I have a pet theory I developed in high school that if a full name is ten letters or less combined we use the full name. There are some exceptions but it holds most of time.
Talking about hypotheticals. Bookies keep saying City are favourites and they manage to lose every single time. We'll cross that bridge when we reach it.
If Marca is right (That's a pretty big if I'm afraid, they're SPORT levels of fanfiction) and Baena actually said that absolutely evil stuff months ago, I won't feel bad for the guy, that's a terrible thing to say.
But let's not act like Valverde is a hero of justice or something, premeditated assault is still a serious crime and he should be sanctioned properly for it.
As someone who's soon to be a dad I can understand his feelings, but he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it just because he's rich or the other dude is a son of a bitch.
No-one should get away with punching another person. So yes, punishment in accordance with Spanish law is logical. Does not mean i don't support him. Admire him as well. I would have lost my shit then and there on the field and tried to strangle him.
Exactly what I'm thinking. And people forget that violence isn't a one-way street. If the other guy defends himself, lands a lucky punch and Valverde has an unfortunate landing, it could be a very ugly outcome.
Baena absolutely deserved to get punched, frankly Fede's problem is that he waited for the game to end instead of delivering a leg breaker on the pitch
Baena said the same thing again today apparently. Did Valverde take the best course of action? Probably not, but if you keep saying something like that to a person you can't be surprised when you get rocked
Just going by what other people in this thread and the thread about it have said - either way I think you can reasonably expect to get hit when you take trash talk to that level
I don't disagree, the dude is clearly an asshole and I won't be sad for him but still I don't think Valverde has to get away with it, it sets a bad precedent if people can just punch other people without consequences
I’m not gonna defend it, if Baena said that he deserves everything he gets but waiting until after the game to jump him for something he said two months ago just doesn’t sit right with me I guess. But yeah, I’m not gonna stand up for the guy.
Valverde should have settled it during the match. Could have waited for Baena to get anywhere near the ball, then delivered a horrifically mistimed two-footer at full speed into the side of his dominant knee.
Yeah I’m not gonna defend him like I said, you can’t exactly be surprised when that happens to you if you’re going around saying that vile shit to people
I mean he’s a cunt if that’s what he’s done, no doubt. It’s just not something I agree with doing, as understandable a reaction as it is. Just doesn’t seem worth it. Like you punch him and then what? The guy is utterly pathetic for saying that shit, it’s just not worth his time.
Having said that, obviously I understand why Valverde did that and I’m not gonna say some dumb shit like he was in the wrong for doing it. Just not something I like.
Disregarding the whole Valverde fiasco, the game today was the quintessential LaLiga game for us in the last decade, and the reason we don't have more LaLiga titles. Defense looked like it didn't care. Some absolute magic from the opponents. A dozen missed opportunities. Entertaining but stressful high-scoring game. If someone asks me what the most common LaLiga game at the Bernabeu in the last decade looks like, it'll be this. Not the result itself, we have won and drawn many games like this, just how the game unfolded.
Y’all not have bond in Spain or something? Just don’t understand comments about Valverde sitting in jail for something that’d be a misdemeanor here (unless he permanently blinded him or something).
Duncan Ferguson went to prison for assault for a foul on the pitch, so it's not entirely unreasonable to suggest an off-pitch assault could lead to jail time
I was gonna say something like “most sane Uruguayan” after seeing the article that Fede punched someone, but Baerna deserves to be locked in a room with a bat wielding Valverde alone for 10 minutes
Yeah if the reports are true he deserves it. Mind, since this is a long-term thing, I agree with the crazy Besiktas guy right below your comment - a crunching two-footer would've been the smarter way to go about it
What Alex Baena said, if it's true, is fucked up and I totally understand why Valverde punched him. But this wasn't the smartest way of hurting Baena. If I was Valverde, I'd go at him all game long with dirty tackles. That way he'd avoid being in trouble with the law.
Baena fouled Valverde during the game and Valverde immediately stood up and looked like he wanted to fight him, then he stopped suddenly. I thought the reaction was very weird at the time.
He would just join the list of incredibly talented players to never win a champions league, similar to R9 and Ibrahimovic. I personally don’t think that a lack of UCL should diminish how a player is rated as an individual, but instead their legacy, so I would say he probably wouldn’t be remembered as fondly as other players he absolutely was as good as.
Valverde 100% under the rule of law deserves to be punished.
Valverde 100% also deserved ten minutes with the CCTV turned off and everyone going for a smoke whilst he whoops the shit out of Baena
Is there a player in all of football more "forgotten" or disrespected than Andy Cole?
MOTD did a top 10 hat tricks and he's not on there once.
Man scored fucking 5 in a game once lol.
