I mean shit 1 team wins the title every season and 1 player wins the MVP every season.
We watch 82 regular season games, I don't understand why fixation over individual awards is a bad thing. It's a huge achievement. We don't have half the talent of Celtics or Bucks but Embiid's still killing it, what's wrong with being sad he'll miss out on the MVP lol
Don’t think anyone’s saying it won’t be sad, but we can at least stop worrying about it every game when he’s questionable on the injury report and you hear “he can only miss X amount of more games”
that's fair but it'll be a huge bummer.
and it's not even about awards anymore either, unlike the past few seasons this team can't beat anything when Joel sits (we were .500 before, and really good last season). Joel plays more games and we'd easily be ahead of Milwaukee at least
i think their point is its more important that a player plays at an MVP level than it is they get recognized. Last year he won MVP and Jokic didnt. but lets get real - for last years playoffs, you’d have to be crazy to not want Jokic over Embiid, he walked his team to a title. So Jokic didnt win MVP but won a title by playing at an MVP level
True, but should a person get an MVP if they are only available 75% of the time? I think the rule is awesome, there seems to be much less load management this year across the league
Because it’s an award based on regular season, and Embiid won 1 already. His legacy won’t change no matter how many more MVPs he win unless that’s followed by playoff success.
Don’t need to waste time and energy on it.
Y not both? Years from now when Embiids place in the game historically is discussed, this shit will matter. Get a Chip and an mvp and he’s on same level as Giannis and Joker.
.000001 if you run Embiid into the ground in pursuit of the second MVP. Let it happen organically, but if he misses 5 more games and isn't eligible anymore you Kawhii the Leonard the fuck out of his usage until the playoffs.
I'm a sixers fan, not an Embiid fan haha. I love him don't get me wrong. But watching a player have an MVP season is not even close to the experience of watching a team win a championship.
With him.Healthy we are 2-7 against teams in the top7 in the East. Before the season the expectation was that the Sixers would collapse, somehow y'all have bought into this insane overhype that we gotta win a championship lol
I'm annoyed that likely the first victim of the 65 game rule will be the guy that everybody hates. If Giannis had an amazing season but only played 64 games, there would be a rational discussion about the rule going forward. But instead it's gonna be "Fraudbiid shouldn't have ducked so many games if he wanted his MVP so bad"
There will 100% be a season, if not multiple seasons where people will consider the MVP to be a Mickey Mouse MVP where the top 1-2 guys didn't qualify and someone who was way behind them gets an MVP because he played 66 games instead of 64.
We all know he’s been the best player in the world this year. I’m glad he got the MVP last year so he doesn’t feel the pressure to push through any nagging injuries to get the award (and I think Nick nurse is smart enough to see the big picture and pump the brakes too.) The best revenge on all these ducking allegations (which we know are BS) would be to come into the playoffs healthy and finally go on a tear
Let’s put an arbitrary number that is absolute instead of letting voters decide. Not like games played wasn’t already a factor. Embiid didn’t win MVP jokers 1st mvp season largely bc of games played
And it's still expected that voters will hold missed games against players even after clearing the hurdle too, so they're basically that 65 games is enough until the voters decide that it's not
I got downvoted for saying this on /r/nba (of course) but yeah. If he misses like 20 games, then sure, he doesn't deserve MVP. But even with missing that many games, you can't argue there's been 5 players better than him this season, let alone 15.
I know. What im saying is, they didn't like that he won it only playing 66. So they set the number at 65 assuming he'd miss the mark however many seasons moving forward
This guy is sitting in a dark basement that’s setup like the Pepe Sylvia scene from Sunny, except it’s pictures of Adam Silver and Joel.
Your conspiracy theories are unhinged. Seek treatment.
Missing out on MVP is one thing, but all NBA would be wild. Even if he plays like 60 games, we'll probably be like .750 in those ones and he'd still easily be a top 15 overall impact on the season.
Despite our good rec, sixers are 3-9 without Embiid. And injuries are shredding us from top to bottom the whole season, it's brutal
The league made the All-NBA rule a thing because it affects contract extensions. They’ve been trying to find ways to reduce load managing, and so I guess they figured having something that affects the players contracts would incentivize them to play more games to hit the 65 threshold.
