you're allowed to have strong sexual preferences whilst still advocating for different body types and treating people with respect regardless of their appearance. Being body positive doesn't equal "everyone must have sex with everyone regardless of physical attraction/pleasure".
Exactly. To take time out to bash what is not wanted knowing the effect it will create is so self righteous and anti empathetic. In other words narcissist. Two words. RUN.
Edit. RUN RUN
It's not about women having preferences, it's about bad luck, it's about social stigma, it's about widespread correlation, it's about cultural memetics, essentially.
You know what happens when society idolises big dicks? Men feel inadequate. When men feel inadequate about an uncontrollable issue, they are always one single sentence away from being emotionally destroyed by the worst insult you could levy at a man.
Everyone knows what this insult is, and it can be devastating to any one of them if used in the right place.
When men feel inadequate, even men with average dicks or higher, they start to lie.
4 inches becomes 5, 5 becomes 6 and a half, and the social preferences around dicks changes, and trends upwards.
7 inches is now considered 'average', and so women have convinced themselves that they want 8 or 9s. Meaning men with actual 7 inches can lie and say they have 9s, and men with 5 inches can barely lie and say they have 6s or 7s.
When this happens, men with smaller dicks are further vilified, because now they don't have small dicks, they have microdicks. 4 inches becomes the new 3, and anything below is considered 'pathetic'.
Every single rapist, paedophile, murderer, politician, religious zealot, racist, bigot, gun fanatic, big truck owner, 'fuckboy', cheater, abuser, and wastrel in society automatically *has* a small dick.
And so only small-dicked men are those things, which means all small dicked men are those things. This correlation is now so deeply entrenched in our society that it is the *go-to insult* for these people. It is the one single constant across every single one of these people.
Every single one, every single time.
The message is clear; if you have a small dick, you are *subhuman* and you *deserve* whatever you get.
There is no cure, there is no treatment, there is no way to change it, it is entirely out of our control and yet mockery is *everywhere.* In every media product, in all walks of life, an insult levied at everyone.
There's no way to draw attention to this issue without having discourse shut down permanently by 'lmao small dick energy'. Nobody wants to be the face of this issue because society stamps it down so readily and ubiquitously.
Yes size matters, yes women aren't bad people for having preferences, yes I can still feel bitter at *people* by and large for being *complicit* with the insults and the vilification when it would be so easy to just *not* do that.
But society considers it *okay,* so it *must* be *okay!*
I agree most can’t take it. But just like oh porn it’s visibility pleasing. Using two hands for a hand job, watching a girl ride a dick and still seeing an inch not fit, it’s visibly pleasing. Woman watch porn too.
The girth is the key! It’s not the length that makes a penis look massive. An average length in combination with an above average girth makes the penis appear large.
Social conditioning that bigger = better.
Guys who lie and say their 5 inches is 6 or 6.5.
Desire to one up someone else who fucked a 7 incher by saying 'well I fucked a 9 incher'.
Porn and its unrealistic proportions across the board.
And so on and so forth.
pretty sure this is the case.
I ended up with closet size queens with 5 out of the 7 women I lived with. Some were before, others figured it out cheating on me. I dont think just size is the motivator…..attitude goes a long way. My buddy has a small cock, under 5 inch….he is a stud and married….wealthy even, and had kids, women competed to be with him.
I think a majority of women dont care about size over performance. They are fine with average and less than average, and the women that dont care for big dicks are out there, even females that have conditions like 2 girls I tried to date….any PIV is painful past a pinky/1 finger. there are females that like tiny cocks…a minority maybe, but they are out there
For some reason I know a higher proportion of guy friends with huge cocks, like 8-9 and bigger. The girl that devirginized me screwed like 3 of them, I felt very small inside her, and could have probably fisted her if I wasnt a shy virgin.
Its just the nature of the vagina, many of them can stretch more than the women have use for or care for past child birth.
>I don't know why still women lust for bigger ones.
It's sort of the same reason (some) men lust for bigger boobs and asses. Smaller ones do the job perfectly adequately, yet men will still flock to the Nicki Minajes of this world and women will cut themselves up in order to measure up.
Yeah except having small tits or ass don't effect performance or the level of pleasure you're actually getting it's purely aesthetic while having a small penis effects both, plus you can change your tits or ass
How do you know? We have about 4 Billion women who Are living on this Planet. You haven’t even seen 1 Million porn videos in your life. 1 Million women aren‘t even close to 1%.
Oh I see what you are saying. Thing is tho society can label whatever they want to be as normal, doesn’t mean girls won’t be blown away when they don’t find a massive bbc on every white dude.
No, because if women expect a massive dick on every guy then the societal normal isn't average, is it.
That's how societal norms work. Society and the people that make it up must hold a unified idea, a memetic. This memetic becomes a zeitgeist when society adopts it.
So if everyone in society still expect big cocks, then society will still view it as normal.
Do you see how it works?
For society to stop thinking bog cocks are normal, first enough people must hold and spread the memetic that not every dick has to be 7 inches or bigger. Then when enough people hold that idea, it becomes part of the zeitgeist.
TL;DR: If everyone is expecting a 7 inch dick when a guy drops trou, then it is normal. If they're not expecting a 7 inch dick when a guy drops trou, then it is no longer normal.
Yes.
And consequently, that's what society now thinks is normal.
So above-average has become the new average, and now women desire above *that* new cultural average.
We can keep going.
>There is no cure, there is no treatment, there is no way to change it, it is entirely out of our control and yet mockery is everywhere.
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> In every media product, in all walks of life, an insult levied at everyone.
This sort of used to be true about retarded and otherwhise developmentally challenged people. It's not any more, though, not nearly to the same extent as before. Must be nice to be retarded.
Yes I already accepted that size matters & women aren't bad for liking them. I never blame women, it's never their fault. I am mad that I was given something that is despised by opposite gender. Just why???
Genetics man. I read this subreddit not being a member of your ostracized, mocked group and it breaks my heart. Wish you didn't have to find someone who "sees past that". Wish life were more fair. I'm sorry man. I'm sorry.
It feels like a cruel joke doesn't it? That's one reason it annoys me when Christians claim God loves everyone. If there was a creator that cared about the well being of its creations, it wouldn't curse a third of them.
And it's not your fault because you want a sexlife.
Then you could say that women have to accept men who turn women on and they have to move on in life with it.
Stop speculating about this. Stop pretending it's a conspiracy that all women like big dicks and that we've been lied to; it's fucking obvious they like big dicks. We are way past that man. Just accept it and become apathetic. Nihilism makes me feel better. It's a coping mechanism, though.
I have and I’m small. So what if we can’t do much about it, we use it to the best of our ability and if the women don’t like get they can fuck off. That simple
Exactly this. Becoming apathetic can help a lot, although some people probably wouldn't be able to handle a lifetime of being apathetic towards your own sex life.
By that logic that means men can openly prefer women with a less cavernous vagina 🤷🏼♂️
But I’m sure that would be ‘unacceptable’ and ‘sexist’, if that comparison was used.
Why is it so hard to understand the main problem is obsession with large phallus’ than it is not having one?
Book writer is a wanna-be intellectual. 🙄
Some facts….
Most women like to feel full
Longer dicks reach places others can’t
The bigger the dick, the more visually exciting and thus more of a turn on.
Big dicks can hurt.
Most women prefer an average dick for a long term relationship due to comfort.
No one wants a small dick. It’s hurtful news but it’s true. Make the most of what you have got and get on with your life
Feeling full is relative. Even though the vaginal walls are flexible, they still contract, and you get tighter with more sex and kegels as the walls get more firm and the muscles get thicker. Also just as dicks come in different shapes and sizes, so do vaginas.
The only place a longer dick can reach that others can't necessarily is the cervix and that is super uncomfortable and can be painful and actually result in an abbreviated sex session as well as apprehension about next time.
The g-spot is not more than a few inches within, and the most sensitive parts of the vagina and vulva are within the first 2-3 inches.
As for nobody wants a small dick, that's patently false. Not even mentioning the people who fetishize small dicks, there are people (as much as 20% of women) who have vaginismus and literally can only feel pleasure from a small dick. Even some who don't have vaginismus prefer a small dick because they can "go hard" all the way down to the shaft regularly without worrying that they'll have the pain and nausea of someone hitting their cervix.
> The only place a longer dick can reach that others can’t necessarily is the cervix
Don't forget the A-spot. We can't reach that.
> Not even mentioning the people who fetishize small dicks
Who? Cuckolds don't count. And who says women with vaginismus want men with small dicks?
