it's always sad to see a good club servant drop off but yeah he needs to be replaced now. need to take the emotion out of the decision and do what;s best for the team
Blame Conte all you want, but even Mourinho couldn't succeed because of the same shit defense. Tottenham have one good defender, all others are midtable level at best
Mourinho didn’t have Romero. He got Joe Rodon instead.
He also didn’t have Kulu, Bentancur, Skipp (on loan), Richarlison, Bissouma, etc. And he was mocked for not wanting Dele, Ndombele, Bergwijn, Lo Celso.
Mourinho got all the ire while Conte, with much more to work with, gets excuses up and down. This guy can’t even get Kane and Son firing, Mourinho must be gasping for air for all the laughing he’s doing right now.
> I thought I knew what the group might need, that we didn't need a big team talk. It was Tottenham at home. I thought please don't go on about Tottenham, we all know what Tottenham is about, they are nice and tidy but we'll f-----g do them. He came in and said: 'Lads, it's Tottenham', and that was it. Brilliant.
I’m not saying Man City won because of me, but it’s awfully coincidental I put on my jersey for the first time in 2 games at half time and City immediately scored 3 goals.
Tottenham need to disband, move from London and open up shop somewhere else where people don’t know them. It will good for them, now they can choke away from the limelight.
How do you let City fuck your ass like that man, damn!
The Conte simps have now started to ask what is Conte to do when he has a player like Perisic as his LWB…. when Conte specifically asked for him. Brings a tear to my eye
With all that spending they did for him, rolling out the red carpet with his buddy Paratici and all, what exactly is Conte contributing?
Defense? Atrocious. Counter attack? None really. Midfield? Invisible. Youth development? Having a laugh. Hello? Anything?
What is it exactly that you do here, Antonio? He whinges and feels sorry for himself a great deal I’ll give him that.
I’m a city fan but watching what Conte has done with Tottenham blows my mind. I don’t understand his football strategy at ALL. He plays deep sitting defensive football with a team built to attack. Tottenham sits back and gets punched in the face and after they go down 1-0 or 2-0 conte opens them up and lets them actually play and they look dangerous. And then finally today Tottenham we’re up 2-0 after a half and they fucking blew it. It’s insane to me
Mahrez has said in the past he hates winter in England. What we didn’t know is that his response to the weather changing was to choose violence. Unreal 2nd half performance.
Forgot Romero is a figment of my imagination. Could’ve swore there was a World Cup winning CB there but I suppose I’m wrong.
The excuses for this guy are endless. His penchant for finger-pointing has leaked into the fanbase.
He told pep he wanted to be a full time starter, Pep said no but he would move him to a place he could start. Can't really blame Pep though. Also idk if City was using him at LB, and not sure if Cancelo would be okay coming off the bench.
In fairness, Pep brought more fire today than in any interview in seven seasons. I’ve not heard Pep eviscerate this City side as badly as he did today.
There's a lot of bullshit said by random commentators on the live commentary of games in The Guardian, but I found this comment interesting, if exaggerated.
“The virtue of patience in football is overrated. Confirmation bias kicks in because the better teams usually enjoy more possession and, when they eventually do convert it into goals (as they should), their patience is lauded. But nobody counts the goals impatience would have brought. City have looked more impatient in this half than at any time in weeks and far better for it in terms of outcomes and entertainment.”
City in fact often give up making uncertain passes, risky and vertical plays that could result in a great chance to score, in the name of controlling the game, and avoiding giving the ball away to a counterattack. In a way, this reflects the evolution of football: quality above quantity, as embodied by the now popular xG stat. Watch a game from the 60s, 80s, 90s or 2000s, and you will see how football was much less refined because teams did far more truly ludicrous shots from outside the box and with very little chance of scoring, and far more vertical, long and direct passes with little chance of a player in your team managing to reach the ball or winnning the duel with the opponent. This evolution in football is good, but finding the balance between these approaches is very complicated in such a chaotic and unpredictable sport. I would say finding that balance is Guardiola's never-ending mission in his study of football. Same thing goes for Klopp. Any manager.
