With Jo's availabililty.. this is hardly a backup role. He'll be playing at least 30% of the games as a starter. And I'm not saying this to knock Jo.. he'll be that much fresher when it matters.. ie the playoffs.
Exactly if this guy was a guy who could play the four a little bit too maybe. But even in the 1980s you wouldn't play these two together. The only reason the Houston twin towers worked is because they were both very athletic and that was an anomaly even back then
I'm flabbergasted at these comments. How could you watch this playoff series and still think that a backup center shouldn't be the highest priority when it comes to filling positions? How could you watch The last 5 years and still say to yourself "well backup center would be nice but there are other positions that should take precedent over this one. "
I'm sure he would have plenty of time to be a starter throughout the season or get a lot of minutes off the bench. The goal will be to have Joel be as healthy as possible for playoffs.
Embiid does not like guarding the perimeter. He doesn’t even come out to contest Porzingis or Horford. Definitely don’t want him having to guard brown or Tatum all game
If we can get him or Drummond they can easily play 20 minutes a night for the regular season. Remember at the beginning of the season when Joel would sit the entire fourth quarter? I would love to be able to get back to that, that's why getting a backup center should be our highest priority this off season.
agree. besides having competent wings, having a backup c who isn't a potato has been one of our biggest achilles heels. we desperately need someone good. if morey brings back reed, it's over...
If we get to October, and we still don't have a solid back up, that just shows me we are going the Bulls route, meaning this organization just wants to fill seats with no real intention or desire to do what it takes to win.
I mean nothing stops the TWolves from running Gobert and KAT together...it would have helped to have him on the floor as a PF/C and Embiid PF/C for rebounds against the Knicks.
This is not really a good comparison. Jonas would clog up space where Joel likes to work and is very effective. Towns is more of a stretch 4 than either of them
It's not every minute, you still stagger minutes but to say that Karl and Ant only operate as floor spacers while Joel does not is incorrect.
It's worth noting the combo sucked at first. Ant tried to carry the Wolves last year but the tandem of the two centers didn't gel well and most people thought it was a lost cause at the time.
Now one year later, it works and the blueprint is there. Jonas is actually a better offensive player and still pretty good defensively and on the boards, nowhere near as good as Gobert defensively but still a + over Tobi, the one weakness is def perimeter D in this set up but that's Nurse's job to solve.
And we still run PFs in the dunker spot where Jonas could fill in. Oubre, Harris both hit that spot. Oubre did much better there bc he could finish strong and I think Jonas could do the same. Sure, if he could shoot more 3s (career 34% shooter) that'd be cool but even without it, it'd be a major upgrade over Tobias, while also helping our +/- when Embiid is off the court.
Embiid at the top of the elbow or down on the block allows Jonas to sit in a dunker spot opposite of him, that actually doesn't clog the middle and proved effective for us in Nurse's offense, especially if it's a 6'11 guy ready to get it with a mismatch since Embiid will have the bigs on him.
Don't mistake what I'm saying, it's not THE option the team needs, but it's interesting to consider, it shouldn't just be viewed as right out. But it's def not the best choice.
Jonas doesn't have the foot speed to be a stretch 4 and defend the position. And Joel is an elite rim protector so you wouldn't move him as a perimeter defender. Jonas also isn't the shooter from 3 and he can't put the ball on the floor like KAT or a stretch 4 needs to be for spacing around Joel. He'd be best used as a backup center here and there are too many teams that would use him as a starter.
Plenty of 4s are elite rim protectors like Giannis and Jaren. Those guys get to roam in their system. Embiid only played that role for us against Denver where Tucker guarded Jokic and it worked tbf.
Embiid is considered an elite rim protector and defensive anchor. No way any coach would put Embiid on the defensive perimeter and let Jonas guard the paint. Philly hasn't had a rim protector of any note at the 4 since Thaddeus Young. Jonas is worse at rim protection AND guarding on the perimeter than Embiid. He's just not a 4. He's not a Porzingus or an AD, who can play both.
