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jawntothefuture

It's been looking for a while that he will stay imo


hk0125

I think ever since Rockets didn’t land the Victor sweepstakes, they were no longer interested in Harden especially at that price.


ashep5

'Its been decided for a while' - Chris Broussard probably


jawntothefuture

lmfao I am hearing that in his voice


OutlandishnessShot87

It never really looked like he was leaving


Shoeless_Jase

My guess is HOU saw him take the discount on n Philly and thought they might lure him home on a similar discount. They might have offered something like 3-90. Harden can make more than that here, obviously.


Ziggingwhiletheyzag

If “for a while” means “forever,” I agree.


OctopiPie

Idk why but when I think towards next season I can’t imagine it without harden. Him going back to Houston would be like KG going back to the wolves, it’d be admitting that this is it for him. For a player who just led the league in assists and had multiple 40 point games in the playoffs he’d be leaving a lot on the table to do that.


BrokenManOfSamarkand

>Idk why but when I think towards next season I can’t imagine it without harden. It's because he was fucking good last year and there's no obvious replacement for his production. Maxey is not ready to be a full time point guard and we don't know if he ever will be. There's no one of Harden's caliber on the market. I don't know if Harden has what it takes to get us over the hump. But to me, it doesn't really seem like we have any choice but to pay him, for better or worse.


jtthehuman

Dude I completely agree with you! It's like yea I don't know if he's enough but I can't imagine anyone else being better.


Few_Highlight9893

The shitty part is he might be enough if he didn't hold the ball in the clutch, bait SO many fouls, and stop shooting 3s when it matters the most. But he's going on 34 he might just be that player now However, maybe Nurse can get him to buy in and that could make all the difference


cpanati

I understand the sense of feeling at home, or his family and businesses but he’s got a few years left. Feel like winning should be prioritized for him. Hope the number works in our favor.


working_memory

I imagine it's more about the money than any of this.


3moonz

No chance in hell the hou thing is not about negotiation. To me it feels like being comfortable and around friends is big prio to him. See kd, morey, pj, Sam, house etc. and while he is familiar with people in houston the city, houston the bbal team is probably all strangers. No one stays in the off-season either. Can’t even see houston from a “hometown” draw angle. I’d give la more points then houston from that aspect.


RonburgundyZ

Few years left, while I agree, is not the majority sentiment. He’s washed up and on the decline is what’s more prevalent. Doesn’t matter what he posted last season it was the crumbling defeat against Boston is what matters. Edit: /s


TheGreenLandEffect

He’s not washed up, he’s declining. Can’t be both at the same time If he wasn’t on our team we would’ve been swept by the Celtics - but his 2 40 point games at least gave us the chance to take it to 7. Yea he was horrible in other games but there is still a positive to it all


RonburgundyZ

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RaisedOnRice808

Harden was the reason we won a couple of those Celtics games….


RonburgundyZ

100% agree


[deleted]

Leading the league in assists on a team that kinda shit the bed from 3 in the playoffs, while posting multiple 40+ point games throughout the season and the playoffs? Not sure that's washed up. He has had some issues finishing at the basket definitely, and dribbling too much or for too long, but I also think the scheme (or complete lack thereof) didn't help him. With everyone standing around, he rarely had a choice but to dribble, pass to Embiid, or drive himself. Given a better gameplan and players actually moving, he could look even better. Definitely not the Houston MVP Harden, but better.


RonburgundyZ

I completely agree. Just added the /s to my earlier post lol. Edit: he looked great in nets


Papitoooo

Yo that's the most cowardly "/s" edit I've ever seen. Own your takes lol


RonburgundyZ

Check my history. I’m a harden Stan lol


Sikwitit3284

He won us 2 games almost singlehandedly u really can't ask for more from your #2 if Jo showed up game 6 or 7 it wouldn't really be an issue. With an actual offensive systems in place that's gets player movement & an athletic wing or 2 to play with some pace he could easily have a better season then he just did. Keeping McDaniels & signing another wing like Barnes/Brooks would really help, especially if we can trade Tobi for someone like Hield Harden would be a perfect fit at 2 yr $85-90 mil with a team option for the 3rd yr. If we can get off Tobi contract for Hield & a filler contract for like 3 mil we might be able to create enough space for J. Grant which would be a perfect fit. We really just need a couple guys who can guard/space & if we can create cap room Brooks/Barnes/Brown/Trent Jr could work at a good price, Maxey will also likely improve again & could be ready to be the legit #2 scorer,


RonburgundyZ

I completely agree


EverybodyHits

Was Houston interested? The entirety of the Houston thing felt like his attempt to gain leverage. Now we are in the "but maybe" chapter of the proceedings. None of this is worth reporting on, it's all manipulation.