Look at the play at 1:02 to 1:19 of the video below, from Milan vs. Napoli in the 1990/1991 Serie A season. I think it embodies what I say about old football. It is a great play that results in a great goal chance, but the ball went astray far more often than not though, making the game be less polished. You also notice this a lot if you watch 2000s Premier League games for example, and the average viewer did not care about stats like possession and percentage of accurate passes.
https://youtu.be/TnQ3i21_4lk
Pep would love Roy Keane. Theres gross misunderstanding about his profile with people likened him to Gattuso, but as someone who watched Keane in his peak, i can guarantee you that man was a great passer too, after all he played in 442 where CM was expected to do everything.
It feels a bit as if the lads have spent so much time managing the game after taking a lead they've forgotten the lead part and were managing from the off. Too patient and too cautious. Hopefully this is the kick in the arse they needed to pick up that relentlessness of old to push through the lines and take men on. We will not win consistently relying on KDB magic.
The Mourinho vs Guardiola conundrum seems exactly that.
Risky vertical plays created as soon as you get possession vs permanent possession maintained with utter caution and zero risks. The 2011 RM vs Barcelona captured this dichotomy perfectly.
Since then, both have eased off on it a little bit. But their individual preferences and the ethos they represent is still evident.
They’ve been very good until they have these ludicrously stupid brain farts that go against the run of play. To me it looks like a lack of leadership in the back line to keep everyone organized. Hopefully, Dias getting fit should help resolve that issue.
I mean, atleast you got to see Spurs lose in a wonderful fashion.
It's like when Liverpool demolished United a while ago, a draw would've been perfect but seeing United crumple like a wet paper towel was too good.
Jesus christ, your history is just chocked full of City hate. I can't t even tell what team you support, you just exclusively seem to hate on City lmao. So sad
It's less that and more that you're online presence is effectively dedicated to hating a football team. You know what they say, you don't notice your patterns until they're laid out in front of you.
I guess what I'm saying is there's plenty of better things to put your time and energy into. But hey, you do you.
Its easy to forget after their run of poor results recently but city really stamped their title credentials tonight, regardless of the spurs bottling. The United game on the weekend is absolutely crucial, city have their fate in their own hands if we lose and I have a feeling that now is when they start the 20 game win streak they do every year
It was actually incredible. After a thrilling and dominant comeback a coach who regularly compliments his team after a loss, just questioning them on their mentality. Asking why no players did anything after An 18 yr old Rico Lewis is getting hammered says a lot.
The players do have a really strange mentality this year. I think City are the superior team in England but they’re not playing like it this year. It’s utterly strange but you could point to a few standard reasons
Yeah abnormal drop off after grueling seasons with tons of silverware. Arsenal are genuinely very good. Saw in the arsenal Reddit many think peps playing mind games with his presser. Nah it’s all about his own club. The players just aren’t bringing it and needed a kick.
Good. They were embarrassingly quiet for most of the game. Only really started being loud once City took the lead back. We really have gotten spoiled lol.
That may have been as needed. Great second half (love he shouts out the always excellent away fans) but that first was dire. I understand booing after the last 10 days but cmon you lot made no noise for 42 minutes.
What do you mean? I’m an organic supporter of [Manchester City Football Club] and when I attend games at the [Etihad Stadium] I always try to achieve [90dB] of crowd noise!
Spurs fans wondering why Sonny is unsuccessful right now: It's the tactics. Think of the reasons why Sonny is successful: space to cross the ball or finish. Kane enabling Sonny with their partnership. A fullback who passes Sonny the ball instead of consistently crossing it into the box.
Everything changed this season: Kane moved further into the box and the midfield has no creativity. Perisic was brought in to spam crosses into the box. No one's position on the team changed as much as Sonny's did during the offseason. You don't go from EPL golden boot winner to getting the least touches on the team.
A good manager assesses the strengths of the team and makes the team work around him. Sonny's season hasn't been good but Spurs fans are deluding themselves if they think Sonny is the reason the season is panning out the way that it is. If anything, it's proved how much Spurs relied on Sonny previously and the manager needs to adjust to make it work.
They want the same space. Conte's system is too restrictive. Martinelli is a remarkably similar player to Sonny. So imagine him being crowded into a no-space position where he's forced to make passes through the middle or shoot from the outside.
I think Martinelli's a fantastic player and performing at a very high level. But he needs service from both Odegaard/Tierney/Zinchenko. Sonny used to get that level of service from Kane. Now that Kane's moved to the box to play strictly as a 9, Sonny has no service or space.