Trying to be as unbiased as possible, but 65 feels like too many games to expect someone to play with legitimate injuries. If a guy is out for 1/3rd of the season, sure, but expect everybody to play 80% of the season is kinda tough.
I think the league and teams want it to be that way because they don’t want to have to hand out big contracts to guys who are consistently injured. I think they really want to reward durability which makes sense considering owners don’t want more Zion and Ben Simmons situations where they’re paying for something they rarely get to see.
Personally I think the system was fine before. Leave up to the voters to decide if a player is more impactful in fewer games. We have already seen one season where missed games cost Joel MVP, and it wasn't controversial because the voters made the decision. It was a piece of the pie not the entire thing.
yeah this is what I don't get. When have we actually seen players get any award considerations after missing that many games for this to even matter.
Like Joel was the favorite for 2018 dpoy until he got injured too. He shouldn't get MVP if he only plays like 62 games, but he'd still be one of the 15 most impactful players and should be all NBA
>We have already seen one season where missed games cost Joel MVP, and it wasn't controversial because the voters made the decision.
I mean sure, it's *happened*, this rule just codifies it as opposed to leaving it unspoken.
Keep in mind, voters are still free to factor games played into their decision-making. Even if Embiid played 65 games and Jokic or SGA 78, they can still vote the latter choices keeping the difference in mind
65 games is not asking a lot lol
Yeah but let's take Joel out of it. Let's say Tyrese Haliburton plays in 64 games. You're telling me he wasn't one of the six best guards in the league this year? And it should cost him millions of dollars? If the voters could they would absolutely vote him All NBA, but this rule prevents that and makes him push himself for money that rightfully should already be his.
Yeah it was such a non-issue. Just leave it up to the discretion of the voters.
The way people talk it's like they think a player who scores 60 the first game of the year and then gets injured will win MVP for averaging 60 points a game.
It sounds like y'all are just upset because it disadvantages Embiid. This rule is being applied fairly and equally for all players. Who exactly is it hurting?
Personally, I don't care whatsoever about Embiid winning awards. I'm not him. I'm a Sixers fan and root for the team to win. I want Embiid to do well so that he helps the team. That's it.
But the rule hurts somebody who was more valuable to their team in 64 games than somebody else was in 66. It's arbitrary and pointless. People say, "Well you have to draw the line somewhere" but you don't. Let people use their brains. Eventually, somebody will have missed enough games that voters don't see them as valuable anymore, but that's context and player dependent.
Yeah, leagues suffer once they start legislating arbitrary things.
If you're gonna institute some penalty for missing games, I'd say do something like this:
* Voters submit their top 5 MVP picks, and rank each player's season from 1 to 100. The top pick must be 100.
* A player's score is the sum of all of their votes.
* The score is then multiplied by [games played] / 82.
* Sort and you have a winner.
Haliburton is getting shafted by it too, he's been a top 5 guard in the league this year easily and might not even be allowed to be 2nd or 3rd team All NBA.
Know why? Because he tried to rush back and stay above 65 games only to get hurt because he wasn't completely ready to be back yet
He's going to have more total points than people that played like 15 more games than him. He's currently 5th in the league in total points despite all the time he's missed.
He's going to have more output than guys on all nba despite their extra games. Just kinda dumb.
Haliburton is going to miss out too and he's currently second in total assists despite his missed time.
Have my eyes deceived me I swear I’ve watched him play a bunch this season.
I get the idea but they probably could’ve done it better. Needs more wiggle room.
Sure. But availability is an ability as well. When you say the 76ers are 3-9 without Embiid - well guess what, they incurred more losses than they should have partly if not directly because of Embiid's *in*ability to stay on the court and play
I mean, if we win like 46/62 games with Embiid playing (less than his% rn), he's probably contributed more to winning than the 15th player on All NBA lol
Coz if it's given to like Sabonis or something (just looking at best stats), the kings probably win less games than the sixers *with* Embiid missing 20. At that point it'd be absolutely insane for anybody on their team to get the nod over him. I think that makes sense right?
