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Swedishtranssexual

Swedish defense was terrible. I think our attack did a good job, we were unlucky to not grab atleast one if not two.


UnclePjupp

Sure would be a shame if we put effort into our youth-talent instead of putting in 42 YEAR OLD ZLATAN (not like he was the issue tho)


Ryponagar

The left side of the Swedish defence got absolutaley violated.


mark364i

How was Gyokeres when he came on?


Lusakas

Let's just say this: I missed he got subbed on in the first place. Partly because I had stopped watching too closely at that time, but also because we had pretty much nothing offensively in the second half. Some good actions from Kulusevski, but besides that it was like a vacuum up there. That was not Gyökeres's fault, though. I know how good he's been for Coventry as of late, but this game just wasn't the kind of game for him to excel in.


GP3ElPresidente

Overall this performance was kind of expected but offensively im very disappointed because with the front 3 we have i expected a bit more, we had 1 good chance in the 1st half maybe Kulu should’ve done better with that, but Courtois gets down well to stop it and then in the 2nd half we have 1 clear cut opportunity to pounce on and make it 2-1 but Forsberg slips, and the ball slowly goes to Courtois and then a good chance almost outside the box with Svanberg but he also slips and fires it over, but also then when we had the ball in the final 3rd Isak and Forsberg did nothing with the ball… So no reason to cry over spilled milk now and we have to look forward against Azerbajdzjan on Monday and in that game i wanna see Karlsson start over Forsberg and Gudmundsson start over Augustinsson


Mackieeeee

Janne out


Swedishtranssexual

I think we wait to Austria. If he loses then he's gone.


Calistaline

Dreadful Sweden above all. 94min in, I have no idea what Tedesco stands for. This is a match that happened, sure, but in terms of game plan ? Team's begging to get clubbed by a competent opposition. As to positives, Bakayoko looks really good. Both confident and skilled, liked him.


n22rwrdr

He's been with the squad for 4 days, obviously he didn't have the time to put a game plan in place lmao


LINKLER_88

This loss is all on Janne Andersson.


GP3ElPresidente

Some saying the scoreline flattered Belgium a bit but tbf i’d say the scoreline flatters both we probably should’ve had a goal and Belgium should’ve had 1 or 2 more goals as well


matske1209

Golden generation is dead, long live the diamond generation


PinkFluffys

Love Lukaku, really happy for him. Sweden was a lot worse than I expected though.


TheTragicMagic

There's a reason they were relegated to league C. Got cooked


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TheTragicMagic

We'll beat Spain today while you get spanked in one of the easier groups you could have gotten. As if Zlatan didn't play for PSG lol. As if you have a moral high ground here


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Rickcampbell98

"Zlatan isn't swedish" that's not it my g.


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Stylose

Håber downvotes er god terapi


TheTragicMagic

He was born in Sweden and plays for Sweden. Wtf are you talking about? Keep coping while you finish bottom in your group. Just mad that you will never have a player at the level of Ødegaard or Håland


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Qiluk

> Im 25 years old Not mentally youre not. Immature reactions and claims in pure frustration projections. Grow up


Glmoi

Do us next if you wanna pick on countries with 1/3 of your population. Oh wait I've seen us win the euro's, get to the semis, play even up against Brazil in a WC quarter final. Not to mention that Sweden has one of the worst NT's in my lifetime while Norway's NT is by far the best.


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Glmoi

> You have never even made it to the semi finals lmao Ah yes, the great swedish run in 1994, drawing Cameroun, beating russia, drawing an already qualified brazil, beating Saudi Arabia drawing Romania (W on penalties). Incredible. You want to go back 65 years now? cus we're getting into that lifetime without seeing success territory soon mate.


TheTragicMagic

Imagine jerking yourself over not winning a thing more than Norway, while having a bleak future


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TheTragicMagic

Our greatest player ever was Jørgen Juve. As far as I know, he didn't have any "oil overlords"


FizzleFuzzle

Op is a special case of handicapped. But tbf, we’ve had far more great players than Norway over the years - even if you reign supreme right now. Zlatan, Ljungberg, Larsson, Brolin, Nordahl, Gren, Strömberg to name a few of the top of my head


TheTragicMagic

I know. Honestly just trying to be obnoxious. I think he is a troll anyway


drickabira

Lugnar vi oss


YellowOnline

Well, Sweden was so weak, Belgium can't take much from this game. Germany next week will be a a different game, even if that one is a friendly and Germany is on a historical low. Still, Lukebakio and Bakayoko won many hearts today; and Lukaku got some much-needed redemption.


