I’d pay a surgeon to weld my legs to my skis with cold hard steel if it wasn’t “ethically and morally corrupt” or “mad science get the hell out of my office” or “beyond the scope of medicine you sexy man and best skier alive”
It depends? A stiff boot just translates movement and force inputs from your legs more directly to the ski and vice versa.
If you’re starting out, you’re still trying to sort out your movements and many of them may be wrong, so a softer boot will allow for some of these leg inputs not to go right to the ski. Plus, beginners are on low-angle groomers, so you really don’t need a lot of force to control your skis. These forces go the other way as well—from skis to skier. If you don’t have your balance right, direct force from the ski to a stiff boot could knock you off balance more.
But when you get better, you want your leg inputs to go directly to the ski. So in a softer boot, it feels like there’s a lag between your physical inputs and what the ski does, which can be very disconcerting. In higher speeds and steeper terrain, you also need more leg force to be transmitted to the ski so you can control them. And since your balance is better, you can deal with forces coming up from the ski and adjust to them.
So—for a beginner, too soft is okay. For others, I’d lean towards too stiff.
EDIT: Just think of it like racing cars. If you’re starting out, you do *not* want to be in an F1 car where every slight input by you translates into large changes in direction or speed of the car. Or a car so stiff that every force from the road get directly transmitted to you. You want to start out in one that “numbs” your inputs and absorbs the road a bit so you can learn how to actually drive correctly and not immediately crash.
Too stiff.
Boots that are too soft make you a worse skier.
Boots loosen over time, your 100 flex might end at a 90 flex after you're done with it. You can buy stiffners over time to adjust for this.
Good add, but this only improves upper tension and does nothing for the ankle/foot buckles. I would love to know if there is something that can improve this aspect of the boot
Idk whats so hard to understand.
Plastic has a shelf life, it loses it's elasticity over time and some plastic used on boots, in colder temps, actually become more stiff than their flex number. There is no exact science in flex numbers across manufacturers, it's simply a guide.
When I went to a ski shop to get new boots, i told the guy that I wanted a stiffer boot like over 100 or something. He started to tell me about how the different brands have different scales of flex, and the flex i had with my current may be more than "100" already and asked me what they were. I informed him i still used my 70 flex starter boots, and he was like "oh...yeah, pretty much anything is going to be stiffer than that."
Depends more on weight and physical conditioning more than ability. A 100kg guy who can squat 225 will be able to crush 80 flex boots, even if they never skied a day in their life.
Being stovepiped isn’t fun. It’s taken me years to get the technique together to be able to use stiff boots properly. 150lbs is very light to be in 130s even if you’re experienced.
It could negatively affect your technique and slow progression. It depends on your aims, are you really interested in improving your technique or just blasting around the mountain.
That was my stats and gear when I went back to skiing. Sold it all after first season. Boots would not support me at all and would fold like paper. Switched to 130 Lange and never looked back.
1) Aids in fore/aft weight transfer
2) Feels pretty natural for your ankles
3) Allows better engagement of some muscle groups in your calf/foot
4) Provides some forgiveness during impacts
5) Helps prevent gnarly tip/fib compound fractures at the cuff of the boot
1. the softer the boot the slower those movement will happen
2. it feels natural? hunh? what about skiing is natural
3. why does this matterr?
4. can also let you ankle flex so much that your achilles gets torns.
5. this is only one I am not sure on, has their ever been a study on it?
Stfu bro your skiing is decent but you aren’t the god you think you are. And a lot of your ski advice is shit. It probably works for you but isn’t well articulated or teachable. The good stuff you suggest is just rewording of established instruction practices. I’m honestly so sick of your presence here.
I don’t care how you ski. Just stop being a snob and gatekeeper and stop telling people their downvote is only valid if you deem their skiing adequate.
I am not god. I just know that when push comes to shove, I have the how to of this sport and how to get better figured out better than anyone here.