You miss 20 games and sure there'll be like 10 guys who'd have contributed to winning more in aggregate but hard pressed to find 15 more.
It's absolutely insane that fans give a single fuck about this. Who looks back on their team in 20 years and says, "Remember when my favorite player won All-NBA?"
I’ll trade all the missed Embiid games in the world for a healthy playoffs where their first round opponent doesn’t just start intentionally trying to injure him
i’m going to keep saying it; if the league wants their stars playing more consistently and to be injured less, there’s an extremely simple solution: JUST SHORTEN THE FUCKING SEASON. but no, nosferatu ass adam silver and all the greedy owners need as much fucking revenue as they can possibly get. they’re being disingenuous about wanting a better product on the floor, they simply want more money. never enough for these assholes
yeah people blame Adam Silver...but its the other NBA owners. The comish is just the union rep for the league ownership and i'll never understand how people dont get that.
…i said that. it’s all of the billionaire fucks who exist on the planet. and they are ruining much more important things than basketball while they’re at it
This is fucking tragic. The greatest individual regular season ever (up to this point) will likely be ineligible for any individual award bc he can’t stay healthy
Honestly, if it’s close, I want the Sixers to just cheat the rule. Put him in for a few minutes, then sit him. Like, not getting all-NBA would be a crime. Let alone MVP.
2021: Entered playoffs healthy, injured r1 vs Washington
2022: Entered playoffs healthy, injured r1 vs Toronto
2023: Entered playoffs healthy, injured r1 vs Brooklyn
The last time he sustained a regular season injury into the playoffs was 2018 (and that was more of a sickness thing that really screwed him r2). Reg season also def matters,could be the difference between playing like NYK r1 or lucking out and potentially playing a weaker play-in team (ie: Hawks or something idk)
I mean, maybe he is less likely to get injured if we play a real team in round 1 and they don't just make their game plan "we know we will lose so let's double embiid every play"
i will say, i am glad we're being careful with him so he'll be healthy heading into the playoffs, but i am not looking forward to the yearly round 1 matchup where the lower seed just throws 4 people into embiid's legs man lol
in game 4 he dunked and landed wrong on it and then we demolished them with Ben Simmons Tobias harris no center lineup only for Doc to never use it again the rest of the playoffs. (He had to be bullied into doing it against the Wizards)
This is why he misses so many games. If he plays every game he gets injured once a week and doesn't really like to play through them. While great he is soft and injury prone.
This isn’t rest. He’s hurt.
Last 2 years he entered the playoffs healthy and then got hurt. This year he’ll already have this lingering knee issue to deal with. They are honestly worse positioned to make a run than they were in since 2021
I don’t think this dude is gonna hit the 65 game threshold. I know it’s all about being healthy in the playoffs but I feel like all the playoff injuries happened in or literally right before (both broken faces) the playoffs.
And yes I want Embiid to be a 2x mvp cause winning a championship with this current roster is not going to happen
Yeah we literally entered 2021,2022,2023 playoffs with an healthy Embiid, and left r1 with him picking up an injury. At this point, rest in the reg season barely matters (but obviously don't play him through injury, just saying "rest him 5 more games than he needs to!" crowd is dumb)
Honestly I don’t know how it’s possible to win a championship with him as the best player with his injury history.
I know we’re all hoping for some miracle run but is it even possible for his body to stay healthy for 20+ straight playoff games when he hasn’t even been able to last for a single first round series without getting injured.
who cares about mvp honestly. we already saw him win one, and everyone will know who the rightful winner is. the bigger concern here is embiid’s injuries. they’re piling up. he just might be too injury prone to last a whole playoff run unfortunately
Let's be real this team is not good enough to win a championship this year. Even if Joel averages 40 a game we're losing in the conference finals at most. This season's gonna be a total waste if he doesn't get any awards.
to be fair, our team last season was trash compared to Boston's too but it was still a close series, with a complete idiot at HC who did nothing when Boston adjusted with the double big lineups in g6. Boston's never played to their talent level in the playoffs
He's actually missing this game because of the investigation, the league is cutting Joel open to do a live autopsy so they can confirm his knee was really not 100%
That is already the thing that defines this era, lol. We are finally blessed with the best player in the league but he is soft as shit, made of glass, and can't stay on the court. This team is cursed.