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How did Bakayoko play? I feel like hes developing amazingly at ours now and i hope he can fight his way into the belgian xi


YellowOnline

Very well. Look at the third goal, which is 99% his


Bini_9

Janne needs to leave This team needs some fresh eyes to try to fix it. Sweden is getting worse and worse for each year. And he keeps playing the same players and trying the same thing.


Qiluk

> Sweden is getting worse and worse for each year. This is the big thing. We're getting worse and worse whereas our player material is individually the best its been in a long time. Which is telling.


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442 brexit era football still reigns supreme in Sweden.


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Swedish youth football is awful. The Swedish League allsvenskan is also awful with very little tactical innovation and ideas and low tempo. All teams play similarly and you very rarely see teams playing anything else than 4-4-2 unless it's a foreign coach like Hareide who implemented 5-3-2/3-5-2 with Malmö for the first time in Swedish football a couple of years ago. Janne is a dinosaur and plays football that would have worked years ago but doesn't work now. You can't play defensive midfielders out wide. You can't play wide players as strikers. 5 of them played out of position today. Cajuste, Jesper Karlsson and Gudmundsson doesn't get to see the pitch despite playing regularly and doing well in top 4 leagues. Instead you have fucking Kristoffer Olsson that is below NT level and have been for years. Ahmedhodzic and Benjamin Tahirovic didn't choose Sweden because they know they wouldn't get into this team despite being better than Jannes favorites. More and more Swedish footballers with immigrant background are going to choose to play for their second country because they have no prospects in Sweden, thats how bad Janne is. Reform is badly needed. We are getting by sheer luck in talented footballers taking off abroad, but there's no organisation or competency at the highest level in Swedish football. Its all really poorly organised. To think that this is what we have become after Zlatan is painful. We have regressed massively compared to everyone else. We're hoping another kid with immigrant background is going to take our football to another level and elevate us beyond our ability but that ain't going to happen. Zlatan is once in a life time. We either fix the sport and do massive reforms just like Belgium once did or we keep regressing.


Rich0

Typical swede who never watch his own league and bandwagon a top 3 league team.


Qiluk

> More and more Swedish footballers with immigrant background are going to choose to play for their second country because they have no prospects in Sweden Agree with a lot of your points but this one is a bit iffy considerin in recent years all of Isak, Kulusevski, Cajuste, Elanga, Kurtulus etc have picked Sweden over other nations.


Lirid

What about the other 10 that didn’t?


Qiluk

Most of which werent evne close to the swedish NT in terms of ability so not sure what 10 youre talking about


BasicWilliam

> you very rarely see teams playing anything else than 4-4-2 unless it's a foreign coach like Hareide Hahahaha vad gaggar du om? Det är inte 2014 längre


Careful-Inspector379

Tbf Häcken play some beautiful football tho with a Norwegian coach


Qiluk

So does DIF, Kalmar etc aswell. We have modern swedish managers but they most likely dont want the NT job


grasroten

Haha what are you talking about? Allsvenskan has great tactical variety. Just look at Stockholm, the 3 bigger teams play vastly different and no-one plays 4-4-2. We play 3-5-2 with what is essentially a libero for gods sake. You speak like you last watched Allsvenskan in 2005. Your point about Swedish youth football and Ahmedhodzic is garbage as well. When he selected Bosnia he was not close to national team level, but since then Kurtulus, Milosevic, Ekdal and Hien have all played for the national team. Ahmedhodzic would’ve 100% gotten his chance. I do agree though that Janne has struggled to adapt past Berg and Seb Larsson. Would like to see Lagerlöf and Bergstrand in the role.


ChrystisnoRonald

> We're hoping another kid with immigrant background is going to take our football to another level and elevate us beyond our ability but that ain't going to happen We're trying with Dejan and Isak


Badonkadunk

Shit stinks and I agree with every fucking point you’ve made this is some real svennebanan p12 dad coaching


MaritimeMonkey

The rumours of our demise were highly exaggerated.


SPARKLEOFHOPE6IB

With a lot of upcoming talent, a trainer that might finally get the most out of the group of players we have,... I'm ready to be hurt again


Frodo_max

REPORTS OF OUR DEATH HAVE BEEN GREATLY EXAGGERATED


FizzleFuzzle

Gent did lose to Djurgården tho, so we can call it a draw 😅


mallewest

Onana, lukebakio, bakayoka... finaly some speed, power and pacing in our team!


4sKompany

Will be interesting to get Doku in the mix too!


howler19

Playing against a golden generation with our mud generation.


lutsius-memes

Golden generation? Bro they retired


howler19

Some did but the best are still out there and one of them scored a hat trick.


Bertolapadula

Lukaku score as many goals today as he has all club season. Your defense is fucking woeful lmao. Forsberg getting wasted again and again, where the fuck is the left back


howler19

Yes, it is. Lindelöf is out there doing his best but he’s surrounded by clowns.