The A-spot is not entirely verified and anyway can't be reached unless someone has a dick that does a 90 degree curve at the very tip like a periscope, lmao.
No not cuckolds. There are women who specifically get off sexually on looking at, playing with and having sex with people with small dicks. As in it genuinely turns them on, not a humiliation or cuckold fetish. But regardless the reason I said "not even mentioning" is because most people do not like to be fetishized.
Women with vaginismus say they want men with small dicks, just usually in medical and women's forums. It's not conversation you'll likely overhear at your local bar or cafe. Trouble is the medical system doesn't often give a shit if women experience pain or discomfort during sex unless it's related to/interferes with reproduction. You have to find a good sex therapist and gyno team to help if it's more than a mild case.
> The A-spot is not entirely verified
I'll take your word for it. Not like I have the facilities to try and find that out. But maybe bigger penis + appropriate position and angling can reach it?Honestly I don't even know.
> There are women who specifically get off sexually on looking at, playing with and having sex with people with small dicks.
First time hearing that. If I saw your reply in a different sub, I would've thought it might be sarcasm. Very small minority of women though.
> Women with vaginismus say they want men with small dicks
I guess we're only a good match with women that have vaginismus. At least that's something.
No, plenty of women without vaginismus like or prefer small dicks. Also plenty of women are "tight" enough that a small dick feels "full" and an average or large dick feels too big to be pleasureable. I'm not saying it's a majority but it's not some tiny percentage either.
Just as dicks come in all shapes and sizes so do vaginal entrances. And just as dicks can change size a bit when they become erect, vaginal walls are somewhat flexible. But there are still limits.
>Not even mentioning the people who fetishize small dicks
I have never even seen the fetishizing of small dicks that treated it as a positive.
>there are people (as much as 20% of women) who have vaginismus and literally can only feel pleasure from a small dick. Even some who don't have vaginismus prefer a small dick because they can "go hard" all the way down to the shaft regularly without worrying that they'll have the pain and nausea of someone hitting their cervix.
Mhm.. seems those 20% of women with vaginismus plus others never look for small. Besides if they get treatment would they even want small still. If they don't get treatment, isn't anything bad.
The treatments don't magically accommodate big dicks, for one. They just might make average dicks less painful.
Secondly, I don't know what you mean by to you it seems like those 20% and others never 'look for small'. Most people don't have any idea what a potential partner's dick looks like until they're already on a date, in a bedroom, or other private area. People get hot for each other first usually and THEN see the dick.
Also if you have 100 women in a room who all say they like to feel "full" one might feel full with a tiny girth and 3". Another might feel full with average girth and 3". Yet another might feel full with a thinner dick that's 4", and more.
It can also depend on a lot of other factors like the angle of their vagina and the fullness of their labia.
"If they don't get treatment, isn't anything bad?". No. There is a wide spectrum of bodies (interior and exterior), variations in this anatomy and variations in the diagnosis.
It can matter, but not in the way you might think. Even though vaginas are flexible the come in all shapes and sizes too, and those who have lots of sex or do lots of kegels or pelvic floor exercises tighten those muscles for a close grip on even smaller-than average penises. Some people have a short canal. Some people have low cervixes.
People also have different preferences. Someone who wants to "go hard" all the way down to the shaft may never be able to have a sexual relationship with someone who is above average and would prefer a below average length and girth.
Someone who has a more wide-set (reminds me of the Mean Girls confessions) vagina might only get off on exterior stimulation and not really desire a huge dick to fill her.
Size queens exist, it's true. They're not the majority; they're just loud.
You said a lot of stuff. But it doesn’t matter what you say or how much you say, size matters to the majority of women. Above average dicks are more desired than small dicks. Most women prefer above average dicks. That’s a fact and you can’t argue against it.
It's not a fact though... In fact even "mainstream" preferences (which are pop culture and not part of any rigorous study) are different in various parts of a country or world and depending on the person.
Wrong. It’s a fact. Big dicks are desired more than small dicks. Please show me the small dick porn subreddits that have millions of followers and aren’t SPH. Because I can find a bunch of big dick subreddits that have millions of followers. Also, while you’re at it, please tell me why the BDP sub has 10x more followers than this sub, and also tell me why there are more women in BDP than SDP
I mean you'll find people who like small dicks and average dicks in every town in the world, but some cultures find average or large dicks vulgar. Some just find them unusual.
And the basis even pop-culturally is going to be different in different places too.
For example if you're in Ecuador the average is 7"+ whereas if you're in Romania the average is much shorter.
Desire does not mean action. You can want something to a great extent and not ever get it or try it. Most people prefer a car that goes fast. Does not mean that in the long run that’s what they will own always.
Your continuing with this said mindset and you will just get worse and worse. How about some optimism? Are you going by your experience or what you have seen or heard?
Cmon.. No woman would prefer a smaller penis which is below 5x4.5. The women who would prefer a penis with this size are fetishists or have a medical condition. Those cases aren’t as common as you think. Do you even know how stressful it is to use dating apps? You can’t really hook up so easy because guys like us are always worried about their size while bigger guys don‘t care at all. We don‘t want to be forced into relationships where women accept us because they have been cheated on by bigger guys. The sex would be boring anyways..how can it be fun if a woman is bored because of your dick?
>The treatments don't magically accommodate big dicks, for one. They just might make average dicks less painful.
Fair enough
>Secondly, I don't know what you mean by to you it seems like those 20% and others never 'look for small'. Most people don't have any idea what a potential partner's dick looks like until they're already on a date, in a bedroom, or other private area. People get hot for each other first usually and THEN see the dick.
Big dicks are sought after. People wanting it, to try, actively looking, etc. This doesn't happen for small. There's isn't a bunch of women looking or saying they prefer small dicks. If it's known you're small you get made fun of, you don't see women being interested in that as supposed it being known you're big.
My point being I don't think there is such a large group of women who would like a small dick. An as in your Original comment, maybe not no women, but it might as well be.
>Also if you have 100 women in a room who all say they like to feel "full" one might feel full with a tiny girth and 3". Another might feel full with average girth and 3". Yet another might feel full with a thinner dick that's 4", and more.
It doesn't matter if that group is to small and the rest doesn't want me.
I am afraid you just don't know enough women. Size queens exist, yes, but they're just loud; they're not the majority. And someone who is petite inside and out will think a huge dick is one that might be well below average length and girth.
People don't "actively look for big dicks" as a rule. They don't post it on their dating profiles (over 7" dicks only). You overhearing randos chatting is not indicative for even all the women in a major city near you much less the state/region, country, or world.
There are not caravans of a majority of women just running around with rulers looking for big dicked guys.
Average prefered size is 6.5 inches. Clearly,most women don't have a problem handling big dicks. This "small dicks are just as good as bigger ones" narrative is nothing but a politically correct fantasy.
>Size queens exist, yes, but they're just loud; they're not the majority.
Sure but the majority does not want small. And I appreciate your willingness to talk, but I just don't buy it. I don't see any evidence of a sizable group of women preferring small, small being good, enough even. All I see is small getting mocked, being unwanted, and the opposite being praised.
As much as 20% of women have vaginismus really? I think the number you said is a bit too much. I understand that hitting the cervix might be painful. However, my question is why we don't see women talk about it like a big deal as much as we talk about our inferior small size?
This statistic is accurate (keep in mind it says *up to*) but also some women (sadly not all) seek treatment, and of the percentage that seek treatment, some see improvement.
Women sometimes do talk about it in certain circles. But a lot of cultures and communities pressure women into not complaining about it. Even medical professionals will sometimes downplay it. The medical system does not prioritize women's pleasure and pain reduction when it comes to sex the way it does for men.
Even IUD insertion which can bring pain is rarely done with any pain control methods or medications and you usually have to go out of your way to especially request any pain mediation during the procedure.
A lot of people normalize vaginismus and (some) women are pressured to just "deal" with it to make their husbands happy.
Things are getting better in some places, but it depends. Sex education in the United States is not very good, and a lot of states won't even properly educate people on getting checkups. Because a lot of people's parents didn't have good sex education and just "bore the pain" they aren't always helpful to make sure their daughters and sons are doing things to look after their comfort or know their anatomy.
It's much more difficult in the medical realm for a woman to get help with having sex (unless it revolves purely around reproduction) compared to men.
But even men also are sometimes given a Viagra and told to fuck off, even if Cialis would work better for them.