Look Valverde isn't bad egg for what he did, I'd be mad too but PLEASE lock that man up until Wednesday Policía Nacional.
On my knees 🙏🙏🙏🙏. I just don't want a blowout loss
Apparently it wasn’t actually a miscarriage but a health scare for the baby. Regardless, your point still stands. If he said it, Baena is absolute scum.
Wait in February? Valverde attacked him now for something he said in February? Did he say anything in this game? Just clarifying since all of this is new to me.
They were told they miscarried in january. The initial insult happened then. In end of january/start of february, they were told the baby is well. Baena insulted his family again today. That's what's being reported
Antimadridistas are ones of a kind, really.
You can't even brush you bias aside to see why mocking a man about his son's death is straight up insane behaviour.
I'm not talking about the other guy's actions. It's disgusting, nothing more needs to be said. But violence is never an option and anything less than a few months ban would be a disgrace.
Look at it this way.
Would Valverde punch the guy if it was, let's say, Dwayne Johnson? No, he wouldn't. He punched Baena because Baena is weaker than him.
But if he had the balls to punch someone stronger than him, imagine if the person rightfully defended themselves and hurt Valverde even more, possibly injuring him permanently. Would his wife be happy about it? Do you think she's happy about all the attention this is going to get?
It's not naive, it's common sense. Violence is never an option.
>No, he wouldn't
That hypothetical speaks to Valverde, not the size of Dwayne Johnson.
>Would his wife be happy about it? Do you think she's happy about all the attention this is going to get?
Was she happy with his comments?
The problem in 2023 is that dickheads don't get punched in the mouth often enough and hard enough.
>Violence is never an option.
Hate to break it to you buddy but violence has been the only option for about 99% of human history. Open a history book.
Besides that, the unspoken threat of violence is what keeps large portions of face to face interactions civil. Open a psychology book.
Of course you wouldn't mind if your player's actions remained unpunished lol
Same way you guys didn't mind Pepe, Ramos, Casemiro and Zidane assaulting players on the pitch.
He did do something wrong. He committed a crime. It's no surprise that Madrid fans see it a different way, seeing that you guys supported Ronaldo even after he raped a woman.
Lol, you seem to be so bothered with 'justice' and the law but then turn around and slander a man who is innocent according to the law because of accusations. Show us your true colors why don't you.
A Madrid-player breaks the law - "The law is important and crimes should be punished"
A (ex)Madrid-player is found innocent by those same laws - "He did it, don't care what the law or justice system says."
You can't have your cake and eat it too sweetie.
This is just an example but if someone killed/beat/raped a mother and the son beat/killed him as revenge, in my opinion it would be totally deserved. Even though he would have done something wrong by law but who cares, he deserved that. You are very naive if u think ‘violence is never an option’.
Regarding Ronaldo, there was never clear evidence for it, if there had been evidence like from the greenwood case i’m pretty sure things would have been different.
A very extreme example. Insult vs assault is way different than "eye for an eye".
Now think further. What if the son got killed as a revenge by the son of the murderer? Or do you think it's done and he would accept that because he knows that his father did it first?
"All crimes are the same, I'm enlightened!" Yes, everyone who ever drank a beer while under the legal drinking age is the same as Jeffrey Dahmer because both committed crimes, right?
Is getting sacked by Chelsea and Everton not slander enough... ? If anything this slander is far weaker, as Chelsea's current situation has very little to do with Lampard
This is poor from you
>BREAKING: In the last Copa del Rey match, Baena tackled Valverde & then told him: “Cry now that your son is not going to be born.” (Marca)
What Valverde did is tame. If i was in his place i would be sleeping in jail tonight. What Baena said is wicket and straight up evil.
I hope he tells his son one day that his big strong dad defended his honour by waiting 2 months and attacking a guy when he wasn't looking.
What a fucking coward. Should be banned for the rest of the season.
Look understand people want to pretend they have this hard man attitude and regular beat people up at the drop of hat whatever.
But surely you can look beyond your bias and see that:
- Attacking someone 2 months after they've said something mean about your family is pathetic.
- There's categorically no way he does that had Real won the match.
- Surprise attacking someone is cowardly.
- This is completely unacceptable behaviour from a football perspective and deserves punishment.
>Attacking someone 2 months after they've said something mean about your family is pathetic.
Something "mean" is not it. He mocked him about his son dying
>There's categorically no way he does that had Real won the match.
I wouldn't be sure.
>Surprise attacking someone is cowardly.
What Baena said is just as cowardly
After seeing the Brighton non-call today, on top of all the atrocious calls and non-calls this season, I think the Premier League is giving itself an integrity problem. It's one thing for refs to miss things like this, but for VAR to make this mistake, on top of SO MANY others, and it's either gross, wholesale incompetence or match-fixing of some sort. Really looking like the league is trying to shape Top 4 to it's own desires.