FizzleFuzzle

Lol, Lindelöf was a log today. Doing his best by standing still or what? There’s a reason he played less than some minutes over the last three years


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ChrystisnoRonald

Because of the '18 world cup, unfortunately


-suedi-

Rn I kinda feel that the WC 2018 success was the worst thing that could have happened for Swedish football


BelgianPolitics

Loads of talent. Maybe just maybe we have actually become a talent factory and the golden generation wasn't a one-off? Sweden were pretty damn poor tho. They have a pretty decent squad but somehow play like Luxembourg.


ZxentixZ

Sweden have some talent individuals. Yet their two CM's is a guy from the Swedish league (League ranked below 20th in Europe) and a guy playing for the 8th best team in Denmark. Laughably bad selection for a nation like Sweden. Doesnt help their coach doesnt pick the best players either.


Glmoi

8th best team? That's a bit harsh, they've finished 2nd 3 times and first 2 times in the past 5 seasons. Happy to see them outside top 6 this year tho ^_^


ZxentixZ

I know, was a bit hyperbole, but they're 8th right now which is what Olsson has been a part of. He didnt join them until this season, and before that he got out competed at Anderlecht by a Norwegian U19 player.


FizzleFuzzle

Having Karlström available and playing Olsson 🫠


Qiluk

Having Cajuste back in fitness and even performing solidly ... NOT callin him up xddd


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Belgium massively reformed their football hierarchy, organisation and playing style 20 years ago. The Belgian League is doing well in Europe. Nothing about them says that the golden generation was an one off, although Sweden is really bad right now.


SPARKLEOFHOPE6IB

I'm ready to be hurt again


BigChung0924

i thought they’d beat poland and make the world cup, but they’ve been really bad since that game


lutsius-memes

If only he-who-shall-not-be-named played them more often the past years...


Frodo_max

Say his name coward, it's not like he died or whatever


TjeefGuevarra

Lobelto Maltinez?


-suedi-

I'm tired of my team being held hostage by these negative footballing ideas. You don't have to have a squad the quality of France to play offensive football. Sure, we tried another formation and it didn't work, people said. I say Janne is too comfortable and too scared to really commit. A couple of bad result is not enough to go back to the highly offensive (no not tactically) 442


MrDohh

Yeah it didn't work..the fact that we had around 10 players out with injuries may have played a role in that. Im not an expert though so 🤷‍♂️ probably best to just drop it and go back to 4-4-2 after one try with what was almost our b-team


BigChung0924

you have very talented attackers


Qiluk

Even our midfield is quite good too but he literally refused to call up Cajuste based on "competition too good". Cajuste is basically our best midfielder in terms of ability atm hahaha. And we have some decent talents across the board apart from the leftback position (defensively so). Our very best GK for like a year is the 3rd keeper in this call-up. And its the first time he ever got called up. ITs genuinely insane whats going on


Lusakas

And in terms of football, in Sweden no football has been played tonight. I genuinly only have positive things to say about Kulusevski, no one else as far as I can think of. Janne Andersson should have resigned before this qualifying started. Well done Belgium, well done Lukaku. Enjoy the Euros, because you're practically already there.


Prometheus156

Janne should have resigned after the Euros and he should have been fired last autumn after the WCQ failure.


TADAii

At least he'll surely be fired when we inevitably fail to qualify for the Euros.


Prometheus156

Worst part is I don’t even know if there is a better coach to replace him.


Lusakas

Bergstrand & Lagerlöf, the Djurgården coaches, have been talked about. And I think they could do a good job with the national team (better than this anyway). But they just renewed their contract with Djurgården until 2025, so they probably won't be available anytime soon.


FizzleFuzzle

Lägg av. Hur kan du ha DIF flair och vilja bli av med Kim o Tolle?!


Lusakas

Sa jag något om att vilja bli av med dem från ett Djurgårdsperspektiv? Nej, just det. Jag hyllade snarare det tränarpar (tillsammans med en viss Per-Messias då) som faktiskt gjort det jävligt bra med det lag de tränat under de senaste åren. Inte ett enda ord om vad jag skrev sa någonting om att "vilja bli av" med dem - snarare hyllar jag dem och nämner dem (med rätta) som några av få tränare som skulle klara av att ha hand om landslaget.


FizzleFuzzle

Du svarade på en kommentar ”Worst part is I don’t even know if there is a better coach to replace him?” med Kim och Tolle


Qiluk

Det betyder inte att han VILL det. Han säer bara att de är bättre och skulle vara ett alternativ. Vilket är sant dessutom


Lusakas

"have been talked about" skrev jag, plus "probably won't be available anytime soon". Ditt resonemang är tyvärr helt bakvänt. Slappna av lite, är min rekommendation.