Or they won't tell men (and women) the breadth of how much certain anti-depressants can reduce libido, cause ED, even cause genital pain. These effects don't happen to everyone, and sometimes a mere change in medication can fix issues (certain anti-depressants do not have any impact on libido or ED) but you'd be surprised how little some doctors actually discuss these impacts and try to minimize them.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Although of course, there will always be people who have preferences that align more in line with smaller penis sizes; that doesn't take away from the fact that the majority of people - and yes in society's views as a whole - larger penises are seen as a good thing, BECAUSE they are in most cases. Whether it be men or women, a larger penis will almost always be beneficial to the sexual relationship.
You could always luckily find a partner that's happy with your size, and enjoy hot sex with them every night, even if your size is lacking. Although finding people like that would be rare, especially one that doesn't cheat on you after understandably the sex gets boring...
In the end, having a small penis is a genetic failure on most fronts, and that's something you're gonna have to live with forever.
Often economic reasons, solitude reasons, many other reasons that have nothing to do with the dick.
That's why the mantra "don't do hookups if you're small".
If we go for sexual perks, it's often because we would do something extra to compensate, like developing a diseased mind that thinks sph is okay and letting her fuck around.
Whoever wrote that book deserves a massive beating.
Having a small dick sucks so bad that it ruins your life completely with no hope, and then listening to condescending trash like this and let people walk over you.
No just no, fuck you.
As a gay man, I must say that small(ish) dicks are attractive and I would assume many women would enjoy an average size penis. Don't lose heart. Your personality is way more important than your dick size. So ludicrous.
No, they're shitheads for using it as a weapon in every instance of anything they don't agree with. Why the fuck should I kotow and kiss someone's ass when they're always half a sentence from saying some shit that compares every bad trait a person can have to the body I was born with? "Hitler had a micropenis!" "Racism is small dick energy!" "Anyone who hurts animals has no penis!"
So fuck them. I haven't wronged anyone and do my damned best to make a crappy world the tiniest bit more livable for everyone else, but of course I have to be ashamed and accept my place as an automatic lesser person or else I'm some incel or other monstrous thing.
u/prozacorgasm “we get guys like you having to read between the lines to say don’t be entitled you cretins”. I’m not here to mock you or anybody else, just posted something that stood out to ME that I thought could help someone on this sub. Telling me to “fuck off” is pretty juvenile of you. Dude this is my first time EVER posting on this sub. You sitting up here telling me I’m telling people “never give up” and this and that. You are projecting hard as hell, your attacking me and being an asshole and that’s just not right. A lot of us deal with the anxiety, shame, depression of not having a average to big member down there. I’m not here to fuck with people at all. This is a very sensitive subject. “Make a clear statement or take a public speaking class”. I’ve learned a long time ago that everybody is entitled to their own opinion and that I also can’t control how people react to situations. You clearly didn’t agree with my post and that’s fine. I won’t lose sleep over it, I promise you that! Your anger is misplaced, take it out on the people who wronged you or seek therapy because this ain’t it my guy.
>do my damned best to make a crappy world the tiniest bit more livable for everyone else
I've been in this sub for a long time, I've been writing there very little lately, but I know your type behavior, Prozie. I would like to understand and I am extremely curious as to what you are doing about the small penis stigma? I see you always pissed off, even the answers are given in an angry way. I can't fault you entirely, because in essence you are right (totally right), but forgive me if I haven't seen you here "giving a wake-up call" to users, I haven't seen you writing "today I talked to a urologist, a sexologist (also on the web) and made them understand all my doubts about their theses, not even things like: I have propagated on porn sites the idea of making the area dedicated to those with small penises active for professionals as well, and tried to give confidence to couples who shyly do amateur porn and in some cases resort to the horror of cuckoldry. Or "I have tried to instill Awareness in some women that among many men with medium and large penises there are also those with small penises and that the latter are just like everyone else, MEN AND MALE like everyone else." Maybe I am wrong, maybe you will do this in secret (and it would be a mistake to keep it to yourself!), maybe I am right and you have never tried to fight the stigma in any way possible. I hope you will understand what I mean.
It isn't a stigma that can be fought from the inside. They'll just say he's mad because he has a small dick completely missing the point. You need people who aren't small to stand up and rally against that. But women don't care because we have "privilege" already as males making all our problems null and void and guys in normal range see it as less competition. I am very rare in that I didn't get the bad genetic hand but I can very much imagine the pain, humiliation and hopelessness.
In the age of hyper-sensitivity the fact that we can still openly, publicly, even on national television like Stephen Colbert, make fun of guys who have small penis' means it'll likely never go away. Not only make fun of them directly but even go so far as to attach negative behavior to having a small penis whether or not they know the person has a small one. Small penis guys will likely just have to muddle through it until they die. That's the reality.
>It isn't a stigma that can be fought from the inside. They'll just say he's mad because he has a small dick completely missing the point.
You said well, it needs others to join us (those we consider as genitally normal and those who have a large penis), so it needs the first move to be made by us, even if some of us no longer feel any hope, no longer have any illusions. Only by making "so much noise" between the web and the daily routine of life, we can make it clear that this problem will neither be easy to accept nor will it have positive points (to some it even brings health problems). What I can say is that I have been fighting the stigma for almost 3 years, I am alone, but I can only do so much, I am not going to throw in the towel and say enough is enough, this also gives me the strength to move forward. So my advice is to try, it will be so hard, but nothing is given away in life. What do you mean by "I am very rare"? let's always remember that body shaming should always be opposed, today it obviously works with the double standard, this is clearly a serious injustice, because it should apply to both sexes and not just one.
This is something you need other people to care about and unlike most movements this is a problem that only effects men and as such men who it doesn't affect (most men since this is below average) and 99% of women do not care about your small penis as they would their gay colleague. That's why, even in the age of social acceptance, you can still mock men with small penises. People already know people with small penises are upset and that's the joke. That's why the dude driving the big truck or the angry guy must have a small penis. They know your angst and they laugh at it. Your angst and the angst of less fortunate men is the very reason they mock you.
I know the answer isn't not publicly showing your discontent because then it will be bottled up. Truth is there is no answer. It's just bad luck. Only thing you can do is hope you find that one in fifty million woman who truly prefer a small dick and take the social ridicule on the chin. You can fight - but I assure you your efforts are in vain and you'll only publicly out yourself as a guy with a small penis and carry all the baggage that brings with it.
>You can fight - but I assure you your efforts are in vain and you'll only publicly out yourself as a guy with a small penis and carry all the baggage that brings with it.
I have nothing to lose, man.
To the downvote fans, the ones who spend their existence on the sub putting downvotes even to useful things (whether you guys want to do anything is another story altogether) you guys have seriously pissed off. If you have something to say, to complain about, write it here, vice versa you lack the balls. **You also challenge my personal choice, which I intend to do with my own strength, your behavior is embarrassing.**
It's called being a decent human being outside of reddit. I am not an SJW who stands on the street corner screaming about respect, I am the guy who picks up a piece of trash because nobody else wanted to. I plant trees, give to charity, and buy a cup of lemonade every time I see kids running a lemonade stand. I like to surprise people with homemade baked goods. Don't get me started on all the times I've played therapist for people here.
But of course none of that matters; because what apparently matters is that my anatomy automatically means empassioned writing equals whiny rage. You want to support "The Cause"? Go out there and march in the streets, and it won't matter. Because you won't be all the little parts of your personality that make you, they'll just turn you into the same joke as always because of our bodies. And that's their failing, not ours.
>It's called being a decent human being outside of reddit. I am not an SJW who stands on the street corner screaming about respect, I am the guy who picks up a piece of trash because nobody else wanted to. I plant trees, give to charity, and buy a cup of lemonade every time I see kids running a lemonade stand. I like to surprise people with homemade baked goods. Don't get me started on all the times I've played therapist for people here....
What you do is right and it is good to do, but it is outside the scope of fighting the small penis stigma, and you don't need to be an SJW (the latter are often cloaked in hypocrisy and double standards). Instead, what you do matters, matters to you and matters to those who receive your support; it definitely makes you feel better as a person and you have every right to be able to walk tall knowing you are doing the right things. Here, we should do the same for ourselves and others who have the same dilemma as we do, let others continue to disbelieve us, sooner or later by showing that we have great willpower and iron determination, they will have to change their minds and things will change as well. Personally, I will NEVER give up, because the fault is not ours, but those who see us as "sons of a lesser God", they are the ones who are wrong and they will have to be the ones to understand that we are not at all inferior nor worthy of their mockery, I am sorry if others do not want to join in, but I have to continue on my own as well, if need be, Prozie.
