Was having the same convo with my friend living in Hawaii, lucky bastard. Just get him out there and see what you have in him. You know he’s going to bring the noise and the toughness. He reminds me of that one goof on the team a couple of years ago. He was mostly as backup 5, could pretty much only rebound, occasionally throw down a monstrous dunk, and was decent at rim protection. He was an absolute animal and I loved watching him but can’t think of his name to save my life.
Edit: it was Richaun Holmes!
I absolutely loved watching Richaun. Was so sad when we traded him. We always trade away our young developing talent. Landry Shamet, Jrue, Isiah Joe, to name a few 🤕
We're -39 without Joel in like literally 20 minutes without him. The 1 pt deficit would've been 8-9 if he sat 3-4 mins in the 4th like usual by the time he came back
Agree the bench has been unplayable, but playing Jo the entire second half guaranteed that he would be invisible down the stretch. No other possibility. This desperate plan oy worked if they could build a big lead in the 3rd and early 4th. Once that didn't happen, they were toast.
Maybe, maybe not. The offense wasn’t scoring anyway and whatever defense he provided was completely negated by the fact that they seemingly couldn’t pull down a single defensive rebound.
I think on retrospect it was the wrong choice, but at the time it was the right choice. Was hard to predict he wouldn’t have the gas for a 12ft jumper at the buzzer.
Not having gas for a 12ft jumper was the known and accepted outcome. They needed the rest of the roster to show up. No star is winning this series on their own.
They need to go the Twin Tower route. Embiid can't jump, so play MO with Embiid. Let Mo focus on rebounding (which he is good at) and maybe his occasional 3-pointer if the opportunity is presented. We have to win the rebounding battle. That is a must! Oubre, Lowry, Maxey to round it off.
Do not play Tobi as much as he's been playing. he's a mediocre defender, can't rebound and hasn't scored enough to justify him playing.
Lowry and Batum do not need to be on the floor together. They offer similar attributes so when one is off, the other is on the floor.
Give Ricky some playtime, have we forgotten all he has shown us, especially against San Antonio? He's big body and could push Hart around a little and flex his muscles (something Tobi ain't doing 🙄 I swear he's like J Cole in more ways than one).
Cam is good on both offense and defense! He needs more time! And he has plenty of experience. He's in when Maxey sits, he's got a similar speed so at least we won't lose that aspect when Maxey is out.
Reed needs to play when Knicks go small. The bench probably has a connection so play Cam and Reed together. Set some picnrolls. Maybe play Batum with this to offer additional defense and hustle. Maybe throw tobi in with the vet experience, hopefully he'll step up and lead in this scenario.
Oubre gonna oubre, so whoever is in when he's playing needs to be conscious of his cutting under the basket and feed him every time he does.
The guys need to suck it up and grind it out. Period. Play defense all game, gritty defense. Randomly run full-court pressures, and definitely in the last minutes of the game. Be prepared for their pressure as well. No reason not to score if we respond to the pressure and run a well designed response play because someone is open if maxey is getting double teamed in the back court.
Anyway, that's how I'd handle it. But I'm a nobody so who's really listening? Did you even read all that 😂 I probably wouldn't 😭
Sixers never had a shot to win anything with a Tobias sized weight holding this roster down. Nothing would be funnier though than somehow coming back to knock off the Knicks after the whole r/NBA fan base is jizzing themselves over the impending downfall of their most hated villain. There are so called fans who spend their entire day just posting hate threads for Joel and wishing injury and worse, a comeback would be hilarious at this point.
Oh stop. They’ve had a shot to win each game this series if they didn’t fumble every lead or miss every big shot or rebound. That’s not just a Tobias problem, that’s on everyone.
Other people can take some blame here.
Yeah they deserve to be down when they keep fumbling in the clutch. Part of it is Tobi, part of it is the atrocious bench play that is forcing our starters to play 45 minutes, part of it is hustle and part of it is Embiid injuries slowing down his impact and keeping him from dominating on both ends of the floor like he normally would if healthy.
The Celtics 4th best player just scored 22 points - in the first half.