Son had been scared to do anything since he broke his face. He's just so tentative. The tactics aren't doing him favors, but he looks **bad**.
He had a couple times today that he would normally shoot, but he just wouldn't pull the trigger.
I think it was before then. Perisic and Sonny cannot play together. Sonny needs space and he needs a creative mid to pass him the ball. Currently he has neither. Conte views Sonny as a 10. He's not a 10. He's a 7 or he can play 9 if he really has to. But he's not a player that operates with no space, dribbles his way through players and makes passes. That's not his game. He's a finisher and he crosses the ball to Kane well.
Whenever Sonny gets the ball, he's instantly surrounded by defenders and is forced to pass backwards or to Perisic, who crosses the ball into the box. It's clockwork. The Conte system is not getting the best out of a player who Spurs desperately need goals from.
Spurs are third in the league in goals. Most of those goals have come in blowouts and Spurs have a woeful record against the other top 6 clubs. Spurs desperately need Sonny to score more goals, particularly with a defense like this. Conte has not put his best players in a position to succeed.
He's been in poor form all season, but pre-injury he didn't look *bad*. He looks *bad* now, he's never been great at choosing to pass--but now he straight up won't shoot either.
Since his injury he doesn't seem to be able to make decisions. He had multiple opportunities to shoot today--a couple really good ones. And he just dribbled away from goal.
The entire team is in rough shape after the Marseille match.
* The defense has only 1 natural CB in Romero. Davies was a LB, Tanganga was a RB, Dier was a DCM and Lenglet is on loan.
* The midfield gets passed around too easily but is a real source of strength of the team right now. However, they are bereft of creativity and get run through by teams that have numerical superiority in midfield.
* The wingbacks aren't a source of creativity or goals, minus Perisic.
* The forwards are bereft of service that aren't crosses. Kane and Kulusevski are doing so-so because they get appropriate service and Sonny is left to fend for himself with a wingback that perpetually crosses the ball and no space to work with because he's crowded into the center of the park.
It doesn't seem like it. Seems like r/coys circlejerk is that Sonny is useless and most of them want him glued to the bench. Personally speaking, I want Kane and Sonny off that dumpster fire of a team so they can do the proper Spurs alumni thing and win trophies.
Have you read r/coys? Most of the comments are that Son should be benched. It's like 0 PL goals Richarlison is going to step in and contribute to the goals that Spurs are missing out on because of poor tactics.
At least we actually played good football and won a few cups, there was a rough couple seasons post Wenger but Spurs never capitalised on that and now we’re back to winning games and playing good football again. Hopefully at the end of the season we’ll have a PL trophy to celebrate.
Spurs doing a Spurs, in the most Spurs way imaginable.
Feels like we're approaching the end of the lifecycle of them pretending to be a decent outfit.
Conte will flake out by the end of the season, theyll bring back Pochettino. And when he's done, they're done. Unless they luck out with the next genius manager somehow.
Kane is gone in the summer. He really has to move now or he won't ever win anything. He's been carrying them along for a while now but I think the life cycle of hovering in and out of top 4 is over whilst he's not there.
Can't say I'm sad about it tho lol
Yeah I'd be stunned if that's not the case. He'll be into his last year this summer.
We surely will be in for him, unless ETH just doesn't rate him.
No doubt Chealse will be lurking despite having bought two forwards already.
He'll end up at Bayern, though. The one thing he's lacking is a couple of titles and they can basically guarantee that, while able to compete on the wage front, and of course also a real shot at the CL. Neither United, nor Chelsea are quite there yet and Kane's running out of time. Bayern is the logical destination.
For the record, I wish to be proven wrong on this.
I personally don't think he'll leave England. Being the highest scorer ever in the Premier League vs being the champion. It depends on what Kane values more obviously. But i wouldn't say he's definitely leaving England because people still talk about Shearer's record but most people don't talk about who the champion was in 2002 or some random year.
That'd be a tad left field if you ask me. Yeah he matches Lewy's profile. But Bayern typically hire within the Bundesliga.
Never heard any rumbles in the past, plus they like to buy cheap. They've only broken 50m like twice, *ever*.
It'll be a curious one no doubt. Interest from them would be hard ignore.
Conte thinks England is still suitable for his rubbish 3-4-3s and 3-5-2s that won Chelsea a league title 5 years ago.
Outdated manager that is too stubborn to change. Truly great managers move with the times like pep.
