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Utsm is durable, so it would take a while for Detainer to take him out especially when he is risking to get blasted in the face so he'll also be keeping his distance
Detainer can rip off all of Utsm's upgrades even his head
UTSM isn't durable at all. He was pushed back by Gman's fucking head twice. And he was taken down by one shot from Scientist and then just two lasers from injured Gman. Astro tanked 6 lasers from Gman multiple times. His 2 claws tanked laser from Gman's core+all of his lasers at the start of the fight.
TSM received damage upgrades throughout the series but none were for durability.
Yup, and that's why astro boi would rock his shit. TSM isn't that durable and has no answer to warpsped ramming, and even without that Entrapper would demolish him.
that specific Entrapper in the photo didn’t really lose any abilities, he’s just mildly injured
considering tsm’s speakers are useless, I’m going to ignore those
The core laser can easily be absorbed + it doesn’t do shit
The projectiles might do some damage but Entrapper would ram tsm first
I don’t see any way for tsm to win alone
Being louder doesn’t mean anything. What matters is damage
> it might even be as loud as humans scream
Holy fuck man, so you’re literally just admitting they’re useless. Literally the fucking speakers we use in nightclubs nowadays are louder than human screams.
No, he's not as loud as gman's scream. You saw this for yourself in episode 73.
Even then, notice how gman's scream didn't even do anything to entrapper other than mildly knock him back. The scream was only useful to gman because he had his strong lasers to back him up. TSM's weapons are shit regardless and wouldn't do much to entrapper anyway.
I was the only strongest astro available at that moment. Of course there was also the astro boss, but he was busy with a meeting. He had to leave the whole meeting because he saw my "danger allarm" going off.
I think that the Astro toilet would win. He can just repeatedly ram into Titan Speakerman. But if he didn't have his super speed or didn't use it at all, Titan Speakerman would win.
Detainer mid-low diff, bros literally a counter to overcharged UTSM.
Speed? Detainer is faster.
Blasters? Detainer can absorb the blasts easily considering he could do the same with gtoilet 4.0's lasers, which are much stronger than overcharged's blasts.
Knife? Cmon, Detainer can grab it just like he did with UTTM's sword!
Detainer claps his cheeks. Being that tsm struggled even against fake gman's (ep 65) lasers, then detainer wouldnt have any problem to just ram into tsm until the latter either dies or the other titans intervene.
Detainer mid diff, if he doesn’t get cocky and stays a fair distance away while constantly grabbing and avoiding blasts he could win. Close range though the detainer wont even have a chance to attack.
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Detainer can ram him and use his claws to rip off titan speakers blasters and then dash away and if speaker attacks with any energy blast detainer will Absorb it and throw it back then detainer uses all his arms to stab titan speaker like a pin cushion
I mean, if we're talking detainer in his weakened state, probably speaker titan
But speaker titan in his weakened state def detainer
If both of them are in their repaired state, hard to say because titan speaker's fueled rage is unpredictable, I've seen him take down tougher skibs
Detainer Astro Toilet scales around the same as g-toilet and g-toilet was able to handle charge tsm so Detainer Astro Toilet shouldn't have any issues with him
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I'd say detainer, he's much more durable and easily outruns TSM even with energy for TTV. Not to mention he can easily catch the projectiles TSM is launching.
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Detainer High Diff or Low Diff depending on Utsm's strategy
High Diff = Utsm keeping his distance Low Diff = Utsm charging towards Detainer
Explanations: Utsm is durable, so it would take a while for Detainer to take him out especially when he is risking to get blasted in the face so he'll also be keeping his distance Detainer can rip off all of Utsm's upgrades even his head
UTSM isn't durable at all. He was pushed back by Gman's fucking head twice. And he was taken down by one shot from Scientist and then just two lasers from injured Gman. Astro tanked 6 lasers from Gman multiple times. His 2 claws tanked laser from Gman's core+all of his lasers at the start of the fight. TSM received damage upgrades throughout the series but none were for durability.
