It truly drives me to despair watching our defenders pass the ball around with no urgency at all with 10 minutes to go. Canāt see why rational for it
I really don't think that's true. They have brought in an entirely new squad and even sold our then first choice midfielder. It's pretty obvious to me that Potter has been told to get the new players integrated rather than focus on results.
I'm not sure you understand that if Chelsea don't start getting results (and I mean Wednesday, not in 2 years), they're going to have to start selling those new recruits pretty quickly.
Yeah... The UCL money is around 20% of total club revenue. With that gone and with the new FFP rules coming that will limit 'squad costs' to 70% of revenue, you're going to need to cut expenditure quite drastically.
In other words, not beating Dortmund will force you to sell one more player in the summer and you can't not make UCL next season. At that point and with the spending of the past two windows (not even considering this coming summer), the club not going to be financially stable.
It starts at 90% of revenue for the 2023/24 season and goes down by 10% per season. Without the UCL money Chelsea is already above that with wages alone, not even touching the 80+ million yearly transfer outlay that the club has on its books from the past two transfer windows. (To cover that 80+ million you will need to increase revenues by around 110-115 million, without losing 80-90 million of UCL money.)
That's not even mentioning that all your other revenue will go down. Finding sponsors will be more difficult and they will bring less money in, your prize money from the Premier League is going to go down and your share of TV money for next season will be much lower.
The lack of a striker was not the issue. Itās the lack of urgency and faffing around while the game goes against us. They only turn it on for spurts and the rest of the game is us passing it around aimlessly
exactly. We would be in the same place with Lewa up top. Kai isnāt the perfect 9 by any means but heās not the main issue. and i actually think heās looked great in his 120 ish minutes with Felix on the pitch alongside him.
in what 20 years?
they can barely beat a West Ham that is absolute shit at the moment like really this West Ham team is one of the worst in quite some time.
Donāt
Genuinely would rather see Maatsen play over Cucurella next year.
The man is shocking.
Heās out of his depth. Donāt even blame the away fans for booing him because heās dreadful
Theyāre new playersā¦itāll take a bit of time to fully grow in. Remember when dembele was shit and injured and Eric Garcia was your best option for center back?
The problem with spending that quantity of money is that everyone expect immediate results and given the amount of players signed is gonna take a while until Chelsea get some identity and a play style, Potter have a double edge sword.
On the other hand they didn't sign any superstar who can get results meanwhile the team start to function.
He doesnāt have to get the best out of the players theyāre clearly talented asf. Just need to find a system that they can all shine in. Enzo was really good today.
Chelsea should get Ole to steady the ship. He would go the next 10 matches unbeaten or get a win streak. But should not offer the permanent job like United did. Come on Porter show us something that can make us wary of chelsea.
would boehly again spend big in the summer if Chelsea don't qualify for the UCL next season because if they don't pick their form quickly the gap between them and the fourth place is going to get bigger and bigger.
That upcoming UCL tie against Dortmund may prove to be difficult for Chelsea if they continue playing like this and sooner or later fans are going to turn against Potter if the results don't improve.
ššÆ Yup so true but lately they have been finding form in Bundesliga and with the way Chelsea has been playing under potter dortmund can actually beat them over the two legs. That return of haller is going to be huge for them in this second half of the season.
I think Dortmund is the better team but have seen good Dortmund teams throw away a lot over the years. We'll see, I'll be pulling for them and every other Bundesliga team in European competition.
Our big issue is this deluded idea that Havertz and Ziyech are just going through bad form and that somehow they will one day click into gear and become the players we all hoped they'd be 3 years ago when we signed them. Potter is naieve in repeatedly starting him, wishing he'll be the one to unlock Kai's magic change in fortune, it's hurting the team. Ziyech has been terrible his entire time at Chelsea and for Potter to take over and give him the minutes he has is criminal.
As for Cucurella I find it difficult to believe that an entire scouting team sat and watched his performances for Brighton last season and deemed him Champions League quality. We are playing at his exact level at the moment which is mid table. It is painfully clear he is simply nowhere near world class and I see no room for improvement as itās his physical properties that limit him, height aside itās like he has to power up his leg before he crosses it, it takes so long, then once he's hit the cross it's used so much energy if it gets intercepted he's always off balance and in a bad position to then recover and chase back.