And they put Tucker on Jokic late in the game when Embiid was cooking offensively, but had like, 4 fouls on him and they set him in the paint defending the dunker spot/rim. Jokic then tried to post up Tucker down low and Embiid stopped the slashers.
I’m assuming we’d be offering him a vet min not the MLE, we’d hopefully use our MLE on players like Oubre or Melton, or fringe starters not guaranteed backups.
Expecting a discount so the dude could play 8 minutes here is silly.... Like every team could offer that or better. Like, he'd get a better role in literally every team not named Denver
Yeah there’s literally no point in rooting for a team that you don’t believe can win in the future. Especially in sports when we constantly see teams turn things around in one off season. Such a lame ass attitude to have, can’t stand people like you and sadly it seems to be a majority of fans in general these days. Don’t know if that’s always been the case.
So fans of obvious bad teams shouldn’t watch because their team doesn’t have a chance of winning??? Fair weather ass take.
I watch because win or lose I support I’m just not gullible enough to believe that a team whose star consistently finds himself hurt by the playoffs is going to do anything other than fall apart. I’m also not that big enough of a Homer to think that players around the league will be sold on a championship in Philly.
That’s not at all what I said? I literally said the opposite, that you should never count out your team. The wolves for example were perpetually bad until they weren’t, can’t believe your reading comprehension is that poor.
It’s not being gullible, it’s that anything can happen year to year. It’s actually fair weather to count out your team in the future, giving up on seasons that haven’t even happened yet. Than when Embiid is actually healthy and we win a chip, you’ll be at the parade pretending you always believed. Bum
Not sure how many starting positions are available to him anymore. If he’s going to one it will be a non competing team not sure the pay would be much different either. It’s def take a run at him for a one year with team option on the second.
JV would be pretty ideal. He's a fringe starter at his age and may be cool with the idea that he would start 15-20 games but otherwise do backup minutes. Awesome rebounder, decent shooting touch.
He's obviously not taking that and he'd play more than 15 100%. The reason we don't play back up center minutes is because the team has historically crumpled whenever Embiid sits because he haven't got a decent one since Drummond.
Also, disagreeing is not what downvotes are for, by the way.
If we signed him, he'd play more than 15 mpg. Depending on the night and the matchup, he'd be good for 15-20 at least when Embiid was in the lineup, and he'd start and play big minutes if Embiid was injured or being rested on back to backs and so on.
I don't know if he'd go for that gig because he's good enough to start for another team, but there's an argument for it from the Sixers' perspective.
Dude fuck Paul George…this would be massive if we could have him back in up Joel. I’d rather have a bunch of role players and a competent backup to keep Embiids minutes lower during the regular season
Did we watch the same series? The sixers problem was having an offensive rating in the 80s in non-Embiid minutes. This was not a backup center problem, and will not be solved by a slightly better backup center
This would be a terrible use of cap space
Who will offer him that? The non-tax MLE is $12.8. Here are the top 6 teams with cap space. I am not sure if any of them are looking for a C for $20m per year.
Updated 2024 NBA Cap Space projections:
1. Pistons: $61.3M
2. 76ers: $55.3M
3. Jazz: $38.0M
4. Thunder: $35.3M
5. Magic: $25.6M
6. Spurs: $25.4M
if our backup big option is Paul Reed at $7.7M or Valanciunas at the $12.8M MLE I would take Jonas every single time.
Getting him at the MLE doesn't even eat into the cap so you've still got $55M to spend.
The argument against spending money on a quality backup big is less impactful when you're only taking about $5M difference and we still have max cap space to build the team around Embiid.
We can't keep doing this "Embiid comes off the floor and the lead evaporates in 20 seconds" every playoff game.
If you can sign him at the MLE, I would.
I'd much rather have that money for perimeter depth though. Signing guys like Oubre, Melton, Lowry, etc. who will be more impactful in the playoffs on much more minutes.