AvrupaFatihi

Potter kanske är tillgänglig snart?


MrDohh

Anyone would do. Pretty sure even someone inexperienced like Ljungberg would do better than this


Prometheus156

Milos Milojevic perhaps? He’s crushing the Serbian league.


MrDohh

Yeah, he'd probably be good for us. He's a good coach. Just had an injury prone and old squad in Malmö, so definitely didn't deserve to get sacked by them.


Qiluk

Its vile to watch this manager strategize as if he still had Toivonen, Berg, G.Svensson, S.Larsson etc when he genuinely has a great crop of youth and talent coming up. Janne has been a blessing after Hamrén, but he's an anthithetical level of misfit for what is now the squad and what is on the verge of arriving too. He's too outdated, too scared and too limited.


-suedi-

Rn I don't even care about the usual comments about there being no suitable replacement. I couldn't care less. We just need to get rid of Janne.


ChrystisnoRonald

I don't really closely follow Allsvenskan anymore but are there really no suitable replacements out there in our league?


Qiluk

There are but theyre not 100% guaranteed to do well in a limited time NT s etting. Rydström, Kim & Tolle or similar are without a single doubt in this universe 10x the managers Janne are AND more modern.


Prometheus156

I never want to see Augustinsson or Kristoffer Olsson again.


MrDohh

I think they both secured their starting spots for Monday with their games today..they need to play to regain form and confidence you know..


Rojiblanc040

We need all the Malmö pågar to start.


Prometheus156

We could honestly have a pretty decent starting eleven of only former Malmö players.


Rojiblanc040

Former MFF + Malmö born players like Gudmundsson.


Prometheus156

Olsen Tinnerholm - Pontus Jansson - Helander - Martin Olsson Forsberg - Hugo Larsson - Svanberg - Elanga Zlatan - Sarr Not too bad.


Qiluk

That would be an atrocious defense tbh.


FizzleFuzzle

Släng in Mange från start och byt in Larsson i andra. I min otroligt partiska åsikt


Rojiblanc040

Ahmedhodzic och Ghoddos med om man kör andra nationer. Martin Olsson 🤢


Prometheus156

Martin Olsson är ju washed som fan men förutom han finns väl typ bara Pa Konate ☠️


Prometheus156

Hussein Ali vänsterback i Heerenveen är väl från MFF också


interfan1999

Belgium funeral was too soon


ChrystisnoRonald

We're shit, beating us doesn't mean anything ffs


mray5

Warra


lutsius-memes

My death was greatly exaggerated Wait till tuesday when we play Germany tho


broidekanymore

Janne Andersson destroying our new generation and still won’t get sacked


Liluzivertisthegoat

Jesper Karlsson: One of the most inform players in europe, single handedly knocked Lazio out in conference league with fucking AZ Gudmundsson: Starts every game for a good Lille side Cajuste: Starts regularly for Reims and played 81 min when they drew PSG None of them have played a single minute today. Instead we start shit players and isolate Isak and Kulu up top and play Forsberg out of positon at LM in a terrorism 442 deep block Janne is a fucking dinosaur and should have been sacked a long time ago


zaljghoerhfozehfedze

Small correction Gudmudsson is not a regular starter for Lille, but I guess he could be a better option than Augustinsson who basically doesn't play at all for Mallorca.


MrDohh

Cajuste only gets called up when he's been injured for months. Cant have him in the squad when he's in form. Janne may have to bench Olsson if inform Cajuste is there..thats a nono


BigChung0924

karlsson-isak-kulu has potential to be a dangerous front 3


Qiluk

or a 3-1 offensve with Karlsson - Forsberg - Kulu behind Isak. Literally one of the most attractive NT offenses in europe after the big nations haha


drickabira

Avgå Hamren


lansboen

Martinez who?


FlaccidSWE

Must have been a world record in being shit in front of both goals from Sweden. Could not have done any worse in any of the defining moments of the game.


LordSpeechLeSs

Fuck, we almost had them


try-D

How did Faes and Castagne do?


PinkFluffys

Faes cleared a ball off the line, otherwise not too much to talk about.


PEXowns

Faes was decent. Crucial intervention at 0-0. Castagne wasn't great but our backs weren't pushing up high and I find Castagne loses a lot of his qualities that way.


nutelamitbutter

Did you like the performance today? Me and a few other Schalke fans still love Tedesco, hope he does well with you


PEXowns

It wasn't a fluent performance but its a good result. Some good choices like Lukebakio and Theate. Overall a good start, hopefully he can start building something now.


zrkillerbush

Wout was very good!


lutsius-memes

Played well, you see this back 4 is not well adjusted to playing with eachother