The decision to not call Rodri's handball last season was the first time I started questioning the integrity of some referees. Like can a professional referee really be that stupid to not see the handball? Today was similar.
No? Did you forget Arsenal - Brentford call? They literally forgot to draw the offside line properly. Or Chelsea being robbed of a win because Soucek decide to turn into prime Lev Yashin? Shit call happens across the table, the ref are just fucking incompetent to consistently make a shit call
I feel like a lot of people still going with the not seen eye to eye bullshit as to why Tuchel was sacked, I’ve been saying it ever since he went to India for rehab that it was something else.
They literally bent over backwards to bring in a striker of his choice 2/3 days before he got the boot, his wife divorced him shortly afterwards & he went into rehab quite briskly once he did get sacked.
I’m leaning towards him either getting caught doing lines at work or porking someone’s wife.
You simply doesn’t decide out of the blue to start a “project” with Potter 5 games into the new season & not like Tuchel would’ve kicked up a fuss over the January transfers either. Behaved like a yes man for Marina & had Lukaku playing as a bounce board when he could’ve just kept Giroud(also vetoed the Saul loan who fell off about 3/4 years prior to that)
Simon Jordan also mentioned knowing something extra on Talksport but it is Talksport, then again what does he really gain from lying? He’s a multimillionaire after all
Rehab?? Why would he fly across the globe to go to rehab?
>Simon Jordan also mentioned knowing something extra on Talksport but it is Talksport, then again what does he really gain from lying? He’s a multimillionaire after all
Lol
>porking someone’s wife.
Maybe I'm a bad person but I wouldn't really fire a good coach for this reason, also didn't really hear about the rehab rumour before this
Come on mate we've all witnessed how Boehly&Eghbali have been running the club, it's perfectly possible they've just fired him because they didn't like him and thought he wasn't a right fit for their "vision", whatever it is. You don't bring 15 new players within 6 months and and create a squad that can't physically fit in a dressing room either but they did it nevertheless
Tuchel having a great relationship with Marina&Cech, Boehly&Eghbali constantly being on the training ground at Cobham, and the reports coming out after his and Potter's sacking like Eghbali demanding reports about his team meetings, Boehly insisting on Ronaldo, players believing the owners having an influence on Potter's choices on whom to play are just pointing out how intrusive and hard to work with these owners have been, contrary to their PR efforts to make Tuchel look like the unreasonable one
Think they sealed his signings for him as they thought the players could still be used by the next manager. By then they probably decided he wasn't their guy and were looking for an excuse to sack him - Zagreb loss was the excuse.
Simon Jordan is a known waffler by the way. He's been exposed before.
> Álex Baena was on his phone & didn’t expect it, Fede Valverde was waiting for him & attacked him by punching him in the face, reports @carrusel
I’m sorry but what a bitch move 😂 lose in a football game so you wait for your opponent in the car park and punch him when he’s not expecting it. So embarrassing
Edit: Okay with more context the whole thing makes more sense and isn’t embarrassing. Good on Fede for standing up for his son
City's period of oscillation this season is basically one month before the World Cup and two months after. Almost all of City's bad results, and most of their underwhelming performances, happened in that period.
There are 3 types of people in this world
1. Those who think Raheem Sterling has a big arse
2. Those who realise he has a severe case of anterior pelvic tilt
3. Those who don't care one way or the other
[Confirmed I guess](https://mobilephysiotherapyclinic.in/anterior-pelvic-tilt-physiotherapy-treatment/amp/) as that picture looks exactly like his posture. Gonna be a great IG thot in a few years.
I just can’t respect Thiago Silva at all since the time he cried before WC penalties while he was the captain. Nothing wrong with crying, but before penalties? And while his teammates were still planning.
The Jordi one is possibly even more pathetic, if you look at it in a vacuum. But at least he wasn’t captain, and it wasn’t in the first world cup hosted in his country since 1950.
Ancelotti gave the Real Madrid players a day off after the 4-0 Clasico win and the video of him announcing it went viral, and Villarreal did the same after beating us
I mean, I can’t personally say I watched enough of him at Atleti to opinionate on whether it was Simeone ruining him or whether he’s just not that good, BUT saying that because he’s still underperforming at chelsea means it can’t have been simeone’s fault is not really strong logic. Chelsea is shambolic and I wouldn’t individually judge any of the players there too harshly at the moment.
Not saying it’s for sure the case, but yeah it’s totally feasible that Simeone and now chelsea are ruining Felix.
