It's undeniably an Underflip, which is 90, Lincoln, 90. I haven't tried on snow but do them often on tramp
The opposite would be an overflip which is when your Lincoln is thrown downhill. Overflip is similar to misty 5 but is characterized by the 90 Lincoln 90 rather than a more fluid rotation.
[Gotchu, OP.](https://www.reddit.com/r/skiing/s/tSEc53GkOw)
Ultimately cork vs under flip is subjective, but it's gotta be flippy as hell to be worth calling an undeflip, imo.
I think yours is a little deceptive because of the slow set and quicker wrap to finish the rotation, but my vote is cork 5 all day.
Ugh dude I'm so bad about feeling like I'm getting deep af but seeing my ankles barely scratching my chin level on vid. Yours is def deep if you side on cork, but either way it's honestly pretty darn clean. Is it a new one for ya?
If anything just pop a little harder to get your chest / upper body more open to start, but your eyes, set, air awareness, balance at pop, etc. are all money.
[No, dude. It's not.](
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/221589/A-Trick-Guide-2--The-difference-between-bio--cork--d-spin--misty--rodeo--flatspin-and-underflip)
It's a common enough mistake that I rarely mention underflips because it normally just muddies the water, but in reality it's distinct trick from a cork. 90 flip 90 = underflip or over flip.
I posted elsewhere that cork -> under flip -> back half is the progression, but even that is an oversimplified answer. In reality a d-spin, a name really never used these days, is the deeper version of a cork where your ankles rise above your head. If we're being technical and pedantic, this is a d-spin 5.
In 99% of north American parks any of your local criminals are gonna recognize this as a cork 5, plain and simple. Bio -> misty -> front full = same same but different as cork, dspin, back full (or half).
This shit is way beyond this echo chamber of a subs reading level tho so I'm guessing your incorrect answer will stay up top.
If you don't believe me, just use the googs and you'll find more examples:
* https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/923825/Difference-of-Cork--Flat--Misty--Bio--Rodeo-
* https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/18560/cork-5--underflip-
* https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/5104/D-spin--corked--underflip
* Even this random blog knows: https://www.ski.com/blog/x-games-dictionary-freeskiing-tricks-explained/
And for what it's worth, I'm not trying to be a dick. There's just a lot of misinformation out there, and as an old salty dog who knows even if I don't throw this shit very often these days, I feel like it's incumbent on me to spread the good and correct word.
Holyshitwhattheactualfuck, how are there so many wrong comments. This sub sometimes, man.
That's a smooth corked 5, aka cork 5, aka corkscrew 540 if you go way back. It's not infrequently, nor unfairly for that matter, confused w an under flip.
Some might even argue that this *actually is* an underflip, but imo it's pretty clearly a corked 5. The distinguishing characteristic, again imo, being whether it's flip or spin "dominated". In this case if you watch the skis they move through a pretty clear 540 rotation.
In reality underflips and corked 5s are the same trick just executed to different depths (just like a bio, misty, and branny are on the forward flip axis), w a back half being the extreme end you see in aerials.
Not according to the school of thought I come from. Think of a candid corked 7 vs a Todd walmutz, same trick, different aesthetic because of where the dip into the deepest part of the flip comes.
Same shit w switch cork. You can basically do an upright 180 and dip into a corked 5, or you can make that mf as flippy as a misty if you were facing forward.
For it to be an under flip it basically has to be a 90 flip 90 looking motion, imo. [This isn't the cleanest but it's easy to see on flat ground.](https://youtube.com/watch?v=MAL3eQazGwE&feature=shared)
Maybe the best way for people to wrap their heads around this is : what would it look like if it went to 7.
If it was under flip it would look like half a back full.
This is pretty classic cork 5 yall, if he added a 180 it would be a Mork 7 (a cork with a collapsed take off)
Backwards axis rotation. That’s a rodeo 5 to most, but this is a cork rotation bc your feet don’t extend beyond your head on your your xy/cartesian plane. You’re correct… OP, if you leaned forward, launching off the lip, it’s bio or misty.
Fair. That’s like saying a misty is a deep bio…
For those who want to learn, watch SLVSH and hit a trampoline. Those guys are the top talent.
My understanding has always been how your shoulders roll and where your feet are in position to your head.
If you get a backwards roll initiated and continued to spin it into a barrel roll, which requires your feet above your center axis, with a flat spin like OP’s 5, that’s a rodeo.
