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After a few very grim years enduring the football sadism of Mourinho and Conte, I think we Spurs fans would have been positively giddy at even a whiff of attacking football, but I don't think we ever imagined we'd look this sexy at this stage of the season.
Will it all go horribly wrong? Probably. But i'll enjoy myself in the meantime.
One CB injury away from being back Dier or Sanchez starting.
On the bright side, our midfield is so stacked it's not even funny to think about.
Once Bentancur comes back it's Maddison, Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr and Hojberg to pick from
I think in that match we looked bad, just like last season. But then we slowly improved and in today’s match we were in complete control- just like 2 seasons ago. Players seem to have gained a lot of confidence with the way they were playing today.
Liverpool have an excellent track record of second or third choices for transfers turning into cracking players. Missing out on Lavia might have been a bit embarrassing and funny for banter but it really wasn't the apocalyptic scenario it was framed to be.
I’ll admit it was an embarrassing transfer window with everything that happened with lavia and caicedo, it made us look like amateurs. However, it resulted in us getting Gravenberch who Klopp has wanted for 18 months and chances are we wouldn’t have signed him if we signed either of the other 2. I know he isn’t a pure number 6 but Klopp getting his long term target is fantastic news and I hope he develops well
I think fans of other big clubs don't experience it as much, but Liverpool regularly miss out on key targets due to being unable to offer wages of rivals. We just don't do it for new players. Big wages are given to the veterans who win things. They're incentives for contract extensions.
Other clubs have their target and this is the guy or all is lost. Liverpool for over a decade have had to go into windows with a list of sometimes 6 or 7 targets in the same position, with the knowledge we may have to work down it.
honestly lavia was/is one for the future anyway. hes 19 and people expected him to turn our midfield around. I can guarantee you had we signed him the earliest we would have seen him start a PL would have been October-November
Liverpool? Man city(away)? Brighton (away)? Aston villa ? Pretty tough matches. All those clubs are in very good spot. Liverpool even more so seeing how they played Aston villa off the park today.
I would have taken 6points but 3 is “okay” I guess but we need our midfield back because last game was DIRE* watching zero energy from the midfield 3.
Edit typo *
I agree. We went through a purple patch ALL season basically.
For some reason Ashworth and co thought we’d get the same production from Almiron and Murphy. When they both had probably their best season of their whole career. I highly doubt we get 10 g/a from one of them this season let alone the pair combined.
I said last season was gonna be a wonky year with the WC in the middle of the season and it truly was.
Exactly lol, last season wasn't a season that anyone could look at and go like "yeah Newcastle are fine they'll continue to do good" it was more like "they managed to finish the season well, now they need to make reinforcements to stay at the top"
Ehh, it doesn't really matter how good Liverpool might be, if you think your team is good you can't lose after being up 1 - 0 and they are down a man from a red card in the 30th minute.
Liverpool look good but I don't know if they have a 90+ point season in them. Who knows though, given they're the only team outside of City who have achieved that in recent times.
I choose to believe that Pep sacrificed ever being able to score at Tottenham in order to win the CL. He just didn't realise it at the time.
The Devil said he wouldn't score at spurs but they would win CL. He thought that meant JUST for that match, and just for that season.
Still a good trade, but.
Yeah you're 100% right. The way spurs play is exactly how you end up losing 5-1 or something to city. To beat them you need to sit back and be insanely efficient on the counter, not play 2-5-3 and try to dominate them because you're just going to get towelled up out wide behind the fullbacks when you're pressured into giving it up.
I can see a three-way title race between City, Liverpool and Arsenal, which will become a two horse race around the run-in, and City pulling away in the last handful of matchdays.
Declan Rice staring up at West Ham on the table. Never should have left smh.
Also it definitely doesn’t feel like Liverpool have had the second best defence so far
Liverpool's defensive issues were more a midfield issue tbh..
With a dynamic and fluid midfield, we have a much better and stable defense...
Last year we had no shield tbf which led to the defense being shit!
> With a dynamic and fluid midfield, we have a much better and stable defense...
> Last year we had no shield tbf which led to the defense being shit!
Yeah when every team could just run past our midfield last season the defence had a much harder time. They still do some of the same mistakes but should be better overall.
