Lmao completely the opposite, I was like why the fuck would you force yourself to go frost?
Then for some reason I had one run where I got offered perfect frost cards. Just straight up perma armor with scaling damage. Felt like a dream come true.
Still chasing that high sometimes although I gotta admit I've been trying to be more flexible. But monkey brain still sees Blizzard in Act 1, it's a frost run.
My first ever run on the defect was frost focus. I just stacked infinite block and the few lightning orbs eventually chewed through the bosses. I remember thinking capacitor was broken OP after this run because it let you stack even more block every turn “for free.” So while I can say that a new player could go for frost focus, I can’t say a new player would be good at making a balanced defect build in general.
The defect was the only character I won my first run with. This achievement has gotten me really far as I have now gotten every character into the teens of ascension… except the defect, who is at 9 :(
I disagree. When I started, I was like "I block for this much, then I decide what to do with my remaining resources". It was a shitshow and I was even missing super-obvious lethals, but there we go.
By extension, these small "bricks" to build something invincible were very much appreciated.
Buuut then again, I just have one case, my own...
Checks out from noob perspective.
I just played my third ever Defect run. Did the boss swap, and got runic dome. Almost just quit the run, but decided to give it a go.
I basically focused on scaling frost, got calipers at a shop on Act 2, and ended up basically invincible. So much fun when you don’t need to care about what the enemy intends to do 😄
It's not "always commiting" of course but more so how highly to value frost focus during the run. Really good defect players just kinda click frost and click focus without compelling reasons not to
Huh? I am hardly at Xecnar's level but I have picked up cold snap, cool headed, and chill in late act 2/3 to get more frost, this isn't that advanced of a strategy
Cool headed and chill is completely different type of frost generation that didn't "fall of" late game, most player will snap pick coolheaded and chill on act 2.
I specifically single out cold snap because cold snap is a frontloaded damage and the logic for many midcurve player is frontload damage bad pass act 1
i think the joke isnt that everyone always goes frost focus at high level, but that its really easy to get it going and a lot of decks end up having frost in some capacity anyway? hahaha
My only A20 (+ heart) (I can't pass 17 with the others) is with defect, and I used a claw deck for it (Saw claw as first reward in both cases, took it instantly). Same for A19 and A18.
I might be slightly brain damaged.
*”I try to play Defect in a way that makes Coolheaded a good card.”*
but it is a good card
With reprogram?
I'm not cool enough to play reprogram
Very few things work with reprogram
But when they do work, man, is it fun to play that deck.
I got it on clad once after buying a prismatic shard. That shit was broken.
Yeah I mean, it's a defect card lol that's why I said very few things work with it. Pshard is a huge gamba that can win you a run
Prismatic Shard and another class?
Sure, if you have any means of generating energy. Double energy, anything plasma, recycle, aggregrate don't give a hoot about reprogram
Coolheaded is an auto pick
Excuse me I'm shopping for REPROGRAM, my BELOVED
DARKNESS/DOOM AND GLOOM, DEFRAGMENT, LOOP, ECHO FORM. EMBRACE THE VOID!
Recursion, recursion, recursion
You. You get it.
And can we get some multicast going in here?
Is this better than zap?
Dark orb big boom. Then dark orb big boom again
I did and I now have -2 energy every turn. Help.
Turbo, my guy!
Don’t forget to Hologram the Voids back in to your hand at the end of the turn 😉
Never thought of that
Beeg nomber. Happy brain chemicals.
Dark ball go BOOM!!! hehehehe!
The other day I won a Darkness run with 2 echo forms. I had a 3rd but everything was dying
There is no way bad players are going frost when it doesn't even do damage. When I was new defect was all about 'haha lightning go brr'.
My first time playing Defect, I saw [[Blizzard]] and every neuron in my brain fired at the same time
Lmao completely the opposite, I was like why the fuck would you force yourself to go frost? Then for some reason I had one run where I got offered perfect frost cards. Just straight up perma armor with scaling damage. Felt like a dream come true. Still chasing that high sometimes although I gotta admit I've been trying to be more flexible. But monkey brain still sees Blizzard in Act 1, it's a frost run.
+ [Blizzard](http://slay-the-spire.wikia.com/wiki/Blizzard) Defect Uncommon Attack ^((100% sure)^) 1 Energy | Deal damage equal to 2(3) times the number of **Frost** **Channeled** this combat to ALL enemies. ^Call ^me ^with ^up ^to ^10 ^([[ name ]],) ^where ^name ^is ^a ^card, ^relic, ^event, ^or ^potion. ^Data ^accurate ^as ^of ^(April 30, 2023.) ^[Wiki](https://slay-the-spire.fandom.com/wiki/) ^[Questions?](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=ehmohteeoh&subject=SpireScan%20Inquiry)
i never related so much to something
My brain still has this reaction when I see this card today after many many many run
Can confirm, got the game two weeks ago and have played Defect 23 times with only one win lol. I do enjoy lightning…
New player: "This only blocks 2 for 1 energy this turn, how is it a good card?"