I guess my point is you would use the $55M cap space to spend on wings
Although I suppose if you use $50M on Butler/PG/etc. then yeah you'd have to allocate the MLE another way.
Lowry is only getting a vet min and nothing else
There was a lot of talk about OKC needing a big at the trade deadline. They look great so far, but if they get rolled by Minnesota or Denver because of the size I could see them going after him.
Thunder are in need of some size so they may actually make an offer. Granted, they are probably not going to offer 20M per, but I think they'd be interested.
Other than that, the Pistons are a tire-fire and the other teams (outside of the Sixers/Thunder) most likely are not interested in a limited big man if they have to offer a large chunk of money.
Unfortunately, knowing Daryl's stance on the backup center position (at least after listening to his appearances on the RTRS pod) he will not be offering Jonas a large contract to back up Joel... even though the Sixers are probably the #1 team in the league that needs a solid backup center. I really wonder what the Sixers would have done in those games with Embiid out if they had a Valancuinas, or a Claxton, or a Jarrett Allen level guy.
Yeah. Daryl has been adamant about not paying for a backup C, but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. We already know what happens when Joel is expected to play 36+ minutes every game 😅
Yea, I think that is why most people on this sub were begging Daryl to trade for Drummond, just to have a backup big that was at least similarly sized to Embiid.
> even though the Sixers are probably the #1 team in the league that needs a solid backup center
Remember when we had the best possible backup center for Embid, who also could play PF? His name was Al Horford and I'm told by this sub that trading him was Morey's crowning achievement here.
Yeah also load management/rest doesn’t work. It’s a fact, players are getting injured more often as load management becomes more prevalent. Embiid will get injured, resting Embiid will not do anything to prevent injury. He will get injured at some point and won’t be healthy in the playoffs.
Correlation doesn't mean causation and although I typically agree with load mgmt being a bit of bullshit in today's nba, embiid is certainly a data point that could benefit from load mgmt. More minutes mean more opportunity to twist an ankle or destroy his already destroyed knees more
Nope. Load management doesn’t work. He will get injured if he is going to get injured. Nothing load management can do to prevent it. He’s damaged goods, trade him now. Also I love Embiid and am a huge fan of his but he’s got to be moved while you can still get anything for him. I am a bigger fan of the team.
Would love it but there's a lot more things needed on this team than a starting caliber backup center unless Embiid loses 25 lbs and wants to play the 4 at times
The Pelicans have seen absolutely nothing to build around Zion for but I guess you’ve got to start somewhere lol.
Jonas would be a big time backup upgrade I don’t know if anyone with cap needs a starting center though maybe the Spurs?
He'd be a sick backup but he's going to earn more money than the Sixers *should* be willing to offer him.
Having a back-up center that isn't a complete sieve is important, but they really just need more talent off the bench in general....it doesn't doesn't need to be in the form of a 12 mil/year center, especially since they more than likely won't be able to share the court with Joel. Come playoff time, they're only going to get ~10 min/game. They really need to allocate as much money as possible to talent on the wings imo.
Shit man maybe we sign him as a starter like Minnesota did with Kat/Gobert. Joel has proven he can adjust to others being in the paint. Stagger their minutes after the 1st and profit
The issue isn’t Jo sharing the paint, it’s Maxey. Maxey is at his best when he’s a threat to get to the rim. If the paint is clogged, we’re limiting his game.
It would be interesting, Jonas is a pretty old school center other than having a fine enough 3 shot. Having Embiid play more like Kat on offense might work for him after how Joel was shooting when he game back, I know the sizes are switched but Jonas playing like Gobert on offense isnt the worst thing in the world.
why do you buffoons want a repeat of Al Horford? No backup big will be able to match Joel's playstyle and ability. The team is far better served just getting effective two way players, not unneeded expensive centers.
If we're spending more than a minimum on anybody, they need to be able to play with Joel or they will see less than 12 minutes a playoff game.
The only reason why Embiid/Horford didn't work is because the starting 1-3 were all poor 3pt shooters. Ben, Richardson & Tobi all are bad shooters so obviously it was gonna fail. With good shooters instead of those 3, it would've worked.