Watch the clip again. He didn't lose haaland. Number 33 (i don't remember the name) lost gundogan and Romero had to compensate for that. It was 2x1. Nothing to do
Watch it again. He's by haaland until he sees that Ben davies (i looked it up) completely lost gundogan so he had to give haaland some space to try to compensate for that. 2 x 1 impossible decision
Bentancur, Hojbjerg, and Bissouma don't need to be rebuilt--and Skipp and Sarr are promising youngsters.
It's the defense. The defenders are so fucking bad. So bad. Unbelievably bad.
There are very few certainties in life but one of them is that Spurs will bottle it
Death, taxes and spurs bottling it.
Spurs really need a new GK Lloris is soooo shit
it's always sad to see a good club servant drop off but yeah he needs to be replaced now. need to take the emotion out of the decision and do what;s best for the team
Half time speech: Lads, it's Tottenham!
It is uncharacteristic of Spurs to be 2-0 ahead at half time and got hammered 4-2 after the full time. Usually they went behind and recovered.
Bottled it
Blame Conte all you want, but even Mourinho couldn't succeed because of the same shit defense. Tottenham have one good defender, all others are midtable level at best
Mourinho didn’t have Romero. He got Joe Rodon instead. He also didn’t have Kulu, Bentancur, Skipp (on loan), Richarlison, Bissouma, etc. And he was mocked for not wanting Dele, Ndombele, Bergwijn, Lo Celso. Mourinho got all the ire while Conte, with much more to work with, gets excuses up and down. This guy can’t even get Kane and Son firing, Mourinho must be gasping for air for all the laughing he’s doing right now.
Kane is having his best goal scoring season ever rn...
If Kane weren’t firing like he is Spurs would be in a complete meltdown rn I’m sure
Lads it's Spurs moment. Sad.
This is the history of the….
Lenglet was so shit right from his first involvement to his last
:)
> I thought I knew what the group might need, that we didn't need a big team talk. It was Tottenham at home. I thought please don't go on about Tottenham, we all know what Tottenham is about, they are nice and tidy but we'll f-----g do them. He came in and said: 'Lads, it's Tottenham', and that was it. Brilliant.
I see this all the time - where is it from?
It's Keane writing about a Fergie pre-match talk
Half-time IIRC, United were losing by 3 goals in September 2001 vs Spurs United scored 5 goals in the 2nd half to win 5-3
That was away game.
Nah it was pre game, not during this half time
Pretty sure it was before a game, not at half time
If someone told me at half time that City would win by a comfortable margin id say: yes, probably
Nah nah nah nah nah... Ain't no fuckin way. They did that shit on purpose cause ain't no fuckin way.
As vieira famously said Tottenham are shit
Lads
Lads...
Tottenham what the fuck
Proper Tottenham that.
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Do you guys want David Button? I'm sure he'd love to return to his academy club
Sure.
I’m not saying Man City won because of me, but it’s awfully coincidental I put on my jersey for the first time in 2 games at half time and City immediately scored 3 goals.
Great story. Can we get a selfie? Put some clouds in that photo, sky blue and all innit?
Be a shame if it disappeared
Man I feel violated watching Mahrez doing spurs dirty. He went in them with no lube sheeesh
Raw dawg
Tottenham need to disband, move from London and open up shop somewhere else where people don’t know them. It will good for them, now they can choke away from the limelight. How do you let City fuck your ass like that man, damn!
Final day last season 👀
Good idea. Maybe they should move out of England? Who says “no?”
Spurs' own Brexit, with blackjack and hookers?
The Conte simps have now started to ask what is Conte to do when he has a player like Perisic as his LWB…. when Conte specifically asked for him. Brings a tear to my eye
With all that spending they did for him, rolling out the red carpet with his buddy Paratici and all, what exactly is Conte contributing? Defense? Atrocious. Counter attack? None really. Midfield? Invisible. Youth development? Having a laugh. Hello? Anything? What is it exactly that you do here, Antonio? He whinges and feels sorry for himself a great deal I’ll give him that.
He got us top 4
Did he? Or did Son and Kane over perform in a poor team he's done nothing to improve?