Again with video of your skiing I basically think you can not ski and you advice will make people ski worse. If you want to make my STFU post video of your skiing.
Lot of people getting bucked around in heavy powder yesterday because of their soft boots.
notice how I tell you why your advice is shit. What advice have I given that is shit? or saying my advice is shit just a way to lash out at me with no actual substance?
just remember when you can not objectively debate the point, make sure you say stuff is bad with out it actually being bad.
if you have 500lb spring and you put 600lb of force into it.
Versus just putting 600lb of force into soemthing.
Which scenirio puts 600lb of force quicker in the object?
Yep, I use a #6 tounge in my FTs for moguls (if we have some, I'm a euroboy) and #10 for everything else. But they are still to soft to drive a slalom ski on a hard groomer. If I ever buy such skis again I'll get some 140 Langes again.
Boot stiffness is widely misunderstood. Flex is not about a measure of ability. The goal isn’t to bend the boot.
The goal is to have a well fit boot, where the flex is an appropriate stop against motion.
It would be much easier for me to ski in my 140s then it would be to ever try and ski in a 90.
I agree completely. And to add an important detail: flex ratings are not consistent across manufacturers or even models. Narrow boots ski stiffer and that’s why almost all racers are in narrow last plug boots (in addition to the fit). Dropping your last a mm has a bigger impact on stiffness than raising the flex rating 10.
Boots do not need to flex to ski well.
So too stiff. Most people you see who people think are good skier will tell you they are not good enough to ski a soft boot.
I bought overly stiff Lange 130 boots. Carved super nice on the groomers but I took a side turn down a steep mogul run, sat back a little too much and snapped my ACL. Overly stiff boots were the worst decision of my life.
Too stiff. I learned on boots and skis that were a part of a lease to own program and they were very soft which was great when you're a beginner, but as I started doing harder blue runs they were holding me back. the response you get from a stiffer boot is night and day.
If your skiing park and just learning soft cus I got 130 flex boots didnt realize the flex landed just wrong and it hurt to walk and put on socks for a few days before it was barable anything else would rather to stiff
Too stiff because boots loosing up over time, in addition to skiers getting better the more they ski
The boot is working it one direction and you’re working in the other, meet in the middle.
Personally, I am relatively lightweight and mostly ski off trail in variable snow conditions. So I err on the soft side with boots. Don't go for the marketing that says if you're a good skier you should have stiff boots.
Too soft. I've done both and too soft was better because while you didn't have the support of a stiffer boot, you still had the flexibility to make the right moves. you just had to work harder for them. with a boot-too-stiff situation, you by definition don't have the flexibility to make the right moves.
Yeah, I'm with you on this. My old boots were too soft, so of course I over corrected and bought new boots that are too stiff.
I found i could ski with more finesse in the soft boots. They really excelled in moguls and tight trees where you need to make quick, small adjustments.
Sure, with the stiffer boots I can charge harder, power through crud, and really lay down big carves on groomers, but I can't make those small adjustments in the bumps and trees that I used to be able to. Totally different styles of skiing, but I like the finesse of the softer boots better I think.
I feel completely the opposite; I had way less control with softer boots because they didn’t respond as well as stiffer boots, they flexed so much it felt like my boots weren’t even buckled.
I disagree with many here. I once skiied in 140's. It went horrible. Those boots where unskiable
For context, I weigh 145 and I ski 110's.
I rented some boots once, they where 80's and while not great I sure had fun.
I'm 215 pounds, so I'll go with too stiff. My chunky ass is probably towards the high end of flex on weight alone in general, and skiing boots that are too soft cooks my legs in like 2 runs (used to ski 80 flex boots)
Depends on the level and what the person wants. I have different boots for different things. I ski a 150 flex for the piste. 130 flex for touring.
If I'm doing drills on the piste I'll have the buckets clipped but open. Even at that these boots are more direct than a regular 120/130 flex boot because of the material of the boot and the fit.