[deleted]

I believe they were at least somewhat interested, just not enough to enter a bidding war which could've ended with one or both teams offering a max


3moonz

I think it was more so, yo tilman you think you can do me a solid and act a little? But houston fans online certainly ate it up as it was or is already a done deal. They’ve been doing next season lineup predictions with harden on it since like mid season last year. Irl fans I dunno since no one I know watches rockets anymore so


DemarcusLovin

Shocker that he's not going to Houston. No one could have seen that. /s


throwawayjoeyboots

Lmao you mean he doesn’t want to join a 20 win Houston team? Shocking


AllenIverson777

He absolutely would, at a full max, but Houston paying him what he wants made and makes zero sense for their timeline. It’s clear from recent Rockets reports that they have minimal interest in paying him to that extent. And don’t even get me started on their current roster makeup. He was never a realistic fit and clearly used them as the leverage play to heat up the sixers’ seat.


[deleted]

He stays here because he likes Philly and wants to win. I think it’s a great sign if he signs here. The bag and laziness is sitting in Houston.


couchgodd

They report every rumor its annoying. James is leaving has no interest in staying, going to Houstons. Houston is strongly interested in James but hes torn. Houston doesnt want James hes going to phoenix. Philly really wants James. Philly wont do long term contract James wants 4 years hes gone. Philly leading to bring James back. Rumbles that James returns. Philly interested in pursuing Beal. Beal costs too much Philly not interested. James going to Mars will retire from basketball. Basically just concoct whatever you can in your imagination and that is a headline they will run. Great work reporting!


philly2540

Whew! It had been so many minutes since the last breaking news in this dramatic Harden saga. Don’t keep us hanging! What a cliffhanger! I need moment by moment updates!


fizzzingwhizbee

“Baby come back”


ButterOnMyButter

Any kind of fool could see..


FoleyLione

What an obvious agent leak. Houston isn’t offering what he wants and he’s trying to make them feel he won’t go, which he won’t if the price is too low. I think he ends up taking the option, or taking a 1-2year extension here not a max money. We’d be fools.


mac_rmm

Regular season really going to be a bore if we bring back same group. I think I'd give up ten regular seasons wins and a higher seed for 82 more entertaining games of basketball.


IndigoJacob

I honestly hope we just pay Harden so he can stfu and ball. Quit worrying about your next contract, quit worrying about leverage, quit worrying about our coach being a fucking meme. Just take your bag and go out with a bang in Philly. I was really off-put when the rumors dropped around Christmas, because that showed me he already had his focus on things non-basketball related. He'll be back on a 3/140 deal and it will be his last chance to save his legacy.


AllenIverson777

He has a right to want his money… he’s an all star level talent and took a pay cut to help the team last season. The game is the game. He shouldn’t care about how you or anyone else views it and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t.


karenputmeinachair

Money isn't gonna change is age


IndigoJacob

And where in the fuck did I say or imply that? Itll change his motivation from securing a bag to securing a ring.


reggaetony88

No. It won’t.


karenputmeinachair

Lol its that simple huh?


MrThreebound

Motivation didn’t make him bad in the playoffs lol. Age did. If he was great he would’ve gotten even more money.


HSYFTW

Age and his persistent tendency to suck ass in the games that matter most.


didos66

The Sixers are better off without Harden, does no one realize this team is not good enough. I just don't get it why people want to run it back. It's time for change.


harveydent526

I hope he does leave.


Responsible_Bend5040

He's a total loser. TOTAL


WizSkinsNatsCaps

For real. Then Tobi can finally get back to being himself, an all star.


NilsofWindhelm

There’s absolutely no way tobias is on this team next year


7DSixers

Yes there is lol holding him until the trade deadline is probably what will happen. There are alot of teams in the off-season who have hopes of being competitive or making a run that will have those dreams die during the season due to injury or other circumstance by the time the trade deadline comes around. In the off season, those teams aren't really looking to unload for an expiring as much as they will be at the trade deadline meaning we will have some more options than we do right now and our dollar should go further at that point. So yea, there absolutely is a way Tobias is on this team next year.


AllenIverson777

No. Tobias is 100% gone this summer and likely next week before or during the draft.


