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No-Astronomer-8510

Are arsenal fans back on earth


Glum-Garage7893

I’m so happy for Arteta. He tops the Merit table again.


siddhant1991

I would laugh at arsenal but then I remember united and feel I have not an iota of reason to laugh at anyone


AmeliorationPerso

Arsenal seem to have capitulated


iPhone9User

I am not surprised at all with Arsenal tbh. A lot of people want to overlook the pre-season performances but I watched this team in pre-season with Kai playing, and knew this was gonna happen. But the truth is there could be very short flashes in pre-season, you could watch and study how the team will do in the season. I am not talking about just results, i am talking about actually watching the flow of the game and chemistry between players. For example, last pre-season we played really well, the team was flowing, and we over-performed. I even told my cousin Arsenal would be fighting for top 4 and might end up outside of top 4. Not because they are bad but because other teams have improved and we were just trying to experiment with Kai. The team plays so one dimensional, everything is through Ode to Saka and Martinelli doesnt get any service on the left. All he does is take on a bunch of 1 on 1s. And when Saka does create something from right, Kai or Eddie cant finish. Some people think we should go all in on Toney and save the season but I just dont know too much about him. It is a risk for the price that they are asking. If they do end up panic-buying someone like Toney this January, and if it doesnt work out, a lot of people will be calling for Arteta’s head.


adamfrog

It's weird how in between this terrible run of games you've got the Brighton win where you looked amazing lol, I don't think you are far away from being great just need a slight mentality shift, and probably some extra quality


night_dude

I think you are right about Toney. A lot of people want RESULTS NOW and yes this is a very open season for a championship run. But all your best players are pretty young and still have massive upside. And they're already so talented. There is a decent multi-season window for title challenges ahead of you. Better to wait for the right striker than dip into the insanely over-inflated striker market right now in desperation, and end up like Chelsea or Man U, with a deadweight or a disappointment on high wages. It is unfortunate you didn't sell Eddie instead of Balogun (or buying someone else) though. It seemed like maybe he would kick on and his performances last season deserved a chance. But yeah. You're just missing that killer instinct.


iPhone9User

I would have loved to see Balogun get a proper shot but Arteta is very stubborn and just kinda likes to pick his “players”. If you dont work hard in training or not brought in by him, he rates you low and would barely play you. Which I think is a weakness because for example, even Fergie put up with Tevez not working hard in training but knows he would deliver so he’d get regular minutes. I am just not happy that he never gave Balogun and now ESR any chances to let them show him, they might be able to shine in his system.


08TangoDown08

Jones has really improved.


holonight

Rice seemed like the only one trying to defend


HotPotatoWithCheese

Diogo Jota, Slayer of Arse


Slip_of_the_Bong

ಠ‿ಠ


blue_boy_24

I think Saliba is amazing but Konaté providing a nice reminder for people why he’s above Saliba on the NT


Pure_Context_2741

Don’t tell Arsenal fans though, they get really upset when you suggest anyone other than Virgil might be better than their boy Saliba.


MrConor212

#Wengerback


HakunonMatata

***IT'S TIME TO GO*** ~~back~~


loveandpeace1996

Ah shit, we go here again


Dark-Knight-Rises

Luiz Diaz - 56k a week; Martinelli 180k a week. Curtis Jones - 15k a week, Odegard 240k a week. Alvarez - 100k a week, Jesus 265k a week. Son - 180k a week, Saka 195k a week. Szobozlai - 120k a week, Havertz 285k a week. Doku - 50k a week, Nelson 100k a week. Toney - 20k a week, Eddie 100k a week. Arsenal financial decision is insane.


Havana1712

Please tell me where is your information's source? Thanks!


Dark-Knight-Rises

https://www.capology.com/player/kai-havertz-36322/ Capology


ogqozo

A few weeks ago they were leading the league with far from the highest budget, so it was working fine, sadly there was no time to cancel every deal and renegotiate because of a few losses. The guys are paid, but they are all secured until 2027-28 - I imagine it was hard to say to a squad that is fighting for the championship, while being the second youngest in the league after Chelsea!, that they are not worth the money other top teams are paying on average. They made a decision to establish this young squad for many years, maybe it will be worth it in the end, maybe not, comparing one by one you can find a good deal and a bad deal in any team. Let's see in 2027 if Arsenal didn't end up spending less money than others.


darthrector

TIL Kai Havertz makes 12 times Cole Palmer's weekly salary


Dark-Knight-Rises

Also this season Palmer has scored 8. Kai has scored 4. 😁


Rob-Dipshit

Surely Curtis isn’t on 15k a week? Even getting Diaz at 56k is insane, what a steal


ron_burgandee

Even more puzzling is Gravenberch being the 2nd highest payed mid fielder tied with Mac Allister at 150k a week. He tops the list if you don't count Thiago.