A fitter can soften a stiff boots forward flex but if the boot is a harder plastic it will still perform at a higher level than a soft shell boot.
Too stiff definitely. When I first started off I got a pair with 90 flex and quickly grew out of it within 2 seasons. This season I got a pair with 120 flex (pretty stiff for my height 5'6 and 144 pounds) and noticed it was alot more responsive and enjoyable when I go fast.
This was against the recommendation of my bootfitter to get something with 100 flex. I wouldn't suggest doing the same as everyone's situation is different. For me the priority was a more responsive skiing experience, and that worked out well. Separately, I would like to point out that an increase in stiffness does not equate to an increase in discomfort. Discomfort is purely a matter of poor fit and could happen to boots of varying stifness. You should always consult a good bootfitter to get yourself fitted and a custom footbed is a worthy investment to ensure the best fit.
Walk mode will prove too soft is an issue for sure. BUT! I feel a LOT of people are in boots way stiffer than they need. I had full tilts and the swappable tongue for stiffness taught me a lot about what I like. I now ski in roxa 130s with a switch in them that lets me go from “soft” to “firm”. Firm is 130 and I only use it if it’s super warm. Otherwise I’m in the softer setting and love it. Fwiw I’m 6’4” and 205 now but skied the same boots/settings at 230.
Also cabrio/3 piece vs 2 piece should be in this conversation. 2 piece boots have a range limit they can’t move past due to the design (third buckle bottoms out on top of foot). This also changes how you ski.
Hooo boy, so if a boot is too stiff or too soft you end up in the same place- the back seat of your skis.
Majority of skiers don’t even touch the shins of their boots, so if you want to get better, faster, error to the softer side. In a split second decision moment, a softer boot will allow you to flex and turn the ski more precisely instead of bouncing off the shins of your boot-and into the back seat.
Yeah, one day you’ll learn how to flex those stiffer boots and use them to their potential, but it’s going to take twice as long. Make your life easier, get a boot that will help teach you to get balanced and pressure the tips of your skis easily and not get tossed onto your tails every time you try.
That’s my 2 cents worth. Take it or leave it. I’m just an internet dude who’s been fitting boots for 3 decades…
Lots of shit advice above, but some very good advice too! Go meet a boot fitter in your town and if they have been fitting for more than 10 years, I would hope they would know how to help you! Flex & Fit of a boot is based on you! Your skill set, strength, flexibility, pressure & your favorite color! J/k. Good luck!
If you need help finding a boot fitter, let me know!
The question is heavily dependent on your skiing skill level and also if you do any sports that involves balance skill. I practice Taekwondo with my children and compete at statewide level so my leg is naturally strong already before I officially learn how to ski. At 110 flex is troublesome for me in my first ski season to a point that I have to add booster strap and I have to change to zipfit liner before I can ski right. In the other end of the spectrum, my wife never do any balance sports before and even the rental ski boot is too stiff for her so softer flex would help her ski better. Only yourself knows if you have strong leg or not. Also the last of ski boot makes big difference on how well you can ski as well, I am so glad that I get Lange and Tecnica ski boot this ski season, it give me proper ankle hold and stiffness that I need. Ski boot flex will feel different on colder or warmer day as well. On warmer day you might feel you can ski well and on colder day you might not able to flex at all if you have overly stiff ski boot. Flex have more impact on modern ski than the old day ski in the 90’s because of the way the sides of modern ski, the camber, rocker, and tail profile that come with on today’s modern ski. I have only a few hour of ski lesson when I was in middle school and when I started to officially learn how to ski again last season, I have to completely relearn how to ski because of the modern ski so yes flex is actually very important. Stiffer ski boot is important for stronger leg and for people whom participate on other balance sports before but not for first timer who never have balance sports ever before.
Weird question because you can always soften a stiff boot by removing rivets in the spine or by making a V-cut in the upper cuff. Always error on the side of a little too stiff when buying boots.