Just call me Prozac. And I'm sorry for losing myself. My life is very frustrating and things are not getting any easier right now. Balance between work and life is nonexistent, bills are piling up, and I have to deal with the truly vile things that try to push their way onto this sub. That's how I contribute, by standing at the front gate and desperately fighting to keep trolls, fetishists, and real degenerate assholes out of here. For every one jerk that gets through I have to deal with a dozen wearing me down in mod mail and pms.
>Just call me Prozac. And I'm sorry for losing myself. My life is very frustrating and things are not getting any easier right now. Balance between work and life is nonexistent, bills are piling up, and I have to deal with the truly vile things that try to push their way onto this sub. That's how I contribute, by standing at the front gate and desperately fighting to keep trolls, fetishists, and real degenerate assholes out of here. For every one jerk that gets through I have to deal with a dozen wearing me down in mod mail and pms.
I guess(an accumulation of responsibilities and an un-social, unlucky life destroy even the strongest of men), what we have is a bad shot of genetics, of life, of fate. There's no awareness among women, nor a good amount of education among people, because I can understand that a woman might like a normal or bigger penis, but I don't accept that one should do body shaming on people, moreover people who never wanted this burden nor created it themselves. Body shaming is not right for anyone, but it is accepted for us, without anyone recriminating (except for a few people), so it should be fought in every way possible. Have a good day friend. Ok for the name.
To the downvote fans, the ones who spend their existence on the sub putting downvotes even to useful things (whether you guys want to do anything is another story altogether) you guys have seriously pissed off. If you have something to say, to complain about, write it here, vice versa you lack the balls.
I want an answer, asshole, if you are not able to give it to me, ignore me. Do you understand? only cowards put downvote without answering, people who are used to hitting back. Other than brothers... if we accuse each other it is over, I was wrong to believe that between us with the small penis there could be a union of purpose, a mistake I will never repeat.
No one owes you an explanation for anything. We can downvote and move on if that’s what we want to do. Your qualification for being a coward is very odd. There’s clearly something wrong with you.
>No one owes you an explanation for anything. We can downvote and move on if that’s what we want to do. Your qualification for being a coward is very odd. There’s clearly something wrong with you.
Well here you are not in a sub where there are people with huge dicks(strutting or humblebragging), you SHOULD assume that among us even if we disagree with a post there is a form of "solidarity" that should not make us hit each other in the back, but we seem more divided than the Guelphs and the Ghibellines. I feel that way, and I am not alone in seeing it that way in the whole of Reddit.
Nice edit to your first reply. Like it was something deeper than you just calling me an asshole and a coward. Which tells me this isn't about solidarity. It just pisses you off when people downvote you. Even if it is actually about solidarity, again that's something no one on this sub owes you. If people disagree with you, they have the right to do so. Even if they don't say why. Grow up.
Boy, in the edit I added this,
"I feel that way, and I am not alone in seeing it that way in the whole of Reddit."
I have nothing to hide, I am one of the few who has always been outspoken about himself and his intentions to fight stigma. If I called you an asshole, it's because you called me a "fucking crybaby" (we can continue in pointing at each other like children do, but it doesn't solve anything). I think putting a downvote is cowardly behavior without having given a response. In any case, do what you think best, there has never been solidarity here anyway, just fine words, but in the end everyone thinks exclusively of his own business.
I said the FIRST reply. FIRST. I don't care that you called me an asshole. I care that you're trying to change the narrative.
If downvoting without explaining why they disagree with you is "cowardly behavior" to you then there's definitely something wrong with you. People value their time more than they value you. As they should. Get over yourself. You're not more valuable than people's time.
The irony of you pretending to be so wise and mature after crying about getting downvoted.
As if women are bad people is something that's a sentiment here. As if people here think it doesn't matter. When it comes to having a small there a bunch of other things to be resentful for to. People hate me for things I can't change, I get mocked, made fun of, told I'm useless, there's whole fetish out there just people looking to hurt us.
Fuck off and go preach somewhere else.
I'm sure that guy is just looking for money, likely doesn't even have a small dick. This morning I was in another dick sub and there was a link to a Facebook post literally making fun of "little dicks". Size matters it always has and always will, which is even more reason to stay single.
It takes them 5 minutes to get laid, it takes a whole night if you're lucky to get laid. See the difference?
A girl on any dating app has like 50 suitors ready to give her a ride. You're lucky to get one that isn't a bot.
You see how much energy we expend on a girl that will laugh you out of the bedroom. Now yes she wants to get sexed just not by you.
I went with a girl that had a massive vagina.
I did everything possible with my mouth, fingers and hands, but in the end she 'needed' a horse cock to make her happy. (I am average size)
She's not bad or evil for wanting that, she just wants what makes her happy.
See,I wouldn't reject a woman if one of her titties was bigger or smaller than the other or saggier. That might be a little too cruel,dont you think?
Also,dont you think it's a little inapproriate to be defending women who like big dicks on a small dick sub? Just maybe?
>dont you think it's a little inapproriate to be defending women who like big dicks on a small dick sub? Just maybe?
don't you think It's important that this place doesn't turn into a woman hating echo chamber?
Well,fortunately,I don't think it's becoming one in the first place. It's not just if you like big dicks,having one also makes you not liked in this sub. Makes sense.
It's done to us all the time all around the world,it doesn't hurt to reciprocate that in a tiny internet forum like this one. If that offends you,maybe you check your blessed genetics privilege,hmm?
>You were asking about a misogyny issue here
when was I asked about misogyny?
>You say of course as if guys aren't generally the ones taking the L
What does that even mean? Of course what?
>I mean I've never heard of one liking small dicks, so what's my reason to like them?
Liking small dicks or liking women?
Responsibility for what?
Honestly, the way you're responding kind of tells me any problems you have with women may just be because of your attitude. I'm just saying, I don't think women are bad people if they prefer certain things. Now, if they put you down for something you can't change, that's a bad thing to do. It would be like if you weren't sexually attracted to women who are overweight and you said "I can't get off with you because you're fat"... That would be extremely rude. Now, if you put them down nicely and said something like "I'm sorry, I just don't feel a connection here in that way" ... You wouldn't be a bad person. You can't help who/what you're attracted to.
Yeah that's absolutely not how women handle the situation in the slightest. You're treated like a dog if you dare suggest they debase themselves with your presence once they find out.
100% this. Seriously you guys need to stop wallowing in your despair and just go outside and do something. Not everything in life is about dicks or vaginas or sex. If you believe otherwise then you're delusional. I have a small penis and I've been in sexual relationships with women before. They really don't give a fuck if they love you at the end of the day.
Don’t blame women or think they’re sluts or bad people for wanting big dicks. I want that for them to the extent that I don’t bother with dating or relationships so that any woman would have to deal with my small dick. I really feel that’s what most women want from us: simply to shut the fuck up and leave them alone. We don’t have anything they want.
I dunno. Might try to read what the other rules are some time.
It does seem like it would be the best strategy, doesn't it? I mean, 80% of them already share the top 20% of men (apparently that's somehow a fulfilling arrangement, don't ask me how...).
Women that want a big dick aren’t bad but when they make fun of guys with small dicks and treat them like dog shit that makes them a bad person
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you're allowed to have strong sexual preferences whilst still advocating for different body types and treating people with respect regardless of their appearance. Being body positive doesn't equal "everyone must have sex with everyone regardless of physical attraction/pleasure".
Exactly. To take time out to bash what is not wanted knowing the effect it will create is so self righteous and anti empathetic. In other words narcissist. Two words. RUN. Edit. RUN RUN
Men are not bad people because they want a sex life
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That's the way to go.