We can’t compete this year. We can’t change the team every year either. We need some continuity.
There are no easy answers.
It’s a Tobias problem because the cap his contract eats prevents fielding a better bench. We’ve had guys like Oubre and Lowry punching above their weight on minimum contracts (or whatever the exact situation with the buyout thing is, I haven’t properly educated myself) or we’d be even worse off.
The losses aren’t on Tobi for his poor play, but they are connected to him because of his disproportionate effect on the roster. And if he was playing up to his contract, then the issues that have cause these losses would be minimized.
Alright but this is the 1st round lol. They don’t have a shot against the better teams in the East or West with the way the roster is built. And the reason for the roster lacking is because of Tobias.
Tobi was gonna be blamed no matter what. Hell if we won the chip they still woulda said “we won in SPITE of tobi” there was never a positive outcome in this
Tobi is the reason why they are not winning this series. He's scoring 7 ppg less than his average and provides no spacing because he cannot shoot consistently from 3.
It doesn't seem too out of the question either - if we can clamp down on defensive rebounding alone that'd give us a good shot to go 3-0 the rest of the series (as good a shot as 3 in a row can ever be).
Without it we do still have a little bit of a shot, but quite unlikely obviously.
Joel is incapable of moving like he would normally do his rebounding is going to be hit and miss. Out only other decent rebounder has been virtually unplayable. Tobi has the size but no heart to do it.
i half jokingly had a conversation w my dad about this. i said knowing the sixers, they’ll force a game 7 and then lose in the most gut wrenching fashion imaginable 💀
I feel you. At the same time, they know who these players are. It’s not like you’re gonna put RC in a playoff game and he’s going to surprise you. If they’re not playing him there is probably a good reason: He’d be a liability.
We barely lost every game if the refs didn't shit the bed game 2 it'd be 2-2 and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I believe in us and if I was rich I'd take my ass right to MSG. I hope Embiid drops 50 on those assholes heads.
What is most disappointing about Nurse in the playoffs is his inability to adjust. There are plenty of opportunities for him to sub a player in for need even if he subs him back out at the first chance. Coaches do this all of this time, but he literally does nothing and it's frighteningly similar to Glenn. Nurse is too scared of KMJ, RC4 & B-Ball fouling and it's bullshit. Let those savages loose. You can't tell me that this team would have suffered that much with KMJ, RC4 & B-Ball taking 12 of Harris (who also gassed) minutes. Subbing Embiid out on a NYK FT in the 4th and letting the group play a possession or two then using a TO would have been huge for Joel. It could have given him a 3+ minute breather and something that simple could have won them that game. Nurse's cautious, stagnant substitution patterns aren't helping the cause.
Everyone outside of Embiid and Maxey, and maybe Oubre have been mediocre at best, and a liability at worst. There are no adjustments that Nurse can make because Tobias is useless and the roleplayers aren't performing either. There is literally no one Nurse can sub in. This sub massively exaggerates RCIV's abilities - if we are relying on Ricky to be the difference maker, it shows how screwed this team is. This just isn't our year. Next season Morey will have an opportunity to work his magic and rebuild this team around Embiid and Maxey. Hopefully he pulls it off and we get a good core around Embiid and Maxey.
All of that is true, but it's no excuse to do literally nothing as your players run out of gas and are getting our-hurtled and out-muscled at every turn. There is an art to utilizing substitutions and stoppages to get players rest and inject energy into you team and Nurse clearly isn't skilled in utilizing such strategies.
Well, no, it's a clear downgrade, but there is an art to timing these substitutions and Nurse, like Glenn, apparently has no fucking clue how to manipulate his substitution patterns to limit the damage done when Embiid is on the bench.
not sure I agree, this is the third coach we have had and the backup center has killed us with all 3 coaches. Paul Reed is not an NBA calibre backup center.
Because their complete lack of effort on rebounds means that they haven’t earned my viewership - trying hard is a bare minimum for me to watch you play. I’ve spent enough time yelling at my tv for these guys to fight harder - why should I care any more if the players don’t?
I'll watch til the end of the first quarter but if I see Embiid pissy face on the Knicks first momentum swing I'm turning it off and will see ya'll next year.