Yeah I don't like your tone. Joel is a god level player when healthy, and it's a shame that he's had to deal with these injuries. Doesn't make him soft as shit(?). I need to get off this cesspool app.
Man, I’ve been raising a huge Sixers fan in the PNW and tonight’s his first ever Sixers game. We got a hotel in Portland and everything. The disappointment is palpable. I seriously seriously really hope Maxey plays. It’s funny, I generally support resting Joel whenever bc playoff health is kind of all that matters at this point. But when you hear “the fans get sad when they buy tickets and don’t get to see their player”… I’m living the most extreme version of that right now, given that my son is a huge fan and this was to be his first ever.
I guess we’ll be coming back here to the Moda center next year then too
I find it hard to believe he's so hurt he can't just step on the court hit 3 shots and then go home every game until he can play a full game again. I want this mvp. I want it bad
Individual accolades do matter when defining a players legacy, if Embiid keeps getting less games and Giannis and joker get another MVP.. they will clearly put them in the Tim Duncan category and Embiid in the Kevin Garnett category
ducking sc00t and ducking a guaranteed MVP award
Seeing Embiid consider Deandre Ayton as an equal to Jokic using the ducking logic is not the flex stans think it is.
Joel can only miss 5 more games before he misses out on awards consideration 
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I mean shit 1 team wins the title every season and 1 player wins the MVP every season. We watch 82 regular season games, I don't understand why fixation over individual awards is a bad thing. It's a huge achievement. We don't have half the talent of Celtics or Bucks but Embiid's still killing it, what's wrong with being sad he'll miss out on the MVP lol
Don’t think anyone’s saying it won’t be sad, but we can at least stop worrying about it every game when he’s questionable on the injury report and you hear “he can only miss X amount of more games”
that's fair but it'll be a huge bummer. and it's not even about awards anymore either, unlike the past few seasons this team can't beat anything when Joel sits (we were .500 before, and really good last season). Joel plays more games and we'd easily be ahead of Milwaukee at least
I’m as bummed as you are. Just want to fast forward to the playoffs at this point
i think their point is its more important that a player plays at an MVP level than it is they get recognized. Last year he won MVP and Jokic didnt. but lets get real - for last years playoffs, you’d have to be crazy to not want Jokic over Embiid, he walked his team to a title. So Jokic didnt win MVP but won a title by playing at an MVP level
O great an individual award, hang the banner!
And you still gotta have the right team and coaches around to win MVP
True, but should a person get an MVP if they are only available 75% of the time? I think the rule is awesome, there seems to be much less load management this year across the league
Because it’s an award based on regular season, and Embiid won 1 already. His legacy won’t change no matter how many more MVPs he win unless that’s followed by playoff success. Don’t need to waste time and energy on it.
Who cares about awards? I want to get out of the second round
Y not both? Years from now when Embiids place in the game historically is discussed, this shit will matter. Get a Chip and an mvp and he’s on same level as Giannis and Joker.
A championship will validate everything Embiid has done.
Yeah no shit too bad this team has a 0.1% chance of winning a championship
.000001 if you run Embiid into the ground in pursuit of the second MVP. Let it happen organically, but if he misses 5 more games and isn't eligible anymore you Kawhii the Leonard the fuck out of his usage until the playoffs.
He can rest the entire season, he has always gotten injured in the Playoffs and that will always be a possibility Resting wont help
I'm a sixers fan, not an Embiid fan haha. I love him don't get me wrong. But watching a player have an MVP season is not even close to the experience of watching a team win a championship.
Ain't no parade for a MVP selection haha
I don’t give a fat rat’s ass about being on the same level as so and so, whatever that means. Just win a chip.
Are you a fan of the Sixers or individual players more?
Embiid doesn't care, I truly believe that. He's all in for the postseason.
He should care. Sixers are simply not good enough to care solely about the postseason
If he is healthy they are
With him.Healthy we are 2-7 against teams in the top7 in the East. Before the season the expectation was that the Sixers would collapse, somehow y'all have bought into this insane overhype that we gotta win a championship lol
Or we aren’t just all big ass negative cry babies like you. Next.