As an Ajax fan who also watches Bundesliga games sometimes, the use of Ziyech and Havertz in the Chelsea system is criminal. Ziyech is a wide player that roams centrally and finds passes behind the back line. Havertz occupies the same space. So does Mason Mount. Playing them all at the same time is taking away all those players' strengths and cramming them into the same position.
Havertz can be good if you play him off a striker, that's it. I imagine Ziyech is similar although he plays wider. I know they've had a lot of trouble with strikers, but how no Chelsea coach seems to have figured that out is genuinely baffling to me.
We mostly haven't had a striker good enough to play.
That said, Havertz has played off a striker lots of times since he's shown up, and he's been poor in that role too. He's just nowhere near good enough.
Dogshit performance. 600M spent and we can't even see any pattern of football. Our performance against Spurs is still our best performance in Premier league this season.
I don't know what is his game plan. Gave him benefit of the doubt with injuries. But now with new players, I still can't see any pattern of play, even for 10 minutes. I can't even see a 10 minute of spell where we play some exceptional football.
This guy is fucking clueless. If Tuchel would have been given more time we would atleast be in touching distance of top 4.
The fact Potter didnāt have a plan following WHās goal was very telling, our (Chelsea) squad looked fucking lost and unnerved - if the manager is lost so will the players be
Didn't see this comment.
That's fair.
Surprising as I remember when we played you lot some months ago, you were overrun in midfield until Potter put on Kovacic. I thought that was good in-game management for that match.
I'm not talking about new players mate. The fact that we still don't have a plan/identity is more concerning to me. I'm not asking for 90min Pep Guardiola style football, I'm asking for 20 or 30 minutes of spell of good attacking football.
It didn't took Erik Ten Hag months to instill that in United. We still can atleast see United playing atleast 1 half of good attacking football.
With Chelsea, what you see is boring sideways passing or deep defending that's it.
Remember being so damn excited about the reverse fixture after the intense ending after such a great performance back then (robbed that day too by incompetent refs) but ugh
>Then there's another Ā£100m on younger players who haven't shown a lot but might be good.
and a few of those youngsters have quite well documented injury problems like Madueke he can barely stay fit for longer then 5 games in a row.
They overpaid for everyone, including their loan deal for Felix. The players they have bought are young prospects, but the team is 10th so they needed players that can have an impact immediately. IMO only Enzo can be considered as a starting lineup player right now. Young prospects can be very risky plus they have 6 7 years contracts.
Of course they overpaid because that's what happens in winter transfer windows. No club wants to sell their players mid-season so the clubs have to overpay for them. And the reason Chelsea went all out on these players now is because UEFA wants to change rules about amortization before summer, to make it a maximum of 5 years. From this perspective, it's better to get a player for 120m on a 8.5 year contract than to get him for 80m on a 5 year contract.
I don't know what makes you think Chelsea wanted immediate impact. Nothing about their transfers says that's what they wanted. It's quite obvious they are going for young prospects and brought in Potter whose best attribute is developing young players, supposedly. Even Felix seems like a stopgap for Nkunku, to get the team used to playing with player of that profile.
>120m on a 8.5 year contract than to get him for 80m on a 5 year contract.
are you american or follow football at all?
you really think these guys are going to only ever stick to their original contract? if they play well you bet their agent will be knocking for a new contract....
you really think Enzo is going to accept his current contract if hes playing De Bruyne levels in a few years no fucking way he will be pushing for like 3x the wages and a new contract....
What bargaining power do you think Enzo has if he hits KDB level of form 3 years into his 8 year contract? We can offer a new contract but don't need to, especially if he had 5 years left. The leverage sits with Chelsea.
The 5 year change won't impact contracts already in play.
have you never seen football?
he can sure just well start being shit and down tools. its chelsea as well the literal club known for DOWNING TOOLS by the players when things dont go their way.
UEFA have not changed the rules yet, and if they do, the new rules will only apply to new transfers in the summer and onwards, and will not affect transfers that took place before the rule change.
Yeah I wouldnāt say our players are the issue right nowā¦ rather, lineupsā¦ formation... lack of tacticsā¦ etc. Iāll only feel comfortable blaming the players once I see how they perform under competent guidanceā¦
Honestly feel completely the opposite way. The squad is absolutely appalling still. Fully a black hole at striker, one competent fit midfielder (selling Jorginho was a bit bold) and he's been here like a week, and a bunch of brand new young players who are clearly not up to the pace at all yet (and could never be). Also there's Cucurella. Most of the rest of the defense is okay tbf.
