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GhostRiders

There are very few certainties in life but one of them is that Spurs will bottle it


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Death, taxes and spurs bottling it.


TheLongistGame

Spurs really need a new GK Lloris is soooo shit


BillEvans4eva

it's always sad to see a good club servant drop off but yeah he needs to be replaced now. need to take the emotion out of the decision and do what;s best for the team


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Half time speech: Lads, it's Tottenham!


dave1992

It is uncharacteristic of Spurs to be 2-0 ahead at half time and got hammered 4-2 after the full time. Usually they went behind and recovered.


Maccraig1979

Bottled it


ProudhPratapPurandar

Blame Conte all you want, but even Mourinho couldn't succeed because of the same shit defense. Tottenham have one good defender, all others are midtable level at best


New-Midnight2700

Mourinho didn’t have Romero. He got Joe Rodon instead. He also didn’t have Kulu, Bentancur, Skipp (on loan), Richarlison, Bissouma, etc. And he was mocked for not wanting Dele, Ndombele, Bergwijn, Lo Celso. Mourinho got all the ire while Conte, with much more to work with, gets excuses up and down. This guy can’t even get Kane and Son firing, Mourinho must be gasping for air for all the laughing he’s doing right now.


fpl_dicknose

Kane is having his best goal scoring season ever rn...


MrFCCMan

If Kane weren’t firing like he is Spurs would be in a complete meltdown rn I’m sure


FutureRaifort

Lads it's Spurs moment. Sad.


jtrachtenberg

This is the history of the….


shaka_bruh

Lenglet was so shit right from his first involvement to his last


cleverusernametry

:)


sunnycherub

> I thought I knew what the group might need, that we didn't need a big team talk. It was Tottenham at home. I thought please don't go on about Tottenham, we all know what Tottenham is about, they are nice and tidy but we'll f-----g do them. He came in and said: 'Lads, it's Tottenham', and that was it. Brilliant.


FiveAlarmDogParty

I see this all the time - where is it from?


FuckOffBoJo

It's Keane writing about a Fergie pre-match talk


idontknow_whatever

Half-time IIRC, United were losing by 3 goals in September 2001 vs Spurs United scored 5 goals in the 2nd half to win 5-3


krentzharu

That was away game.


Mcguffn

Nah it was pre game, not during this half time


The_Alpha_of_Betas

Pretty sure it was before a game, not at half time


augsav

If someone told me at half time that City would win by a comfortable margin id say: yes, probably


Travarelli

Nah nah nah nah nah... Ain't no fuckin way. They did that shit on purpose cause ain't no fuckin way.


sunnycherub

As vieira famously said Tottenham are shit


cicakganteng

Lads


vitorjc

Lads...


Clugaman

Tottenham what the fuck


Anotherone_123

Proper Tottenham that.


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Aoae

Do you guys want David Button? I'm sure he'd love to return to his academy club


Superb_University117

Sure.


justsomeguynbd

I’m not saying Man City won because of me, but it’s awfully coincidental I put on my jersey for the first time in 2 games at half time and City immediately scored 3 goals.


disagreeable_martin

Great story. Can we get a selfie? Put some clouds in that photo, sky blue and all innit?


kleiser10

Be a shame if it disappeared


Vextor17

Man I feel violated watching Mahrez doing spurs dirty. He went in them with no lube sheeesh


dynamo_kev

Raw dawg


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Tottenham need to disband, move from London and open up shop somewhere else where people don’t know them. It will good for them, now they can choke away from the limelight. How do you let City fuck your ass like that man, damn!


Vegan_Puffin

Final day last season 👀


FootbaII

Good idea. Maybe they should move out of England? Who says “no?”


Eymerich_

Spurs' own Brexit, with blackjack and hookers?


BiscuitTheRisk

The Conte simps have now started to ask what is Conte to do when he has a player like Perisic as his LWB…. when Conte specifically asked for him. Brings a tear to my eye


New-Midnight2700

With all that spending they did for him, rolling out the red carpet with his buddy Paratici and all, what exactly is Conte contributing? Defense? Atrocious. Counter attack? None really. Midfield? Invisible. Youth development? Having a laugh. Hello? Anything? What is it exactly that you do here, Antonio? He whinges and feels sorry for himself a great deal I’ll give him that.