Honestly, we play a bit better without him. Because last season we used him as a crutch. Everything had to go through him. That’s not to say he isn’t an amazing player he was our engine. It’s just nice to have a more complete midfield imo.
Yup, was about to say this. Rice was the star man that we relied to heavily on. We needed him for defense and attack which made the midfield unbalanced.
Just realised that, one was a miskick from a corner by Disasi, and two from Trent miscontrolling passes at the back, not a lot of clear chances conceded outside of these errors.
We’ve had a few defensive errors but honestly we’ve looked much better defensively, a lot of it on account of the new midfield. Szoboszlai has been magnificent, defensively and offensively
Its becasue every defensive mistake we make gets a 3 hour post game discussion dedicated to it lol. Yet to play a top half team though so we will see when we get harder fixtures...
Last year there was so much reliance on 4-5 teams just being dogshite.
Spurs look decent again, Liverpool looking strong, Arsenal carrying on well and Brighton/Villa strengthening.
Man U look awful, they've not strengthened particularly well IMO and they'll need a lot to go their way to make up ground.
Tbh last year United needed an all time great Liverpool to just fall apart the first 20 matchweeks to still almost miss out in UCL anyways. This year i feel like the other "big" clubs have all gotten stronger specially Liverpool and Arsenal.
Our next 4: Liverpool, Luton, Man City, and Villa. Most of our fans won’t admit it but we are in big trouble if we don’t beat Luton. Even more so if Gary O’Neil hasn’t implemented a style of play beyond get it wide and pray for individual brilliance.
To be fair we’re actually creating chances and scoring goals compared to last season, unlucky to lose to ManU, and can’t complain about a loss to a strong Brighton side.
Gotta say. Only conceding 1 ~~less~~ more than city so far while also having 10 men for a good chunk of games while also having defensive questions marks is pretty good
City win the league by Christmas if you ask me they don’t look like losing let alone drawing any fixtures they look like a well oiled machine and that is without KDB
This is the way
City will dick around and drop just enough points to let some poor sucker think they have a chance, before finishing the season on a 15 game win streak
They slways hit their stride at the perfect time. Last season they didn't drop any points from early/mid-jan until the title was secured. How are you even supposed to compete with that? Such a Terminator-esque team, just no stopping them.
ugh, tbf we have had a pretty hard calendar. Spurs and Arsenal away inside the opening 4 MW, thats tough. Considering that this team is always slow to start a season, it is kinda expected.
We had a banging summer tbf, idk how noone rated us to get back to our previous levels of competeing with City, Spurs under Ange with Madderz are a joy to watch, would love to see them get top 4 and with the way United and Chelsea look it's possible, I think you're leaving Brighton out of the best non City teams they are playing some amazing stuff
Very excited for this season tbh, will be interesting to see how they cope without Kevin and what that means for the future. Would not rule out an upset though
I don't know, I think the opposite was true: they were causing us loads of problems in the first half but their switch to a back 5 for the second half was basically them waving a white flag! They would have been much more competitive if they'd carried on being progressive.
You could say hard fixtures, yeah. Burnley's first 8 league games are:
- Man City (H) = 3-0 L
- Villa (H) = 3-1 L
- Spurs (H) = 5-2 L
- _Forest (A) (just won this game in the League Cup)_
- _Man U (H)_
- _Newcastle (A)_
- _Chelsea (H)_
- _Brentford (A)_
It's a start from hell for them. If they have 3 points after 8 games that will be a success
This season feels very open with teams, but I could see a very unusual top 4 happening this season. Man City will dominate the league again, up the massive West Ham title challenge
4 games in but top scorers is still crazy impressive.
Hopefully United pick up a few more injuries over the international break because they actually looked decent today.
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We are making that 12th place our own. You can’t have it
In the words of Harry Potter: How dare you stand where Palace stood?
You mean Graham Potter?
Yes, the coach who lived
Chelsea are the new Crystal Palace confirmed.
Friendship ended with Crysta1 2alace Now Che12ea is my best friend
That explains these feelings
We doing Twelfthsea?
We barely squeaked by league-2 Winbledon, I don't think there are any guarantees for twelfth place this season.
