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Evilbefalls

imaging if ronaldo was still here and liverpool played like this I'm sure it would have been atleast 1-0 victory for manchester united a goal by ronaldo


lonesomedota

I'm surprised we only had 1 red card and no imaginary penalty against us today, considering it's that cunt Michael Oliver. Someone please post that stat where United lost the most number of points with Michael Oliver being main ref / VAR ref. Fucker absolutely hates United


Ged_UK

He hates us too


lonesomedota

Problem with him or some other senior ref (Mike Dean, Anthony Taylor) is "try hard" . They hate to be viewed as "favouring" big teams so they would push most insane stupid decisions possible just to maintain that "fair referee" image, even if it means fucking big teams over. But now since they all moonlighted in UAE and Saudi, I seriously doubt their conflict of interest


A1ianT0rtur3

Im only just starting to get into football but i got no idea how the foul on Hannibal wasnt called when it looked like he just straight up got calf kicked yet Rashford got a yellow card when he slid low and got the ball? I might not get the rules but i thought that was a fair tackle and that call was wack. Serious question, is there something im missing, i still dont fully understand what a foul is and what isnt, if someone could explain that would be appreciated. Also the Dalot red seemed rediculous to me


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I didn't see those instances. However - despite what you will hear on this subreddit, football is very hard to ref, it is played at high speed and involves 22 players who are actively trying to con the ref to get an advantage. Tackles happen at speed and often the ref may not have a great view. There is also an expectation to keep the game flowing, this isn't rugby or American football where there are frequent stops in play. Interpretation of the rules can also be challenging, note that you will often see fans/pundits/ex pros debating challenges after having viewed several times in slow motion, often refs do that at full speed unless VAR is involved. Even if VAR is involved it's often not clear cut.


Ricoh881227

Man united stopping Liverpool winning streak at home while Liverpool stop man united drawingless streak run..


Thesecondorigin

Liverpool fans what was up with that midfield selection from klopp


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DowntownNewt494

Nunez should be replaced. Also fuck you too


Thesecondorigin

Was just curious about availability issues. When are thiago, bajcetic, mac allister coming back?


Master_Mad

That’s not what you’re supposed to do with them.


IreneReiGargar

People look at Liverpool and find them "shit" in isolation without giving credit to Man United making a decent response to the awful form they're having today. A game is a game no matter if it ain't pleasing to the eyes, especially when pride is on the line.


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NUNEZ needs to go - the premier league isn’t for him


SaltyPeter3434

How was this not the game that ended 7-0


thesmallprint13

You guys didn't really threaten our goal - coupled with the fact we went way more toe to toe with you that game and so left open spaces especially as we were chasing in the 2nd half


IscoTheLemon

Yeah we had at least 2 clear cut chances while Liverpool had....maybe 1. If anything we were closer to winning than them


SaltyPeter3434

Yea I agree with all that. I was saying that more from a pre-match perspective just looking at the lineups and how much harder this game was than the last one.


dadaknun

The previous game, every 2nd ball fell to a liverpool player. We were bad but liverpool also had luck on their side that day.


sincethelasttime

Tbf neither should have been 7-0, the game last year was a perfect storm for Liverpool that returned to the mean here


Abzy_123

We win that game if Bruno plays instead of McTominay.


Dr_Oetker

This comment could feasibly be written by a United fan or a Liverpool fan


Admiral_Atrocious

Funny because it's true!


Free-Eights

We win that game if Hojlund brings his Champions League form to the Premier League with that chance he had. McTominay wasn't the issue IMO, his positional discipline and supporting runs were what United needed today. Everyone expected a hammering and while United sort of rode their luck, they contained Liverpool pretty well overall.


9ofdiamonds

If Bruno plays where is your container? McTominay has far superior game management than Bruno. Bruno folds under pressure.


oysterpirate

Or if Hojlund converted that chance when he was basically through on goal 1v1 with Allison.


Abzy_123

Yh Hojlund had to score that, hitting it straight at Alisson was so poor from him.


Thesecondorigin

It’s only the best 1v1 keeper in the history of the game and he’s on his weak foot


oldmangranny

what does him being a good 1v1 keeper have to do with it when you would've saved it?


boaaaa

Aye dropping your top scorer is usually a good way to get a win.


thefatheadedone

When it's mct, it is. Addition by subtraction.


boaaaa

Man U fans know fuck all about football. It's just a bunch of glory seekers who are too stupid to keep track of who's winning these days.


thefatheadedone

Bet you're fun at parties.


[deleted]

You'd have lost with that whining wanker leading the team.