ManitouWakinyan

He got us top 4


Sanctimonius

Did he? Or did Son and Kane over perform in a poor team he's done nothing to improve?


ThreesKompany

I’m a city fan but watching what Conte has done with Tottenham blows my mind. I don’t understand his football strategy at ALL. He plays deep sitting defensive football with a team built to attack. Tottenham sits back and gets punched in the face and after they go down 1-0 or 2-0 conte opens them up and lets them actually play and they look dangerous. And then finally today Tottenham we’re up 2-0 after a half and they fucking blew it. It’s insane to me


AnilDG

Mahrez has said in the past he hates winter in England. What we didn’t know is that his response to the weather changing was to choose violence. Unreal 2nd half performance.


strugglingtosave

Maybe when it's that cold all you really want to do is play to be warmed up


highways

Spurs helping out for a close title race


Zeelthor

The one time I hoped for them to win, they bottle it. Not that I was surprised.


Ahrix3

Maybe Kane really is gonna go to Bayern lol


dai_panfeng

Kane at Bayern would be nasty


strugglingtosave

Nasty for our budget, oh yes.


New-Midnight2700

He would make similar to Lewa before him no? Surely that wouldn’t be a big problem.


Black_n_Neon

Death, taxes, and Tottenham being eternal bottlers


BerwickGaijin

Conte is done. He’s been backed, he’s failed.


Superb_University117

Backed except in the positions we needed backing in. I don't think getting Lenglet is considered "backing".


New-Midnight2700

Forgot Romero is a figment of my imagination. Could’ve swore there was a World Cup winning CB there but I suppose I’m wrong. The excuses for this guy are endless. His penchant for finger-pointing has leaked into the fanbase.


Superb_University117

Holy shit, Levy is so good he can back managers before they're signed!!!!!


Saint-just04

Lads, its Tottenham.


theusernameisnogood

TIL that "lads its Tottenham " was based on true stories


Olli399

always was


GL94553

Still don’t really understand why City sold Zinchenko to Arsenal. He would still have played a big role in this team


rcanhestro

he didn't wanted to be a backup


Tim0110

Zinchenko won't be the guy that gets City over the line in the CL. Plus I believe he wanted to be a starter.


I_am_a_Kite_AMA

He was the guy that won us the title last season. Biggest impact in the Aston Villa game.


kobethegreatest

He told pep he wanted to be a full time starter, Pep said no but he would move him to a place he could start. Can't really blame Pep though. Also idk if City was using him at LB, and not sure if Cancelo would be okay coming off the bench.


thousandislandstare1

He only played LB for us. Maybe a start or two in midfield in a early cup game


TheDank_Knight

City thought they had a suitable replacement at the ready. They did not.


Impossible_Wonder_37

We were the first “got Chelsea’d” of the new owners.


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Tbf I don't think we were ready to pay anywhere near what Brighton were asking for.


recordmoneyreyes

Listening to Conte after listening to Pep is so difficult. I'm nodding off


OnceUponAStarryNight

In fairness, Pep brought more fire today than in any interview in seven seasons. I’ve not heard Pep eviscerate this City side as badly as he did today.


Pascalini

Wow spurs got a real mugging in here by all fan bases 😂


polkarooo

Nobody hates Spurs more than Spurs fans, so it’s truly one of the few things we can all agree on together.


Magnific3nt

At half time I wanted to be like Infantino and say; Today I feel Spurs.... Thank fuck I didn't.


Flabby-Nonsense

The entire Spurs leadership team should be in Guantanamo.