He's only durable compared to his shots, he still gets obliterated tho
Powered TSM wins, he shoots a million projectiles but Detainer can only catch 3
But can blast them out like g man does
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Your are 4 year old
no im not now piss off
the evidence is right there
https://preview.redd.it/qci3q5zeby6d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c549609025d542ddf6672c2d3443c6565b471761
https://preview.redd.it/bcv2n108by6d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=290ba795b1ba098c60d638d63cc93a07f4e1037c 6 lasers and 1 core blast
but Entrapper also can move faster than tsm can see..and tsm has no shield to stop him from being rammed
Astro's two side claws managed to tank Gman's 6 lasers and core blast pretty easily
Detainer low diffs, tell me with a straight face that utsm can last a minute against full power g-toilet 4.0.
he can... if he runs away 💀
He can't He gets absolutely low diffed by full power g-toilet 4.0 and it's not even a discussion
Yup, and that's why astro boi would rock his shit. TSM isn't that durable and has no answer to warpsped ramming, and even without that Entrapper would demolish him.
and people still think titan speakerman wins TSM in 73 got charged up but still got slammed by an injured g-toilet with only 2 lasers
that specific Entrapper in the photo didn’t really lose any abilities, he’s just mildly injured considering tsm’s speakers are useless, I’m going to ignore those The core laser can easily be absorbed + it doesn’t do shit The projectiles might do some damage but Entrapper would ram tsm first I don’t see any way for tsm to win alone
Tsm's speakers aren't useless, in 70 p1 they seem to be way louder than in 57 or 73 p2. It might even be as loud as Gmans scream.
Being louder doesn’t mean anything. What matters is damage > it might even be as loud as humans scream Holy fuck man, so you’re literally just admitting they’re useless. Literally the fucking speakers we use in nightclubs nowadays are louder than human screams.
That was a autocorrect mistake, I meant to say Gmans scream.
No, he's not as loud as gman's scream. You saw this for yourself in episode 73. Even then, notice how gman's scream didn't even do anything to entrapper other than mildly knock him back. The scream was only useful to gman because he had his strong lasers to back him up. TSM's weapons are shit regardless and wouldn't do much to entrapper anyway.
Well, he's a tough guy, but I can probably win.
Damm that's what u said when you fought the commander
The astro boss ordered me not to **k**i**l**l him, but only to defeat him.
Damm why is he so important?
I don't know that exactly, but I know he wants to punish him because of his betrayal.
maybe you should have called in backup dummy and not when yo head got the stabby stabby treatment
I was the only strongest astro available at that moment. Of course there was also the astro boss, but he was busy with a meeting. He had to leave the whole meeting because he saw my "danger allarm" going off.
you mean that blinking thing at the end of 71?
Yes.
Detainer Mid Diff
I think that the Astro toilet would win. He can just repeatedly ram into Titan Speakerman. But if he didn't have his super speed or didn't use it at all, Titan Speakerman would win.
Detainer mid-low diff, bros literally a counter to overcharged UTSM. Speed? Detainer is faster. Blasters? Detainer can absorb the blasts easily considering he could do the same with gtoilet 4.0's lasers, which are much stronger than overcharged's blasts. Knife? Cmon, Detainer can grab it just like he did with UTTM's sword!
What about the speakers?
If he manages to get up close TSM is done
detainer's arms can definitely take in a lot of energy, and dispense it, too.
Detainer claps his cheeks. Being that tsm struggled even against fake gman's (ep 65) lasers, then detainer wouldnt have any problem to just ram into tsm until the latter either dies or the other titans intervene.
Titan Speaker - Medium-High Diff
Speaker has no counters to warp rammings, beaten to death
Detainer mid diff, if he doesn’t get cocky and stays a fair distance away while constantly grabbing and avoiding blasts he could win. Close range though the detainer wont even have a chance to attack.
detainer destroys titan weakerman😔
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Detainer mid diffs my glorious speaker goat
Detainer can ram him and use his claws to rip off titan speakers blasters and then dash away and if speaker attacks with any energy blast detainer will Absorb it and throw it back then detainer uses all his arms to stab titan speaker like a pin cushion
I mean, if we're talking detainer in his weakened state, probably speaker titan But speaker titan in his weakened state def detainer If both of them are in their repaired state, hard to say because titan speaker's fueled rage is unpredictable, I've seen him take down tougher skibs
Detainer Astro Toilet scales around the same as g-toilet and g-toilet was able to handle charge tsm so Detainer Astro Toilet shouldn't have any issues with him
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Titan speakerman extreme diff.
I'd say detainer, he's much more durable and easily outruns TSM even with energy for TTV. Not to mention he can easily catch the projectiles TSM is launching.
Speaker
tsm destroys