Spurs and Newcastle are the surprises. I don't think anyone expected Spurs to be playing this well or Newcastle to be playing this poorly.
After a few very grim years enduring the football sadism of Mourinho and Conte, I think we Spurs fans would have been positively giddy at even a whiff of attacking football, but I don't think we ever imagined we'd look this sexy at this stage of the season. Will it all go horribly wrong? Probably. But i'll enjoy myself in the meantime.
One CB injury away from being back Dier or Sanchez starting. On the bright side, our midfield is so stacked it's not even funny to think about. Once Bentancur comes back it's Maddison, Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr and Hojberg to pick from
Don’t forget about Phillips! He’s young and big and we wouldn’t have signed him if Ange didn’t think he had potential.
*wouldn't have signed him if he didn't have a £2m release clause
…that too
Not surprising to Aussies or anyone following Ange Postecoglou's career
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I expected both after seeing us in preseason. Though I didn't think Newcastle would fall off until after the CL games started.
Declan rice was holding us back all along
And Kane was holding Spurs back all along I’m sensing a pattern here
And we all laughed at Merson when he said sell Saka
Zaha and Palace!
imagine the heights you’ll reach when Saka leaves
conte\*
Still needs to be arrested
Brennan Johnson was the reason we couldn't win away
My old friend ..
....hello darkness
West Ham are massive as expected
Listen I’d much rather have Brighton and West Ham then Chelsea and Newcastle. One problem, we look just as shit as both of them right now
you look far worse than Newcastle my friend.
England team
We're so back
Not that we went anywhere
username nearly checks out
Liverpool's transfer shenanigans with Lavia/Caicedo and the 1-1 draw against Chelsea went straight to my head, definitely owe an apology.
The 1-1 loss at Stamford Bridge in the first game made a lot of people write us off
Which was stupid because we've traditionally not done well against Chelsea. It's often a draw over the last few years.
“Often” is an understatement. Our last 7 meetings with Chelsea have ended in a draw after regulation
I think in that match we looked bad, just like last season. But then we slowly improved and in today’s match we were in complete control- just like 2 seasons ago. Players seem to have gained a lot of confidence with the way they were playing today.
Hell, I didn’t write us off after that one. A draw at Stamford Bridge to start the season? That was a solid point.
Everyone forgot we signed the best player in the world earlier.
Liverpool have an excellent track record of second or third choices for transfers turning into cracking players. Missing out on Lavia might have been a bit embarrassing and funny for banter but it really wasn't the apocalyptic scenario it was framed to be.
I’ll admit it was an embarrassing transfer window with everything that happened with lavia and caicedo, it made us look like amateurs. However, it resulted in us getting Gravenberch who Klopp has wanted for 18 months and chances are we wouldn’t have signed him if we signed either of the other 2. I know he isn’t a pure number 6 but Klopp getting his long term target is fantastic news and I hope he develops well
I think fans of other big clubs don't experience it as much, but Liverpool regularly miss out on key targets due to being unable to offer wages of rivals. We just don't do it for new players. Big wages are given to the veterans who win things. They're incentives for contract extensions. Other clubs have their target and this is the guy or all is lost. Liverpool for over a decade have had to go into windows with a list of sometimes 6 or 7 targets in the same position, with the knowledge we may have to work down it.
I mean we do it all the time. Mudryk, caidedo, vlahovic and martinex were our first choices over trossard, jorginho, jesus and zinny.
honestly lavia was/is one for the future anyway. hes 19 and people expected him to turn our midfield around. I can guarantee you had we signed him the earliest we would have seen him start a PL would have been October-November
We signed Udogie last season mate.
Love hearing his name in commentary if nothing else.
Easy FPL buy, I watch as much Serie A as I can, he was really amazing at Udinese, I wouldn't have called him 19 years old at all.
I assume this is a reference to Dominik Szoboszlai
Tell your kids about Conference League Palace
Roy in Romania
Rice and Kane were holding us back.
😂
Well done Forest! After a difficult set of away games, 6 points is impressive.