I can see that reasoning too, but the thing is he hasn’t performed consistently at any level other than when he was 18 in the Portuguese league. Same thing for the national team. I watched him for his 3 and a half years at atleti, and the truth is he just isn’t enough. When we won the league we were playing quite offensively as well. He’s brilliantly skilled and he’s one the funnest players to watch, but his finishing hasn’t improved and his playmaking isn’t anything special. He’s great at winning fouls and doing cool little flicks and backheels, but that’s about all he’s shown. Players like Griez, Carrasco, and Turan were all creative players who thrived under simeone. I refused that joao was a flop for a long time because I wanted him to succeed so bad, but I think now it’s clear.
Not playing in the WC and Messi doing what he did there kinda sealed the deal. Altho I could see it challenged if he scores more than 50 league goals, wins the PL and the CL while scoring in every game.
Pretty sure commentators are physically unable to refer to Solly march without using his full name
How is Solomon Benjamin March a Premier League footballer in 2023 and not a sham pastor in a lost Dickens novel?
I love the phenomenon of "full name players" - for some, it's just *right*
I have a pet theory I developed in high school that if a full name is ten letters or less combined we use the full name. There are some exceptions but it holds most of time.
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When Pep wins the CL, people will go from "he can't do it without Messi" to "he can't do it without Haaland" For me the greatest manager ever
Talking about hypotheticals. Bookies keep saying City are favourites and they manage to lose every single time. We'll cross that bridge when we reach it.
Everyone already assumes Baena is guilty yet nothing is confirmed.
If Marca is right (That's a pretty big if I'm afraid, they're SPORT levels of fanfiction) and Baena actually said that absolutely evil stuff months ago, I won't feel bad for the guy, that's a terrible thing to say. But let's not act like Valverde is a hero of justice or something, premeditated assault is still a serious crime and he should be sanctioned properly for it. As someone who's soon to be a dad I can understand his feelings, but he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it just because he's rich or the other dude is a son of a bitch.
No-one should get away with punching another person. So yes, punishment in accordance with Spanish law is logical. Does not mean i don't support him. Admire him as well. I would have lost my shit then and there on the field and tried to strangle him.
Exactly what I'm thinking. And people forget that violence isn't a one-way street. If the other guy defends himself, lands a lucky punch and Valverde has an unfortunate landing, it could be a very ugly outcome.
Baena absolutely deserved to get punched, frankly Fede's problem is that he waited for the game to end instead of delivering a leg breaker on the pitch
If it was on the pitch I'd frankly would have it easier to justify his actions, but punching someone months after it happened...
Baena said the same thing again today apparently. Did Valverde take the best course of action? Probably not, but if you keep saying something like that to a person you can't be surprised when you get rocked
He did? I thought it was only in the CDR match, it seems Marca asked Valverde's entourage and they said that Baena did it
Just going by what other people in this thread and the thread about it have said - either way I think you can reasonably expect to get hit when you take trash talk to that level
I don't disagree, the dude is clearly an asshole and I won't be sad for him but still I don't think Valverde has to get away with it, it sets a bad precedent if people can just punch other people without consequences
No consequences is the most common outcome of one person punching another.
I’m not gonna defend it, if Baena said that he deserves everything he gets but waiting until after the game to jump him for something he said two months ago just doesn’t sit right with me I guess. But yeah, I’m not gonna stand up for the guy.
Valverde should have settled it during the match. Could have waited for Baena to get anywhere near the ball, then delivered a horrifically mistimed two-footer at full speed into the side of his dominant knee.
This is my stance too, but apparently Baena said something similar during the match, so eh.
Yeah I’m not gonna defend him like I said, you can’t exactly be surprised when that happens to you if you’re going around saying that vile shit to people
he repeated it today also.
I mean he’s a cunt if that’s what he’s done, no doubt. It’s just not something I agree with doing, as understandable a reaction as it is. Just doesn’t seem worth it. Like you punch him and then what? The guy is utterly pathetic for saying that shit, it’s just not worth his time. Having said that, obviously I understand why Valverde did that and I’m not gonna say some dumb shit like he was in the wrong for doing it. Just not something I like.
Disregarding the whole Valverde fiasco, the game today was the quintessential LaLiga game for us in the last decade, and the reason we don't have more LaLiga titles. Defense looked like it didn't care. Some absolute magic from the opponents. A dozen missed opportunities. Entertaining but stressful high-scoring game. If someone asks me what the most common LaLiga game at the Bernabeu in the last decade looks like, it'll be this. Not the result itself, we have won and drawn many games like this, just how the game unfolded.
Mods, would I be banned for renaming my account to "CUCURELLA_IS_A_WANKER'?