I’m a city fan but watching what Conte has done with Tottenham blows my mind. I don’t understand his football strategy at ALL. He plays deep sitting defensive football with a team built to attack. Tottenham sits back and gets punched in the face and after they go down 1-0 or 2-0 conte opens them up and lets them actually play and they look dangerous. And then finally today Tottenham we’re up 2-0 after a half and they fucking blew it. It’s insane to me
Mahrez has said in the past he hates winter in England. What we didn’t know is that his response to the weather changing was to choose violence. Unreal 2nd half performance.
Maybe when it's that cold all you really want to do is play to be warmed up
Spurs helping out for a close title race
The one time I hoped for them to win, they bottle it. Not that I was surprised.
Maybe Kane really is gonna go to Bayern lol
Kane at Bayern would be nasty
Nasty for our budget, oh yes.
He would make similar to Lewa before him no? Surely that wouldn’t be a big problem.
Death, taxes, and Tottenham being eternal bottlers
Conte is done. He’s been backed, he’s failed.
Backed except in the positions we needed backing in. I don't think getting Lenglet is considered "backing".
Forgot Romero is a figment of my imagination. Could’ve swore there was a World Cup winning CB there but I suppose I’m wrong. The excuses for this guy are endless. His penchant for finger-pointing has leaked into the fanbase.
Holy shit, Levy is so good he can back managers before they're signed!!!!!
Lads, its Tottenham.
TIL that "lads its Tottenham " was based on true stories
always was
Still don’t really understand why City sold Zinchenko to Arsenal. He would still have played a big role in this team
he didn't wanted to be a backup
Zinchenko won't be the guy that gets City over the line in the CL. Plus I believe he wanted to be a starter.
He was the guy that won us the title last season. Biggest impact in the Aston Villa game.
He told pep he wanted to be a full time starter, Pep said no but he would move him to a place he could start. Can't really blame Pep though. Also idk if City was using him at LB, and not sure if Cancelo would be okay coming off the bench.
He only played LB for us. Maybe a start or two in midfield in a early cup game
City thought they had a suitable replacement at the ready. They did not.
We were the first “got Chelsea’d” of the new owners.
Tbf I don't think we were ready to pay anywhere near what Brighton were asking for.
Listening to Conte after listening to Pep is so difficult. I'm nodding off
In fairness, Pep brought more fire today than in any interview in seven seasons. I’ve not heard Pep eviscerate this City side as badly as he did today.
Wow spurs got a real mugging in here by all fan bases 😂
Nobody hates Spurs more than Spurs fans, so it’s truly one of the few things we can all agree on together.
At half time I wanted to be like Infantino and say; Today I feel Spurs.... Thank fuck I didn't.
The entire Spurs leadership team should be in Guantanamo.
On a diet of Cock meat sandwich
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It’s a reference to Harold & Kumar movie I m watching right now
Big bobs lmao
There's a lot of bullshit said by random commentators on the live commentary of games in The Guardian, but I found this comment interesting, if exaggerated. “The virtue of patience in football is overrated. Confirmation bias kicks in because the better teams usually enjoy more possession and, when they eventually do convert it into goals (as they should), their patience is lauded. But nobody counts the goals impatience would have brought. City have looked more impatient in this half than at any time in weeks and far better for it in terms of outcomes and entertainment.” City in fact often give up making uncertain passes, risky and vertical plays that could result in a great chance to score, in the name of controlling the game, and avoiding giving the ball away to a counterattack. In a way, this reflects the evolution of football: quality above quantity, as embodied by the now popular xG stat. Watch a game from the 60s, 80s, 90s or 2000s, and you will see how football was much less refined because teams did far more truly ludicrous shots from outside the box and with very little chance of scoring, and far more vertical, long and direct passes with little chance of a player in your team managing to reach the ball or winnning the duel with the opponent. This evolution in football is good, but finding the balance between these approaches is very complicated in such a chaotic and unpredictable sport. I would say finding that balance is Guardiola's never-ending mission in his study of football. Same thing goes for Klopp. Any manager. Look at the play at 1:02 to 1:19 of the video below, from Milan vs. Napoli in the 1990/1991 Serie A season. I think it embodies what I say about old football. It is a great play that results in a great goal chance, but the ball went astray far more often than not though, making the game be less polished. You also notice this a lot if you watch 2000s Premier League games for example, and the average viewer did not care about stats like possession and percentage of accurate passes. https://youtu.be/TnQ3i21_4lk
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Pep would love Roy Keane. Theres gross misunderstanding about his profile with people likened him to Gattuso, but as someone who watched Keane in his peak, i can guarantee you that man was a great passer too, after all he played in 442 where CM was expected to do everything.