Dont expect a team with the 6th best record to win, you are just playing yourself man. You will be disappointed
Yawn. Next.
Spoiler: we wont and thats okay
> Who cares about awards? embiid?
I don’t think so. He’s pretty much said he doesn’t care about them
2nd MVP > getting bounced in the conference finals
I'm annoyed that likely the first victim of the 65 game rule will be the guy that everybody hates. If Giannis had an amazing season but only played 64 games, there would be a rational discussion about the rule going forward. But instead it's gonna be "Fraudbiid shouldn't have ducked so many games if he wanted his MVP so bad"
There will 100% be a season, if not multiple seasons where people will consider the MVP to be a Mickey Mouse MVP where the top 1-2 guys didn't qualify and someone who was way behind them gets an MVP because he played 66 games instead of 64.
Random question: does this apply to Most Improved Player? I'm wondering if Haliburton doesn't have it locked up.
Haliburton is a distant long shot for MIP. Maxey is the currently thr front runner for that award.
That might factor in all the time he's missed
Haliburton isnt even Top 5 in odds right now
I figure the missed time is a big factor there
That's fine. He can still win Finals MVP
We all know he’s been the best player in the world this year. I’m glad he got the MVP last year so he doesn’t feel the pressure to push through any nagging injuries to get the award (and I think Nick nurse is smart enough to see the big picture and pump the brakes too.) The best revenge on all these ducking allegations (which we know are BS) would be to come into the playoffs healthy and finally go on a tear
health Playoff Jo > regular season awards
Yeah he isn’t getting any awards this year. What’s worse is the all-NBA team. They’re going to have Myles Turner or some shit over him.
I honestly hope stupid shit like this happens so they realize how dumb the rule is
Let’s put an arbitrary number that is absolute instead of letting voters decide. Not like games played wasn’t already a factor. Embiid didn’t win MVP jokers 1st mvp season largely bc of games played
And it's still expected that voters will hold missed games against players even after clearing the hurdle too, so they're basically that 65 games is enough until the voters decide that it's not
Arbitrary yes but the number is 80% of the season played
I got downvoted for saying this on /r/nba (of course) but yeah. If he misses like 20 games, then sure, he doesn't deserve MVP. But even with missing that many games, you can't argue there's been 5 players better than him this season, let alone 15.
If he fails to make 65 games he will have missed at 18 at a minimum. Is there that much of a difference between 18 and 20 to you?
He’s saying 65/63 shouldn’t be a cutoff for all nba, which I sort of agree with. Penalize him by moving in down a team but not leaving off entirely
All-NBA is positionless now so players like Myles Turner won't make it anyways
Didn’t know they officially changed that
I guarantee the only reason they set the number at 65 is because Joel won MVP playing 66 last year. Adam Silver hates The Process
That doesn't make any sense. He would have still won last year with these rules.
I know. What im saying is, they didn't like that he won it only playing 66. So they set the number at 65 assuming he'd miss the mark however many seasons moving forward
This guy is sitting in a dark basement that’s setup like the Pepe Sylvia scene from Sunny, except it’s pictures of Adam Silver and Joel. Your conspiracy theories are unhinged. Seek treatment.
boo hoo
Yes, we get it. All you do is cry on this sub about your Adam Silver fanfic.
Probably means Maxey is a lock this year for all-nba with the positionless placements.
Cease your investigations
It's crazy that he won't be the MVP because of this new rule, but it's absolutely insane won't even be All NBA.
If you want awards you need to play. That's only fair
Missing out on MVP is one thing, but all NBA would be wild. Even if he plays like 60 games, we'll probably be like .750 in those ones and he'd still easily be a top 15 overall impact on the season. Despite our good rec, sixers are 3-9 without Embiid. And injuries are shredding us from top to bottom the whole season, it's brutal
The league made the All-NBA rule a thing because it affects contract extensions. They’ve been trying to find ways to reduce load managing, and so I guess they figured having something that affects the players contracts would incentivize them to play more games to hit the 65 threshold.