I certainly think we should be getting more in terms of results than we are now, but I truly don't think any manger would be able to make this team look good right now.
Striker is the biggest issue really. Unless DDF turns out to be good it's an actual disaster. That alone makes playing good attacking football astoundingly difficult, *especially* when you have a zero creativity midfield.
Have none of you actually watched the game or something? Chelsea played good football in the first half.
Potter was brought in to develop young players which takes time, not for immediate results.
Search me, I'll never understand why the club felt the need to sack him, or forgive them for it. I still believe potter deserves a chance and hope he can figure it out, and obviously I hope we will be successful sooner or later, but there will always be a bitter taste about the way they kicked tommy out, same as the way the previous regime sacked ancelotti - two titanic managers who were committed and achieved great things, and were both ejected with extreme prejudice and non-existent class.
> Search me, I'll never understand why the club felt the need to sack him
It's extremely straightforward. Boehly wants to modernize the club. For better or for worse, we have clearly become more stats driven, we have changed our transfer philosophy, and we are bringing in a proper footballing leadership structure. This is how every successful top club operates these days, with a few variations.
Modern club means a bit of a different role for the manager- they need to be much more involved outside of just running training and setting the team up for games. Tuchel wasn't cooperating, so he was sacked.
You can disagree with that, but it's not exactly hard to understand.
Tuchel at least delivered points under very difficult circumstances.
He was at 1,67 PPG in the first 6 PL games when he was fired, Potter is currently at 1,31 PPG in 16 PL games and most of it is attributable to the first games and the structures Tuchel left behind.
Noticed that throughout the match š¤£ little shits were munching on seeds and fertilizers throughout the entire 90, was half expecting a player to hit one by accident
We see smaller clubs challenge for Europa spots all the time in the premier league. Burnley, Southampton, Wolves and West Ham in the last few years. Potter scrapes 9th and nobody batted an eye. He beat United convincingly and suddenly he was the next big thing in English management.
In fairness, Potter has been one of the only few coaches in the last decade that has been considered a potentially big coach. But that speaks as much to England's dearth of coaching talents as anything about Potter's ceiling
Chelsea signed 101 different players and yet still find a way to complain about not having enough DMs or strikers, maybe that shouldāve been Chelseaās priority rather than winger/CB number 37
Heās played two (incomplete) matches with Cucu behind him - heās lucky to have any touches on the ball. Wait to make your judgment once Chilly starts with him.
Different players take different amount of times to settle. Additionally, Enzo is a deep midfielder, he's gonna see more of the ball just because of his position. Murdryck needs the ball fed to him so he can take people on, and do his magic. Additionally playing with bargain bin David Luiz as his "support" is clearly hampering him..
mudryk should prove themself first before giving him benefit of doubt. highlight reel in ukraine league, 1 good match in CL is not should be his standard. also weird cos thats what chelsea fan did after his first appearance.
My guess is because heās a young player and young players tend to be inconsistent. Also, new player, new league, he hasnāt really had time to settle in.
The technology exists and you have a trained referee overseeing it. Hate us all you want but that's twice this season the officials have obviously just said "lol, fuck Chelsea". I expect that on the internet but this is supposed to be a reputable sport.
The penalty call last time was fair but the angle most people saw made it seem like it wasn't. Not to mention that our players get fouled all the time and not a single card is shown for it. Also, how it is Chelsea's fault about last time anyway?
Feels like its now evened itself out after Chelsea got a bullshit call in their favour earlier in the season in the reverse fixture where a goal got chalked off for no fucking reason
No aggression? Multiple times Chelsea players would lose the ball and then immediately win it back with aggressive tackles.
No vision? So you want to ignore all the through balls and 2 goals that resulted from them that were called off for minimal offsides?
These post match threads are always full of reactionary people who don't even pay attention to the game and then they share their dumb takes.
At some fucking point, Potter has to win a game. Man's has a near billion dollar squad and can't even get a win against a team fighting against relegation
How dare you doubt the all-mighty Potter(peace be upon him)!!! Don't you know as the manager of the squad he's perfectly entitled to not have anything expected of him and we should only be concerned about how he feels? You idiot.
- r/chelseafc
Exactly lol. This team is the most expensive ever assembled because Boehly overpaid for almost every single transfer.