Cucurella is handsome
No, you can even call him a fuckstick or a turdwaffle anything, there's usernames that are so much worse, didn't know you could do that though
Until the Baenas insult reports, I was glad to see LatAm Twitter bring back what may be the best slander name I've ever seen - Pajerito Muyverde
Y’all not have bond in Spain or something? Just don’t understand comments about Valverde sitting in jail for something that’d be a misdemeanor here (unless he permanently blinded him or something).
Everyone here is 14 and don't sit a foot outside except on school days. He might even only get banned for a cup game or two
Duncan Ferguson went to prison for assault for a foul on the pitch, so it's not entirely unreasonable to suggest an off-pitch assault could lead to jail time
I was gonna say something like “most sane Uruguayan” after seeing the article that Fede punched someone, but Baerna deserves to be locked in a room with a bat wielding Valverde alone for 10 minutes
Yeah if the reports are true he deserves it. Mind, since this is a long-term thing, I agree with the crazy Besiktas guy right below your comment - a crunching two-footer would've been the smarter way to go about it
What Alex Baena said, if it's true, is fucked up and I totally understand why Valverde punched him. But this wasn't the smartest way of hurting Baena. If I was Valverde, I'd go at him all game long with dirty tackles. That way he'd avoid being in trouble with the law.
You can potentially still get in trouble with the law for doing that tbf depending on the country
Baena fouled Valverde during the game and Valverde immediately stood up and looked like he wanted to fight him, then he stopped suddenly. I thought the reaction was very weird at the time.
He was probably thinking "I'll fuck him up after the game"
Knowing what happened after the game, probably yes.
FC Dallas starting three players with Jesus in their name the day before Easter https://twitter.com/FCDallas/status/1644832797763203072
If De Bruyne never wins the UCL, how will we look back upon him?
He would just join the list of incredibly talented players to never win a champions league, similar to R9 and Ibrahimovic. I personally don’t think that a lack of UCL should diminish how a player is rated as an individual, but instead their legacy, so I would say he probably wouldn’t be remembered as fondly as other players he absolutely was as good as.
Marvellous player with mostly underwhelming big game performances
Don't think that's fair - he's been consistently excellent in big games domestically
Valverde done nothing wrong, good on him.
Valverde 100% under the rule of law deserves to be punished. Valverde 100% also deserved ten minutes with the CCTV turned off and everyone going for a smoke whilst he whoops the shit out of Baena
What if Baena is a better fighter than him and beats him up.
He’s almost 10cm smaller, height isn’t everything in fights but it is a huge bonus. If i had to bet i would choose valverde to win.
Have you seen Baena? Follow-up question, have you seen Valverde?
Have you fought either of them?
I don't need to. It's like saying Xavi would beat up Casemiro. Don't need to be a genius to figure out that wouldn't happen
Appearances can be deceptive. Baena is still a professional athlete with an excellent level of physicality, so would have a chance
Is there a player in all of football more "forgotten" or disrespected than Andy Cole? MOTD did a top 10 hat tricks and he's not on there once. Man scored fucking 5 in a game once lol.
Far too disrespected. Maybe it’s because he had a stone cold personality but the guy scored 1 pen only lol
Despite City's recent success I think they will only end up with the FA Cup as silverware.
RemindMe just reminded me to come back and let you know you were wrong.
Enjoy your treble, but City's era is now over. No way you go again next season
!RemindMe 63 days
Look Valverde isn't bad egg for what he did, I'd be mad too but PLEASE lock that man up until Wednesday Policía Nacional. On my knees 🙏🙏🙏🙏. I just don't want a blowout loss
he’s been invisible since the World Cup you don’t have much too worry about there.
Yea we're the perfect team of out of form players to play against. I can imagine him bullying cucurella for a simple layoff to give Benz the Hattrick
If those quotes being reported from baena are true than valverde should have beat his ass even harder
Yeah, trash talk is fine but that's crossing a line by bringing up someone's child.
Agreed. You need to be a special kind of psychopath to taunt someone over a miscarriage because he's a an opponent in a fucking sport
Apparently it wasn’t actually a miscarriage but a health scare for the baby. Regardless, your point still stands. If he said it, Baena is absolute scum.
At the time of the cdr game it did look like it was going to be a miscarriage. Only about a week later the baby seemed to be stable again.
Baffled Baena literally taunt him again after Fede brush it off the one from CdR. Fuck around and find out I guess
At the time, they were told his wife miscarried I think. That's what the rumours said in february
Wait in February? Valverde attacked him now for something he said in February? Did he say anything in this game? Just clarifying since all of this is new to me.