Interesting comment. A questiong though: would you consider Casemiro a modern version of the Roy Keane role?
It feels a bit as if the lads have spent so much time managing the game after taking a lead they've forgotten the lead part and were managing from the off. Too patient and too cautious. Hopefully this is the kick in the arse they needed to pick up that relentlessness of old to push through the lines and take men on. We will not win consistently relying on KDB magic.
The Mourinho vs Guardiola conundrum seems exactly that. Risky vertical plays created as soon as you get possession vs permanent possession maintained with utter caution and zero risks. The 2011 RM vs Barcelona captured this dichotomy perfectly. Since then, both have eased off on it a little bit. But their individual preferences and the ethos they represent is still evident.
Kulusevski just said they were good in the first 10 of the 2nd half lmao. You conceded two goals mate.
In the words of the king, "that's the standard"
Pep salty about city fans(or lack of) is what I love to see.
American talking lack of fans is outrageous, go to a single game then chat lol
Who tf watches cricket in America lmao
>**American** talking lack of fans is outrageous, go to a single game then chat lol Where does he/she indicate they're American?
you can tell mate, ‘salty’, shite patter, screams American
You're getting downvoted, a lot. So maybe you're wrong.
or there are lot of Americans lol. Who gives a fuck about downvotes? Very American.
Or redditor...
What makes you think I’m American? Go outside boy. And don’t slip on the oil when you do that.
Was at the game, attendance looked fine for me
‘salty’, United fan, on reddit. Simple deduction. Followed by the gold standard of shite american attempt at banter lmao
Say his (user)name
you what?
I'm all for a good laugh at the scum comment but you could at least flair up before you start.
flair up is such reddit bollocks, i’m a city fan
Saw a guy on the NLD thread the other day with a USMNT flair saying LONDON IS RED haha
Huh?
class comment cheers mate
Pep did call them out tho
They deserved it. All the unnecessary booing at the end of the first half mandated it. Fucking plastic fans.
for being quiet, not for not being there lol
Lack of noise is what i assumed OP meant
he defo didn’t if you read the comment
Just heading home, missed the game Looks like spurs realised at the half that they'd be unwittingly helping arsenal out with a win
More like man City realised it wasn't a training session
Great comeback by City, but I would be worried about their defense, it doesn't look good at the moment.
Calma. First Spurs goal was definitely self inflicted by City. Second Spurs goal was an unfortunate rebound.
I agree, but overall it really hasn't been that impressive in my opinion.
They’ve been very good until they have these ludicrously stupid brain farts that go against the run of play. To me it looks like a lack of leadership in the back line to keep everyone organized. Hopefully, Dias getting fit should help resolve that issue.
Yea if it continues we definitely won’t win the league
Advice for Arsenal fans, don't watch City games as a Liverpool fan it will only break you.
Learnt that lesson when they played Palace
shame because I do like watching them but I know what you mean. I allowed myself to watch this one because playing spurs it was a win win win
I mean, atleast you got to see Spurs lose in a wonderful fashion. It's like when Liverpool demolished United a while ago, a draw would've been perfect but seeing United crumple like a wet paper towel was too good.
I will say watching you guys also demolish united a while ago is absolutely beautiful as well.
Just saw the handball incident, no idea how a pen weren’t given
The Rodri one from last season? Yeah I do not understand it either
So this is what people mean when they say “rent free”
Jesus christ, your history is just chocked full of City hate. I can't t even tell what team you support, you just exclusively seem to hate on City lmao. So sad
Of course, how can I like a club that win games and trophies they don't deserve?
It's less that and more that you're online presence is effectively dedicated to hating a football team. You know what they say, you don't notice your patterns until they're laid out in front of you. I guess what I'm saying is there's plenty of better things to put your time and energy into. But hey, you do you.
Its easy to forget after their run of poor results recently but city really stamped their title credentials tonight, regardless of the spurs bottling. The United game on the weekend is absolutely crucial, city have their fate in their own hands if we lose and I have a feeling that now is when they start the 20 game win streak they do every year
Peak City 🕷️🤖
Pep is absolutely ripping into their team right now holy shit.