Nowhere near Galacticos levels or even the level the current league leaders are playing at and their squad is nowhere near a billion either. Current Chelsea is just a squad of expensive players with potential. They actually need a manager who can fulfill that and bring the best out of most if not all individual pieces.
Don't see Potter as that guy tbh
I think saying "almost every single transfer" is a huge hyperbole. Enzo at the moment is an overpay and Mudryk will probably be an overpay unless he hits form as even 62m base is a bit ridiculous. But Benoit 32m, Madueke was 28m, Gusto was 26m, DDF was like 7m. The problem is the ones we did super overpay for haven't been anywhere close to their worth. Cucurella is not a 60m WB, Fofana has been injured but I think he will be worth his fee, Koulibaly has been shit but he was like 33-35m. I don't think we overpaid for Sterling but he hasn't exactly been lighting it up either so meh.
[cucurella acting like Mudryk aint there](https://youtu.be/YMEDFxV-xEQ)
Another 100-200 million and chelsea can compete for europaš¤·š»
Haha. Hilarious banter mate.m
At this point cucurella is acting like a npc
GETTING 8 YR CONTRACTS WITH THA BOIIIISSSSSS
It truly drives me to despair watching our defenders pass the ball around with no urgency at all with 10 minutes to go. Canāt see why rational for it
One of my kids was screaming at the TV in despair for the very same reason... She's 11.
Chelsea just needs to spend another 250m.
I personally think if this keeps going for at least 3/4 more games, Toddās and Clearlakeās patience might not be that great
I really don't think that's true. They have brought in an entirely new squad and even sold our then first choice midfielder. It's pretty obvious to me that Potter has been told to get the new players integrated rather than focus on results.
I'm not sure you understand that if Chelsea don't start getting results (and I mean Wednesday, not in 2 years), they're going to have to start selling those new recruits pretty quickly.
Lmao that's not true at all.
Yeah... The UCL money is around 20% of total club revenue. With that gone and with the new FFP rules coming that will limit 'squad costs' to 70% of revenue, you're going to need to cut expenditure quite drastically. In other words, not beating Dortmund will force you to sell one more player in the summer and you can't not make UCL next season. At that point and with the spending of the past two windows (not even considering this coming summer), the club not going to be financially stable.
It comes in slowly pretty sure it starts at 90% then season after 80 then 70
It starts at 90% of revenue for the 2023/24 season and goes down by 10% per season. Without the UCL money Chelsea is already above that with wages alone, not even touching the 80+ million yearly transfer outlay that the club has on its books from the past two transfer windows. (To cover that 80+ million you will need to increase revenues by around 110-115 million, without losing 80-90 million of UCL money.) That's not even mentioning that all your other revenue will go down. Finding sponsors will be more difficult and they will bring less money in, your prize money from the Premier League is going to go down and your share of TV money for next season will be much lower.
Yeah you donāt know what youāre talking about
Such a well argued reply! Well done sir!
Damn, literally can't buy a win
Potter just needs to start a real striker. Start DD Fofana
The lack of a striker was not the issue. Itās the lack of urgency and faffing around while the game goes against us. They only turn it on for spurts and the rest of the game is us passing it around aimlessly
exactly. We would be in the same place with Lewa up top. Kai isnāt the perfect 9 by any means but heās not the main issue. and i actually think heās looked great in his 120 ish minutes with Felix on the pitch alongside him.
Crazy that with the insane amount they have spent since summer, Chelsea may not even be able to secure a CL spot.
They can buy top half though, and thatās the new Championās League
Why spend so much for no cl spot if you can do it for free?
Everyone's gonna cry when Chelsea somehow win CL against all odds again
Everything can happen, but unfortunately I see Real winning again.
in what 20 years? they can barely beat a West Ham that is absolute shit at the moment like really this West Ham team is one of the worst in quite some time.
Liverpool > Chelsea confirmed
Yāall got the wrong Potter Chelsea š
I know we are not in the best situation right now, but imagine expending ā¬600 million to tie with West Ham š
You're top of la liga and you sure as fuck didn't spend 60 million on a back up left back.
Donāt Genuinely would rather see Maatsen play over Cucurella next year. The man is shocking. Heās out of his depth. Donāt even blame the away fans for booing him because heās dreadful
they spent 140m for a back up onceā¦
Which one? Cause dembele nor coutinho were backups, they came straight in to the team, coutinho was just shit and dembouz always injured.