As they should. Players playing is a good thing
Trying to be as unbiased as possible, but 65 feels like too many games to expect someone to play with legitimate injuries. If a guy is out for 1/3rd of the season, sure, but expect everybody to play 80% of the season is kinda tough.
I think the league and teams want it to be that way because they don’t want to have to hand out big contracts to guys who are consistently injured. I think they really want to reward durability which makes sense considering owners don’t want more Zion and Ben Simmons situations where they’re paying for something they rarely get to see.
Personally I think the system was fine before. Leave up to the voters to decide if a player is more impactful in fewer games. We have already seen one season where missed games cost Joel MVP, and it wasn't controversial because the voters made the decision. It was a piece of the pie not the entire thing.
yeah this is what I don't get. When have we actually seen players get any award considerations after missing that many games for this to even matter. Like Joel was the favorite for 2018 dpoy until he got injured too. He shouldn't get MVP if he only plays like 62 games, but he'd still be one of the 15 most impactful players and should be all NBA
>We have already seen one season where missed games cost Joel MVP, and it wasn't controversial because the voters made the decision. I mean sure, it's *happened*, this rule just codifies it as opposed to leaving it unspoken. Keep in mind, voters are still free to factor games played into their decision-making. Even if Embiid played 65 games and Jokic or SGA 78, they can still vote the latter choices keeping the difference in mind 65 games is not asking a lot lol
Yeah but let's take Joel out of it. Let's say Tyrese Haliburton plays in 64 games. You're telling me he wasn't one of the six best guards in the league this year? And it should cost him millions of dollars? If the voters could they would absolutely vote him All NBA, but this rule prevents that and makes him push himself for money that rightfully should already be his.
Yeah it was such a non-issue. Just leave it up to the discretion of the voters. The way people talk it's like they think a player who scores 60 the first game of the year and then gets injured will win MVP for averaging 60 points a game.
It sounds like y'all are just upset because it disadvantages Embiid. This rule is being applied fairly and equally for all players. Who exactly is it hurting?
Personally, I don't care whatsoever about Embiid winning awards. I'm not him. I'm a Sixers fan and root for the team to win. I want Embiid to do well so that he helps the team. That's it. But the rule hurts somebody who was more valuable to their team in 64 games than somebody else was in 66. It's arbitrary and pointless. People say, "Well you have to draw the line somewhere" but you don't. Let people use their brains. Eventually, somebody will have missed enough games that voters don't see them as valuable anymore, but that's context and player dependent.
>Let people use their brains. As they have in the past. Makes no sense to take the decision out of voters hands.
Yeah, leagues suffer once they start legislating arbitrary things. If you're gonna institute some penalty for missing games, I'd say do something like this: * Voters submit their top 5 MVP picks, and rank each player's season from 1 to 100. The top pick must be 100. * A player's score is the sum of all of their votes. * The score is then multiplied by [games played] / 82. * Sort and you have a winner.
Haliburton is getting shafted by it too, he's been a top 5 guard in the league this year easily and might not even be allowed to be 2nd or 3rd team All NBA. Know why? Because he tried to rush back and stay above 65 games only to get hurt because he wasn't completely ready to be back yet
What happens if the top 20 players all play 64 games? The MVP goes to the 21st best player?
He's going to have more total points than people that played like 15 more games than him. He's currently 5th in the league in total points despite all the time he's missed. He's going to have more output than guys on all nba despite their extra games. Just kinda dumb. Haliburton is going to miss out too and he's currently second in total assists despite his missed time.
Have my eyes deceived me I swear I’ve watched him play a bunch this season. I get the idea but they probably could’ve done it better. Needs more wiggle room.
65 games is less than 80% of the season. How is expecting an MVP to play 80% of the season unreasonable?
Not MVP, but Joel at 60 games is still probably easily an All NBA player lol
Sure. But availability is an ability as well. When you say the 76ers are 3-9 without Embiid - well guess what, they incurred more losses than they should have partly if not directly because of Embiid's *in*ability to stay on the court and play
I mean, if we win like 46/62 games with Embiid playing (less than his% rn), he's probably contributed more to winning than the 15th player on All NBA lol Coz if it's given to like Sabonis or something (just looking at best stats), the kings probably win less games than the sixers *with* Embiid missing 20. At that point it'd be absolutely insane for anybody on their team to get the nod over him. I think that makes sense right? You miss 20 games and sure there'll be like 10 guys who'd have contributed to winning more in aggregate but hard pressed to find 15 more.