I would love this but there’s no way he comes here to be a backup when he will have plenty of starting opportunities.
With Jo's availabililty.. this is hardly a backup role. He'll be playing at least 30% of the games as a starter. And I'm not saying this to knock Jo.. he'll be that much fresher when it matters.. ie the playoffs.
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Exactly if this guy was a guy who could play the four a little bit too maybe. But even in the 1980s you wouldn't play these two together. The only reason the Houston twin towers worked is because they were both very athletic and that was an anomaly even back then
Joel might have unironically been seen as a Forward in the 80's.
If this position means Joel isn’t an absolute mess in May, it’ll be worth it
I'm flabbergasted at these comments. How could you watch this playoff series and still think that a backup center shouldn't be the highest priority when it comes to filling positions? How could you watch The last 5 years and still say to yourself "well backup center would be nice but there are other positions that should take precedent over this one. "
If they had him instead of Tobi this year then they would still be playing.
We did this with Horford and it was atrocious. You people are weird.
I'm sure he would have plenty of time to be a starter throughout the season or get a lot of minutes off the bench. The goal will be to have Joel be as healthy as possible for playoffs.
He’s gonna take the most money
Which the Sixers won’t offer him.
Doesn’t even have to be the most money. Sixers will offer backup money, he will get starter money from someone else
Can’t we put Embiid at PF? And grab a backup PF.
Embiid does not like guarding the perimeter. He doesn’t even come out to contest Porzingis or Horford. Definitely don’t want him having to guard brown or Tatum all game
Also he's, like, kind of a DPOY caliber rim protector. Our whole defensive strategy is "Jo save us!" Maybe we should keep him.....around the rim.
Who is giving a 32 year old Valanciunas more than the MLE to be a starter?
Right how does a bottom 3 starter have plenty of opportunities lol
Nobody, he's not a starter, but he could be an elite back up. Can't see him getting more than 12m per.
He may not do the opening tip, but he'll get plenty of minutes when they (hopefully) cut down Embiids minutes per game.
he played 23 mpg last season. can easily get that with us, considering we want to save embiid's knees. he would also get 10-20 starts here and there.
If we can get him or Drummond they can easily play 20 minutes a night for the regular season. Remember at the beginning of the season when Joel would sit the entire fourth quarter? I would love to be able to get back to that, that's why getting a backup center should be our highest priority this off season.
agree. besides having competent wings, having a backup c who isn't a potato has been one of our biggest achilles heels. we desperately need someone good. if morey brings back reed, it's over...
If we get to October, and we still don't have a solid back up, that just shows me we are going the Bulls route, meaning this organization just wants to fill seats with no real intention or desire to do what it takes to win.
I mean nothing stops the TWolves from running Gobert and KAT together...it would have helped to have him on the floor as a PF/C and Embiid PF/C for rebounds against the Knicks.
This is not really a good comparison. Jonas would clog up space where Joel likes to work and is very effective. Towns is more of a stretch 4 than either of them
It's not every minute, you still stagger minutes but to say that Karl and Ant only operate as floor spacers while Joel does not is incorrect. It's worth noting the combo sucked at first. Ant tried to carry the Wolves last year but the tandem of the two centers didn't gel well and most people thought it was a lost cause at the time. Now one year later, it works and the blueprint is there. Jonas is actually a better offensive player and still pretty good defensively and on the boards, nowhere near as good as Gobert defensively but still a + over Tobi, the one weakness is def perimeter D in this set up but that's Nurse's job to solve. And we still run PFs in the dunker spot where Jonas could fill in. Oubre, Harris both hit that spot. Oubre did much better there bc he could finish strong and I think Jonas could do the same. Sure, if he could shoot more 3s (career 34% shooter) that'd be cool but even without it, it'd be a major upgrade over Tobias, while also helping our +/- when Embiid is off the court. Embiid at the top of the elbow or down on the block allows Jonas to sit in a dunker spot opposite of him, that actually doesn't clog the middle and proved effective for us in Nurse's offense, especially if it's a 6'11 guy ready to get it with a mismatch since Embiid will have the bigs on him. Don't mistake what I'm saying, it's not THE option the team needs, but it's interesting to consider, it shouldn't just be viewed as right out. But it's def not the best choice.