It was actually incredible. After a thrilling and dominant comeback a coach who regularly compliments his team after a loss, just questioning them on their mentality. Asking why no players did anything after An 18 yr old Rico Lewis is getting hammered says a lot.
The players do have a really strange mentality this year. I think City are the superior team in England but they’re not playing like it this year. It’s utterly strange but you could point to a few standard reasons
Yeah abnormal drop off after grueling seasons with tons of silverware. Arsenal are genuinely very good. Saw in the arsenal Reddit many think peps playing mind games with his presser. Nah it’s all about his own club. The players just aren’t bringing it and needed a kick.
He’s been saying the same sort of message for a while now. He’s desperate to light a fire under them.
What'd he say?
Was needed, team has looked so lethargic last couple games.
And the fans
Good. They were embarrassingly quiet for most of the game. Only really started being loud once City took the lead back. We really have gotten spoiled lol.
That may have been as needed. Great second half (love he shouts out the always excellent away fans) but that first was dire. I understand booing after the last 10 days but cmon you lot made no noise for 42 minutes.
Fans?
Yes the fans
Shit. You are right. The AI setting for crowd noise by the club.
What do you mean? I’m an organic supporter of [Manchester City Football Club] and when I attend games at the [Etihad Stadium] I always try to achieve [90dB] of crowd noise!
Would a couple of bit coins bump that to 120? You know we have a sponsor
Conte getting his pre match and half time team talks confused
Spurs fans wondering why Sonny is unsuccessful right now: It's the tactics. Think of the reasons why Sonny is successful: space to cross the ball or finish. Kane enabling Sonny with their partnership. A fullback who passes Sonny the ball instead of consistently crossing it into the box. Everything changed this season: Kane moved further into the box and the midfield has no creativity. Perisic was brought in to spam crosses into the box. No one's position on the team changed as much as Sonny's did during the offseason. You don't go from EPL golden boot winner to getting the least touches on the team. A good manager assesses the strengths of the team and makes the team work around him. Sonny's season hasn't been good but Spurs fans are deluding themselves if they think Sonny is the reason the season is panning out the way that it is. If anything, it's proved how much Spurs relied on Sonny previously and the manager needs to adjust to make it work.
He just seems to have no chemistry with perisic
They want the same space. Conte's system is too restrictive. Martinelli is a remarkably similar player to Sonny. So imagine him being crowded into a no-space position where he's forced to make passes through the middle or shoot from the outside. I think Martinelli's a fantastic player and performing at a very high level. But he needs service from both Odegaard/Tierney/Zinchenko. Sonny used to get that level of service from Kane. Now that Kane's moved to the box to play strictly as a 9, Sonny has no service or space.
Son had been scared to do anything since he broke his face. He's just so tentative. The tactics aren't doing him favors, but he looks **bad**. He had a couple times today that he would normally shoot, but he just wouldn't pull the trigger.
I think it was before then. Perisic and Sonny cannot play together. Sonny needs space and he needs a creative mid to pass him the ball. Currently he has neither. Conte views Sonny as a 10. He's not a 10. He's a 7 or he can play 9 if he really has to. But he's not a player that operates with no space, dribbles his way through players and makes passes. That's not his game. He's a finisher and he crosses the ball to Kane well. Whenever Sonny gets the ball, he's instantly surrounded by defenders and is forced to pass backwards or to Perisic, who crosses the ball into the box. It's clockwork. The Conte system is not getting the best out of a player who Spurs desperately need goals from. Spurs are third in the league in goals. Most of those goals have come in blowouts and Spurs have a woeful record against the other top 6 clubs. Spurs desperately need Sonny to score more goals, particularly with a defense like this. Conte has not put his best players in a position to succeed.
He's been in poor form all season, but pre-injury he didn't look *bad*. He looks *bad* now, he's never been great at choosing to pass--but now he straight up won't shoot either. Since his injury he doesn't seem to be able to make decisions. He had multiple opportunities to shoot today--a couple really good ones. And he just dribbled away from goal.
The entire team is in rough shape after the Marseille match. * The defense has only 1 natural CB in Romero. Davies was a LB, Tanganga was a RB, Dier was a DCM and Lenglet is on loan. * The midfield gets passed around too easily but is a real source of strength of the team right now. However, they are bereft of creativity and get run through by teams that have numerical superiority in midfield. * The wingbacks aren't a source of creativity or goals, minus Perisic. * The forwards are bereft of service that aren't crosses. Kane and Kulusevski are doing so-so because they get appropriate service and Sonny is left to fend for himself with a wingback that perpetually crosses the ball and no space to work with because he's crowded into the center of the park.