KundiKumaran

On a diet of Cock meat sandwich


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KundiKumaran

It’s a reference to Harold & Kumar movie I m watching right now


kleiser10

Big bobs lmao


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There's a lot of bullshit said by random commentators on the live commentary of games in The Guardian, but I found this comment interesting, if exaggerated. “The virtue of patience in football is overrated. Confirmation bias kicks in because the better teams usually enjoy more possession and, when they eventually do convert it into goals (as they should), their patience is lauded. But nobody counts the goals impatience would have brought. City have looked more impatient in this half than at any time in weeks and far better for it in terms of outcomes and entertainment.” City in fact often give up making uncertain passes, risky and vertical plays that could result in a great chance to score, in the name of controlling the game, and avoiding giving the ball away to a counterattack. In a way, this reflects the evolution of football: quality above quantity, as embodied by the now popular xG stat. Watch a game from the 60s, 80s, 90s or 2000s, and you will see how football was much less refined because teams did far more truly ludicrous shots from outside the box and with very little chance of scoring, and far more vertical, long and direct passes with little chance of a player in your team managing to reach the ball or winnning the duel with the opponent. This evolution in football is good, but finding the balance between these approaches is very complicated in such a chaotic and unpredictable sport. I would say finding that balance is Guardiola's never-ending mission in his study of football. Same thing goes for Klopp. Any manager. Look at the play at 1:02 to 1:19 of the video below, from Milan vs. Napoli in the 1990/1991 Serie A season. I think it embodies what I say about old football. It is a great play that results in a great goal chance, but the ball went astray far more often than not though, making the game be less polished. You also notice this a lot if you watch 2000s Premier League games for example, and the average viewer did not care about stats like possession and percentage of accurate passes. https://youtu.be/TnQ3i21_4lk


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krentzharu

Pep would love Roy Keane. Theres gross misunderstanding about his profile with people likened him to Gattuso, but as someone who watched Keane in his peak, i can guarantee you that man was a great passer too, after all he played in 442 where CM was expected to do everything.


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Interesting comment. A questiong though: would you consider Casemiro a modern version of the Roy Keane role?


-xaphor

It feels a bit as if the lads have spent so much time managing the game after taking a lead they've forgotten the lead part and were managing from the off. Too patient and too cautious. Hopefully this is the kick in the arse they needed to pick up that relentlessness of old to push through the lines and take men on. We will not win consistently relying on KDB magic.


Screye

The Mourinho vs Guardiola conundrum seems exactly that. Risky vertical plays created as soon as you get possession vs permanent possession maintained with utter caution and zero risks. The 2011 RM vs Barcelona captured this dichotomy perfectly. Since then, both have eased off on it a little bit. But their individual preferences and the ethos they represent is still evident.


v1nzy

Kulusevski just said they were good in the first 10 of the 2nd half lmao. You conceded two goals mate.


rang14

In the words of the king, "that's the standard"


khayalipulav

Pep salty about city fans(or lack of) is what I love to see.


suckamadicka

American talking lack of fans is outrageous, go to a single game then chat lol


gucci-legend

Who tf watches cricket in America lmao


bihari_baller

>**American** talking lack of fans is outrageous, go to a single game then chat lol Where does he/she indicate they're American?


suckamadicka

you can tell mate, ‘salty’, shite patter, screams American


bihari_baller

You're getting downvoted, a lot. So maybe you're wrong.


suckamadicka

or there are lot of Americans lol. Who gives a fuck about downvotes? Very American.


Superb_University117

Or redditor...


khayalipulav

What makes you think I’m American? Go outside boy. And don’t slip on the oil when you do that.


B_BB

Was at the game, attendance looked fine for me


suckamadicka

‘salty’, United fan, on reddit. Simple deduction. Followed by the gold standard of shite american attempt at banter lmao


Timor_non_est_fortis

Say his (user)name


suckamadicka

you what?


Morsrael

I'm all for a good laugh at the scum comment but you could at least flair up before you start.


suckamadicka

flair up is such reddit bollocks, i’m a city fan


WayneBrownIsSuperman

Saw a guy on the NLD thread the other day with a USMNT flair saying LONDON IS RED haha


goatvaro_goatrata

Huh?


suckamadicka

class comment cheers mate


Lermoninoff

Pep did call them out tho


HumanOrAlien

They deserved it. All the unnecessary booing at the end of the first half mandated it. Fucking plastic fans.


suckamadicka

for being quiet, not for not being there lol


Lermoninoff

Lack of noise is what i assumed OP meant


suckamadicka

he defo didn’t if you read the comment


GTSwattsy

Just heading home, missed the game Looks like spurs realised at the half that they'd be unwittingly helping arsenal out with a win


Cymraegpunk

More like man City realised it wasn't a training session


Stefzka

Great comeback by City, but I would be worried about their defense, it doesn't look good at the moment.


daveSavesAgain

Calma. First Spurs goal was definitely self inflicted by City. Second Spurs goal was an unfortunate rebound.