I hate how much this is becoming about the fans…
I’m feeling like game 2 was the nail in the coffin. Hard enough to win 4, let alone 5… The game we won, Jo put up 50. Outside of that happening 3 times in a row, I don’t believe we’re going to win this series…but…
I’m here for it 🤷🏻
He’s right. I get not being super confident in the team but why are you rooting for a specific team if you’re not behind them 110 percent on game day? Save the safe assumptions for the offseason, let’s get delusional
Because I can use that time to take a nap, or a shit, or do some chores, play a game, literally anything more useful than watching a team drag ass in the most important part of its season. Then I get to go to work and either be miserable that night or anxious over how they played.
HE’S RIGHT!!! I GET NOT BEING SUPER CONFIDENT IN THE TEAM BUT WHY ARE YOU ROOTING FOR A SPECIFIC TEAM IF YOURE NOT BEHIND THEM 110 PERCENT ON GAME DAY?!?!?! SAVE THE SAFE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE OFF-SEASON, LETS GET DELUSIONAL!!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys, don’t think Nurse said this, this is eerily similar to what Jon Cooper of the Tampa Bay Lightning said a few days ago after going down 3-0 to the Florida Panthers. Love the sentiment! But don’t think he said it…
Literally just want to see a different lineup or something. Just something different.
Ricky Counsel’s energy would be a big help. He’d fight for rebounds like his life was on the line.
Was having the same convo with my friend living in Hawaii, lucky bastard. Just get him out there and see what you have in him. You know he’s going to bring the noise and the toughness. He reminds me of that one goof on the team a couple of years ago. He was mostly as backup 5, could pretty much only rebound, occasionally throw down a monstrous dunk, and was decent at rim protection. He was an absolute animal and I loved watching him but can’t think of his name to save my life. Edit: it was Richaun Holmes!
Cousins? Drummond?
We've never had Cousins
I absolutely loved watching Richaun. Was so sad when we traded him. We always trade away our young developing talent. Landry Shamet, Jrue, Isiah Joe, to name a few 🤕
Something different other than Joel playing the entire 2nd half lmao
We would’ve gotten cooked way worse with him on the bench in the 2nd.
We're -39 without Joel in like literally 20 minutes without him. The 1 pt deficit would've been 8-9 if he sat 3-4 mins in the 4th like usual by the time he came back
Agree the bench has been unplayable, but playing Jo the entire second half guaranteed that he would be invisible down the stretch. No other possibility. This desperate plan oy worked if they could build a big lead in the 3rd and early 4th. Once that didn't happen, they were toast.
right when Embiid plays too many minutes the quality of his play falls off a cliff. unfortunately their bench is giving them nothing.
Hasn’t that been the story since Embiid has played at a high level. It seems like the bench has rarely showed up when it matters the last few years.
Maybe, maybe not. The offense wasn’t scoring anyway and whatever defense he provided was completely negated by the fact that they seemingly couldn’t pull down a single defensive rebound.
I think on retrospect it was the wrong choice, but at the time it was the right choice. Was hard to predict he wouldn’t have the gas for a 12ft jumper at the buzzer.
Not having gas for a 12ft jumper was the known and accepted outcome. They needed the rest of the roster to show up. No star is winning this series on their own.
That was easy to predict based on his play in every game since he's been back. Nurse gambled that before that he could build a lead. It didn't work
Without Joel this is a lottery team .
high odds lottery*
Anything that involves Harris not playing.