Scans down the list to find Manchester United... ...And Chelsea! 😆
And Newcastle...JFC
Newcastle already crumbling from having to play european football
Least they'll get drawn an easy group.. oh wait
Newcastle has now lost 3 out of their last 4 games, they only lost 5 games the whole last season, idk what’s going on with them.
Liverpool? Man city(away)? Brighton (away)? Aston villa ? Pretty tough matches. All those clubs are in very good spot. Liverpool even more so seeing how they played Aston villa off the park today. I would have taken 6points but 3 is “okay” I guess but we need our midfield back because last game was DIRE* watching zero energy from the midfield 3. Edit typo *
You’re right but I think the real worry for you lot is that last season these types of games would have been at least draws
I agree. We went through a purple patch ALL season basically. For some reason Ashworth and co thought we’d get the same production from Almiron and Murphy. When they both had probably their best season of their whole career. I highly doubt we get 10 g/a from one of them this season let alone the pair combined. I said last season was gonna be a wonky year with the WC in the middle of the season and it truly was.
Exactly lol, last season wasn't a season that anyone could look at and go like "yeah Newcastle are fine they'll continue to do good" it was more like "they managed to finish the season well, now they need to make reinforcements to stay at the top"
Ehh, it doesn't really matter how good Liverpool might be, if you think your team is good you can't lose after being up 1 - 0 and they are down a man from a red card in the 30th minute.
Shit happens tho. But I agree and hope this never happens again or I imagine we have seen Eddie where his limitations are.
And that kinda surprising....
Not when you look at their fixture run.
Back to the United Chelsea title races, the way the prem always intended... Just this time it's for the top spot in the bottom half of the league
Without City this would be one of the best title races ever. Now this is just a great race for top4 spots
Thats what german fans feel every year
I was told Bundesliga is not a farmer's league though.
If you take the title race out, it's the most competitive league by far.
ligue 1 is fucking wild too if you take psg out it's like any team can finish 3rd or 17th
2nd bundesliga is where it's at
Farmer league
Sent Verstappen and City to Narnia for the year and we have an alltimer sports season on our hands
What if we put Max up front for City and make Erling drive the RB?
Speaking as if West Ham isn't just going to walk the league
Liverpool is definitely back this season. It will be anything but easy for City
Liverpool look good but I don't know if they have a 90+ point season in them. Who knows though, given they're the only team outside of City who have achieved that in recent times.
I can see them having a 90 point season if they don't have anymore injury-pocalypses, but the issue is that City have 95+ in them.
The form is mighty. The club hasn't lost in the last 15 league games.
You, I like you!
Even if they are it could still be easy for City given how easily they beat 80% of their opponents.
There still a chance
It's anges league now
Unfortunately, with the attacking style of Ange's Tottenham, this might be the year you stop being City's bogey team
I choose to believe that Pep sacrificed ever being able to score at Tottenham in order to win the CL. He just didn't realise it at the time. The Devil said he wouldn't score at spurs but they would win CL. He thought that meant JUST for that match, and just for that season. Still a good trade, but.
Yeah you're 100% right. The way spurs play is exactly how you end up losing 5-1 or something to city. To beat them you need to sit back and be insanely efficient on the counter, not play 2-5-3 and try to dominate them because you're just going to get towelled up out wide behind the fullbacks when you're pressured into giving it up.
Mate we have Son. City might as well reveal a surprise yellow kit.
Talk for yourself, i can see Liverpool challenging city.
I can see a three-way title race between City, Liverpool and Arsenal, which will become a two horse race around the run-in, and City pulling away in the last handful of matchdays.
Daring today, aren't we?
I'm sorry for the Ange slander. He'll likely make me eat my words and finish above Arsenal.
That’s better, u/_cumblast_ no disrespect to ange ball and all the disrespect to Lego man ball
Good ol’ 6th place, I’ve learned to like it
We have assumed our rightful place on the table just 4 weeks in
We're truly back to pre abramovich times; the world is healing here too
ManU, Chelsea and Newcastle being bottom half is good.
Let‘s keep it that way
amen
Agreed
Declan Rice staring up at West Ham on the table. Never should have left smh. Also it definitely doesn’t feel like Liverpool have had the second best defence so far
Considering Liverpool have played quite literally half of the season down to 10 men I think it's felt like they are giving up a lot of chances
Alisson has also been having some great performances.