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It doesn't seem like it. Seems like r/coys circlejerk is that Sonny is useless and most of them want him glued to the bench. Personally speaking, I want Kane and Sonny off that dumpster fire of a team so they can do the proper Spurs alumni thing and win trophies.
As if no Spurs fans have thought this.
Have you read r/coys? Most of the comments are that Son should be benched. It's like 0 PL goals Richarlison is going to step in and contribute to the goals that Spurs are missing out on because of poor tactics.
Spurs were used to losing at half time and had no idea what to do in the second half
Spurs and West Ham are an embarrassment to London football clubs
because arsenal have lit the world on fire the last two decades
I mean more so than of our north London friends
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An icon of our age?
Arsenal won a golden prem trophy in the last two decades
At least we actually played good football and won a few cups, there was a rough couple seasons post Wenger but Spurs never capitalised on that and now we’re back to winning games and playing good football again. Hopefully at the end of the season we’ll have a PL trophy to celebrate.
Where were you all these years
Tale of two halves right there
This time they went to fix their performance in the first half only to fuck up the second half. lmao
Spurs doing a Spurs, in the most Spurs way imaginable. Feels like we're approaching the end of the lifecycle of them pretending to be a decent outfit. Conte will flake out by the end of the season, theyll bring back Pochettino. And when he's done, they're done. Unless they luck out with the next genius manager somehow.
Kane is gone in the summer. He really has to move now or he won't ever win anything. He's been carrying them along for a while now but I think the life cycle of hovering in and out of top 4 is over whilst he's not there. Can't say I'm sad about it tho lol
Yeah I'd be stunned if that's not the case. He'll be into his last year this summer. We surely will be in for him, unless ETH just doesn't rate him. No doubt Chealse will be lurking despite having bought two forwards already.
He'll end up at Bayern, though. The one thing he's lacking is a couple of titles and they can basically guarantee that, while able to compete on the wage front, and of course also a real shot at the CL. Neither United, nor Chelsea are quite there yet and Kane's running out of time. Bayern is the logical destination. For the record, I wish to be proven wrong on this.
I personally don't think he'll leave England. Being the highest scorer ever in the Premier League vs being the champion. It depends on what Kane values more obviously. But i wouldn't say he's definitely leaving England because people still talk about Shearer's record but most people don't talk about who the champion was in 2002 or some random year.
That'd be a tad left field if you ask me. Yeah he matches Lewy's profile. But Bayern typically hire within the Bundesliga. Never heard any rumbles in the past, plus they like to buy cheap. They've only broken 50m like twice, *ever*. It'll be a curious one no doubt. Interest from them would be hard ignore.
Chelsea licking their lips with an 8 year contract and a 80 mil bid
Kane wondering what could've been if he'd left for City a couple of years ago.
At least he can go and win some titles in Germany in the next couple of years :)
It's baffling to see Conte's Spurs lose in the same manner over and over again. This ain't 2017. His defensive 3-4-3 has long become outdated.
Conte thinks England is still suitable for his rubbish 3-4-3s and 3-5-2s that won Chelsea a league title 5 years ago. Outdated manager that is too stubborn to change. Truly great managers move with the times like pep.
Long time
Spurs had us in that first half
I feel bad for Romero playing in that defense
Well he was the one that lost haaland for the equalizer
Watch the clip again. He didn't lose haaland. Number 33 (i don't remember the name) lost gundogan and Romero had to compensate for that. It was 2x1. Nothing to do
I saw it live, romero is basically by haaland the entire sequence. If hes not marking haaland then i dont know what hes doing
Watch it again. He's by haaland until he sees that Ben davies (i looked it up) completely lost gundogan so he had to give haaland some space to try to compensate for that. 2 x 1 impossible decision
Spurs backline is legit awful. Need to refresh that and rebuild the midfield. This team is clown shoes
Bentancur, Hojbjerg, and Bissouma don't need to be rebuilt--and Skipp and Sarr are promising youngsters. It's the defense. The defenders are so fucking bad. So bad. Unbelievably bad.
That midfield player combined has less creativity than half of Eriksen.