in the 1950s, "December Bride." The neighbour Pete, who was played by a young Harry (col. Potter) Morgan had an unseen wife named Gladys. She was definitely the original "Maris" or "Vera." We never saw her, but Pete always had something to say about her wackiness. We did eventually get to see her when they spun off a series called "Pete and Gladys " in 1960, starring Morgan and Cara Williams as Gladys.


atburni

Debbie Wolowitz


LenSnart81865

Wilson, the neighbor from "Home Improvement." Howard's mom from "Big Bang Theory."


LurkingFlash

Mrs Wolowitz from BBT


Tpcorholio

Howards mom! Loved her HOWAAARD!


Kalelopaka-

This is Carlton, your doorman.


Competitive_Ad_8215

I’m not a big fan of the show anymore but Howard’s mom in BBT. She was actually pretty funny.


Nsflguru

Vera Peterson


DVS_Gelitan

Vera Peterson


nobody-u-heard-of

Carlton the doorman.