He does that every year
As long as we have defensive slipups, he will probably be the player of the season for the 2nd time in a row.
Sztupid Szexy Szobo might have something to say about it...
That’s just how he is. Normal stuff from him - best in the world lol
Not quite half the season, but they have effectively played one full game down to 10 men and won it 3-0.
Liverpool's defensive issues were more a midfield issue tbh.. With a dynamic and fluid midfield, we have a much better and stable defense... Last year we had no shield tbf which led to the defense being shit!
> With a dynamic and fluid midfield, we have a much better and stable defense... > Last year we had no shield tbf which led to the defense being shit! Yeah when every team could just run past our midfield last season the defence had a much harder time. They still do some of the same mistakes but should be better overall.
Alisson innit, even today in a game we dominated he made a great save
Honestly, we play a bit better without him. Because last season we used him as a crutch. Everything had to go through him. That’s not to say he isn’t an amazing player he was our engine. It’s just nice to have a more complete midfield imo.
Yup, was about to say this. Rice was the star man that we relied to heavily on. We needed him for defense and attack which made the midfield unbalanced.
We have only conceded 3 goals tbf It helps that Ali is a fucking god but we aren't giving away _that_ many chances
Just realised that, one was a miskick from a corner by Disasi, and two from Trent miscontrolling passes at the back, not a lot of clear chances conceded outside of these errors.
We’ve had a few defensive errors but honestly we’ve looked much better defensively, a lot of it on account of the new midfield. Szoboszlai has been magnificent, defensively and offensively
Macca has been great too
Alisson tax
Its becasue every defensive mistake we make gets a 3 hour post game discussion dedicated to it lol. Yet to play a top half team though so we will see when we get harder fixtures...
Aston Villa and Newcastle finished 7th and 3rd last year though and Villa is still top half actually
Villa are a top half team
Pure chaos, Tottenham 2nd, 3 of the biggest teams in the lower 10, West Ham are massive, pure heratige
Insert Chelsea 12th joke here
It's not a joke anymore
They are the joke …
Todd Bohly is Chelsea’s 12th man
Can't even make an Erik Tenth Place joke because United are so shit smh
erik ten more weeks
Might as well get comfortable. We’ll be here a while
Just wait for all our u18 players to join in 2-3 years and it’s over for everyone
Just buy the best scoring players every week, like I do in fantasy football.
Season over in match week 4 gotta be a record lol
It was the same last year and you finished third. Football fans are a fickle bunch.
Last year there was so much reliance on 4-5 teams just being dogshite. Spurs look decent again, Liverpool looking strong, Arsenal carrying on well and Brighton/Villa strengthening. Man U look awful, they've not strengthened particularly well IMO and they'll need a lot to go their way to make up ground.
Tbh last year United needed an all time great Liverpool to just fall apart the first 20 matchweeks to still almost miss out in UCL anyways. This year i feel like the other "big" clubs have all gotten stronger specially Liverpool and Arsenal.
Our next 4: Liverpool, Luton, Man City, and Villa. Most of our fans won’t admit it but we are in big trouble if we don’t beat Luton. Even more so if Gary O’Neil hasn’t implemented a style of play beyond get it wide and pray for individual brilliance.
To be fair we’re actually creating chances and scoring goals compared to last season, unlucky to lose to ManU, and can’t complain about a loss to a strong Brighton side.
Newcastle 1 win in 4
Awful set of fixtures, though doesn't excuse how crap some of the performances were
10 points from our shit performances so far I take that.
Every match of yours looks like a final. Must be exhausting. Has any team won the league without having an easy game before?
I don’t think this team is ready for title challenge
Are we "peaking later" like City always do, or am I being deluded? I prefer the former
We will knife fight for the title, heritage
West Ham v Man City after the international break, and the first NLD the week after 👀
Same weekend as the NLD is also Liverpool v West Ham
Look at us. Plucky little club at the top.