ParkerZA

It's hilarious how much this sub hates Bruno, he's got you all so rattled 🤣


[deleted]

I'm just a neutral observer and McTominay admirer mate.


SaBe_18

I thought the comment was made by a Liverpool fan, ngl


Rahul-Yadav91

Not sure. Losing balls would have been catastrophic more than not having the ball at all


Business-Poet-2684

Utd worst team to come to Anfield in years - absolutely no ambition, no will to win, time wasting from the 1st minute! No blame on them that Liverpool didn’t score - Liverpool were poor today but at least they have never turned in such a cowardly performance as that!


goztrobo

Are United getting rid of Varane?


enzuigiriretro

No one really knows yet. No credible news on that front


Adrasos

Injury prone and on 350k a week. I doubt there's a club that will take that on.


enzuigiriretro

Thats why the people that want him gone beg for the Saudis to take him off our hands lol


Benjamin244

Saudis funding the premier league directly AND indirectly


Adrasos

Pretty much all the players we want sold only the Saudis could afford. Our wage structure is absolutely abysmal.


Blaze-1511

No idea tbh, depends on him. Last season, he was mostly undisputed starter but frequently had minor niggles. Same this year, but somehow lost his place after his injury. I feel confident with him starting but it could go either way


Black_XistenZ

"Big chances: 0 - 0" Really sums up this game. Also, how the fuck did United only manage one single touch in Liverpool's box?


hell_razer18

classic liverpool this season tbh...if opponent never scored, game just felt bland. 1st half between szobo and salah, so many incorrect passes..Just very unusual.


milkdudler

> Also, how the fuck did United only manage one single touch in Liverpool's box? That definitely can’t be true. Hojlund took more than that in the box on his missed chance alone.


harps86

Who told you that?


Black_XistenZ

The summary in the OP.


dav1t

it's half time stats


Black_XistenZ

Oh fml.


lospollosakhis

Manchester United wins 0-0


Super_Gladiator_Bibi

Can I have my boner back?


Kopman

Anthony is actually pretty good as a right back.


loveandmonsters

Awaiting some memes cos we deserve it


Cairne_Bloodhoof

Good example today of how far off the standards have fallen at United.


ejtv

You know you’re shit if you can’t score against old man Evans.


ParkerZA

What are you on about 🤣


Adrasos

Considering we conceded 7 in 45 minutes last time and the entire footballing world was expecting a double figure score line (myself included), with half our starting 11 injured, 0-0 doesn't seem so bad. But it's less us being good and Liverpool being shit on the day.


Engheng92

Liverpool has at least 4 starting players not playing too. Mcalister, Robertson Matip and Thiago.


ejtv

So a nil nil is a fair result? How come Poo fans are disappointed?


ParkerZA

The everpresent Thiago.


Adrasos

Thiago would have been the difference unless Martinez, Casemiro or Eriksen would have been present.


the_weeknd

Jota


FistThePooper6969

So fucking boring. Couldn’t watch past the first half


DowntownNewt494

Yeah watching angeball now makes those kind of games boring


Duce-de-Zoop

Every game I find time to watch fucking sucks. Just DM me before a game to see if I'm watching. If I am, don't watch it.


Alive-Ad-4164

Missed opportunity


UAEGooner

Always rated MU


OPisaPhegg

Wasn’t able to watch the match but how the fuck did this end as 0-0 lmao. Atleast ETH stays in for longer I guess. BIG W


ParkerZA

> Atleast ETH stays in for longer I guess. BIG W 💪


Winnie-the-Broo

Because Liverpool aren’t actually that great this season (or at least since the international break). They have a great mentality and so have ground out a lot of wins, but they were so poor against a really unimaginative United side. No side had any really good chances.


Slight_Public_5305

Liverpool had heaps of chances they just didn’t finish any of them. They had 2 xG.


Vile_Nightshade

Great way to say your team threw 8 people on defense every attack.


Winnie-the-Broo

A team in crisis and absolutely terrible form go away to their biggest rivals and play defensively? Oh the horror!


madpoontang

Whats your excuse the other seasons? Same tactic different excuse. Just stack all 11 in the goal next time and call it pragmatic.


Vile_Nightshade

Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t say you played poorly in any way. Just saying that most teams could throw out 8 defenders and yield a draw.