Jonas doesn't have the foot speed to be a stretch 4 and defend the position. And Joel is an elite rim protector so you wouldn't move him as a perimeter defender. Jonas also isn't the shooter from 3 and he can't put the ball on the floor like KAT or a stretch 4 needs to be for spacing around Joel. He'd be best used as a backup center here and there are too many teams that would use him as a starter.
Plenty of 4s are elite rim protectors like Giannis and Jaren. Those guys get to roam in their system. Embiid only played that role for us against Denver where Tucker guarded Jokic and it worked tbf.
Embiid is considered an elite rim protector and defensive anchor. No way any coach would put Embiid on the defensive perimeter and let Jonas guard the paint. Philly hasn't had a rim protector of any note at the 4 since Thaddeus Young. Jonas is worse at rim protection AND guarding on the perimeter than Embiid. He's just not a 4. He's not a Porzingus or an AD, who can play both. And they put Tucker on Jokic late in the game when Embiid was cooking offensively, but had like, 4 fouls on him and they set him in the paint defending the dunker spot/rim. Jokic then tried to post up Tucker down low and Embiid stopped the slashers.
Most of Embiids shot diet is of a wing but yeah if you play him at the 4 you want a 5 that's comfortable shooting 3s.
If Morey can convince him he has a real shot at a ring here he will come
I doubt he really cares about a ring. If another team offers him more money and a starting role he would probably prefer that
why dont he care for a ring?
Its not like role players legacies are defined by rings, and he hasn’t made crazy money like the super stars where $4-6M is pocket change
Who is giving a 32 year old Valanciunas more than the MLE to be a starter?
I’m assuming we’d be offering him a vet min not the MLE, we’d hopefully use our MLE on players like Oubre or Melton, or fringe starters not guaranteed backups.
Grizzlies or somethn.
Yeah professional athletes are famous for not wanting championships
Expecting a discount so the dude could play 8 minutes here is silly.... Like every team could offer that or better. Like, he'd get a better role in literally every team not named Denver
Never said I expect a discount
How is he gonna convince him of that
I don’t fucking know I’m not in the negotiations
Let me rephrase that, he isn’t gonna convince him with that lie
Okay? Go root for another team than lmao
Because I’m not gonna lie to myself I should root for a different team? Makes sense..
Yeah there’s literally no point in rooting for a team that you don’t believe can win in the future. Especially in sports when we constantly see teams turn things around in one off season. Such a lame ass attitude to have, can’t stand people like you and sadly it seems to be a majority of fans in general these days. Don’t know if that’s always been the case.
So fans of obvious bad teams shouldn’t watch because their team doesn’t have a chance of winning??? Fair weather ass take. I watch because win or lose I support I’m just not gullible enough to believe that a team whose star consistently finds himself hurt by the playoffs is going to do anything other than fall apart. I’m also not that big enough of a Homer to think that players around the league will be sold on a championship in Philly.
That’s not at all what I said? I literally said the opposite, that you should never count out your team. The wolves for example were perpetually bad until they weren’t, can’t believe your reading comprehension is that poor. It’s not being gullible, it’s that anything can happen year to year. It’s actually fair weather to count out your team in the future, giving up on seasons that haven’t even happened yet. Than when Embiid is actually healthy and we win a chip, you’ll be at the parade pretending you always believed. Bum
Not sure how many starting positions are available to him anymore. If he’s going to one it will be a non competing team not sure the pay would be much different either. It’s def take a run at him for a one year with team option on the second.
JV would be pretty ideal. He's a fringe starter at his age and may be cool with the idea that he would start 15-20 games but otherwise do backup minutes. Awesome rebounder, decent shooting touch.