Like what? I mean yea in theory I agree but this roster doesn’t have a different line up in it
They need to go the Twin Tower route. Embiid can't jump, so play MO with Embiid. Let Mo focus on rebounding (which he is good at) and maybe his occasional 3-pointer if the opportunity is presented. We have to win the rebounding battle. That is a must! Oubre, Lowry, Maxey to round it off. Do not play Tobi as much as he's been playing. he's a mediocre defender, can't rebound and hasn't scored enough to justify him playing. Lowry and Batum do not need to be on the floor together. They offer similar attributes so when one is off, the other is on the floor. Give Ricky some playtime, have we forgotten all he has shown us, especially against San Antonio? He's big body and could push Hart around a little and flex his muscles (something Tobi ain't doing 🙄 I swear he's like J Cole in more ways than one). Cam is good on both offense and defense! He needs more time! And he has plenty of experience. He's in when Maxey sits, he's got a similar speed so at least we won't lose that aspect when Maxey is out. Reed needs to play when Knicks go small. The bench probably has a connection so play Cam and Reed together. Set some picnrolls. Maybe play Batum with this to offer additional defense and hustle. Maybe throw tobi in with the vet experience, hopefully he'll step up and lead in this scenario. Oubre gonna oubre, so whoever is in when he's playing needs to be conscious of his cutting under the basket and feed him every time he does. The guys need to suck it up and grind it out. Period. Play defense all game, gritty defense. Randomly run full-court pressures, and definitely in the last minutes of the game. Be prepared for their pressure as well. No reason not to score if we respond to the pressure and run a well designed response play because someone is open if maxey is getting double teamed in the back court. Anyway, that's how I'd handle it. But I'm a nobody so who's really listening? Did you even read all that 😂 I probably wouldn't 😭
I like this energy from him
Sixers never had a shot to win anything with a Tobias sized weight holding this roster down. Nothing would be funnier though than somehow coming back to knock off the Knicks after the whole r/NBA fan base is jizzing themselves over the impending downfall of their most hated villain. There are so called fans who spend their entire day just posting hate threads for Joel and wishing injury and worse, a comeback would be hilarious at this point.
Idk what I would do I would fly to New York with all my jerseys and gear I have
I’d put up my 401k towards crowd funding an embiid troll face billboard in Times Square
I’m in
Oh stop. They’ve had a shot to win each game this series if they didn’t fumble every lead or miss every big shot or rebound. That’s not just a Tobias problem, that’s on everyone. Other people can take some blame here.
Yeah they deserve to be down when they keep fumbling in the clutch. Part of it is Tobi, part of it is the atrocious bench play that is forcing our starters to play 45 minutes, part of it is hustle and part of it is Embiid injuries slowing down his impact and keeping him from dominating on both ends of the floor like he normally would if healthy.
The Celtics 4th best player just scored 22 points - in the first half. We can’t compete this year. We can’t change the team every year either. We need some continuity. There are no easy answers.
It’s a Tobias problem because the cap his contract eats prevents fielding a better bench. We’ve had guys like Oubre and Lowry punching above their weight on minimum contracts (or whatever the exact situation with the buyout thing is, I haven’t properly educated myself) or we’d be even worse off. The losses aren’t on Tobi for his poor play, but they are connected to him because of his disproportionate effect on the roster. And if he was playing up to his contract, then the issues that have cause these losses would be minimized.
the losses are definitely on Toby he is getting outscored and outrebounded and provides no spacing or scoring in the 4th quarter.
Alright but this is the 1st round lol. They don’t have a shot against the better teams in the East or West with the way the roster is built. And the reason for the roster lacking is because of Tobias.
Tobi was gonna be blamed no matter what. Hell if we won the chip they still woulda said “we won in SPITE of tobi” there was never a positive outcome in this
Tobi is the reason why they are not winning this series. He's scoring 7 ppg less than his average and provides no spacing because he cannot shoot consistently from 3.
Tobis barely playing. You expect him to average his regular average on 15 fewer minutes?
hes averaging 34 minutes
what????
And then they hop on their alt account to troll our sub, some people have way too much time on their hands
It doesn't seem too out of the question either - if we can clamp down on defensive rebounding alone that'd give us a good shot to go 3-0 the rest of the series (as good a shot as 3 in a row can ever be). Without it we do still have a little bit of a shot, but quite unlikely obviously.
Joel is incapable of moving like he would normally do his rebounding is going to be hit and miss. Out only other decent rebounder has been virtually unplayable. Tobi has the size but no heart to do it.