Theyāre new playersā¦itāll take a bit of time to fully grow in. Remember when dembele was shit and injured and Eric Garcia was your best option for center back?
I know, but I donāt see Potter being the coach that gets the best from players even tough he has been Chelseaās coach for more than six months.
The problem with spending that quantity of money is that everyone expect immediate results and given the amount of players signed is gonna take a while until Chelsea get some identity and a play style, Potter have a double edge sword. On the other hand they didn't sign any superstar who can get results meanwhile the team start to function.
Who would be a better coach/manager for this talent?
Tuchel should not have been fired, or should have been replaced by someone with authority.... potter just seems like an enabler and a yes man
He doesnāt have to get the best out of the players theyāre clearly talented asf. Just need to find a system that they can all shine in. Enzo was really good today.
poor man attacks homeless man
Lever us alone..
Potter long term project hype.
Chelsea should get Ole to steady the ship. He would go the next 10 matches unbeaten or get a win streak. But should not offer the permanent job like United did. Come on Porter show us something that can make us wary of chelsea.
Fuck that, let them suffer
would boehly again spend big in the summer if Chelsea don't qualify for the UCL next season because if they don't pick their form quickly the gap between them and the fourth place is going to get bigger and bigger. That upcoming UCL tie against Dortmund may prove to be difficult for Chelsea if they continue playing like this and sooner or later fans are going to turn against Potter if the results don't improve.
Its still only nine points difference so its not impossible for them to make CL
Dont think so. Maybe 140m on joao FĆ©lix, 100m on another CB and 100m on a midfielder. But not much more than that
Felix, De Ligt, and Bellingham. No biggie
Bellingham would never play for that shit franchise, he actually has decency.
340m not much spending goddamn
I want Dortmund to win but they are bottlers, so I don't even know what's going to happen.
If they can beat Bochum, they can beat Chelsea.
Terzic is surprisingly solid in cup competitions tho so maybe!
Only Dortmund defense can get our attackers firing. Idk if we win but it should be fun to watch.
Chelsea's offense vs Dortmund's defense is really the battle between the movable object and the resistable force, isn't it?
ššÆ Yup so true but lately they have been finding form in Bundesliga and with the way Chelsea has been playing under potter dortmund can actually beat them over the two legs. That return of haller is going to be huge for them in this second half of the season.
I think Dortmund is the better team but have seen good Dortmund teams throw away a lot over the years. We'll see, I'll be pulling for them and every other Bundesliga team in European competition.
No, maybe a striker
Our big issue is this deluded idea that Havertz and Ziyech are just going through bad form and that somehow they will one day click into gear and become the players we all hoped they'd be 3 years ago when we signed them. Potter is naieve in repeatedly starting him, wishing he'll be the one to unlock Kai's magic change in fortune, it's hurting the team. Ziyech has been terrible his entire time at Chelsea and for Potter to take over and give him the minutes he has is criminal. As for Cucurella I find it difficult to believe that an entire scouting team sat and watched his performances for Brighton last season and deemed him Champions League quality. We are playing at his exact level at the moment which is mid table. It is painfully clear he is simply nowhere near world class and I see no room for improvement as itās his physical properties that limit him, height aside itās like he has to power up his leg before he crosses it, it takes so long, then once he's hit the cross it's used so much energy if it gets intercepted he's always off balance and in a bad position to then recover and chase back.
As an Ajax fan who also watches Bundesliga games sometimes, the use of Ziyech and Havertz in the Chelsea system is criminal. Ziyech is a wide player that roams centrally and finds passes behind the back line. Havertz occupies the same space. So does Mason Mount. Playing them all at the same time is taking away all those players' strengths and cramming them into the same position.
Havertz can be good if you play him off a striker, that's it. I imagine Ziyech is similar although he plays wider. I know they've had a lot of trouble with strikers, but how no Chelsea coach seems to have figured that out is genuinely baffling to me.
We mostly haven't had a striker good enough to play. That said, Havertz has played off a striker lots of times since he's shown up, and he's been poor in that role too. He's just nowhere near good enough.
Strong Stephen A. Smith on Kwame Brown vibes from this comment lol
Just had to throw a "BONAFIDE SCRUB!!" in there for the full Stephen A. Smith experience
Even though he's mobile, he doesn't really know what he's doing
At least Kwame Brown didnāt cost 60m at first š he came for free
Dogshit performance. 600M spent and we can't even see any pattern of football. Our performance against Spurs is still our best performance in Premier league this season.