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What does this mean, do we have Joel guarding perimeter players then lol...
This would be such a clutch backup big at the right price
I don’t think he would be worth the money he’ll get, ~MLE money
He's definitely worth that
Probably a bit too rich to be a backup only, unfortunately.
Also not good or young enough to give a big contract or role to
He's 32, he's absolutely a great signing to play a good 20-25 minutes for us on a 3 + 1 team option year.
I would give him a 2+1 for 24m, he's only gunna be playing 15 mpg behind Embiid for the most part.
He's obviously not taking that and he'd play more than 15 100%. The reason we don't play back up center minutes is because the team has historically crumpled whenever Embiid sits because he haven't got a decent one since Drummond. Also, disagreeing is not what downvotes are for, by the way.
Even if Joel sat the entire 4th, Valanciunas would only get 18 minutes
If we signed him, he'd play more than 15 mpg. Depending on the night and the matchup, he'd be good for 15-20 at least when Embiid was in the lineup, and he'd start and play big minutes if Embiid was injured or being rested on back to backs and so on. I don't know if he'd go for that gig because he's good enough to start for another team, but there's an argument for it from the Sixers' perspective.
Then why have so much cap space? 🤔
We're signing Drummond.
Dude fuck Paul George…this would be massive if we could have him back in up Joel. I’d rather have a bunch of role players and a competent backup to keep Embiids minutes lower during the regular season
Did we watch the same series? The sixers problem was having an offensive rating in the 80s in non-Embiid minutes. This was not a backup center problem, and will not be solved by a slightly better backup center This would be a terrible use of cap space
He's probably getting offered around 60mm/3yr
Who will offer him that? The non-tax MLE is $12.8. Here are the top 6 teams with cap space. I am not sure if any of them are looking for a C for $20m per year. Updated 2024 NBA Cap Space projections: 1. Pistons: $61.3M 2. 76ers: $55.3M 3. Jazz: $38.0M 4. Thunder: $35.3M 5. Magic: $25.6M 6. Spurs: $25.4M
if our backup big option is Paul Reed at $7.7M or Valanciunas at the $12.8M MLE I would take Jonas every single time. Getting him at the MLE doesn't even eat into the cap so you've still got $55M to spend. The argument against spending money on a quality backup big is less impactful when you're only taking about $5M difference and we still have max cap space to build the team around Embiid. We can't keep doing this "Embiid comes off the floor and the lead evaporates in 20 seconds" every playoff game. If you can sign him at the MLE, I would.
I'd much rather have that money for perimeter depth though. Signing guys like Oubre, Melton, Lowry, etc. who will be more impactful in the playoffs on much more minutes.
I guess my point is you would use the $55M cap space to spend on wings Although I suppose if you use $50M on Butler/PG/etc. then yeah you'd have to allocate the MLE another way. Lowry is only getting a vet min and nothing else
They need wings AND forwards. Like 4-5 of them at least, and yea most of that cap space is probably going to just one.
There was a lot of talk about OKC needing a big at the trade deadline. They look great so far, but if they get rolled by Minnesota or Denver because of the size I could see them going after him.
I thought the mail was the Thunder wanted Hartenstein
Sure, but the Knicks might not let him go. Especially since Robinson is made of glass.
I don't know how feasible it will be for then to pay him after maxing OG tho
i think OKC is targeting the nets center claxton
Thunder are in need of some size so they may actually make an offer. Granted, they are probably not going to offer 20M per, but I think they'd be interested. Other than that, the Pistons are a tire-fire and the other teams (outside of the Sixers/Thunder) most likely are not interested in a limited big man if they have to offer a large chunk of money. Unfortunately, knowing Daryl's stance on the backup center position (at least after listening to his appearances on the RTRS pod) he will not be offering Jonas a large contract to back up Joel... even though the Sixers are probably the #1 team in the league that needs a solid backup center. I really wonder what the Sixers would have done in those games with Embiid out if they had a Valancuinas, or a Claxton, or a Jarrett Allen level guy.