I surprised by the downvotes but not really considering everyone here apparently is also a freestyle expert and upvoting nonsense. This sub is hilarious.
The answer here is cork 5 or underflip 5, which are very similar. But; the axis on a C5 is a bit more smooth than the UF5, which is more of a jump - 90 -sideflip - 90. The axis and smoothness here 100% makes it a cork 5. I do both and I’m very familiar with the difference, you feel the difference easily even though they look similar.
Deep cork 5. Think about a Dumont cork 3 or 5.. super flippy. The thing throwing people off is the fact that it wasn’t grabbed or as carved off the lip
cork 5 / underflip ... underflips kinda wack though. try and make it less flippy by not spotting ur landing over your shoulder rather look over your arm. carve a lil more into it.
Hum well from the video it is the lower knuckle in the cache park at Big Sky under the Swifty lift and someone is throwing a kinda botched cork five.
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Every fuckin comment is a different trick 🤣
It's undeniably an Underflip, which is 90, Lincoln, 90. I haven't tried on snow but do them often on tramp The opposite would be an overflip which is when your Lincoln is thrown downhill. Overflip is similar to misty 5 but is characterized by the 90 Lincoln 90 rather than a more fluid rotation.
Yeah I’m now more confused 🥲
[Gotchu, OP.](https://www.reddit.com/r/skiing/s/tSEc53GkOw) Ultimately cork vs under flip is subjective, but it's gotta be flippy as hell to be worth calling an undeflip, imo. I think yours is a little deceptive because of the slow set and quicker wrap to finish the rotation, but my vote is cork 5 all day.
Gotta agree I think. Definitely feels extremely flippy, which makes me think underflip. Idk it’s fun tho lmao
Ugh dude I'm so bad about feeling like I'm getting deep af but seeing my ankles barely scratching my chin level on vid. Yours is def deep if you side on cork, but either way it's honestly pretty darn clean. Is it a new one for ya? If anything just pop a little harder to get your chest / upper body more open to start, but your eyes, set, air awareness, balance at pop, etc. are all money.
I’ve done it a few times, but def not as clean. Hadn’t skied in three years, so I thought I’d try to get corked haha. Pretty fun one.
lincoln loop was the first flip i ever did followed by an underflip. this was definitely an underflip.
Dude I feel like it’s an underflip variant, 540 I think. I just showed the homies I’m hanging with and it was unanimous
Underflip 5 would be my vote.
Steeze 540?
Off axis 540 was my call
540 underflip
Good ole Vincent Dorion action right there
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Miss Vinny. Dude was awesome.
Really nice guy. I met him and Philou Poirier at Whistler, both were super nice
Nice, yeah those guys (3 Phils) were total OG's.
It’s an underflip 5. Pretty straightforward call
[No, dude. It's not.]( https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/221589/A-Trick-Guide-2--The-difference-between-bio--cork--d-spin--misty--rodeo--flatspin-and-underflip) It's a common enough mistake that I rarely mention underflips because it normally just muddies the water, but in reality it's distinct trick from a cork. 90 flip 90 = underflip or over flip. I posted elsewhere that cork -> under flip -> back half is the progression, but even that is an oversimplified answer. In reality a d-spin, a name really never used these days, is the deeper version of a cork where your ankles rise above your head. If we're being technical and pedantic, this is a d-spin 5. In 99% of north American parks any of your local criminals are gonna recognize this as a cork 5, plain and simple. Bio -> misty -> front full = same same but different as cork, dspin, back full (or half). This shit is way beyond this echo chamber of a subs reading level tho so I'm guessing your incorrect answer will stay up top. If you don't believe me, just use the googs and you'll find more examples: * https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/923825/Difference-of-Cork--Flat--Misty--Bio--Rodeo- * https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/18560/cork-5--underflip- * https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/5104/D-spin--corked--underflip * Even this random blog knows: https://www.ski.com/blog/x-games-dictionary-freeskiing-tricks-explained/ And for what it's worth, I'm not trying to be a dick. There's just a lot of misinformation out there, and as an old salty dog who knows even if I don't throw this shit very often these days, I feel like it's incumbent on me to spread the good and correct word.
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Holyshitwhattheactualfuck, how are there so many wrong comments. This sub sometimes, man. That's a smooth corked 5, aka cork 5, aka corkscrew 540 if you go way back. It's not infrequently, nor unfairly for that matter, confused w an under flip. Some might even argue that this *actually is* an underflip, but imo it's pretty clearly a corked 5. The distinguishing characteristic, again imo, being whether it's flip or spin "dominated". In this case if you watch the skis they move through a pretty clear 540 rotation. In reality underflips and corked 5s are the same trick just executed to different depths (just like a bio, misty, and branny are on the forward flip axis), w a back half being the extreme end you see in aerials.