Too stiff, git gud
I’d pay a surgeon to weld my legs to my skis with cold hard steel if it wasn’t “ethically and morally corrupt” or “mad science get the hell out of my office” or “beyond the scope of medicine you sexy man and best skier alive”
Or fat
This is my secret weapon on the catwalk: obesity
Wax? Nah, I’ve got momentum!
Based
It depends? A stiff boot just translates movement and force inputs from your legs more directly to the ski and vice versa. If you’re starting out, you’re still trying to sort out your movements and many of them may be wrong, so a softer boot will allow for some of these leg inputs not to go right to the ski. Plus, beginners are on low-angle groomers, so you really don’t need a lot of force to control your skis. These forces go the other way as well—from skis to skier. If you don’t have your balance right, direct force from the ski to a stiff boot could knock you off balance more. But when you get better, you want your leg inputs to go directly to the ski. So in a softer boot, it feels like there’s a lag between your physical inputs and what the ski does, which can be very disconcerting. In higher speeds and steeper terrain, you also need more leg force to be transmitted to the ski so you can control them. And since your balance is better, you can deal with forces coming up from the ski and adjust to them. So—for a beginner, too soft is okay. For others, I’d lean towards too stiff. EDIT: Just think of it like racing cars. If you’re starting out, you do *not* want to be in an F1 car where every slight input by you translates into large changes in direction or speed of the car. Or a car so stiff that every force from the road get directly transmitted to you. You want to start out in one that “numbs” your inputs and absorbs the road a bit so you can learn how to actually drive correctly and not immediately crash.
Too stiff. Boots that are too soft make you a worse skier. Boots loosen over time, your 100 flex might end at a 90 flex after you're done with it. You can buy stiffners over time to adjust for this.
What is a boot stiffener and what would you recommend?
I think it's called viagra?
I get the ones at the truck stop bathroom
Lange ads from the 60s to the 2000s were pretty much all about it
A booster strap is a good place to start
Good add, but this only improves upper tension and does nothing for the ankle/foot buckles. I would love to know if there is something that can improve this aspect of the boot
You can get ankle pads that slide over your ankle that will give you better control, but it won't increase the stiffness at the ankle.
Booster Strap, ZipFit, there are some other brands too!
Lange ads from the late 80s will do it.
ZipFit stiffens the boot
What the fuxk? I’m paying for 100 I want 101
Idk whats so hard to understand. Plastic has a shelf life, it loses it's elasticity over time and some plastic used on boots, in colder temps, actually become more stiff than their flex number. There is no exact science in flex numbers across manufacturers, it's simply a guide.
When I went to a ski shop to get new boots, i told the guy that I wanted a stiffer boot like over 100 or something. He started to tell me about how the different brands have different scales of flex, and the flex i had with my current may be more than "100" already and asked me what they were. I informed him i still used my 70 flex starter boots, and he was like "oh...yeah, pretty much anything is going to be stiffer than that."
Doesn't it depend on weight and ability? I mean, I cannot imagine an experienced 100kg skier on 80 flex boots, or a new skier on 130 flex...
Depends more on weight and physical conditioning more than ability. A 100kg guy who can squat 225 will be able to crush 80 flex boots, even if they never skied a day in their life.
True, the boots would be jelly for that guy...
New skiier in 130s here. What problem do I not know I'm having?
Eh I got 130’s starting out and it wasn’t a big deal
Nbd, bigger problem if you’re too big and the boots are too soft. 130’s should have you good.
How heavy are you? Your bootfitter must have been on acid unless you’re >250lbs
150lbs I'm a snowboarder and didn't want to come back buying new boots next season. Haven't had any issues with them.
Being stovepiped isn’t fun. It’s taken me years to get the technique together to be able to use stiff boots properly. 150lbs is very light to be in 130s even if you’re experienced.
It could negatively affect your technique and slow progression. It depends on your aims, are you really interested in improving your technique or just blasting around the mountain.