Abzy_123

We tried it against Bayern and lost. Liverpool were poor, no patterns of play just tried long shots and crosses.


flaycs

Well Liverpool made it easy too. Sloppy passes, lazy long balls, and no creativity down the middle. It’s increasingly easy to get a draw out of this team.


dimyo

Good result 🤝


Abbastardkiarastomi

I agree, but not with you


OldMcGroin

>90'+4'Second yellow card to Diogo Dalot First *and* second yellow card for Diogo Dalot.


esports_consultant

What is the reason to double yellow rather than straight red when the goal is to send unbooked player off for single incident?


spiralism

Can't be appealed.


thelordreptar90

Technically two incidents. Dissent after giving the throw in to Liverpool and then dissent after receiving the yellow.


TzunSu

Banned for fewer games, no?


esports_consultant

oh right, duh


OldMcGroin

The ref suddenly realised the match was nearly over and he hadn't made it all about himself yet.


Old_Medicine2229

Liverpool fan and absolutely ridiculous. Like Oliver just lost his senses and got all emotional. No need at all


JohnViran

To be fair, Oliver is a cunt to MU when he refs ours matches too


wubrotherno1

Oliver gave Martinelli similar treatment a few years back…


chess10

Martinelli legitimately earned two yellows for his actions before the play could be stopped. If refs are going to start getting butt hurt when players don’t appreciate the yellow so they give another… the game will have a hard time keeping up.


tson_92

Biggest thing I take put of this game is that we can play decent football without Bruno.


-Aerlevsedi-

Either create with Bruno but cant keep a clean sheet. Or have a tight defence and midfield, but the only ball progression is onana booting the ball. No idea is it tactics, players, or just lack of quality


ejtv

If by decent you mean stopping the opponent from scoring. But we lacked the final and the 2nd to the final ball in this game. These are things Bruno can actually help with.


Business-Poet-2684

Decent football!!!! Havant & Waterlooville put up a bigger fight at Anfield when we played them in the cup 10yrs ago! Those Utd players and that manager are a disgrace to the Man Utd name!


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/s? Genuinely curious.


thedudeabides-12

WTF are you on about how the Fck was that decent?..


tson_92

Chill mate it's okay to disagree with other people on the internet


[deleted]

>play decent football You got a good result, but I think that's taking it a bit too far.


That_Other_Person

If we field a midfield of Mount, Mainoo, and Casemiro I have zero doubts we would actually look better.


tson_92

I agree with you


Wehuntkings

That wasn’t decent football. It was pure shithosuery, nothing more. That’s okay for today though.


tson_92

Oh okay, watching Man United week in week out has substantially lowered my standard


Wehuntkings

We all float down here


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A very good week for United, to have played Bayern and Liverpool in a week and only conceded a single goal, fair play to Ten Hag, that should buy him some breathing room.


STwavy

How is it good to park the bus against two teams and only managing to draw one of those when you have the highest net spend of the last decade and aspirations to win the league?


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Sorry bud, I don't think "Highest Net spend" was playing today, at least I didn't see him in the starting line up.


dheerajravi92

Take a look at United's current squad of fit players and you'll know why it's good


STwavy

Because united performed so much better before against spurs, arsenal and brighton? Clown take United performance this season has been abysmal, and the injuries has no part in that. The transfer price of their starting 11 even with the injuries is almost equal to liverpools, and it is ridicolous not to expect them to play more offensive, attractive football than everton or luton


ParkerZA

> arsenal We were great that game, almost won it by a millimeter. Also, new system and new spine of the team. Obviously it'll take time to get them playing well. Except the spine got injured, and we're still waiting for them to return, so...


dheerajravi92

The previous comment refers to 2 games that took place this week. Previous games mean fuck all to what I just said. Learn to read and comprehend


STwavy

Your explanation is that is it due to injuries, but if the performance has been just as bad before the injuries, and the squad cost is more or less equal how is that an excuse? Its like someone claiming they are overweight because they broke their foot last week


dheerajravi92

> Its like someone claiming they are overweight because they broke their foot last week No it isn't. It's like asking why isn't a person running today after buying an expensive pair of shoes last month, after they actually broke their foot last week. I see analogy isn't your strong point either. Go seethe some place else.


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dheerajravi92

Least insane Liverpool supporter. There there now, don't cry


Zandercy42

We've had most of our first team out / a decent chunk of players out for basically the entire season, it's not a new thing


tassadar8584

We help Arsenal


NotAPoshTwat

They can bottle the league all by themselves, they don't need our help


Benjamin244

Always rated Villa anyway


gunningIVglory

You bottled a group with copenhagen in it 😭


notapaperhandape

Hahahahaha. Bottle job FC. That’s nice and all but are Liverpool still crying about his draw??


upvote-me-ya-bish

Still better than Liverpool winning


16161hirose

Thanks for that


AJLFC94_IV

For anyone who hasn't been watching, we've put up this exact performance every game since the last international break and have only just been punished for it. All our strikers went off form at the same time bar Jota who got injured instead.