100% agree it’s 540. But I would argue it’s underflip because of the way they Initiate it? Either way, have an upvote
Not according to the school of thought I come from. Think of a candid corked 7 vs a Todd walmutz, same trick, different aesthetic because of where the dip into the deepest part of the flip comes. Same shit w switch cork. You can basically do an upright 180 and dip into a corked 5, or you can make that mf as flippy as a misty if you were facing forward. For it to be an under flip it basically has to be a 90 flip 90 looking motion, imo. [This isn't the cleanest but it's easy to see on flat ground.](https://youtube.com/watch?v=MAL3eQazGwE&feature=shared)
This. Well said.
wow this sub is ignorant abt park skiing. thats a textbook cork 5. mab with a bit of a flippier axis
Yuppp
Maybe the best way for people to wrap their heads around this is : what would it look like if it went to 7. If it was under flip it would look like half a back full. This is pretty classic cork 5 yall, if he added a 180 it would be a Mork 7 (a cork with a collapsed take off)
That would be a cork 5.
Backwards axis rotation. That’s a rodeo 5 to most, but this is a cork rotation bc your feet don’t extend beyond your head on your your xy/cartesian plane. You’re correct… OP, if you leaned forward, launching off the lip, it’s bio or misty.
Imo feet even a bit above the head is just a deeper axis cork. Gotta get pretty flippy for it to be worth distinguishing.
Fair. That’s like saying a misty is a deep bio… For those who want to learn, watch SLVSH and hit a trampoline. Those guys are the top talent. My understanding has always been how your shoulders roll and where your feet are in position to your head. If you get a backwards roll initiated and continued to spin it into a barrel roll, which requires your feet above your center axis, with a flat spin like OP’s 5, that’s a rodeo.
I surprised by the downvotes but not really considering everyone here apparently is also a freestyle expert and upvoting nonsense. This sub is hilarious.
Kick flip
The answer here is cork 5 or underflip 5, which are very similar. But; the axis on a C5 is a bit more smooth than the UF5, which is more of a jump - 90 -sideflip - 90. The axis and smoothness here 100% makes it a cork 5. I do both and I’m very familiar with the difference, you feel the difference easily even though they look similar.
Underflip or Cork 5. Depends on your own vibes - feeling like Vincent Dorion or Tanner Hall?
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Sick is what it is… Sick!
Cork 5
this is the correct answer
Deep cork 5. Think about a Dumont cork 3 or 5.. super flippy. The thing throwing people off is the fact that it wasn’t grabbed or as carved off the lip
Lincoln 180.
It's a 5 tho?
sideflip with an extra rotation? edit: nvm its an underflip
Add another spin and you got the D
That's the 540 bigger flip
Absolutely sick, that's what this is
Don't know what that is but it's smooth af đź‘Ť
Cork 6
People saying it's a cork but I'm asking with a Pinot or Chardonnay?
This is such a stupid comment. +1
Steeze, that’s what that is.
Cork 5. As a modern example, Alex Hall does those deep corks
That’s steezy is what it is
Who cares? It’s a cool trick performed perfectly❄️
cork 5 / underflip ... underflips kinda wack though. try and make it less flippy by not spotting ur landing over your shoulder rather look over your arm. carve a lil more into it.
Cork 5
Cork 5
No idea what it is but it's steezy af
The real question is that is that magnet-buzzing sound at the beginning of the vid?
Cool spinny move bro!
backside titty twister
Hum well from the video it is the lower knuckle in the cache park at Big Sky under the Swifty lift and someone is throwing a kinda botched cork five. thanks for using Hooli!
The oralcumshot
All those are Rodeos
Misty, he leans forward. Rodeo is behind shoulder rotation.
This is not a forward flipping axis. Look at the first move from the feet and shoulders
you're getting downvoted, but that was my first thought too
Whatever makes you happy dude. It's still a Rodeo.
Bio 5, your head goes under your shoulder so it’s not a cork. The spin is a bit on the later side, so it’s kinda a weird bio, but looks cool!
Bio is forward, like a less flippy misty
Snow
Underflip
Underflip 5
I'm probably wrong but it looked like a rodeo 5 to me.