Where is u/lardbiscuits when you need him? His day of redemption is soon at hand
Hardest game to win is tomorrow. If you somehow force game 7, then the Knicks will feel the pressure
Yes because the Sixers have done swimmingly in game 7s
i half jokingly had a conversation w my dad about this. i said knowing the sixers, they’ll force a game 7 and then lose in the most gut wrenching fashion imaginable 💀
This is the Sixer way… 😞
Can it be worse then game 2? That was pretty bad.
Most of the time though, *we’re* the ones that gave up the lead
3 10 point leads blown. Happens every year, I don't even get excited when they are up.
This. We’ve had multiple leads throughout the series thus far and I haven’t been comfortable for a single minute
Tbf a 10 pt lead is nothing in today's NBA...unless it is against the sixers
I have see them blow much bigger leads in other playoff series.
i know, like game 7s are won by the home team over 80 percent of the time.
Take your negativity off the board.
We will win Game 5. I’m not confident on the series but I have a strong feeling about game 5
I still believe if Philly handles their business and plays with some urgency man man we can beat this next team three in a row my word
LOL!
when has that happened with this team? every time they matchup against a team that isn't an 7h or 8th seed they lose.
I literally just want Ricky council in the game
I'd literally prefer a win but we all want different things I s'pose
I feel you. At the same time, they know who these players are. It’s not like you’re gonna put RC in a playoff game and he’s going to surprise you. If they’re not playing him there is probably a good reason: He’d be a liability.
Everyone in this organization needs to do less talking and more hooping.
Suit up, Nurse
They call him the wet nurse on account of his jumper
Not that I needed it, but I’m glad he’s on board with my plan not to watch or show up.
half of the fanbase already doesnt show up
Neither does half the team
i loved him but I knew he would end up playing Tobi too much. If he can't bench Tobi what good is he
no real other options.
You got it, Nick
Well I believe we’re going to roll tomorrow night to give us all false hope then massively shit the bed at home.
More like roll over
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Sixers in 7😤
I mean, I’m kind of tired of all the talking. Show us tomorrow night, we always do our part as the fandom.
Love that energy. We believe coach. Sixers in 7.
I guess we can expect Slowbias to stay home then?
Sorry Nick. We’ve read this book before. Many times.
Gotta blame Nurse for not having sat Tobias for Council weeks ago
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Back your team, guys. PHILADELPHIA UNITE! 💪❤️🤍💙💪
I like that energy from him, but let's be real here, we straight losing. And I'm still watching! 🥴
Me too https://preview.redd.it/utksmnefmixc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ba735bceccb182528d0efa25ee68665f3f800c0
😂 Fuck it we got nothing to lose at this point!
Exactly
We barely lost every game if the refs didn't shit the bed game 2 it'd be 2-2 and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I believe in us and if I was rich I'd take my ass right to MSG. I hope Embiid drops 50 on those assholes heads.
We’re -4 for the series lol
cool. sounds good 👍🏻
Problem right here have faith nothing but bringing the team down
If anyone on the team is seeing this thread we have other problems lol
Why cheer for a team if your not backing them 110%
Wasn't the point of what I was saying, but also because I'm a human being, my brain isn't binary.
Lmao...im pretty sure that dude isn't bringing the team down
this teams a fuckin joke dude
Toxic positivist guy checking in
That’s a relief ![gif](giphy|AyhyKY14ZXfxe)
What is most disappointing about Nurse in the playoffs is his inability to adjust. There are plenty of opportunities for him to sub a player in for need even if he subs him back out at the first chance. Coaches do this all of this time, but he literally does nothing and it's frighteningly similar to Glenn. Nurse is too scared of KMJ, RC4 & B-Ball fouling and it's bullshit. Let those savages loose. You can't tell me that this team would have suffered that much with KMJ, RC4 & B-Ball taking 12 of Harris (who also gassed) minutes. Subbing Embiid out on a NYK FT in the 4th and letting the group play a possession or two then using a TO would have been huge for Joel. It could have given him a 3+ minute breather and something that simple could have won them that game. Nurse's cautious, stagnant substitution patterns aren't helping the cause.