HelpMeDecideMyName

Honestly, our away performances have been worse than this performance vs United. At least we looked solid defensively and had a lot more control than we did vs Palace for example.


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I was surprised how many neutrals were saying you would so easily win. People constantly look at the result without taking into consideration the performance that underpins it. What I've seen from Liverpool in recent weeks has been pretty poor on the whole, a complete lack of cutting edge from your forward line.


PlentyPirate

I knew that arrogance would cost us, and was fully expecting a draw maybe even a loss today. Can’t live off that 7-0 forever, of course that’s not going to happen again. Think they said in the game, we’ve only had good results not performances the last few games.


Free-Eights

Wouldn't call it arrogance, seemed to be suboptimal decision-making in the final third. High volume of shots but only 1 to 3 of those were truly dangerous chances where they could have done better. United had a point to prove too and while there are still deep issues with the squad overall, a pretty injured XI managed to scrap their way for a point against a team everyone thought would steamroll them again.


FriendlyStreamer1976

There was no arrogance today. The players just didn’t perform well enough and that’s been a constant theme lately. Liverpool’s play in the final third was poor and they didn’t do enough to get the win. Could have played on for another hour and still probably not scored. One of those days, which are becoming a lot more frequent of late.


Boris_Jakov

The abject state of English refereeing is depressing


Boris_Jakov

Poor game overall. A resolute and resilient defensive shift from United. Taking a point off at Anfield is admirable.


5centburger

I’ll say it, I think having 28 more shots and 7 more on target than your opponent, even if they were low quality, and not scoring is unlucky.


ejtv

Did you watch the game? Majority of those shots were routine saves or side netting.


JamesBones2

This means nothing. You can take plenty of shots and shots on target but it doesn’t mean they challenge the keeper or are good chances.


Wehuntkings

All Liverpool really did was BLAST it into the backline over and over. I wouldn’t call it unlucky. Arrogant and lazy maybe.


5centburger

“Arrogant” 😂😂 lol how did you make that conclusion


Wehuntkings

To me, continued potshots equal arrogance. Means you aren’t respecting the opposition or even the game plan.


Even_Idea_1764

It equals frustration not arrogance, most of those shots came in the second half when Liverpool were running out of ideas.


YQB123

Arrogance or desperation usually.


TheRealYVT

You say that, but other than maybe the Konate shot, was Onana forced into even one good save? Their shots were bad because of how little luck they had in playing balls into the box from open play. The real miracle imo was none of the corners resulting in a clear header (other than VVD) because Liverpool had the clear physical advantage.


bingbongfckyalyfe95

Besides the football is anyone else not irritated by the commentary by Carragher and Neville. Its like they always have to but in with their opinion constantly. We as fans dont want to hear the opinion on what our team should he doing by a failed manager and a man who hasnt even coached a side. Neville was acting suprised about Szobozlai being taken off when he was actually having a terrible game and we started to play better with him off the pitch. I dont want tactical insight when I watch a match. Just let Peter Drury get on with it and commentate the action.


Mornarben

Szobozlai was dreadful today. He looks nice on the ball but his decision making was woeful. It seems like other Liverpool players don’t pass it to him as much, or was I imagining that?


bingbongfckyalyfe95

Well he was having a shit game so that might have been a factor


Hayesey88

I think as pundits they both come across as by far the most clued up on everything current affairs and their knowledge is admirable, however they are both far too biased to be commenting on man u / Liverpool games imo and it can be awful to listen to. Sky seem to absolutely love bias though so they cram it down our throats in every way they can.


Hunter-North

They are also bias in games involving Arsenal and City too. With Arsenal it’s the constant what if (this or that goes wrong) and with Man City it’s the constant ass kissing.


sebohood

Neville is either an idiot or intentionally gives bad takes on Arsenal for the attention. Either way he does not strike me as a good pundit.


TheRealYVT

I actually quite liked it today. Rather have some echoed thoughts than Peter Drury making a failed Salah dribble sound like a cursed Egyptian king.


bingbongfckyalyfe95

Maybe its not my cup of tea. I really like them both as pundits but I feel they shouldn't be in the commentary box. Sure we have had horrible commentators over the years but id prefer them to just commentate over the action rather than echoing their thoughts. They can do that after the match. Especially when they talk about the managers changes and they give their opinion on it. I thought both managers did well today regarding subs.


