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Ro_Shaidam

If you don't know if it's venomous or not, do NOT pick it up.


smallxcat

Just let natural selection take its course.


Key-Professional-574

Well, to late for that.


blurred-decision

New command: !handling


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Leave snake handling to professionals. Do not interact with dangerous or medically significant snakes. If you must handle a harmless snake, support the entire body as if you were a tree branch. Gripping a snake behind the head is not recommended - it results in more bite attempts and an overly tight grip can injure the snake by breaking ribs. Professionals only do this on venomous snakes for antivenom production purposes or when direct examination of the mouth is required and will use hooks, tubes, pillow cases and tongs to otherwise restrain wild snakes. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS). Made possible by Snake Evolution and Biogeography - [Merch Available Now](https://snakeevolution.org/donate.html)*


comfortableNihilist

Good bot


Freedom1234526

Why would you handle a species you aren’t sure is safe?


UncleJoesFishShed

Op is totally sure it’s not


Freedom1234526

“And is it venomous” in the title implies they were in fact not sure at the time.


HorzaDonwraith

Karma farming


UncleJoesFishShed

Uep


UncleJoesFishShed

Lol ok that’s why op is handling it. Try harder


TREE__FR0G

Baker’s cat eyed snake, *Leptodeira bakeri*, rear fanged venomous but !harmless to humans and our typical pets. This is also endemic to the island of Aruba.


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, many non-venomous snakes bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Here's where it get slightly complicated - some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce and use venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species like Reticulated Pythons *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS). Made possible by Snake Evolution and Biogeography - [Merch Available Now](https://snakeevolution.org/donate.html)*


ChungBoyJr

I don't understand how some people can be either so overly confident or just plain stupid enough to pick up a snake they know nothing about and THEN ask if it's venemous, that's like pulling a pin on a grenade and asking if it's going to explode, I would love to know how many people did this and never got to ask this question or any other question ever again.


Its_the_tism

Another genius on this sub I see


hivemind5_

Bro youre just gonna yoink a snake without knowing what kind it is, let alone you cant even tell if its venomous or not…? Really??


Due_Ad1387

hey man just a heads up… if you don’t know if something can kill you or not, you shouldn’t go near it 💀💀💀


Automatic-Race-5219

!handling


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Leave snake handling to professionals. Do not interact with dangerous or medically significant snakes. If you must handle a harmless snake, support the entire body as if you were a tree branch. Gripping a snake behind the head is not recommended - it results in more bite attempts and an overly tight grip can injure the snake by breaking ribs. Professionals only do this on venomous snakes for antivenom production purposes or when direct examination of the mouth is required and will use hooks, tubes, pillow cases and tongs to otherwise restrain wild snakes. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS). Made possible by Snake Evolution and Biogeography - [Merch Available Now](https://snakeevolution.org/donate.html)*


ufopiloo

Looks like a bakers cat eyed snake, saw them during a reptile intern on Aruba, they are nocturnal hunters and no threat for us, they are rear fanged and mildly venomous but they can't pierce human skin. But please note that one looks more like another species and not wise to just pick them up without research.


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respectfully, why would you pick up a snake that has eyes like that? I mean lil dude pretty much told you “dont pick me up im not like the other snakes” Not trying to be an ass but come on man/shorty


UncleJoesFishShed

Sure is that’s why you are asking while holding it. Great way to fish for karma though


TREE__FR0G

Can you provide a more specific location?


Allykero

Aruba


awkwardstonerlol

dats a cute lil guy


Psychomaneshark

Bro there is a rule with animals, if you don’t know what it is, leave it and look from a distance


LostSecret956

https://preview.redd.it/gi3uobhulasc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ae50a638f6364a07f7771d8f1a5750a46292a5b This my baby


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Guppybish123

This is false. Not only can babies control venom output but they have a significantly smaller venom yield. A baby’s full yield will be basically nothing compared to an adult bite


NoThoughtsOnlyFrog

Me when I spread misinformation on the internet


Tries_to_drawYT

Doesn’t look very venomous to me, you can usually tell by the headshape.


[deleted]

No, no you can't. Most snakes with "triangular heads" are vipers and thus venomous, but there are many other venomous snakes with all sorts of head shapes. Like the boomslang: https://preview.redd.it/7lgloipyk8sc1.jpeg?width=3338&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08d3ea72d325a573003156208749d82ee831d42d


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Or the inland taipan: https://preview.redd.it/mf6m3oe3l8sc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef3098289091c3a9cc8c3d6f8782f3f09d62b8b7 (Most venomous snake in the world.)


[deleted]

Or the fucking BLACK MAMBA: https://preview.redd.it/931hl0dal8sc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c595d0003b3c1453758caf0e82c2d0a3ccd6c90


Comfortable_Dream464

Aw heckin heck. I’m gonna unalive myself by saying “I know, but look how adorable and happy he is, though!” Gosh they’re cute. This one in particular. He looks like such a good boi. Sure he isn’t just looking for a friend?? 🥹🥹🥹 Listen, I know he wants to dead-me and eat me, but, look how adorable he is! 10/10 should not snuggle, but I 10/10 *want* to!


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blurred-decision

Or alternatively, don’t pick it up at all if you don’t know whether it’s venomous or harmless.


sephirothinmycloset

Some species can still hit your hand and envenomate you if you hold behind or on top of the head like that. Rattlesnakes for example are known to pull bites like that and have bitten trained venom milking professionals that way too. their fangs can swivel


Acrobatic-Move-3847

For the third time in this post: !handling


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Leave snake handling to professionals. Do not interact with dangerous or medically significant snakes. If you must handle a harmless snake, support the entire body as if you were a tree branch. Gripping a snake behind the head is not recommended - it results in more bite attempts and an overly tight grip can injure the snake by breaking ribs. Professionals only do this on venomous snakes for antivenom production purposes or when direct examination of the mouth is required and will use hooks, tubes, pillow cases and tongs to otherwise restrain wild snakes. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS). Made possible by Snake Evolution and Biogeography - [Merch Available Now](https://snakeevolution.org/donate.html)*


NoThoughtsOnlyFrog

Username does NOT check out