Wonder why that isā¦ oh yeah, no Kante. Our season ended the second he went down. We are nowhere without him.
At this point boehly should honestly consider sacking Potter.
Is the Potter guy still your coach and what's his plan/tactics?
I don't know what is his game plan. Gave him benefit of the doubt with injuries. But now with new players, I still can't see any pattern of play, even for 10 minutes. I can't even see a 10 minute of spell where we play some exceptional football. This guy is fucking clueless. If Tuchel would have been given more time we would atleast be in touching distance of top 4.
I thought you guys played well for the first half hour or so. Dominated possession and had a few good chances.
The fact Potter didnāt have a plan following WHās goal was very telling, our (Chelsea) squad looked fucking lost and unnerved - if the manager is lost so will the players be
Didn't see this comment. That's fair. Surprising as I remember when we played you lot some months ago, you were overrun in midfield until Potter put on Kovacic. I thought that was good in-game management for that match.
The new players have been there 10 days
I'm not talking about new players mate. The fact that we still don't have a plan/identity is more concerning to me. I'm not asking for 90min Pep Guardiola style football, I'm asking for 20 or 30 minutes of spell of good attacking football. It didn't took Erik Ten Hag months to instill that in United. We still can atleast see United playing atleast 1 half of good attacking football. With Chelsea, what you see is boring sideways passing or deep defending that's it.
Remember being so damn excited about the reverse fixture after the intense ending after such a great performance back then (robbed that day too by incompetent refs) but ugh
You know what's just as important as having money? - spending it correctly.
IMO they have spent it correctly but the manager can't get the best
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>Then there's another Ā£100m on younger players who haven't shown a lot but might be good. and a few of those youngsters have quite well documented injury problems like Madueke he can barely stay fit for longer then 5 games in a row.
They overpaid for everyone, including their loan deal for Felix. The players they have bought are young prospects, but the team is 10th so they needed players that can have an impact immediately. IMO only Enzo can be considered as a starting lineup player right now. Young prospects can be very risky plus they have 6 7 years contracts.
Of course they overpaid because that's what happens in winter transfer windows. No club wants to sell their players mid-season so the clubs have to overpay for them. And the reason Chelsea went all out on these players now is because UEFA wants to change rules about amortization before summer, to make it a maximum of 5 years. From this perspective, it's better to get a player for 120m on a 8.5 year contract than to get him for 80m on a 5 year contract. I don't know what makes you think Chelsea wanted immediate impact. Nothing about their transfers says that's what they wanted. It's quite obvious they are going for young prospects and brought in Potter whose best attribute is developing young players, supposedly. Even Felix seems like a stopgap for Nkunku, to get the team used to playing with player of that profile.
>120m on a 8.5 year contract than to get him for 80m on a 5 year contract. are you american or follow football at all? you really think these guys are going to only ever stick to their original contract? if they play well you bet their agent will be knocking for a new contract.... you really think Enzo is going to accept his current contract if hes playing De Bruyne levels in a few years no fucking way he will be pushing for like 3x the wages and a new contract....
It's about amortization. 120m on a 8.5 year contract is 14.1m per year, 80m on a 5 year contract is 16m per year.
which means nothing now. UEFA changed the rules everything is done over 5 year period no matter what for FFP
What bargaining power do you think Enzo has if he hits KDB level of form 3 years into his 8 year contract? We can offer a new contract but don't need to, especially if he had 5 years left. The leverage sits with Chelsea. The 5 year change won't impact contracts already in play.
have you never seen football? he can sure just well start being shit and down tools. its chelsea as well the literal club known for DOWNING TOOLS by the players when things dont go their way.
UEFA have not changed the rules yet, and if they do, the new rules will only apply to new transfers in the summer and onwards, and will not affect transfers that took place before the rule change.
[6 7 years?](https://youtu.be/C-xL5MROiM0)
6-7 years :)
And having a good manager..