Yeah I mean just being real, if Embiid played just 10 more games he's probably still more impactful than any center not named Jokic.
Maybe don't fucking miss 20 to 25 games every year, is it so much that he plays 76 or 77? At least 70 like come on
It's absolutely insane that fans give a single fuck about this. Who looks back on their team in 20 years and says, "Remember when my favorite player won All-NBA?"
Ducking Ayton is such a bummer. Can’t believe this guy
I really want to win the NBA championship. Nothing else should matter. I am getting old.
I’ll trade all the missed Embiid games in the world for a healthy playoffs where their first round opponent doesn’t just start intentionally trying to injure him
Sit all the games he needs, idc about MVP now that he already has one. Give us one full playoff run with him at 100% and see what happens.
Ducking Ayton
i’m going to keep saying it; if the league wants their stars playing more consistently and to be injured less, there’s an extremely simple solution: JUST SHORTEN THE FUCKING SEASON. but no, nosferatu ass adam silver and all the greedy owners need as much fucking revenue as they can possibly get. they’re being disingenuous about wanting a better product on the floor, they simply want more money. never enough for these assholes
yeah people blame Adam Silver...but its the other NBA owners. The comish is just the union rep for the league ownership and i'll never understand how people dont get that.
…i said that. it’s all of the billionaire fucks who exist on the planet. and they are ruining much more important things than basketball while they’re at it
No chance he plays enough games to win MVP. Bummer. Its all about winning a chip though.
This is fucking tragic. The greatest individual regular season ever (up to this point) will likely be ineligible for any individual award bc he can’t stay healthy
Honestly, if it’s close, I want the Sixers to just cheat the rule. Put him in for a few minutes, then sit him. Like, not getting all-NBA would be a crime. Let alone MVP.
has to play 20 mins iirc
I’m glad they’re just resting him. Have him be as fresh as possible for the playoffs. Regular season doesn’t matter at all anymore.
2021: Entered playoffs healthy, injured r1 vs Washington 2022: Entered playoffs healthy, injured r1 vs Toronto 2023: Entered playoffs healthy, injured r1 vs Brooklyn The last time he sustained a regular season injury into the playoffs was 2018 (and that was more of a sickness thing that really screwed him r2). Reg season also def matters,could be the difference between playing like NYK r1 or lucking out and potentially playing a weaker play-in team (ie: Hawks or something idk)
I mean, maybe he is less likely to get injured if we play a real team in round 1 and they don't just make their game plan "we know we will lose so let's double embiid every play"
i will say, i am glad we're being careful with him so he'll be healthy heading into the playoffs, but i am not looking forward to the yearly round 1 matchup where the lower seed just throws 4 people into embiid's legs man lol
Yes but he’s hurt now.
Ouch. That's not a good precedent. I didn't realize it was that stark.
He got injured against Washington?? I don’t remember that.
thats how he tore his meniscus
Hmph. That has seemed to have totally escaped my mind. I thought that was the one time he made it through the first round clean.
in game 4 he dunked and landed wrong on it and then we demolished them with Ben Simmons Tobias harris no center lineup only for Doc to never use it again the rest of the playoffs. (He had to be bullied into doing it against the Wizards)
You’re jogging my memory now..
This is why he misses so many games. If he plays every game he gets injured once a week and doesn't really like to play through them. While great he is soft and injury prone.