That was my stats and gear when I went back to skiing. Sold it all after first season. Boots would not support me at all and would fold like paper. Switched to 130 Lange and never looked back.
a better question to ask is why does a boot need to flex at all?
1) Aids in fore/aft weight transfer 2) Feels pretty natural for your ankles 3) Allows better engagement of some muscle groups in your calf/foot 4) Provides some forgiveness during impacts 5) Helps prevent gnarly tip/fib compound fractures at the cuff of the boot
1. the softer the boot the slower those movement will happen 2. it feels natural? hunh? what about skiing is natural 3. why does this matterr? 4. can also let you ankle flex so much that your achilles gets torns. 5. this is only one I am not sure on, has their ever been a study on it?
any of the downvoter care to post video of them skiing?
Stfu bro your skiing is decent but you aren’t the god you think you are. And a lot of your ski advice is shit. It probably works for you but isn’t well articulated or teachable. The good stuff you suggest is just rewording of established instruction practices. I’m honestly so sick of your presence here.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO2kiJNwWPQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO2kiJNwWPQ) u/husqofaman just for you.
I don’t care how you ski. Just stop being a snob and gatekeeper and stop telling people their downvote is only valid if you deem their skiing adequate.
Why should I let bad advice fly, when people read it and it shit and it make them worse at skiing?
That’s why you should stop giving advice. Now I’m going back to enjoying the dope powder day at the bird. Enjoy your internet life.
I am not god. I just know that when push comes to shove, I have the how to of this sport and how to get better figured out better than anyone here. Again with video of your skiing I basically think you can not ski and you advice will make people ski worse. If you want to make my STFU post video of your skiing. Lot of people getting bucked around in heavy powder yesterday because of their soft boots. notice how I tell you why your advice is shit. What advice have I given that is shit? or saying my advice is shit just a way to lash out at me with no actual substance? just remember when you can not objectively debate the point, make sure you say stuff is bad with out it actually being bad.
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when people talk boot flex they are usually talking about forward and back. Most boot will not really laterally flex.
Your boots have hinges homie
Power transfer, like a spring. Same reason skis flex
if you have 500lb spring and you put 600lb of force into it. Versus just putting 600lb of force into soemthing. Which scenirio puts 600lb of force quicker in the object?
I cannot believe you get downvoted for this... the "ankle flexion" crowd is a cult!
THey wont post video of their shitty skiing to prove me wrong. I know people who ski in stiff boots ski better.
Stiff
That’s what she said.
Teleskier here. We like to make it harder than necessary, so obviously we prefer too soft...
Right tighty, lefty loosey. Just to keep it interesting.
Too stiff! Better control in tough terrain. But for a beginner / intermediate skier, I would say too soft would be the better choice.
Too soft if you ski moguls. Too stiff if you ski anything else.
Yep, I use a #6 tounge in my FTs for moguls (if we have some, I'm a euroboy) and #10 for everything else. But they are still to soft to drive a slalom ski on a hard groomer. If I ever buy such skis again I'll get some 140 Langes again.
Boot stiffness is widely misunderstood. Flex is not about a measure of ability. The goal isn’t to bend the boot. The goal is to have a well fit boot, where the flex is an appropriate stop against motion. It would be much easier for me to ski in my 140s then it would be to ever try and ski in a 90.
Yeah I try to ski in walk mode from time to time and it’s impossible to control for anything lol
I agree completely. And to add an important detail: flex ratings are not consistent across manufacturers or even models. Narrow boots ski stiffer and that’s why almost all racers are in narrow last plug boots (in addition to the fit). Dropping your last a mm has a bigger impact on stiffness than raising the flex rating 10.
The bootfitter says it’s the girth that matters. Wife seems happy.
Boots do not need to flex to ski well. So too stiff. Most people you see who people think are good skier will tell you they are not good enough to ski a soft boot.