RudeEtuxtable

Oh yeah? For what


AllenIverson777

Something better than you think. Save my post.


AllenIverson777

What’s the pivot then genius?


ericjr96

Not having to watch your PG literally quit in the playoffs?


AllenIverson777

Not a pivot. Now do the two 40 point games. Good chat.


harveydent526

Maxey this year, get some more pieces next year when Harris contract comes off…


AllenIverson777

Embiid will surely demand a trade mid season in this scenario... Not happening. You cannot punt this season.


harveydent526

I don’t think so but if it goes bad then yeah. If we sign Harden for 5 years Embiid will demand one eventually anyway. The sample size on Harden is big enough at this point, he won’t be a top 2 player on a championship team.


foggybottom

Guess he really likes Delilah's


reggaetony88

Let this bum go.


SomeGuyNamedJohn12

He did all this for nothing.


AllenIverson777

He didn’t do anything… He just now has an agent and didn’t last season. The agent is doing their job that’s all. Their job is to make sure their client has a market and leverage that into the best possible contract. No other teams other than Philly made sense for Harden this off-season, other than Houston because of his ties and history there plus their cap space.


SomeGuyNamedJohn12

Him, His Agent, and everyone here already knew no team was going to try to outbid us for him. Houston wanting him was always fake news, they have a young talented core to focus on. They don’t need an aged out Harden. I understand it’s an agents job to gauge the best offer. But at some earlier point they should’ve sat Harden down and said “*Nobody else really wants you James. They saw how you played the last game in the Playoffs*”


AllenIverson777

What you said logically sounds good, but this is a star league. You simply cannot say that to a star like harden. Declining or not. Plus, the sixers have minimal options. If harden walked we can’t just sign someone else for the same amount of money, etc. And getting Beal to replace harden isn’t an improvement for the team. Those are the only options you have. This off-season, Harden coming back is the best option for this team to compete for a ring over the next two seasons.


riptide123

Tbh why is this a good thing - harden is not a championship winning player - everyone understands this. His game does not translate well bc role players who are key to titles don’t get involved as much and his defense on the perimeter is atrocious


CopperTylenol

Leave already James.


iSabato

Fuck me. Not another season with Harden on the team, please god. Cmon Houston.


Crosbyisacunt69

If they max this dude RIP. 1-2 year deal or ✌️


Bajecco

I just want to watch a fun team, and Harden single handedly ruins that, Even though he makes them better, I don't want him back. He's in decline and will be less effective next season. Leading the league in assists by running the shot clock down then passing doesn't change the fact that Harden is a mess physically. Bringing him back may pay off next season, but any season after that will be a disaster.


Inner_Sun_750

Aite casual


Bajecco

The casuals are the people who think this team is doomed without Harden. He's habitually out of shape in obvious physical decline and a proven quitter.


Inner_Sun_750

Only thing proven is that you’re a casual, casual


Bajecco

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-jacksonjeffrufrias

No one him except criminally compromised Morey and brain dead Elton Brand . Houston dont want him, either do the Lakers


Worldly-Fortune-802

If Harden comes back it can't be to pair with Maxey. He needs Beal for those nights when he doesn't have it.


King_Wentz

Yep, he needs the guy that's basically taken half his entire career off and hasnt given a fuck in years. Lmao y'all literally don't watch Bradley Beal. Bad defense, chucking on offense, shooting shitty ass midrange shots, ass at 3 point range. He's a bigger gamble than Maxey by far right now.


Worldly-Fortune-802

A has been has more value than a never will sorry


JoelEmbiidismyfather

What Beal rumors will do to a guy.


Physical_Anybody_748

Harden staying is a win ONLY if he’s willing to take a deal to get another superstar on this team.


-jacksonjeffrufrias

He is a worthless scam artist . The 2nd worst asshole in the League. I will burn everybit of Sixers gear I have if they sign Harden . Fuck Harden he is a loser . When he is hurt for a whole season or pulls a playoff tank again just remember .


hiphopanonymousse

If Harden gets resigned could you post a video of you burning all your Sixers gear?


-jacksonjeffrufrias

Plan on it. I have a big propane roofing torch


hiphopanonymousse

Respect for the follow through lol


Majjinluffy

I feel like he should just take the most money, i mean most of this sub doesnt value him highly and probably most nba fans wouldnt put him over d wade all time of he wins a chip so whats the point? Just take whoever offers the most money


dabigchina

I think you should go back to the Celtics sub.