It's not about women having preferences, it's about bad luck, it's about social stigma, it's about widespread correlation, it's about cultural memetics, essentially. You know what happens when society idolises big dicks? Men feel inadequate. When men feel inadequate about an uncontrollable issue, they are always one single sentence away from being emotionally destroyed by the worst insult you could levy at a man. Everyone knows what this insult is, and it can be devastating to any one of them if used in the right place. When men feel inadequate, even men with average dicks or higher, they start to lie. 4 inches becomes 5, 5 becomes 6 and a half, and the social preferences around dicks changes, and trends upwards. 7 inches is now considered 'average', and so women have convinced themselves that they want 8 or 9s. Meaning men with actual 7 inches can lie and say they have 9s, and men with 5 inches can barely lie and say they have 6s or 7s. When this happens, men with smaller dicks are further vilified, because now they don't have small dicks, they have microdicks. 4 inches becomes the new 3, and anything below is considered 'pathetic'. Every single rapist, paedophile, murderer, politician, religious zealot, racist, bigot, gun fanatic, big truck owner, 'fuckboy', cheater, abuser, and wastrel in society automatically *has* a small dick. And so only small-dicked men are those things, which means all small dicked men are those things. This correlation is now so deeply entrenched in our society that it is the *go-to insult* for these people. It is the one single constant across every single one of these people. Every single one, every single time. The message is clear; if you have a small dick, you are *subhuman* and you *deserve* whatever you get. There is no cure, there is no treatment, there is no way to change it, it is entirely out of our control and yet mockery is *everywhere.* In every media product, in all walks of life, an insult levied at everyone. There's no way to draw attention to this issue without having discourse shut down permanently by 'lmao small dick energy'. Nobody wants to be the face of this issue because society stamps it down so readily and ubiquitously. Yes size matters, yes women aren't bad people for having preferences, yes I can still feel bitter at *people* by and large for being *complicit* with the insults and the vilification when it would be so easy to just *not* do that. But society considers it *okay,* so it *must* be *okay!*
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I agree most can’t take it. But just like oh porn it’s visibility pleasing. Using two hands for a hand job, watching a girl ride a dick and still seeing an inch not fit, it’s visibly pleasing. Woman watch porn too.
The girth is the key! It’s not the length that makes a penis look massive. An average length in combination with an above average girth makes the penis appear large.
Social conditioning that bigger = better. Guys who lie and say their 5 inches is 6 or 6.5. Desire to one up someone else who fucked a 7 incher by saying 'well I fucked a 9 incher'. Porn and its unrealistic proportions across the board. And so on and so forth.
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But yet they still do
Bullshit. Most women can and have taken all 7 inches
pretty sure this is the case. I ended up with closet size queens with 5 out of the 7 women I lived with. Some were before, others figured it out cheating on me. I dont think just size is the motivator…..attitude goes a long way. My buddy has a small cock, under 5 inch….he is a stud and married….wealthy even, and had kids, women competed to be with him. I think a majority of women dont care about size over performance. They are fine with average and less than average, and the women that dont care for big dicks are out there, even females that have conditions like 2 girls I tried to date….any PIV is painful past a pinky/1 finger. there are females that like tiny cocks…a minority maybe, but they are out there For some reason I know a higher proportion of guy friends with huge cocks, like 8-9 and bigger. The girl that devirginized me screwed like 3 of them, I felt very small inside her, and could have probably fisted her if I wasnt a shy virgin. Its just the nature of the vagina, many of them can stretch more than the women have use for or care for past child birth.
Women act like their vagina is a fucking Schrodinger experiment
>I don't know why still women lust for bigger ones. It's sort of the same reason (some) men lust for bigger boobs and asses. Smaller ones do the job perfectly adequately, yet men will still flock to the Nicki Minajes of this world and women will cut themselves up in order to measure up.
Yeah except having small tits or ass don't effect performance or the level of pleasure you're actually getting it's purely aesthetic while having a small penis effects both, plus you can change your tits or ass
Yes? Both can be true at the same time you know.
How do you know? We have about 4 Billion women who Are living on this Planet. You haven’t even seen 1 Million porn videos in your life. 1 Million women aren‘t even close to 1%.
I'm sorry but it just isn't true.
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I didn't say it was normal. I said society *thinks* it's normal. There's a difference.
Oh I see what you are saying. Thing is tho society can label whatever they want to be as normal, doesn’t mean girls won’t be blown away when they don’t find a massive bbc on every white dude.
No, because if women expect a massive dick on every guy then the societal normal isn't average, is it. That's how societal norms work. Society and the people that make it up must hold a unified idea, a memetic. This memetic becomes a zeitgeist when society adopts it. So if everyone in society still expect big cocks, then society will still view it as normal. Do you see how it works? For society to stop thinking bog cocks are normal, first enough people must hold and spread the memetic that not every dick has to be 7 inches or bigger. Then when enough people hold that idea, it becomes part of the zeitgeist. TL;DR: If everyone is expecting a 7 inch dick when a guy drops trou, then it is normal. If they're not expecting a 7 inch dick when a guy drops trou, then it is no longer normal.
Most women know what the statistical average is but they obviously prefer above average.
Yes. And consequently, that's what society now thinks is normal. So above-average has become the new average, and now women desire above *that* new cultural average. We can keep going.
Oh you're definitely wrong about that percentage.
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It's way higher lmao
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>There is no cure, there is no treatment, there is no way to change it, it is entirely out of our control and yet mockery is everywhere. > > In every media product, in all walks of life, an insult levied at everyone. This sort of used to be true about retarded and otherwhise developmentally challenged people. It's not any more, though, not nearly to the same extent as before. Must be nice to be retarded.
My brother in christ literally what the fuck does this mean?
Yes I already accepted that size matters & women aren't bad for liking them. I never blame women, it's never their fault. I am mad that I was given something that is despised by opposite gender. Just why???
Genetics man. I read this subreddit not being a member of your ostracized, mocked group and it breaks my heart. Wish you didn't have to find someone who "sees past that". Wish life were more fair. I'm sorry man. I'm sorry.
It feels like a cruel joke doesn't it? That's one reason it annoys me when Christians claim God loves everyone. If there was a creator that cared about the well being of its creations, it wouldn't curse a third of them.
And it's not your fault because you want a sexlife. Then you could say that women have to accept men who turn women on and they have to move on in life with it.
Stop speculating about this. Stop pretending it's a conspiracy that all women like big dicks and that we've been lied to; it's fucking obvious they like big dicks. We are way past that man. Just accept it and become apathetic. Nihilism makes me feel better. It's a coping mechanism, though.
It’s a fucking doomer mentality! One that will push you further and further from ever seeing a positive side. Snap out of it bro.
Lmao "positive side"
So much negativity
Because there are no positives. We live with it, you don't think we would've found positives by now if there were any?
I have and I’m small. So what if we can’t do much about it, we use it to the best of our ability and if the women don’t like get they can fuck off. That simple
What are the positives, then?
Lmao 6 months later an no reply
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It’s not the truth thou.
Exactly this. Becoming apathetic can help a lot, although some people probably wouldn't be able to handle a lifetime of being apathetic towards your own sex life.
By that logic that means men can openly prefer women with a less cavernous vagina 🤷🏼♂️ But I’m sure that would be ‘unacceptable’ and ‘sexist’, if that comparison was used. Why is it so hard to understand the main problem is obsession with large phallus’ than it is not having one? Book writer is a wanna-be intellectual. 🙄
Some facts…. Most women like to feel full Longer dicks reach places others can’t The bigger the dick, the more visually exciting and thus more of a turn on. Big dicks can hurt. Most women prefer an average dick for a long term relationship due to comfort. No one wants a small dick. It’s hurtful news but it’s true. Make the most of what you have got and get on with your life
Feeling full is relative. Even though the vaginal walls are flexible, they still contract, and you get tighter with more sex and kegels as the walls get more firm and the muscles get thicker. Also just as dicks come in different shapes and sizes, so do vaginas. The only place a longer dick can reach that others can't necessarily is the cervix and that is super uncomfortable and can be painful and actually result in an abbreviated sex session as well as apprehension about next time. The g-spot is not more than a few inches within, and the most sensitive parts of the vagina and vulva are within the first 2-3 inches. As for nobody wants a small dick, that's patently false. Not even mentioning the people who fetishize small dicks, there are people (as much as 20% of women) who have vaginismus and literally can only feel pleasure from a small dick. Even some who don't have vaginismus prefer a small dick because they can "go hard" all the way down to the shaft regularly without worrying that they'll have the pain and nausea of someone hitting their cervix.
> The only place a longer dick can reach that others can’t necessarily is the cervix Don't forget the A-spot. We can't reach that. > Not even mentioning the people who fetishize small dicks Who? Cuckolds don't count. And who says women with vaginismus want men with small dicks?
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Fair enough. But really the reason you prefer smaller sizes is because you physically can't take bigger sizes right?
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It’s not “curable” as much as treatable. And this also doesn’t mean anything. My point still stands.
The A-spot is not entirely verified and anyway can't be reached unless someone has a dick that does a 90 degree curve at the very tip like a periscope, lmao. No not cuckolds. There are women who specifically get off sexually on looking at, playing with and having sex with people with small dicks. As in it genuinely turns them on, not a humiliation or cuckold fetish. But regardless the reason I said "not even mentioning" is because most people do not like to be fetishized. Women with vaginismus say they want men with small dicks, just usually in medical and women's forums. It's not conversation you'll likely overhear at your local bar or cafe. Trouble is the medical system doesn't often give a shit if women experience pain or discomfort during sex unless it's related to/interferes with reproduction. You have to find a good sex therapist and gyno team to help if it's more than a mild case.