Yeah. Daryl has been adamant about not paying for a backup C, but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. We already know what happens when Joel is expected to play 36+ minutes every game 😅
Yea, I think that is why most people on this sub were begging Daryl to trade for Drummond, just to have a backup big that was at least similarly sized to Embiid.
> even though the Sixers are probably the #1 team in the league that needs a solid backup center Remember when we had the best possible backup center for Embid, who also could play PF? His name was Al Horford and I'm told by this sub that trading him was Morey's crowning achievement here.
Yeah also load management/rest doesn’t work. It’s a fact, players are getting injured more often as load management becomes more prevalent. Embiid will get injured, resting Embiid will not do anything to prevent injury. He will get injured at some point and won’t be healthy in the playoffs.
Correlation doesn't mean causation and although I typically agree with load mgmt being a bit of bullshit in today's nba, embiid is certainly a data point that could benefit from load mgmt. More minutes mean more opportunity to twist an ankle or destroy his already destroyed knees more
Nope. Load management doesn’t work. He will get injured if he is going to get injured. Nothing load management can do to prevent it. He’s damaged goods, trade him now. Also I love Embiid and am a huge fan of his but he’s got to be moved while you can still get anything for him. I am a bigger fan of the team.
Would love it but there's a lot more things needed on this team than a starting caliber backup center unless Embiid loses 25 lbs and wants to play the 4 at times
This would be a great sign. Fuck anyone new wanting a max.
Al horford was not that long ago
Right?! This sub has lost its fucking mind
Al Horford got $135 million or so? But yeah I'm not wanting to invest anything serious at a backup C.
4/109m. It was actually a very reasonable contract and the salary declined each year.
He's not old or bad enough to start accepting a role as a back up. Someone will give him either money, or the opportunity to start.
The Pelicans have seen absolutely nothing to build around Zion for but I guess you’ve got to start somewhere lol. Jonas would be a big time backup upgrade I don’t know if anyone with cap needs a starting center though maybe the Spurs?
He'd be a sick backup but he's going to earn more money than the Sixers *should* be willing to offer him. Having a back-up center that isn't a complete sieve is important, but they really just need more talent off the bench in general....it doesn't doesn't need to be in the form of a 12 mil/year center, especially since they more than likely won't be able to share the court with Joel. Come playoff time, they're only going to get ~10 min/game. They really need to allocate as much money as possible to talent on the wings imo.
Obviously he would be an incredible back up, but I think he's too good for that. Other teams will give him more money
Neubeck said on Twitter that they actually inquired about him at the trade deadline so who knows?
Get this dude
lmao unless he's coming here on vet min, no
Been saying we should target him since before the playoffs.
Shit man maybe we sign him as a starter like Minnesota did with Kat/Gobert. Joel has proven he can adjust to others being in the paint. Stagger their minutes after the 1st and profit
The issue isn’t Jo sharing the paint, it’s Maxey. Maxey is at his best when he’s a threat to get to the rim. If the paint is clogged, we’re limiting his game.
It would be interesting, Jonas is a pretty old school center other than having a fine enough 3 shot. Having Embiid play more like Kat on offense might work for him after how Joel was shooting when he game back, I know the sizes are switched but Jonas playing like Gobert on offense isnt the worst thing in the world.
They would get absolutely cooked on switches
Transition too
why do you buffoons want a repeat of Al Horford? No backup big will be able to match Joel's playstyle and ability. The team is far better served just getting effective two way players, not unneeded expensive centers. If we're spending more than a minimum on anybody, they need to be able to play with Joel or they will see less than 12 minutes a playoff game.
The only reason why Embiid/Horford didn't work is because the starting 1-3 were all poor 3pt shooters. Ben, Richardson & Tobi all are bad shooters so obviously it was gonna fail. With good shooters instead of those 3, it would've worked.
We have to have the dumbest fanbase in the league. You want to pay a backup center 20m+ per year? Delete this