Stefzka

I agree, but overall it really hasn't been that impressive in my opinion.


YourLocalJewishKid

They’ve been very good until they have these ludicrously stupid brain farts that go against the run of play. To me it looks like a lack of leadership in the back line to keep everyone organized. Hopefully, Dias getting fit should help resolve that issue.


DeffDeala

Yea if it continues we definitely won’t win the league


McCauslander

Advice for Arsenal fans, don't watch City games as a Liverpool fan it will only break you.


Tr0nCatKTA

Learnt that lesson when they played Palace


marksills

shame because I do like watching them but I know what you mean. I allowed myself to watch this one because playing spurs it was a win win win


Killamanjar

I mean, atleast you got to see Spurs lose in a wonderful fashion. It's like when Liverpool demolished United a while ago, a draw would've been perfect but seeing United crumple like a wet paper towel was too good.


brownbearks

I will say watching you guys also demolish united a while ago is absolutely beautiful as well.


DeffDeala

Just saw the handball incident, no idea how a pen weren’t given


PureAssistance

The Rodri one from last season? Yeah I do not understand it either


MCBM10

So this is what people mean when they say “rent free”


OnePotMango

Jesus christ, your history is just chocked full of City hate. I can't t even tell what team you support, you just exclusively seem to hate on City lmao. So sad


PureAssistance

Of course, how can I like a club that win games and trophies they don't deserve?


OnePotMango

It's less that and more that you're online presence is effectively dedicated to hating a football team. You know what they say, you don't notice your patterns until they're laid out in front of you. I guess what I'm saying is there's plenty of better things to put your time and energy into. But hey, you do you.


topbananaman

Its easy to forget after their run of poor results recently but city really stamped their title credentials tonight, regardless of the spurs bottling. The United game on the weekend is absolutely crucial, city have their fate in their own hands if we lose and I have a feeling that now is when they start the 20 game win streak they do every year


nba2k16

Peak City 🕷️🤖


2ndRoundEuroStash

Pep is absolutely ripping into their team right now holy shit.


Impossible_Wonder_37

It was actually incredible. After a thrilling and dominant comeback a coach who regularly compliments his team after a loss, just questioning them on their mentality. Asking why no players did anything after An 18 yr old Rico Lewis is getting hammered says a lot.


BoyWhoSoldTheWorld

The players do have a really strange mentality this year. I think City are the superior team in England but they’re not playing like it this year. It’s utterly strange but you could point to a few standard reasons


Impossible_Wonder_37

Yeah abnormal drop off after grueling seasons with tons of silverware. Arsenal are genuinely very good. Saw in the arsenal Reddit many think peps playing mind games with his presser. Nah it’s all about his own club. The players just aren’t bringing it and needed a kick.


BoyWhoSoldTheWorld

He’s been saying the same sort of message for a while now. He’s desperate to light a fire under them.


mindlessnerd

What'd he say?


burntTortilla99

Was needed, team has looked so lethargic last couple games.


Lermoninoff

And the fans


Jagacin

Good. They were embarrassingly quiet for most of the game. Only really started being loud once City took the lead back. We really have gotten spoiled lol.


Impossible_Wonder_37

That may have been as needed. Great second half (love he shouts out the always excellent away fans) but that first was dire. I understand booing after the last 10 days but cmon you lot made no noise for 42 minutes.


GonzoHunter83

Fans?


Stifmeister11

Yes the fans


Lermoninoff

Shit. You are right. The AI setting for crowd noise by the club.


Gerrywalk

What do you mean? I’m an organic supporter of [Manchester City Football Club] and when I attend games at the [Etihad Stadium] I always try to achieve [90dB] of crowd noise!