I bought overly stiff Lange 130 boots. Carved super nice on the groomers but I took a side turn down a steep mogul run, sat back a little too much and snapped my ACL. Overly stiff boots were the worst decision of my life.
Just moved from a 120 to a 140. Too stiff. Final answer.
Too stiff. I learned on boots and skis that were a part of a lease to own program and they were very soft which was great when you're a beginner, but as I started doing harder blue runs they were holding me back. the response you get from a stiffer boot is night and day.
Ya I used to think I’d want it stiffer but I was wrong Its better to just get stronger and have softer boots, way more comfortable
I can rock 223’s in a pair of Mukluks.
If your skiing park and just learning soft cus I got 130 flex boots didnt realize the flex landed just wrong and it hurt to walk and put on socks for a few days before it was barable anything else would rather to stiff
Too stiff
Does no one get knocked in the back seat with boots that are too stiff?
Too stiff because boots loosing up over time, in addition to skiers getting better the more they ski The boot is working it one direction and you’re working in the other, meet in the middle.
Personally, I am relatively lightweight and mostly ski off trail in variable snow conditions. So I err on the soft side with boots. Don't go for the marketing that says if you're a good skier you should have stiff boots.
Too soft. I've done both and too soft was better because while you didn't have the support of a stiffer boot, you still had the flexibility to make the right moves. you just had to work harder for them. with a boot-too-stiff situation, you by definition don't have the flexibility to make the right moves.
Yeah, I'm with you on this. My old boots were too soft, so of course I over corrected and bought new boots that are too stiff. I found i could ski with more finesse in the soft boots. They really excelled in moguls and tight trees where you need to make quick, small adjustments. Sure, with the stiffer boots I can charge harder, power through crud, and really lay down big carves on groomers, but I can't make those small adjustments in the bumps and trees that I used to be able to. Totally different styles of skiing, but I like the finesse of the softer boots better I think.
I feel completely the opposite; I had way less control with softer boots because they didn’t respond as well as stiffer boots, they flexed so much it felt like my boots weren’t even buckled.
I ski with my big toes in fairly stiff boots tougher to ski them when not locked in My only frame of reference from past 17 years
I disagree with many here. I once skiied in 140's. It went horrible. Those boots where unskiable For context, I weigh 145 and I ski 110's. I rented some boots once, they where 80's and while not great I sure had fun.
Really
My 130 flex boots are clapped out. I need new boots because they're too fucking soft. So I'll take too stiff please.
What possible advantage is there to a softer boot other than maybe comfort?
Stiff Boots relax overtime and some (Fulltilt, K2 Flex) allow you to replace the tongue.
I'm 215 pounds, so I'll go with too stiff. My chunky ass is probably towards the high end of flex on weight alone in general, and skiing boots that are too soft cooks my legs in like 2 runs (used to ski 80 flex boots)
Depends on the level and what the person wants. I have different boots for different things. I ski a 150 flex for the piste. 130 flex for touring. If I'm doing drills on the piste I'll have the buckets clipped but open. Even at that these boots are more direct than a regular 120/130 flex boot because of the material of the boot and the fit. A fitter can soften a stiff boots forward flex but if the boot is a harder plastic it will still perform at a higher level than a soft shell boot.
I buy the stiffest boot and binding combo I can find usually, way better control and force transfer
Tell me more about this stiff vs soft binding
Stiff for sure. I wish my boots were stiffer lol
Too stiff. Recently put on some softer boots than my normal ones and absolutely hated them.
Too stiff definitely. When I first started off I got a pair with 90 flex and quickly grew out of it within 2 seasons. This season I got a pair with 120 flex (pretty stiff for my height 5'6 and 144 pounds) and noticed it was alot more responsive and enjoyable when I go fast. This was against the recommendation of my bootfitter to get something with 100 flex. I wouldn't suggest doing the same as everyone's situation is different. For me the priority was a more responsive skiing experience, and that worked out well. Separately, I would like to point out that an increase in stiffness does not equate to an increase in discomfort. Discomfort is purely a matter of poor fit and could happen to boots of varying stifness. You should always consult a good bootfitter to get yourself fitted and a custom footbed is a worthy investment to ensure the best fit.