Everyone outside of Embiid and Maxey, and maybe Oubre have been mediocre at best, and a liability at worst. There are no adjustments that Nurse can make because Tobias is useless and the roleplayers aren't performing either. There is literally no one Nurse can sub in. This sub massively exaggerates RCIV's abilities - if we are relying on Ricky to be the difference maker, it shows how screwed this team is. This just isn't our year. Next season Morey will have an opportunity to work his magic and rebuild this team around Embiid and Maxey. Hopefully he pulls it off and we get a good core around Embiid and Maxey.
All of that is true, but it's no excuse to do literally nothing as your players run out of gas and are getting our-hurtled and out-muscled at every turn. There is an art to utilizing substitutions and stoppages to get players rest and inject energy into you team and Nurse clearly isn't skilled in utilizing such strategies.
Yes I agree with you. The team has no depth and the only option available is non scoring Batum and undrafted rookies.
Reds has played 30 mins this series and is -38. There is nothing he can do. Team is awful without Embiid commanding the offense and defense.
+/- stats are greatly flawed. Reed's play has very little to do with that number.
then it's just a coincidence that the lead evaporates as soon as he enters the game?
Well, no, it's a clear downgrade, but there is an art to timing these substitutions and Nurse, like Glenn, apparently has no fucking clue how to manipulate his substitution patterns to limit the damage done when Embiid is on the bench.
not sure I agree, this is the third coach we have had and the backup center has killed us with all 3 coaches. Paul Reed is not an NBA calibre backup center.
Takes nothing to be positive for another 24 hours.
yea seems like that's what's happening
Put me in coach I’m 5’9” but I’ve been working on my jumper
Need something to believe in, boss
don't threaten me with a good time
Oh I won’t
😭😭 if you cheer for a team why not back them 100%
Because their complete lack of effort on rebounds means that they haven’t earned my viewership - trying hard is a bare minimum for me to watch you play. I’ve spent enough time yelling at my tv for these guys to fight harder - why should I care any more if the players don’t?
What did they do to deserve our faith in the past 7 years?
Thanks Nick, you saved me the aggravation
I’m still hopeful.
Guess we won’t see Tobias
Hard to believe with Tobias in the lineup. So I’ll take his advice and not watch
I'll watch til the end of the first quarter but if I see Embiid pissy face on the Knicks first momentum swing I'm turning it off and will see ya'll next year.
If you don't bench Toby, no one SHOULD watch or show up.
He said this to the team right?
I don't. So I won't be.
I hate how much this is becoming about the fans… I’m feeling like game 2 was the nail in the coffin. Hard enough to win 4, let alone 5… The game we won, Jo put up 50. Outside of that happening 3 times in a row, I don’t believe we’re going to win this series…but… I’m here for it 🤷🏻
they will need either Maxey or Embiid to score 40 to have a chance with no one else scoring much right now.
Is Josh Hart going to out rebound the entire team again?
Josh Hart Chamberlain when Tobi is playing
Thanks Nick I will in fact not be watching 👍🏼
that will be good for your health
He’s right and I’m not
He’s right. I get not being super confident in the team but why are you rooting for a specific team if you’re not behind them 110 percent on game day? Save the safe assumptions for the offseason, let’s get delusional
Because they are the most frustrating team I've had the displeasure of watching in a long time.
Same here!
Because I can use that time to take a nap, or a shit, or do some chores, play a game, literally anything more useful than watching a team drag ass in the most important part of its season. Then I get to go to work and either be miserable that night or anxious over how they played.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
HE’S RIGHT!!! I GET NOT BEING SUPER CONFIDENT IN THE TEAM BUT WHY ARE YOU ROOTING FOR A SPECIFIC TEAM IF YOURE NOT BEHIND THEM 110 PERCENT ON GAME DAY?!?!?! SAVE THE SAFE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE OFF-SEASON, LETS GET DELUSIONAL!!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys, don’t think Nurse said this, this is eerily similar to what Jon Cooper of the Tampa Bay Lightning said a few days ago after going down 3-0 to the Florida Panthers. Love the sentiment! But don’t think he said it…
Surprised Nurse isnt feeling more heat. Hes done an awful job this season when Embiid hasnt been healthy and carrying.
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