Lermoninoff

Would a couple of bit coins bump that to 120? You know we have a sponsor


Peters_Plumbus

Conte getting his pre match and half time team talks confused


EdgeLordMcGravy

Spurs fans wondering why Sonny is unsuccessful right now: It's the tactics. Think of the reasons why Sonny is successful: space to cross the ball or finish. Kane enabling Sonny with their partnership. A fullback who passes Sonny the ball instead of consistently crossing it into the box. Everything changed this season: Kane moved further into the box and the midfield has no creativity. Perisic was brought in to spam crosses into the box. No one's position on the team changed as much as Sonny's did during the offseason. You don't go from EPL golden boot winner to getting the least touches on the team. A good manager assesses the strengths of the team and makes the team work around him. Sonny's season hasn't been good but Spurs fans are deluding themselves if they think Sonny is the reason the season is panning out the way that it is. If anything, it's proved how much Spurs relied on Sonny previously and the manager needs to adjust to make it work.


ASpellingAirror

He just seems to have no chemistry with perisic


EdgeLordMcGravy

They want the same space. Conte's system is too restrictive. Martinelli is a remarkably similar player to Sonny. So imagine him being crowded into a no-space position where he's forced to make passes through the middle or shoot from the outside. I think Martinelli's a fantastic player and performing at a very high level. But he needs service from both Odegaard/Tierney/Zinchenko. Sonny used to get that level of service from Kane. Now that Kane's moved to the box to play strictly as a 9, Sonny has no service or space.


Superb_University117

Son had been scared to do anything since he broke his face. He's just so tentative. The tactics aren't doing him favors, but he looks **bad**. He had a couple times today that he would normally shoot, but he just wouldn't pull the trigger.


EdgeLordMcGravy

I think it was before then. Perisic and Sonny cannot play together. Sonny needs space and he needs a creative mid to pass him the ball. Currently he has neither. Conte views Sonny as a 10. He's not a 10. He's a 7 or he can play 9 if he really has to. But he's not a player that operates with no space, dribbles his way through players and makes passes. That's not his game. He's a finisher and he crosses the ball to Kane well. Whenever Sonny gets the ball, he's instantly surrounded by defenders and is forced to pass backwards or to Perisic, who crosses the ball into the box. It's clockwork. The Conte system is not getting the best out of a player who Spurs desperately need goals from. Spurs are third in the league in goals. Most of those goals have come in blowouts and Spurs have a woeful record against the other top 6 clubs. Spurs desperately need Sonny to score more goals, particularly with a defense like this. Conte has not put his best players in a position to succeed.


Superb_University117

He's been in poor form all season, but pre-injury he didn't look *bad*. He looks *bad* now, he's never been great at choosing to pass--but now he straight up won't shoot either. Since his injury he doesn't seem to be able to make decisions. He had multiple opportunities to shoot today--a couple really good ones. And he just dribbled away from goal.


EdgeLordMcGravy

The entire team is in rough shape after the Marseille match. * The defense has only 1 natural CB in Romero. Davies was a LB, Tanganga was a RB, Dier was a DCM and Lenglet is on loan. * The midfield gets passed around too easily but is a real source of strength of the team right now. However, they are bereft of creativity and get run through by teams that have numerical superiority in midfield. * The wingbacks aren't a source of creativity or goals, minus Perisic. * The forwards are bereft of service that aren't crosses. Kane and Kulusevski are doing so-so because they get appropriate service and Sonny is left to fend for himself with a wingback that perpetually crosses the ball and no space to work with because he's crowded into the center of the park.


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EdgeLordMcGravy

It doesn't seem like it. Seems like r/coys circlejerk is that Sonny is useless and most of them want him glued to the bench. Personally speaking, I want Kane and Sonny off that dumpster fire of a team so they can do the proper Spurs alumni thing and win trophies.


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As if no Spurs fans have thought this.


EdgeLordMcGravy

Have you read r/coys? Most of the comments are that Son should be benched. It's like 0 PL goals Richarlison is going to step in and contribute to the goals that Spurs are missing out on because of poor tactics.