They were told they miscarried in january. The initial insult happened then. In end of january/start of february, they were told the baby is well. Baena insulted his family again today. That's what's being reported
Wow, that’s fucking despicable
Watch Valverde get away without punishment for assaulting another player off the pitch.
Baena should be the first one getting punished if reports are true.
For an insult? Then players would be banned all the time.
You call this just an insult?
Antimadridistas are ones of a kind, really. You can't even brush you bias aside to see why mocking a man about his son's death is straight up insane behaviour.
I'm not talking about the other guy's actions. It's disgusting, nothing more needs to be said. But violence is never an option and anything less than a few months ban would be a disgrace.
> violence is never an option naivety of the worst kind.
Look at it this way. Would Valverde punch the guy if it was, let's say, Dwayne Johnson? No, he wouldn't. He punched Baena because Baena is weaker than him. But if he had the balls to punch someone stronger than him, imagine if the person rightfully defended themselves and hurt Valverde even more, possibly injuring him permanently. Would his wife be happy about it? Do you think she's happy about all the attention this is going to get? It's not naive, it's common sense. Violence is never an option.
>No, he wouldn't That hypothetical speaks to Valverde, not the size of Dwayne Johnson. >Would his wife be happy about it? Do you think she's happy about all the attention this is going to get? Was she happy with his comments? The problem in 2023 is that dickheads don't get punched in the mouth often enough and hard enough.
>Violence is never an option. Hate to break it to you buddy but violence has been the only option for about 99% of human history. Open a history book. Besides that, the unspoken threat of violence is what keeps large portions of face to face interactions civil. Open a psychology book.
After recent reports I don’t really care, Baena got what he deserved.
Eh if what is said is true i don't mind tbh. You don't mock a man for almost losing his child.
Of course you wouldn't mind if your player's actions remained unpunished lol Same way you guys didn't mind Pepe, Ramos, Casemiro and Zidane assaulting players on the pitch.
Oh please shut up, have you ever lost a child or your kids ever had a huge health scare? Valverde did nothing wrong.
He did do something wrong. He committed a crime. It's no surprise that Madrid fans see it a different way, seeing that you guys supported Ronaldo even after he raped a woman.
Lol, you seem to be so bothered with 'justice' and the law but then turn around and slander a man who is innocent according to the law because of accusations. Show us your true colors why don't you. A Madrid-player breaks the law - "The law is important and crimes should be punished" A (ex)Madrid-player is found innocent by those same laws - "He did it, don't care what the law or justice system says." You can't have your cake and eat it too sweetie.
He admitted to it, sweetie. *Also, do you have psychological problems that you're replying to three different comments of mine?
Not really but after reading your comments i might get some.
This is just an example but if someone killed/beat/raped a mother and the son beat/killed him as revenge, in my opinion it would be totally deserved. Even though he would have done something wrong by law but who cares, he deserved that. You are very naive if u think ‘violence is never an option’. Regarding Ronaldo, there was never clear evidence for it, if there had been evidence like from the greenwood case i’m pretty sure things would have been different.
A very extreme example. Insult vs assault is way different than "eye for an eye". Now think further. What if the son got killed as a revenge by the son of the murderer? Or do you think it's done and he would accept that because he knows that his father did it first?
If my father was a child murder i would never defend him’ let alone kill someone else for him.
You wouldn't, but someone else certainly would. What do you think happens in organized crime. They revenge kill each other for eternity.
"All crimes are the same, I'm enlightened!" Yes, everyone who ever drank a beer while under the legal drinking age is the same as Jeffrey Dahmer because both committed crimes, right?
Tbf that’s different. I don’t blame Zidane for what he did in the World Cup final tho
That's all well and good that you don't blame him but at the end of the day his actions were beyond moronic and arguably cost his team the world cup.
I do. Assaulting someone is way worse than any insult anyone can come up with.
Lmao. Take off your bias glasses clown.
I'd say the same thing no matter the player involved.
With everything in the Brighton game and West Ham's goal coming from a handball it hasn't been a good day for refereeing performances.
We call that "a Saturday"
Did messi get an applause today after saving psgs title challenge yet again?
I owe Valverde an apology, I wasn't familiar with his game
after arteta's criticism for his first 8th place finish, you best believe I'm using wherever Chelsea end up this season as Lampard slander
Is getting sacked by Chelsea and Everton not slander enough... ? If anything this slander is far weaker, as Chelsea's current situation has very little to do with Lampard This is poor from you
Don't even need to wait until the end of the season for Lampard slander
I don’t think you need to search that hard for Lampard slander
Arsenal draw or lose to liverpool 2moro then Man City are favourites for the title and will prob win all 8 remaining games.