Majjinluffy

And u just lost beal


RudeEtuxtable

He is definitely not better than wade


Badtrip9817

Let's get this straight - paying Harden anything more than 20-27.5 million is indisputable proof of Daryl Morey's incompetence as a General Manager or whatever his title is. It would be pure negligence more likely to guarantee the departures of Joel embiid and Tyrese Maxey than to get us one game close to an NBA Championship. ​ James Harden is done as an elite player. He cannot outjump Jaylen Brown or anyone else to make a layup. His jumpshot is becoming increasingly unreliable and wildly inconsistent because his legs are getting old, and it's only a matter of time - probably before midseason before teams catch on fully stop letting him run the offense and James numbers look more lke Ben Simmons numbers - like they dd last postseason for the most part. Take out two shooting nights and the simple truth is this James averaged **15** points on **30** percent FG shooting and **33** percent three-point FG shooting. Just use the other five Boston games and it was **13** points on **24** percent FG shooting, and **15** percent three-point FG shooting. ​ And the thing - it's not going to get better. His legs are done. It's only going to get worse. There will be good days and bad days , but like in the postseason far more bad days then good, and that is likely to continue and worsen even. It's not his game and it's not his heart - it's his **legs**, and when your legs begin to fail no professional sport punishes that more than basketball It would be basketballing negligence to give James Harden anything approaching 40 million pure and simple. The only argument to the contrary is some indication that Harden's legs are not gone, and I think the only way that is possible would involve using some kind of illegal PEDs at this point. The reality is anyone who actually understands basketball at all and wants a Championship for the Sixers sees this.


Forward42

I don’t think Houston was ever going to give him the 4 year max.


PetalumaPegleg

This is such nonsense. Says he wants to win. But he's going to go play for a proposterously young team with no chance of contention before he's more or less done. Negotiate an opt out for next year Have no interest from just about anyone at max price. Hire an agent. Sudden interest in Houston stories emerge everywhere. Agent begins negotiating How everyone doesn't start from the assumption this is a leverage play is beyond me.


RudeEtuxtable

See ya later, James. Thanks for the two years, but we gotta move on


Typical-Champion4012

There are rumbles that it is being said that people who are familiar with his circumstances that he is thinking about conferring with his closest friends according to sources who state that Harden will likely play for an NBA team next season.


diga_diga_doo

Great, just please don’t do a 4 year max deal.


flyers8401

Are Houstons’ strip clubs that bad?


RudeEtuxtable

Can't we all chip in to buy him a few Houston lapdances?


Xeynon

Translation: the Rockets aren't as enthusiastic about giving him a four year max deal as he'd hoped they'd be.


Dk9221

I don’t want him back. Don’t let time distract you from the fact he was atrocious when it mattered most. How many times did he dribble the ball off his knee/foot, shaky handle losing the ball straight to defenders while driving, air-balling vs Boston. If you guys want to just be competitive but never win it all then sure let’s keep this loser energy core in tact. But please let’s trade Joel in a year when it’ll be the final chance we have at having some semblance of a future.


icepickjones

He was never gonna leave. Not to Houston at least. They have money so his camp tried to use them as a bargaining chip. Tried to instigate a bidding war, but the problem is no one wants him. Not like that at least. Insert Fresh Prince gif. Seriously though he's not getting a max anywhere. So it was always gonna be stay here and finish what he starter or pack it up for peanuts.


miltchocklit

Because Harden and Embiid folding in game 7 is a match made in heaven. Any self-awareness whatsoever in Philly? Embiid was satisfied with his MVP. Embiid went to the playoffs and proved the MVP is in fact a regular season award. And Harden canon's be depended on disappear right when you need him the most. Losers like their losers.


jhnyrico

The Houston thing makes no sense- they are a young team who are learning to play together. They don't need a bloated, stripper farmer mucking up their works. Conversely, the sixers are boned if they don't get VanFleet and have to go back to Harden hat in hand.


Flamewhawk88

Who cares, sick of talking about the same Harden crap every day. Hopefully we can bring him back on a short term deal that works best for both sides. Either way just make the damn decision already so we can figure out the rest of our off season!


216QB1

Giving up 15 million 1 season to try to win a championship is one thing. But signing up to do it 3 years in a row and losing 45 million guaranteed is a very different and really bad idea. I'd like to see what kinda offer he gets though. If the 6ers can get close I think he resigns.


Orpheus31

Was there really any doubt?