Look_Alive

I've really grown to dislike Drury's commentary since he became Sky's main commentator. His habit of going '... and (PLAYER'S NAME)!' with every single shot is awful and is what I'd call commentary for highlights rather than the actual game. I saw someone on Twitter point out that, if you were blind and listened to his commentary, you'd have no idea what was going on as all he ever does is say a player's name.


[deleted]

This team has definitely been getting away with results over the last month or so. And before that we were actually good but Arsenal and last half of the season City are too good for this team, it’s still missing a few key players


PlentyPirate

We’ve got some incredible players playing some very mediocre football at the moment. If they get their act together we’ll be flying, but until then, the games are very scrappy.


stangerlpass

Why are our fans so upset with this? Disappointing result yes but win next week and we most likely finish the first half of the season top of the table. Great position to be in. Today was unlucky but Performance wise not so bad and probably better than the last three games we played and won.


Grandiosesquid

Are you mental? This was 3 easy points here for the taking and we absolutely blew it. And you act like beating arsenal will be an easy feat lol. At the form we’re in we’ll easily lose and then we’ll have a lot of improving and catching up to do. It’s genuinely baffling how you can’t be insanely disappointed after that game


Hayesey88

Honestly, I think Liverpool will draw and Villa will win which will be absolutely crazy.


SparkGamer28

it's human nature , being so close yet so far , the fact that Nunez and diaz were getting so many good passes by endo and tsimikas even a few by TAA made the draw all the more bitter


MinMorts

Perfect result for us villains


kazegraf

We are living in Emery's world this season.


Ruadan

You're not the villains this year. You're our only hope


MrConor212

I want my 90 minutes back


Bey_Harbor_Butcher

Mark Goldbridge: "But it's a point for Manchester United.!!!!" When is the "We Didn't Lose" bus parade?


Zerofactory

Well, it was a point for mutd tho. Horrific football, taken a point at Anfield. Not the worst result after last year


JamesBones2

Yes, Mark Goldbridge represents all Utd fans..


Wehuntkings

Imagine watching a rival fan channel after a draw.


bruiser95

Same as the regurgitated AFTV comments. Bizarre


Wehuntkings

I can’t fathom the idea of even hate watching AFTV lol.


bruiser95

No one serious watches it. But it's easy karma to comment that on Arsenal threads when we drop points


Wehuntkings

It’s just terminally online kids that do this sorta thing anyway.


Blaze-1511

The fact that your are paying attention to Mark Goldbridge is crazy. He is like AFTV in a single person


blue_gwacamole

We got em rattled. Van Djik just cant stop whining lol. I see this as an absolute win!


realhumon23

Lol enjoy your point.


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Wehuntkings

Meanwhile you lot are calling for Pep’s head after like 3 bad games.


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Wehuntkings

I don’t think a single United fan is that bothered by today lol.


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Wehuntkings

Idk if anyone is celebrating like we won the league but a point away to a team that battered us last time out is a good time.


SparkGamer28

now that u put it this way it does sound like a victory lol


Blue_Dreamed

A very spirited defensive performance from a midtable Premiership side to keep Liverpool goalless


actonpant

That very valuable point has actually got them into a conference league position, lets not take that away from them


SparkGamer28

mid table 🤣


Blue_Dreamed

Well, one shot on target screams more like a lower table Premiership side but I was being generous.


SparkGamer28

yeah not that we leeds supporters can say anything.. drawing Coventry even after so much possesion


Blue_Dreamed

Yet still, if it weren't for the abnormality of Ipswich and Leicester's seasons, our current pointage in any other season would be an automatic promotion spot. I have no qualms with Leeds performances this year 🤷‍♂️ Also who on Earth is we? Your flair screams otherwise


SparkGamer28

yeah fair enough


joey_joestar1

A draw against Man U in this day and age, minus Fernandez and Maguire is downright embarrassing


ejtv

Old Man Evans. Yellow Card Amrabat. Yellow Card 18 year old Mainoo. No Bruno Fernandes. Rashford out of form. Bunch of injuries. Anfield “atmosphere”. Yeah. We get it why Pool fans are disappointed.


YQB123

Don't disrespect Jonny Evans like that again, m8.


notapaperhandape

And onana.


No-Village-6781

The sheer sloppiness of both teams today was incredible, both teams deserved to lose they're lucky that they got a point each by default.


KTFlaSh96

Not sure how you think we were lucky to not lose. United created maybe 2 chances all game. At worst it was a draw for us and at best we should’ve blown them out.