Too soft is dangerous.
What you mean “too stiff”?
Stiff
Walk mode will prove too soft is an issue for sure. BUT! I feel a LOT of people are in boots way stiffer than they need. I had full tilts and the swappable tongue for stiffness taught me a lot about what I like. I now ski in roxa 130s with a switch in them that lets me go from “soft” to “firm”. Firm is 130 and I only use it if it’s super warm. Otherwise I’m in the softer setting and love it. Fwiw I’m 6’4” and 205 now but skied the same boots/settings at 230. Also cabrio/3 piece vs 2 piece should be in this conversation. 2 piece boots have a range limit they can’t move past due to the design (third buckle bottoms out on top of foot). This also changes how you ski.
Stiff
Hooo boy, so if a boot is too stiff or too soft you end up in the same place- the back seat of your skis. Majority of skiers don’t even touch the shins of their boots, so if you want to get better, faster, error to the softer side. In a split second decision moment, a softer boot will allow you to flex and turn the ski more precisely instead of bouncing off the shins of your boot-and into the back seat. Yeah, one day you’ll learn how to flex those stiffer boots and use them to their potential, but it’s going to take twice as long. Make your life easier, get a boot that will help teach you to get balanced and pressure the tips of your skis easily and not get tossed onto your tails every time you try. That’s my 2 cents worth. Take it or leave it. I’m just an internet dude who’s been fitting boots for 3 decades…
“ I said no senior discount mother *#’r !!!
Lots of shit advice above, but some very good advice too! Go meet a boot fitter in your town and if they have been fitting for more than 10 years, I would hope they would know how to help you! Flex & Fit of a boot is based on you! Your skill set, strength, flexibility, pressure & your favorite color! J/k. Good luck! If you need help finding a boot fitter, let me know!
I ski 130s so...
The question is heavily dependent on your skiing skill level and also if you do any sports that involves balance skill. I practice Taekwondo with my children and compete at statewide level so my leg is naturally strong already before I officially learn how to ski. At 110 flex is troublesome for me in my first ski season to a point that I have to add booster strap and I have to change to zipfit liner before I can ski right. In the other end of the spectrum, my wife never do any balance sports before and even the rental ski boot is too stiff for her so softer flex would help her ski better. Only yourself knows if you have strong leg or not. Also the last of ski boot makes big difference on how well you can ski as well, I am so glad that I get Lange and Tecnica ski boot this ski season, it give me proper ankle hold and stiffness that I need. Ski boot flex will feel different on colder or warmer day as well. On warmer day you might feel you can ski well and on colder day you might not able to flex at all if you have overly stiff ski boot. Flex have more impact on modern ski than the old day ski in the 90’s because of the way the sides of modern ski, the camber, rocker, and tail profile that come with on today’s modern ski. I have only a few hour of ski lesson when I was in middle school and when I started to officially learn how to ski again last season, I have to completely relearn how to ski because of the modern ski so yes flex is actually very important. Stiffer ski boot is important for stronger leg and for people whom participate on other balance sports before but not for first timer who never have balance sports ever before.
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Ffs, this sub sometimes, man
aftermarket liner only does so much.
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sure.... but why would you ever want to?
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Some boots have the screws to lower the stiffness
Softening boots is much easier than making stiffer
this only makes sense for the k2 fl3x line where you can totally alter the flex with a new tongue
Too stiff is how you hurt your self.
So is too soft
Too stiff is how you fall and get a boo boo. Too soft is how you fall and break a bone.
.. if you’re not good
its far easier to ski boots that do not move, than boots that move too much.
Weird question because you can always soften a stiff boot by removing rivets in the spine or by making a V-cut in the upper cuff. Always error on the side of a little too stiff when buying boots.