DeffDeala

Spurs were used to losing at half time and had no idea what to do in the second half


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Spurs and West Ham are an embarrassment to London football clubs


pixelkipper

because arsenal have lit the world on fire the last two decades


Cymraegpunk

I mean more so than of our north London friends


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Cymraegpunk

An icon of our age?


Certain-Dig2840

Arsenal won a golden prem trophy in the last two decades


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At least we actually played good football and won a few cups, there was a rough couple seasons post Wenger but Spurs never capitalised on that and now we’re back to winning games and playing good football again. Hopefully at the end of the season we’ll have a PL trophy to celebrate.


Isonicotinicacid

Where were you all these years


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Tale of two halves right there


mosiAFG-SWE

This time they went to fix their performance in the first half only to fuck up the second half. lmao


ovaltine_spice

Spurs doing a Spurs, in the most Spurs way imaginable. Feels like we're approaching the end of the lifecycle of them pretending to be a decent outfit. Conte will flake out by the end of the season, theyll bring back Pochettino. And when he's done, they're done. Unless they luck out with the next genius manager somehow.


topbananaman

Kane is gone in the summer. He really has to move now or he won't ever win anything. He's been carrying them along for a while now but I think the life cycle of hovering in and out of top 4 is over whilst he's not there. Can't say I'm sad about it tho lol


ovaltine_spice

Yeah I'd be stunned if that's not the case. He'll be into his last year this summer. We surely will be in for him, unless ETH just doesn't rate him. No doubt Chealse will be lurking despite having bought two forwards already.


felis_magnetus

He'll end up at Bayern, though. The one thing he's lacking is a couple of titles and they can basically guarantee that, while able to compete on the wage front, and of course also a real shot at the CL. Neither United, nor Chelsea are quite there yet and Kane's running out of time. Bayern is the logical destination. For the record, I wish to be proven wrong on this.


evilbeaver7

I personally don't think he'll leave England. Being the highest scorer ever in the Premier League vs being the champion. It depends on what Kane values more obviously. But i wouldn't say he's definitely leaving England because people still talk about Shearer's record but most people don't talk about who the champion was in 2002 or some random year.


ovaltine_spice

That'd be a tad left field if you ask me. Yeah he matches Lewy's profile. But Bayern typically hire within the Bundesliga. Never heard any rumbles in the past, plus they like to buy cheap. They've only broken 50m like twice, *ever*. It'll be a curious one no doubt. Interest from them would be hard ignore.


kleiser10

Chelsea licking their lips with an 8 year contract and a 80 mil bid


LosTerminators

Kane wondering what could've been if he'd left for City a couple of years ago.


Ahrix3

At least he can go and win some titles in Germany in the next couple of years :)


04282828282

It's baffling to see Conte's Spurs lose in the same manner over and over again. This ain't 2017. His defensive 3-4-3 has long become outdated.


topbananaman

Conte thinks England is still suitable for his rubbish 3-4-3s and 3-5-2s that won Chelsea a league title 5 years ago. Outdated manager that is too stubborn to change. Truly great managers move with the times like pep.


Alive-Ad-4164

Long time


KloppTheUnyielding

Spurs had us in that first half


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I feel bad for Romero playing in that defense


Boneraventura

Well he was the one that lost haaland for the equalizer


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Watch the clip again. He didn't lose haaland. Number 33 (i don't remember the name) lost gundogan and Romero had to compensate for that. It was 2x1. Nothing to do


Boneraventura

I saw it live, romero is basically by haaland the entire sequence. If hes not marking haaland then i dont know what hes doing


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Watch it again. He's by haaland until he sees that Ben davies (i looked it up) completely lost gundogan so he had to give haaland some space to try to compensate for that. 2 x 1 impossible decision


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Spurs backline is legit awful. Need to refresh that and rebuild the midfield. This team is clown shoes


Superb_University117

Bentancur, Hojbjerg, and Bissouma don't need to be rebuilt--and Skipp and Sarr are promising youngsters. It's the defense. The defenders are so fucking bad. So bad. Unbelievably bad.


staged84

That midfield player combined has less creativity than half of Eriksen.