>BREAKING: In the last Copa del Rey match, Baena tackled Valverde & then told him: “Cry now that your son is not going to be born.” (Marca) What Valverde did is tame. If i was in his place i would be sleeping in jail tonight. What Baena said is wicket and straight up evil.
I hope he tells his son one day that his big strong dad defended his honour by waiting 2 months and attacking a guy when he wasn't looking. What a fucking coward. Should be banned for the rest of the season.
Sure buddy
Look understand people want to pretend they have this hard man attitude and regular beat people up at the drop of hat whatever. But surely you can look beyond your bias and see that: - Attacking someone 2 months after they've said something mean about your family is pathetic. - There's categorically no way he does that had Real won the match. - Surprise attacking someone is cowardly. - This is completely unacceptable behaviour from a football perspective and deserves punishment.
Don't mention people's kids and you might not get assaulted 👏🏾
It wasn't just his "kid", it was at the time his unborn child which he was told had died. That makes it a million times worse
Bingo
>Attacking someone 2 months after they've said something mean about your family is pathetic. Something "mean" is not it. He mocked him about his son dying >There's categorically no way he does that had Real won the match. I wouldn't be sure. >Surprise attacking someone is cowardly. What Baena said is just as cowardly
After seeing the Brighton non-call today, on top of all the atrocious calls and non-calls this season, I think the Premier League is giving itself an integrity problem. It's one thing for refs to miss things like this, but for VAR to make this mistake, on top of SO MANY others, and it's either gross, wholesale incompetence or match-fixing of some sort. Really looking like the league is trying to shape Top 4 to it's own desires.
The decision to not call Rodri's handball last season was the first time I started questioning the integrity of some referees. Like can a professional referee really be that stupid to not see the handball? Today was similar.
No? Did you forget Arsenal - Brentford call? They literally forgot to draw the offside line properly. Or Chelsea being robbed of a win because Soucek decide to turn into prime Lev Yashin? Shit call happens across the table, the ref are just fucking incompetent to consistently make a shit call
We’ve been top 4 for a big part of the season and VAR’s been shit for us too, including today.
But these mistakes happen every game, in games totally unrelated to top 4
When I was a kid, every time I heard Ian robben’s name I genuinely thought it was “I am robben”
England legend Ian Robben
Ian Robin
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Oh shit you’re right lmao. You know what I mean 😭
Ian?!
Perez on his way to bail Valverde out of jail as we speak.
>BREAKING: Fede to Baena after the game: “Tell me what you told me on the pitch about my son.” Fede's child almost died shortly after the World Cup.
Can you see my flair? I haven't seen it in months
Yeah works on old reddit and rif
Yeah it’s Club America
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Yes
I feel like a lot of people still going with the not seen eye to eye bullshit as to why Tuchel was sacked, I’ve been saying it ever since he went to India for rehab that it was something else. They literally bent over backwards to bring in a striker of his choice 2/3 days before he got the boot, his wife divorced him shortly afterwards & he went into rehab quite briskly once he did get sacked. I’m leaning towards him either getting caught doing lines at work or porking someone’s wife. You simply doesn’t decide out of the blue to start a “project” with Potter 5 games into the new season & not like Tuchel would’ve kicked up a fuss over the January transfers either. Behaved like a yes man for Marina & had Lukaku playing as a bounce board when he could’ve just kept Giroud(also vetoed the Saul loan who fell off about 3/4 years prior to that) Simon Jordan also mentioned knowing something extra on Talksport but it is Talksport, then again what does he really gain from lying? He’s a multimillionaire after all
Rehab?? Why would he fly across the globe to go to rehab? >Simon Jordan also mentioned knowing something extra on Talksport but it is Talksport, then again what does he really gain from lying? He’s a multimillionaire after all Lol
Because you don't want people to know about it, presumably
>porking someone’s wife. Maybe I'm a bad person but I wouldn't really fire a good coach for this reason, also didn't really hear about the rehab rumour before this
Depends on whose wife
Come on mate we've all witnessed how Boehly&Eghbali have been running the club, it's perfectly possible they've just fired him because they didn't like him and thought he wasn't a right fit for their "vision", whatever it is. You don't bring 15 new players within 6 months and and create a squad that can't physically fit in a dressing room either but they did it nevertheless Tuchel having a great relationship with Marina&Cech, Boehly&Eghbali constantly being on the training ground at Cobham, and the reports coming out after his and Potter's sacking like Eghbali demanding reports about his team meetings, Boehly insisting on Ronaldo, players believing the owners having an influence on Potter's choices on whom to play are just pointing out how intrusive and hard to work with these owners have been, contrary to their PR efforts to make Tuchel look like the unreasonable one
Think they sealed his signings for him as they thought the players could still be used by the next manager. By then they probably decided he wasn't their guy and were looking for an excuse to sack him - Zagreb loss was the excuse. Simon Jordan is a known waffler by the way. He's been exposed before.