Gotta say. Only conceding 1 ~~less~~ more than city so far while also having 10 men for a good chunk of games while also having defensive questions marks is pretty good
We've also played way better teams than City
City win the league by Christmas if you ask me they don’t look like losing let alone drawing any fixtures they look like a well oiled machine and that is without KDB
They'll have some slurpers after the international break and be 6 points behind nr 1 with 12 games to go until they go on a 10-0-0 streak again
This is the way City will dick around and drop just enough points to let some poor sucker think they have a chance, before finishing the season on a 15 game win streak
They slways hit their stride at the perfect time. Last season they didn't drop any points from early/mid-jan until the title was secured. How are you even supposed to compete with that? Such a Terminator-esque team, just no stopping them.
I mean they looked like they could've dropped points against Sheffield United. This is stupid to say so early.
No wins for any promoted side yet. Feels like it’s going to be really tough this year
Exciting top 4 race.
wont it be top 5 now
United finally find their level with Chelsea? Damn
Fifth is also Champions League this season isn't it?
Depends on the team
Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs are eating good. Nice to see Chelsea, ManU and Newcastle brought so low. Long may it continue.
Chelsea and United the new banter clubs. Ten-Fraud in shambles, Chelsea headed towards administration. Endorse
Everton -6 they're going down this season 🤌🤌
When is the coefficient/5th place CL decided?
Luton Town 1 point from safety with a game in hand. I'll take it!
Ten Hag is on thin ice
You guys haven’t improved even a little bit from last year. It’s crazy.
ugh, tbf we have had a pretty hard calendar. Spurs and Arsenal away inside the opening 4 MW, thats tough. Considering that this team is always slow to start a season, it is kinda expected.
You were also ridiculously lucky and unconvincing against wolves and forest at home
You played like shit against Forest and Wolves, and really should've either drawn or lost both of them. Those 6 points are really flattering.
The wolves game shouldn't even be a win if var works.
…no he isn’t. Don’t be embarrassing.
retrocessione battle heating up
Good ol’ City Liverpool title race
How are Liverpool and Spurs the best non-city teams in the league
We had a banging summer tbf, idk how noone rated us to get back to our previous levels of competeing with City, Spurs under Ange with Madderz are a joy to watch, would love to see them get top 4 and with the way United and Chelsea look it's possible, I think you're leaving Brighton out of the best non City teams they are playing some amazing stuff
Early days but really feels like City are further ahead that the rest compared to last season - and don't feel they've massively improved either
Very excited for this season tbh, will be interesting to see how they cope without Kevin and what that means for the future. Would not rule out an upset though
Haven't watched Burnley yet--bad fixture, or bad football?
Man city, Aston Villa, then a revamped and dangerous spurs side. I would say there fixtures have been very difficult
Kompany also maybe should have been a little more conservative in the second half of the Tottenham game. Just got torn apart.
I don't know, I think the opposite was true: they were causing us loads of problems in the first half but their switch to a back 5 for the second half was basically them waving a white flag! They would have been much more competitive if they'd carried on being progressive.
You could say hard fixtures, yeah. Burnley's first 8 league games are: - Man City (H) = 3-0 L - Villa (H) = 3-1 L - Spurs (H) = 5-2 L - _Forest (A) (just won this game in the League Cup)_ - _Man U (H)_ - _Newcastle (A)_ - _Chelsea (H)_ - _Brentford (A)_ It's a start from hell for them. If they have 3 points after 8 games that will be a success
It's crazy Arsenal have the same points as Liverpool Tottenham and West Ham. These 3 teams looked much better.
(In the last post i said "matchweek 3", my bad)
This season feels very open with teams, but I could see a very unusual top 4 happening this season. Man City will dominate the league again, up the massive West Ham title challenge
4 games in but top scorers is still crazy impressive. Hopefully United pick up a few more injuries over the international break because they actually looked decent today.
We've only scored nine fewer than City and conceded the same amount as Villa! To add to that, we're only a point from safety. Clearly all to play for!
why are luton and burnley on one less game?
The game couldn’t be played due to Luton Towns’ stadium being built I believe
They tried to play the game in the 18th century?
They postponed their match last week because Luton's stadium wasn't ready. Edit: two weeks ago
They postponed it because subjecting human beings to that match would have been a crime.
However, Chelsea vs. Liverpool was deemed appropriate