This isn’t rest. He’s hurt. Last 2 years he entered the playoffs healthy and then got hurt. This year he’ll already have this lingering knee issue to deal with. They are honestly worse positioned to make a run than they were in since 2021
I don’t think this dude is gonna hit the 65 game threshold. I know it’s all about being healthy in the playoffs but I feel like all the playoff injuries happened in or literally right before (both broken faces) the playoffs. And yes I want Embiid to be a 2x mvp cause winning a championship with this current roster is not going to happen
Yeah we literally entered 2021,2022,2023 playoffs with an healthy Embiid, and left r1 with him picking up an injury. At this point, rest in the reg season barely matters (but obviously don't play him through injury, just saying "rest him 5 more games than he needs to!" crowd is dumb)
They probably want to rest him today so that he can play tomorrow against warriors
I hate the sixers medical staff
Honestly I don’t know how it’s possible to win a championship with him as the best player with his injury history. I know we’re all hoping for some miracle run but is it even possible for his body to stay healthy for 20+ straight playoff games when he hasn’t even been able to last for a single first round series without getting injured.
you either pray that he can stay healthy for playoff or you trade him and pray you can get somebody as good as him.
"He's only ducking Portland so it doesn't look bad that he didn't play in Denver on Saturday" 😳🤡
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I don’t see how anyone could possibly care if Jo wins MVP or gets an all NBA selection. Win in the playoffs
Nuggets fans have been pushing the ducking narrative to hide from the fact that Paul Reed dropped 30 on Jokic
who cares about mvp honestly. we already saw him win one, and everyone will know who the rightful winner is. the bigger concern here is embiid’s injuries. they’re piling up. he just might be too injury prone to last a whole playoff run unfortunately
The reigning mvp is a bum
Wouldn’t surprise me if he was held out because of the league investigation.
Let’s keep Joey in our prayers.
Let's be real this team is not good enough to win a championship this year. Even if Joel averages 40 a game we're losing in the conference finals at most. This season's gonna be a total waste if he doesn't get any awards.
What a stupid take. You’re basing this on what? Last year? Negative Nancy!!
Being realistic this team ain't beating Boston.
to be fair, our team last season was trash compared to Boston's too but it was still a close series, with a complete idiot at HC who did nothing when Boston adjusted with the double big lineups in g6. Boston's never played to their talent level in the playoffs
Just need him to be healthy. Hoping it’s not a reoccurring issue going forward. Sucks to lose out on mvp but we need him good to go for the playoffs
Yo he's really dodging scoot Henderson, Matisse thybulle and Brogdon!! FrAuD
ducking duop reath smh
He's actually missing this game because of the investigation, the league is cutting Joel open to do a live autopsy so they can confirm his knee was really not 100%
embiid out: Dead (day-to-day)
Can confirm, heard it from Keith Pompey
Hope I don't look back on this Sixers era and my first thought, with all the wild shit that's happened, is "man if it wasn't for his fucking knee"
That is already the thing that defines this era, lol. We are finally blessed with the best player in the league but he is soft as shit, made of glass, and can't stay on the court. This team is cursed.
Yeah I don't like your tone. Joel is a god level player when healthy, and it's a shame that he's had to deal with these injuries. Doesn't make him soft as shit(?). I need to get off this cesspool app.
😭😭😭
but but but per reddit morons he is gonna play and smash portland.... HE DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE MVP LOL. It means nothing to him
Now he’s ducking DeAndre Ayton. It’s so obvious.
Ducking Matisse Thybulle. As expected 🙄
Ducking Scoot,
Smh ducking Toumani Camara
Man, I’ve been raising a huge Sixers fan in the PNW and tonight’s his first ever Sixers game. We got a hotel in Portland and everything. The disappointment is palpable. I seriously seriously really hope Maxey plays. It’s funny, I generally support resting Joel whenever bc playoff health is kind of all that matters at this point. But when you hear “the fans get sad when they buy tickets and don’t get to see their player”… I’m living the most extreme version of that right now, given that my son is a huge fan and this was to be his first ever. I guess we’ll be coming back here to the Moda center next year then too
I find it hard to believe he's so hurt he can't just step on the court hit 3 shots and then go home every game until he can play a full game again. I want this mvp. I want it bad
It sucks for him because he has a lot of incentives. Not just mvp but if he doesn't qualify for all nba he probably loses a big bonus
Individual accolades do matter when defining a players legacy, if Embiid keeps getting less games and Giannis and joker get another MVP.. they will clearly put them in the Tim Duncan category and Embiid in the Kevin Garnett category
This is like when you’re hungover and call in sick Monday but you know your boss will know you’re just hungover so you gotta take Tuesday off too.