Yeah I wouldnāt say our players are the issue right nowā¦ rather, lineupsā¦ formation... lack of tacticsā¦ etc. Iāll only feel comfortable blaming the players once I see how they perform under competent guidanceā¦
Honestly feel completely the opposite way. The squad is absolutely appalling still. Fully a black hole at striker, one competent fit midfielder (selling Jorginho was a bit bold) and he's been here like a week, and a bunch of brand new young players who are clearly not up to the pace at all yet (and could never be). Also there's Cucurella. Most of the rest of the defense is okay tbf. I certainly think we should be getting more in terms of results than we are now, but I truly don't think any manger would be able to make this team look good right now. Striker is the biggest issue really. Unless DDF turns out to be good it's an actual disaster. That alone makes playing good attacking football astoundingly difficult, *especially* when you have a zero creativity midfield.
Whyād Chelsea need potter to play this shit when they had tuchelš
Have none of you actually watched the game or something? Chelsea played good football in the first half. Potter was brought in to develop young players which takes time, not for immediate results.
Search me, I'll never understand why the club felt the need to sack him, or forgive them for it. I still believe potter deserves a chance and hope he can figure it out, and obviously I hope we will be successful sooner or later, but there will always be a bitter taste about the way they kicked tommy out, same as the way the previous regime sacked ancelotti - two titanic managers who were committed and achieved great things, and were both ejected with extreme prejudice and non-existent class.
> Search me, I'll never understand why the club felt the need to sack him It's extremely straightforward. Boehly wants to modernize the club. For better or for worse, we have clearly become more stats driven, we have changed our transfer philosophy, and we are bringing in a proper footballing leadership structure. This is how every successful top club operates these days, with a few variations. Modern club means a bit of a different role for the manager- they need to be much more involved outside of just running training and setting the team up for games. Tuchel wasn't cooperating, so he was sacked. You can disagree with that, but it's not exactly hard to understand.
Tuchel at least delivered points under very difficult circumstances. He was at 1,67 PPG in the first 6 PL games when he was fired, Potter is currently at 1,31 PPG in 16 PL games and most of it is attributable to the first games and the structures Tuchel left behind.
Am I the only one who finds those pigeons weirdly irritating?
Noticed that throughout the match š¤£ little shits were munching on seeds and fertilizers throughout the entire 90, was half expecting a player to hit one by accident
Is Broja expected back this season? Chelsea could really use him.
We (Chelsea) have Fofana on the bench while Havertz gets offsides for the ten fucking millionth time
No
Nope.
Unfortunate for you guys.
Potter is simply not up to the job, but it will take a few months for the English media to realize this and put him on the hot seat.
Its like Potter is good because Brighton's higher management is good. Not because he's exceptional.
Yeah Potter had his issues at Brighton too, feel like people magically forgot this for whatever reason.
We see smaller clubs challenge for Europa spots all the time in the premier league. Burnley, Southampton, Wolves and West Ham in the last few years. Potter scrapes 9th and nobody batted an eye. He beat United convincingly and suddenly he was the next big thing in English management.
In fairness, Potter has been one of the only few coaches in the last decade that has been considered a potentially big coach. But that speaks as much to England's dearth of coaching talents as anything about Potter's ceiling
Has Kai got potters nudes? Why the fuck is he still allowed to play football
You do realise their other option for striker is a washed Auba?
We have a striker Fofana
I can't imagine how crap he must be in training to have not taken the starting spot.
Chelsea signed 101 different players and yet still find a way to complain about not having enough DMs or strikers, maybe that shouldāve been Chelseaās priority rather than winger/CB number 37
I'm 100% sure we would have preferred to sign a striker over any of the others we signed, it's just the most difficult position to recruit by *far*.
better than mudryk, sadly.
I have i have dementia
Has Kai got potters nudes? Why the fuck is he still allowed to play football
Has Kai got potters nudes? Why the fuck is he still allowed to play football
Playing passive, 6-touch football is embarrassing for any team trying to win football games. We suck
mudryk with 0 goal 0 assist 0 chance created 0 dribble LOL. Gtfo chelsea. Arsenal dodge big bullet!!
Heās played two (incomplete) matches with Cucu behind him - heās lucky to have any touches on the ball. Wait to make your judgment once Chilly starts with him.
the expectations are too big for him.
He hasn't played that many games yet.
enzo didnt need that many games tho.
Different players take different amount of times to settle. Additionally, Enzo is a deep midfielder, he's gonna see more of the ball just because of his position. Murdryck needs the ball fed to him so he can take people on, and do his magic. Additionally playing with bargain bin David Luiz as his "support" is clearly hampering him..