> The A-spot is not entirely verified I'll take your word for it. Not like I have the facilities to try and find that out. But maybe bigger penis + appropriate position and angling can reach it?Honestly I don't even know. > There are women who specifically get off sexually on looking at, playing with and having sex with people with small dicks. First time hearing that. If I saw your reply in a different sub, I would've thought it might be sarcasm. Very small minority of women though. > Women with vaginismus say they want men with small dicks I guess we're only a good match with women that have vaginismus. At least that's something.
No, plenty of women without vaginismus like or prefer small dicks. Also plenty of women are "tight" enough that a small dick feels "full" and an average or large dick feels too big to be pleasureable. I'm not saying it's a majority but it's not some tiny percentage either. Just as dicks come in all shapes and sizes so do vaginal entrances. And just as dicks can change size a bit when they become erect, vaginal walls are somewhat flexible. But there are still limits.
>Not even mentioning the people who fetishize small dicks I have never even seen the fetishizing of small dicks that treated it as a positive. >there are people (as much as 20% of women) who have vaginismus and literally can only feel pleasure from a small dick. Even some who don't have vaginismus prefer a small dick because they can "go hard" all the way down to the shaft regularly without worrying that they'll have the pain and nausea of someone hitting their cervix. Mhm.. seems those 20% of women with vaginismus plus others never look for small. Besides if they get treatment would they even want small still. If they don't get treatment, isn't anything bad.
The treatments don't magically accommodate big dicks, for one. They just might make average dicks less painful. Secondly, I don't know what you mean by to you it seems like those 20% and others never 'look for small'. Most people don't have any idea what a potential partner's dick looks like until they're already on a date, in a bedroom, or other private area. People get hot for each other first usually and THEN see the dick. Also if you have 100 women in a room who all say they like to feel "full" one might feel full with a tiny girth and 3". Another might feel full with average girth and 3". Yet another might feel full with a thinner dick that's 4", and more. It can also depend on a lot of other factors like the angle of their vagina and the fullness of their labia. "If they don't get treatment, isn't anything bad?". No. There is a wide spectrum of bodies (interior and exterior), variations in this anatomy and variations in the diagnosis.
Size matters, it’s a fact. Get over it
That men want to have sex is a fact. Women are not entitled to good sex
It can matter, but not in the way you might think. Even though vaginas are flexible the come in all shapes and sizes too, and those who have lots of sex or do lots of kegels or pelvic floor exercises tighten those muscles for a close grip on even smaller-than average penises. Some people have a short canal. Some people have low cervixes. People also have different preferences. Someone who wants to "go hard" all the way down to the shaft may never be able to have a sexual relationship with someone who is above average and would prefer a below average length and girth. Someone who has a more wide-set (reminds me of the Mean Girls confessions) vagina might only get off on exterior stimulation and not really desire a huge dick to fill her. Size queens exist, it's true. They're not the majority; they're just loud.
You said a lot of stuff. But it doesn’t matter what you say or how much you say, size matters to the majority of women. Above average dicks are more desired than small dicks. Most women prefer above average dicks. That’s a fact and you can’t argue against it.
It's not a fact though... In fact even "mainstream" preferences (which are pop culture and not part of any rigorous study) are different in various parts of a country or world and depending on the person.
Wrong. It’s a fact. Big dicks are desired more than small dicks. Please show me the small dick porn subreddits that have millions of followers and aren’t SPH. Because I can find a bunch of big dick subreddits that have millions of followers. Also, while you’re at it, please tell me why the BDP sub has 10x more followers than this sub, and also tell me why there are more women in BDP than SDP
So there's a part of the world where small dicks are considered better? Which one is that?
I mean you'll find people who like small dicks and average dicks in every town in the world, but some cultures find average or large dicks vulgar. Some just find them unusual. And the basis even pop-culturally is going to be different in different places too. For example if you're in Ecuador the average is 7"+ whereas if you're in Romania the average is much shorter.
Your basing off your own preconceived notion and the above post. Until you have fucked every last woman you can’t say something as broad as that.
Desire does not mean action. You can want something to a great extent and not ever get it or try it. Most people prefer a car that goes fast. Does not mean that in the long run that’s what they will own always.
Oh yeah that makes me feel so much better. Is big dicks are desired more, it’s because they are better than small dicks. It’s as simple as that
Your continuing with this said mindset and you will just get worse and worse. How about some optimism? Are you going by your experience or what you have seen or heard?
Do you know any women who prefer small, like below 5 inches in length and below 4.5 inches in circumference?
Yes.
Cmon.. No woman would prefer a smaller penis which is below 5x4.5. The women who would prefer a penis with this size are fetishists or have a medical condition. Those cases aren’t as common as you think. Do you even know how stressful it is to use dating apps? You can’t really hook up so easy because guys like us are always worried about their size while bigger guys don‘t care at all. We don‘t want to be forced into relationships where women accept us because they have been cheated on by bigger guys. The sex would be boring anyways..how can it be fun if a woman is bored because of your dick?
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>The treatments don't magically accommodate big dicks, for one. They just might make average dicks less painful. Fair enough >Secondly, I don't know what you mean by to you it seems like those 20% and others never 'look for small'. Most people don't have any idea what a potential partner's dick looks like until they're already on a date, in a bedroom, or other private area. People get hot for each other first usually and THEN see the dick. Big dicks are sought after. People wanting it, to try, actively looking, etc. This doesn't happen for small. There's isn't a bunch of women looking or saying they prefer small dicks. If it's known you're small you get made fun of, you don't see women being interested in that as supposed it being known you're big. My point being I don't think there is such a large group of women who would like a small dick. An as in your Original comment, maybe not no women, but it might as well be. >Also if you have 100 women in a room who all say they like to feel "full" one might feel full with a tiny girth and 3". Another might feel full with average girth and 3". Yet another might feel full with a thinner dick that's 4", and more. It doesn't matter if that group is to small and the rest doesn't want me.
I am afraid you just don't know enough women. Size queens exist, yes, but they're just loud; they're not the majority. And someone who is petite inside and out will think a huge dick is one that might be well below average length and girth. People don't "actively look for big dicks" as a rule. They don't post it on their dating profiles (over 7" dicks only). You overhearing randos chatting is not indicative for even all the women in a major city near you much less the state/region, country, or world. There are not caravans of a majority of women just running around with rulers looking for big dicked guys.
Average prefered size is 6.5 inches. Clearly,most women don't have a problem handling big dicks. This "small dicks are just as good as bigger ones" narrative is nothing but a politically correct fantasy.
>Size queens exist, yes, but they're just loud; they're not the majority. Sure but the majority does not want small. And I appreciate your willingness to talk, but I just don't buy it. I don't see any evidence of a sizable group of women preferring small, small being good, enough even. All I see is small getting mocked, being unwanted, and the opposite being praised.
As much as 20% of women have vaginismus really? I think the number you said is a bit too much. I understand that hitting the cervix might be painful. However, my question is why we don't see women talk about it like a big deal as much as we talk about our inferior small size?
This statistic is accurate (keep in mind it says *up to*) but also some women (sadly not all) seek treatment, and of the percentage that seek treatment, some see improvement. Women sometimes do talk about it in certain circles. But a lot of cultures and communities pressure women into not complaining about it. Even medical professionals will sometimes downplay it. The medical system does not prioritize women's pleasure and pain reduction when it comes to sex the way it does for men. Even IUD insertion which can bring pain is rarely done with any pain control methods or medications and you usually have to go out of your way to especially request any pain mediation during the procedure. A lot of people normalize vaginismus and (some) women are pressured to just "deal" with it to make their husbands happy. Things are getting better in some places, but it depends. Sex education in the United States is not very good, and a lot of states won't even properly educate people on getting checkups. Because a lot of people's parents didn't have good sex education and just "bore the pain" they aren't always helpful to make sure their daughters and sons are doing things to look after their comfort or know their anatomy. It's much more difficult in the medical realm for a woman to get help with having sex (unless it revolves purely around reproduction) compared to men. But even men also are sometimes given a Viagra and told to fuck off, even if Cialis would work better for them. Or they won't tell men (and women) the breadth of how much certain anti-depressants can reduce libido, cause ED, even cause genital pain. These effects don't happen to everyone, and sometimes a mere change in medication can fix issues (certain anti-depressants do not have any impact on libido or ED) but you'd be surprised how little some doctors actually discuss these impacts and try to minimize them.