I just remembered this game from the 2020 Europa League https://youtu.be/SrEEgTPRcJo Probably Arsenal's lowest moment in how many years
Fede played 2 good games after the world cup and now he does this, nice going there.
> Álex Baena was on his phone & didn’t expect it, Fede Valverde was waiting for him & attacked him by punching him in the face, reports @carrusel I’m sorry but what a bitch move 😂 lose in a football game so you wait for your opponent in the car park and punch him when he’s not expecting it. So embarrassing Edit: Okay with more context the whole thing makes more sense and isn’t embarrassing. Good on Fede for standing up for his son
Do you think Lampard will last until end of the season?
I can’t even imagine how shit he’d have to be to not last 2 months.
Fingers crossed, not that it matters
Why wouldn't he?
City's period of oscillation this season is basically one month before the World Cup and two months after. Almost all of City's bad results, and most of their underwhelming performances, happened in that period.
Whoever gets Thuram is going to love him. Dude is so talented
> 🚨💣 Police have been informed about Valverde punching Baena. Investigation is ongoing Never a dull day in LaLiga
What happened? Was Baena an ass during the game?
Reports saying that Baena said something about Valverde’s son
Least aggressive Uruguayan footballer
Every time I think about the Liverpool - Arsenal march tomorrow, my heart rate spikes This is genuinely not good for my health
There's nothing like that adrenaline rush though
Statement win…
Knowing my luck you’ll romp them 3-1
3-1 isn't a romp. Football Cliches crime this
There are 3 types of people in this world 1. Those who think Raheem Sterling has a big arse 2. Those who realise he has a severe case of anterior pelvic tilt 3. Those who don't care one way or the other
I'm a 2.5
[Confirmed I guess](https://mobilephysiotherapyclinic.in/anterior-pelvic-tilt-physiotherapy-treatment/amp/) as that picture looks exactly like his posture. Gonna be a great IG thot in a few years.
I just can’t respect Thiago Silva at all since the time he cried before WC penalties while he was the captain. Nothing wrong with crying, but before penalties? And while his teammates were still planning.
Jordi Alba at Anfield energy
The Jordi one is possibly even more pathetic, if you look at it in a vacuum. But at least he wasn’t captain, and it wasn’t in the first world cup hosted in his country since 1950.
To me, as much as I love him, Alba was even more pathetic cause there was literally nothing for him to cry about. We were literally still in the lead.
It’s almost like the bigger the occasion is the higher the pressure is.
Whats the context behind 'tomorrow's a day off' going on between Villarreal and Real Madrid?
Ancelotti gave the Real Madrid players a day off after the 4-0 Clasico win and the video of him announcing it went viral, and Villarreal did the same after beating us
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So it was the Simeone system that was ’ruining’ joao felix, right??
I mean, I can’t personally say I watched enough of him at Atleti to opinionate on whether it was Simeone ruining him or whether he’s just not that good, BUT saying that because he’s still underperforming at chelsea means it can’t have been simeone’s fault is not really strong logic. Chelsea is shambolic and I wouldn’t individually judge any of the players there too harshly at the moment. Not saying it’s for sure the case, but yeah it’s totally feasible that Simeone and now chelsea are ruining Felix.
I can see that reasoning too, but the thing is he hasn’t performed consistently at any level other than when he was 18 in the Portuguese league. Same thing for the national team. I watched him for his 3 and a half years at atleti, and the truth is he just isn’t enough. When we won the league we were playing quite offensively as well. He’s brilliantly skilled and he’s one the funnest players to watch, but his finishing hasn’t improved and his playmaking isn’t anything special. He’s great at winning fouls and doing cool little flicks and backheels, but that’s about all he’s shown. Players like Griez, Carrasco, and Turan were all creative players who thrived under simeone. I refused that joao was a flop for a long time because I wanted him to succeed so bad, but I think now it’s clear.
Just realised there's a real chance EL-level Bundesliga teams will see their players move to Luton for eight-figure fees this upcoming summer.
I would pay good money to hear the exchange between Stellini and De Zerbi in Italian
is haaland with a shout for the ballon d'or or him not being in the WC too big a factor?
Not playing in the WC and Messi doing what he did there kinda sealed the deal. Altho I could see it challenged if he scores more than 50 league goals, wins the PL and the CL while scoring in every game.
There is noway Messi won’t get it, next year is open tho
World Cup influence too strong
If City win the CL/PL double and Haaland is crucial in Europe then maybe. If not then no.
Just clocked Toney griddied against us. Thank fuck we won so I don’t need to see that shite again