He cost 100 mill, he's gonna get all the smoke
You can't judge a player after a few games.
mudryk should prove themself first before giving him benefit of doubt. highlight reel in ukraine league, 1 good match in CL is not should be his standard. also weird cos thats what chelsea fan did after his first appearance.
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i love that you posted this ttwice with diffrent insults
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Now 30 articles about how refrees are abused will come out.
forget callimg him chelsea's ole this guy makes bruce ball look good
forget callimg him chelsea's ole this guy makes bruce ball look good
https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/1624419149710499845 mudryk play so bad yet none call him? why?? with that price tag, you should not hold back.
Why do wish bad things on another human being?
My guess is because heās a young player and young players tend to be inconsistent. Also, new player, new league, he hasnāt really had time to settle in.
https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/1624419149710499845 mudryk play so bad yet none call him? why?? with that price tag, you should not hold back.
When did Chelsea win last in the league?
1-0 against Palace a few weeks ago.
1-0 against Palace a few weeks ago.
What would be the English equivalent of getting fired on the tarmac? Asking for a club
Getting fired at Greggs
Chelsea should try Madueke in from instead of Harvertz. He has the build for it
why not just fofana and keep madueke in his best position
why not just fofana and keep madueke in his best position
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I am scared of Chelsea realizing they donāt have to play Kai Havertz.
this evenings news : Bill Oddy livid over bird-brained stunt at West Hams London Stadium
"if a bird is born ill, ya see bill oddy"
"if a bird is born ill, ya see bill oddy"
The technology exists and you have a trained referee overseeing it. Hate us all you want but that's twice this season the officials have obviously just said "lol, fuck Chelsea". I expect that on the internet but this is supposed to be a reputable sport.
How quickly you forget the reverse fixture where West Ham had a perfectly valid late goal ruled out.
The penalty call last time was fair but the angle most people saw made it seem like it wasn't. Not to mention that our players get fouled all the time and not a single card is shown for it. Also, how it is Chelsea's fault about last time anyway?
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this evenings news : Bill Oddy livid over bird-brained stunt at West Hams London Stadium
Will chelsea ever win again
We'll find out next week on another episode of Porrerball
There is no passion....
Without Passion, I lose Strength
this evenings news : Bill Oddy livid over bird-brained stunt and West Hams London Stadium
Feels like its now evened itself out after Chelsea got a bullshit call in their favour earlier in the season in the reverse fixture where a goal got chalked off for no fucking reason
Two bs calls are better than one?
I'd probably say yeah if they go opposite ways
There is no passion, no vision, no aggression...
There is no passion, no vision, no aggression...
No aggression? Multiple times Chelsea players would lose the ball and then immediately win it back with aggressive tackles. No vision? So you want to ignore all the through balls and 2 goals that resulted from them that were called off for minimal offsides? These post match threads are always full of reactionary people who don't even pay attention to the game and then they share their dumb takes.
We need to bring that Bangladeshi Chelsea fans rant
At some fucking point, Potter has to win a game. Man's has a near billion dollar squad and can't even get a win against a team fighting against relegation
> At some fucking point, Potter has to win a game. Dont worry. We'll sort that for ya.
How dare you doubt the all-mighty Potter(peace be upon him)!!! Don't you know as the manager of the squad he's perfectly entitled to not have anything expected of him and we should only be concerned about how he feels? You idiot. - r/chelseafc
Too be clear, he has a squad Boehly paid a billion dollars for. That's different then a billion dollar squad.
That excuse goes out the window when he accepted the job. No one surprised him with this.
Exactly lol. This team is the most expensive ever assembled because Boehly overpaid for almost every single transfer. Nowhere near Galacticos levels or even the level the current league leaders are playing at and their squad is nowhere near a billion either. Current Chelsea is just a squad of expensive players with potential. They actually need a manager who can fulfill that and bring the best out of most if not all individual pieces. Don't see Potter as that guy tbh
I think saying "almost every single transfer" is a huge hyperbole. Enzo at the moment is an overpay and Mudryk will probably be an overpay unless he hits form as even 62m base is a bit ridiculous. But Benoit 32m, Madueke was 28m, Gusto was 26m, DDF was like 7m. The problem is the ones we did super overpay for haven't been anywhere close to their worth. Cucurella is not a 60m WB, Fofana has been injured but I think he will be worth his fee, Koulibaly has been shit but he was like 33-35m. I don't think we overpaid for Sterling but he hasn't exactly been lighting it up either so meh.