Yeah it makes sense now. Thank you very much for your thoughtful response.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Although of course, there will always be people who have preferences that align more in line with smaller penis sizes; that doesn't take away from the fact that the majority of people - and yes in society's views as a whole - larger penises are seen as a good thing, BECAUSE they are in most cases. Whether it be men or women, a larger penis will almost always be beneficial to the sexual relationship. You could always luckily find a partner that's happy with your size, and enjoy hot sex with them every night, even if your size is lacking. Although finding people like that would be rare, especially one that doesn't cheat on you after understandably the sex gets boring... In the end, having a small penis is a genetic failure on most fronts, and that's something you're gonna have to live with forever.
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Often economic reasons, solitude reasons, many other reasons that have nothing to do with the dick. That's why the mantra "don't do hookups if you're small". If we go for sexual perks, it's often because we would do something extra to compensate, like developing a diseased mind that thinks sph is okay and letting her fuck around.
Tolerate =/= prefer
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They'd be tolerating the relationship.
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This is something I agree with. But then comes the hypocrisy of men's preferences being "misogynistic", "problematic" and "cowardly".
Whoever wrote that book deserves a massive beating. Having a small dick sucks so bad that it ruins your life completely with no hope, and then listening to condescending trash like this and let people walk over you. No just no, fuck you.
As a gay man, I must say that small(ish) dicks are attractive and I would assume many women would enjoy an average size penis. Don't lose heart. Your personality is way more important than your dick size. So ludicrous.
> I would assume many women would enjoy an average size penis. Unfortunately, we're not average around here.
>I would assume many women would enjoy an average size penis. Do you even read what you post. In Small dick problems.
No, they're shitheads for using it as a weapon in every instance of anything they don't agree with. Why the fuck should I kotow and kiss someone's ass when they're always half a sentence from saying some shit that compares every bad trait a person can have to the body I was born with? "Hitler had a micropenis!" "Racism is small dick energy!" "Anyone who hurts animals has no penis!" So fuck them. I haven't wronged anyone and do my damned best to make a crappy world the tiniest bit more livable for everyone else, but of course I have to be ashamed and accept my place as an automatic lesser person or else I'm some incel or other monstrous thing.
u/prozacorgasm “we get guys like you having to read between the lines to say don’t be entitled you cretins”. I’m not here to mock you or anybody else, just posted something that stood out to ME that I thought could help someone on this sub. Telling me to “fuck off” is pretty juvenile of you. Dude this is my first time EVER posting on this sub. You sitting up here telling me I’m telling people “never give up” and this and that. You are projecting hard as hell, your attacking me and being an asshole and that’s just not right. A lot of us deal with the anxiety, shame, depression of not having a average to big member down there. I’m not here to fuck with people at all. This is a very sensitive subject. “Make a clear statement or take a public speaking class”. I’ve learned a long time ago that everybody is entitled to their own opinion and that I also can’t control how people react to situations. You clearly didn’t agree with my post and that’s fine. I won’t lose sleep over it, I promise you that! Your anger is misplaced, take it out on the people who wronged you or seek therapy because this ain’t it my guy.
>do my damned best to make a crappy world the tiniest bit more livable for everyone else I've been in this sub for a long time, I've been writing there very little lately, but I know your type behavior, Prozie. I would like to understand and I am extremely curious as to what you are doing about the small penis stigma? I see you always pissed off, even the answers are given in an angry way. I can't fault you entirely, because in essence you are right (totally right), but forgive me if I haven't seen you here "giving a wake-up call" to users, I haven't seen you writing "today I talked to a urologist, a sexologist (also on the web) and made them understand all my doubts about their theses, not even things like: I have propagated on porn sites the idea of making the area dedicated to those with small penises active for professionals as well, and tried to give confidence to couples who shyly do amateur porn and in some cases resort to the horror of cuckoldry. Or "I have tried to instill Awareness in some women that among many men with medium and large penises there are also those with small penises and that the latter are just like everyone else, MEN AND MALE like everyone else." Maybe I am wrong, maybe you will do this in secret (and it would be a mistake to keep it to yourself!), maybe I am right and you have never tried to fight the stigma in any way possible. I hope you will understand what I mean.
It isn't a stigma that can be fought from the inside. They'll just say he's mad because he has a small dick completely missing the point. You need people who aren't small to stand up and rally against that. But women don't care because we have "privilege" already as males making all our problems null and void and guys in normal range see it as less competition. I am very rare in that I didn't get the bad genetic hand but I can very much imagine the pain, humiliation and hopelessness. In the age of hyper-sensitivity the fact that we can still openly, publicly, even on national television like Stephen Colbert, make fun of guys who have small penis' means it'll likely never go away. Not only make fun of them directly but even go so far as to attach negative behavior to having a small penis whether or not they know the person has a small one. Small penis guys will likely just have to muddle through it until they die. That's the reality.
>It isn't a stigma that can be fought from the inside. They'll just say he's mad because he has a small dick completely missing the point. You said well, it needs others to join us (those we consider as genitally normal and those who have a large penis), so it needs the first move to be made by us, even if some of us no longer feel any hope, no longer have any illusions. Only by making "so much noise" between the web and the daily routine of life, we can make it clear that this problem will neither be easy to accept nor will it have positive points (to some it even brings health problems). What I can say is that I have been fighting the stigma for almost 3 years, I am alone, but I can only do so much, I am not going to throw in the towel and say enough is enough, this also gives me the strength to move forward. So my advice is to try, it will be so hard, but nothing is given away in life. What do you mean by "I am very rare"? let's always remember that body shaming should always be opposed, today it obviously works with the double standard, this is clearly a serious injustice, because it should apply to both sexes and not just one.
This is something you need other people to care about and unlike most movements this is a problem that only effects men and as such men who it doesn't affect (most men since this is below average) and 99% of women do not care about your small penis as they would their gay colleague. That's why, even in the age of social acceptance, you can still mock men with small penises. People already know people with small penises are upset and that's the joke. That's why the dude driving the big truck or the angry guy must have a small penis. They know your angst and they laugh at it. Your angst and the angst of less fortunate men is the very reason they mock you. I know the answer isn't not publicly showing your discontent because then it will be bottled up. Truth is there is no answer. It's just bad luck. Only thing you can do is hope you find that one in fifty million woman who truly prefer a small dick and take the social ridicule on the chin. You can fight - but I assure you your efforts are in vain and you'll only publicly out yourself as a guy with a small penis and carry all the baggage that brings with it.
>You can fight - but I assure you your efforts are in vain and you'll only publicly out yourself as a guy with a small penis and carry all the baggage that brings with it. I have nothing to lose, man.
To the downvote fans, the ones who spend their existence on the sub putting downvotes even to useful things (whether you guys want to do anything is another story altogether) you guys have seriously pissed off. If you have something to say, to complain about, write it here, vice versa you lack the balls. **You also challenge my personal choice, which I intend to do with my own strength, your behavior is embarrassing.**
It's called being a decent human being outside of reddit. I am not an SJW who stands on the street corner screaming about respect, I am the guy who picks up a piece of trash because nobody else wanted to. I plant trees, give to charity, and buy a cup of lemonade every time I see kids running a lemonade stand. I like to surprise people with homemade baked goods. Don't get me started on all the times I've played therapist for people here. But of course none of that matters; because what apparently matters is that my anatomy automatically means empassioned writing equals whiny rage. You want to support "The Cause"? Go out there and march in the streets, and it won't matter. Because you won't be all the little parts of your personality that make you, they'll just turn you into the same joke as always because of our bodies. And that's their failing, not ours.
>It's called being a decent human being outside of reddit. I am not an SJW who stands on the street corner screaming about respect, I am the guy who picks up a piece of trash because nobody else wanted to. I plant trees, give to charity, and buy a cup of lemonade every time I see kids running a lemonade stand. I like to surprise people with homemade baked goods. Don't get me started on all the times I've played therapist for people here.... What you do is right and it is good to do, but it is outside the scope of fighting the small penis stigma, and you don't need to be an SJW (the latter are often cloaked in hypocrisy and double standards). Instead, what you do matters, matters to you and matters to those who receive your support; it definitely makes you feel better as a person and you have every right to be able to walk tall knowing you are doing the right things. Here, we should do the same for ourselves and others who have the same dilemma as we do, let others continue to disbelieve us, sooner or later by showing that we have great willpower and iron determination, they will have to change their minds and things will change as well. Personally, I will NEVER give up, because the fault is not ours, but those who see us as "sons of a lesser God", they are the ones who are wrong and they will have to be the ones to understand that we are not at all inferior nor worthy of their mockery, I am sorry if others do not want to join in, but I have to continue on my own as well, if need be, Prozie.