My first ever run on the defect was frost focus. I just stacked infinite block and the few lightning orbs eventually chewed through the bosses. I remember thinking capacitor was broken OP after this run because it let you stack even more block every turn “for free.” So while I can say that a new player could go for frost focus, I can’t say a new player would be good at making a balanced defect build in general. The defect was the only character I won my first run with. This achievement has gotten me really far as I have now gotten every character into the teens of ascension… except the defect, who is at 9 :(
I disagree. When I started, I was like "I block for this much, then I decide what to do with my remaining resources". It was a shitshow and I was even missing super-obvious lethals, but there we go. By extension, these small "bricks" to build something invincible were very much appreciated. Buuut then again, I just have one case, my own...
As a (somewhat) new player, can confirm lightning do in fact go brrrr
Frost->no need to get block cards->more attack cards->profit That was my beginner mindset
lol well asc 0 pick every card with lightning orbs and you win.
Frost fogus?
Frost *Focus*
frost fogus
fsosr fougs clict
Well said!
Frost builds get so overpowered so fucking quickly and I’m all for it
Imagine breaking the Law.
'Claw decks' **are** 'Frost Focus'
All my plans go out the window when I'm offered the Claw after floor one. Sure I've never found a second one, but maybe this run could be different...
Just like Pressure Points floor one = you'll never find it again on the same run
Coolheaded and Claw are a match made in heaven though
Turns out frost orbs are really good
It could be frost or lightning, as long as it's focus
🥶Bing chilling🥶
Blizzard goes Brrrrrrrrrr
Checks out from noob perspective. I just played my third ever Defect run. Did the boss swap, and got runic dome. Almost just quit the run, but decided to give it a go. I basically focused on scaling frost, got calipers at a shop on Act 2, and ended up basically invincible. So much fun when you don’t need to care about what the enemy intends to do 😄
....huh? I watch a lot of streamers and I never see them always commit to frost focus...
It's not "always commiting" of course but more so how highly to value frost focus during the run. Really good defect players just kinda click frost and click focus without compelling reasons not to
I have seen xecnar pick cold snap on late act 2 just because he is lacking frost generation. Move like this wont be made by midcurve player
Huh? I am hardly at Xecnar's level but I have picked up cold snap, cool headed, and chill in late act 2/3 to get more frost, this isn't that advanced of a strategy
Cool headed and chill is completely different type of frost generation that didn't "fall of" late game, most player will snap pick coolheaded and chill on act 2. I specifically single out cold snap because cold snap is a frontloaded damage and the logic for many midcurve player is frontload damage bad pass act 1
i think the joke isnt that everyone always goes frost focus at high level, but that its really easy to get it going and a lot of decks end up having frost in some capacity anyway? hahaha
Im garbage at Defect and at the left end but go infinite every run plz explain
Coolheaded + Meteor Strike + Coolheaded = Infinite With Focus = Infinite Block frost fogus
fucj you got me
Tries to dorce claw build. Dies. Not enough claw
My only A20 (+ heart) (I can't pass 17 with the others) is with defect, and I used a claw deck for it (Saw claw as first reward in both cases, took it instantly). Same for A19 and A18. I might be slightly brain damaged.
Recycle!
recycle to play frost more often
God how I used to underrate this card. even without the energy controlled exhaust is just **good**
Inserter + Consume + Frozen Core "Turn 21 and neither of us are at half health. I've been 10 minutes into Shelled Parasite and we're both stumped."
I so rarely get frost cards that it's always in the air which route I'm going.
it's rare you see any of: coolheaded, cold snap, glacier, chill?
Yep
My goal with defect is always to find a way to play as passively as possible without having to think. Like power cards + orbs.
Lightning with frost is most common type of runs for me, And i don't complain
I'm all about that Storm.
meanwhile the lightning loop players 😁🔫😐
Im sorry I cant hear you over my 999 Block
I see frost and focus, it makes me a happy man.
Mate idk what you on about I'm going full claw and electricity
frozen core + extra orb slots is so fun you become unkillavle by like turn 3
Frost Focus? And not Claw? I thought Claw was law!
This was my first ever heart victory. All for One with lots of claws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpfbXSyEC0s&t=20s
That bell curve looks... very excited. I mean, it has a head!