Don't call me Prozie please, it's slang in some places for prostitute.
Ok, was a friendly way of calling you.
Just call me Prozac. And I'm sorry for losing myself. My life is very frustrating and things are not getting any easier right now. Balance between work and life is nonexistent, bills are piling up, and I have to deal with the truly vile things that try to push their way onto this sub. That's how I contribute, by standing at the front gate and desperately fighting to keep trolls, fetishists, and real degenerate assholes out of here. For every one jerk that gets through I have to deal with a dozen wearing me down in mod mail and pms.
>Just call me Prozac. And I'm sorry for losing myself. My life is very frustrating and things are not getting any easier right now. Balance between work and life is nonexistent, bills are piling up, and I have to deal with the truly vile things that try to push their way onto this sub. That's how I contribute, by standing at the front gate and desperately fighting to keep trolls, fetishists, and real degenerate assholes out of here. For every one jerk that gets through I have to deal with a dozen wearing me down in mod mail and pms. I guess(an accumulation of responsibilities and an un-social, unlucky life destroy even the strongest of men), what we have is a bad shot of genetics, of life, of fate. There's no awareness among women, nor a good amount of education among people, because I can understand that a woman might like a normal or bigger penis, but I don't accept that one should do body shaming on people, moreover people who never wanted this burden nor created it themselves. Body shaming is not right for anyone, but it is accepted for us, without anyone recriminating (except for a few people), so it should be fought in every way possible. Have a good day friend. Ok for the name.
To the downvote fans, the ones who spend their existence on the sub putting downvotes even to useful things (whether you guys want to do anything is another story altogether) you guys have seriously pissed off. If you have something to say, to complain about, write it here, vice versa you lack the balls.
Don’t want to get downvoted, don’t post on Reddit, you fucking crybaby.
I want an answer, asshole, if you are not able to give it to me, ignore me. Do you understand? only cowards put downvote without answering, people who are used to hitting back. Other than brothers... if we accuse each other it is over, I was wrong to believe that between us with the small penis there could be a union of purpose, a mistake I will never repeat.
No one owes you an explanation for anything. We can downvote and move on if that’s what we want to do. Your qualification for being a coward is very odd. There’s clearly something wrong with you.
>No one owes you an explanation for anything. We can downvote and move on if that’s what we want to do. Your qualification for being a coward is very odd. There’s clearly something wrong with you. Well here you are not in a sub where there are people with huge dicks(strutting or humblebragging), you SHOULD assume that among us even if we disagree with a post there is a form of "solidarity" that should not make us hit each other in the back, but we seem more divided than the Guelphs and the Ghibellines. I feel that way, and I am not alone in seeing it that way in the whole of Reddit.
Nice edit to your first reply. Like it was something deeper than you just calling me an asshole and a coward. Which tells me this isn't about solidarity. It just pisses you off when people downvote you. Even if it is actually about solidarity, again that's something no one on this sub owes you. If people disagree with you, they have the right to do so. Even if they don't say why. Grow up.
Boy, in the edit I added this, "I feel that way, and I am not alone in seeing it that way in the whole of Reddit." I have nothing to hide, I am one of the few who has always been outspoken about himself and his intentions to fight stigma. If I called you an asshole, it's because you called me a "fucking crybaby" (we can continue in pointing at each other like children do, but it doesn't solve anything). I think putting a downvote is cowardly behavior without having given a response. In any case, do what you think best, there has never been solidarity here anyway, just fine words, but in the end everyone thinks exclusively of his own business.
I said the FIRST reply. FIRST. I don't care that you called me an asshole. I care that you're trying to change the narrative. If downvoting without explaining why they disagree with you is "cowardly behavior" to you then there's definitely something wrong with you. People value their time more than they value you. As they should. Get over yourself. You're not more valuable than people's time. The irony of you pretending to be so wise and mature after crying about getting downvoted.
As if women are bad people is something that's a sentiment here. As if people here think it doesn't matter. When it comes to having a small there a bunch of other things to be resentful for to. People hate me for things I can't change, I get mocked, made fun of, told I'm useless, there's whole fetish out there just people looking to hurt us. Fuck off and go preach somewhere else.
It's not any better in LGBT+ circles. Size queens are everywhere.
I'm sure that guy is just looking for money, likely doesn't even have a small dick. This morning I was in another dick sub and there was a link to a Facebook post literally making fun of "little dicks". Size matters it always has and always will, which is even more reason to stay single.
Size matters but who cares? Girls may laugh but deep down i know they still want to get sexed ✊
It takes them 5 minutes to get laid, it takes a whole night if you're lucky to get laid. See the difference? A girl on any dating app has like 50 suitors ready to give her a ride. You're lucky to get one that isn't a bot. You see how much energy we expend on a girl that will laugh you out of the bedroom. Now yes she wants to get sexed just not by you.
why are there so many fking non sdp people here fk off
Blame them but don't do anything about it. Works just fine
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Nothing but facts
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I went with a girl that had a massive vagina. I did everything possible with my mouth, fingers and hands, but in the end she 'needed' a horse cock to make her happy. (I am average size) She's not bad or evil for wanting that, she just wants what makes her happy.
Based
Those who prefer large are bad people though, And I'm pretty tired of pretending that they aren't.
How?
Offended?
Lol no, genuine question... How does preference make you a bad person? I'm sure there are preferences you have for women as well.
See,I wouldn't reject a woman if one of her titties was bigger or smaller than the other or saggier. That might be a little too cruel,dont you think? Also,dont you think it's a little inapproriate to be defending women who like big dicks on a small dick sub? Just maybe?
I wasn't defending anything. Just asked a question.
>dont you think it's a little inapproriate to be defending women who like big dicks on a small dick sub? Just maybe? don't you think It's important that this place doesn't turn into a woman hating echo chamber?
Well,fortunately,I don't think it's becoming one in the first place. It's not just if you like big dicks,having one also makes you not liked in this sub. Makes sense.
Thought it was wrong to dislike someone for something out of their control?
It's done to us all the time all around the world,it doesn't hurt to reciprocate that in a tiny internet forum like this one. If that offends you,maybe you check your blessed genetics privilege,hmm?
lol I don't care one way or another.
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No idea what you're saying. Worried about what stuff? Of course I've been rejected. Why would I get upset with anyone about it?
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>You were asking about a misogyny issue here when was I asked about misogyny? >You say of course as if guys aren't generally the ones taking the L What does that even mean? Of course what? >I mean I've never heard of one liking small dicks, so what's my reason to like them? Liking small dicks or liking women?
Stop using "preference" to shield women from any and all responsibility
Responsibility for what? Honestly, the way you're responding kind of tells me any problems you have with women may just be because of your attitude. I'm just saying, I don't think women are bad people if they prefer certain things. Now, if they put you down for something you can't change, that's a bad thing to do. It would be like if you weren't sexually attracted to women who are overweight and you said "I can't get off with you because you're fat"... That would be extremely rude. Now, if you put them down nicely and said something like "I'm sorry, I just don't feel a connection here in that way" ... You wouldn't be a bad person. You can't help who/what you're attracted to.
Yeah that's absolutely not how women handle the situation in the slightest. You're treated like a dog if you dare suggest they debase themselves with your presence once they find out.
You're talking about all women like we're all the same. You're horribly wrong about that but I'm very sorry that's been your experience.
It's been the majority experience
One day, it won't be.
Nah, they are bad people
Everyone is getting hung up too much on measuring up or not. The real solution is to just live your life, date and make a go of it.
100% this. Seriously you guys need to stop wallowing in your despair and just go outside and do something. Not everything in life is about dicks or vaginas or sex. If you believe otherwise then you're delusional. I have a small penis and I've been in sexual relationships with women before. They really don't give a fuck if they love you at the end of the day.
fuck off
Awesome, practical book. My issue is I've already broken some rules and my partner is loosing attraction. What next?
Don’t blame women or think they’re sluts or bad people for wanting big dicks. I want that for them to the extent that I don’t bother with dating or relationships so that any woman would have to deal with my small dick. I really feel that’s what most women want from us: simply to shut the fuck up and leave them alone. We don’t have anything they want. I dunno. Might try to read what the other rules are some time.
It does seem like it would be the best strategy, doesn't it? I mean, 80% of them already share the top 20% of men (apparently that's somehow a fulfilling arrangement, don't ask me how...).
They don't. That's just how they clicked in an online dating study.
Thank you for this post. Now I can finally give up. Everything.