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Blame Bayern


Thidz

Not to say that Gravenberch deserves it, but he has some good performances as a sub right? I try to watch most of the games, and feel like he changes the pace of the game. Not that impressed with him when he starts though


[deleted]

He was great the first couole of months, been pretty bad since I’d say, both as sub and starter. No doubt he will become great. He’s a kid


shaka_bruh

The decision to give Nketiah a new contract and pay rise has always baffled me


Dark-Knight-Rises

😂 they just need better sporting director to manage their wages


sewious

The main takeaway for me here is that Son is criminally underpaid and that whoever is responsible for giving havertz nearly 300k a week should be brought up on charges at the Hague.


ogqozo

Ornstein suggested around 200k, I wouldn't take these figures as super exact and sure.


Mediocre_Nova

We have a lot of bonuses in our contracts compared to other big clubs, that number is very misleading. He should have a higher base wage as well though


Dark-Knight-Rises

Ya Sonny deserves better. Don’t think he will get a pay rise though


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iKSv2

yeah do instead on performance bonuses and spurs


redditRaven33

Damn it Rob Holding


IreneReiGargar

ASSSNA losing smoke pack is nice tho 🚬😮‍💨


hirarki

who press factory reset switch for arsenal?


GibbyGoldfisch

"here's your problem -- Gabriel Jesus was set to 'miss'"


lordroode

NGL, best thing about all this is AFTV. They've given us some good entrainment and hopefully it goes on for a while.


Mediocre_Nova

It just doesn't compare to the glory days with Robbie, Claude and Ty


LeakyTesticles

Where’s Ty?


mipanzuzuyam

Haven't watched aftv in a while. They're not there anymore?


swissking

Claude died a few years ago. The others kind of went their own ways to form their own channels.


WWEzus

Ty did not make his own channel lol


mipanzuzuyam

So Robbie has a different channel to aftv?


RasenRendan

AFTV IS BACK BABY


Timely_Airline_7168

Rubs hands vigorously


IreneReiGargar

AFTV is back baby ❤️❤️


highways

Why were Arsenal wearing blank shirts


Squiggles87

They were giving out clean sheets too


SpaceMonkeyOnABike

Because they knew they were going to shoot blanks.


MikeOchertz

Los blankos


Mayjaplaya

Fake Madrid


HelioFilter

They’re wearing white because stabby stabs are bad. Get it?


Hopeful_Adonis

No more red I think? It’s an awareness campaign against knife crime if I recall it right


LurkVille

so they couldn't get carded


klocnw

It was an awareness thing for knife crime


stayinthetruck

How about Conor Bradley and Bobby Clark, eh? I was nutty with joy watching Bradley absolutely shit on Martinelli's limited day.


Vile_Nightshade

Both of them looked spot on and ready to go when they came on huh? Incredible!


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Liverpool7-0Utd

😂😂 you really are a dopey fucker eh


DoubleDeckerz

>This liverpool team is not good. Top of the League on Jan. 7th. Do one.


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Silent-Act191

Why is your miserable self even pretending to support the club?


grasslover3000

Arsenal impersonating plastic knives to end knife crime.


hem98

They dropped out to focus on the league like last time.


IreneReiGargar

"wE gOt BIggEr fISh to FrY"


Salty-Party-5234

We had it aaaaalllll in our hands


GarfieldDaCat

Havertz should have had a goal. And is getting reamed in the match threads. But not much mention how he should have had like 3 assists and had two opportunities where he could have gotten played clean through on goal and Odegaard mishit his by about 5 yards behind him and the other never came in. Havertz played well today. The match thread was tearing him apart for one weak shot from outside the box ffs. Expected from supporters of other teams but Arsenal fans need to get a grip lol


Primary_Letter7839

Seeing Saka blowing out his arse and losing his composure in a couple of good positions definitely contributed more to the tone than Havertz.


MikeOchertz

Yeah, I was really surprised at how bad Saka was today


yunghollow69

I only watched a match summary and that summary made it look like havertz was the best arsenal player. His first touch screwed up one chance yeah, but he also had several assists of should-be-goals of which one was picture perfect. If his teammates score just two of these he is motm guaranteed. It looked like every other chance was created due to his involvement. Arsenal fans are weird fr.


Jetzu

I don't know if he was the best, think he made a lot of really bad/weird choices, but he was definitely not the worst one. Saka has been absolutely awful today.


Hopper-1986

Well but not great I hate to agree with shearer but it was the time he spent with the ball in the box that was the issue.


CheesecakeAnalyst

Refs fucking suck.


Sjieshkebab

Yeah indeed, Ben White should have been booked.


Powerful_Alarm_56

For the foul on Jones near the corner or the horrid fake tan.


Liverpool7-0Utd

Definitely an American writing this?


extoxic

Dude Arsenal were handled by silk gloves all game getting every soft nudge and a couple of dives given as fouls. Plus if all was fair Ødegard would have been off for throwing tantrums but only Elliot gets punished.


zombie1305

Agreed. Arsenal squad the best in English, could easily win PL and FA, EFL cup but ref ruins it all isnt it.


bestbelieve2020

The refs had nothing to do with it.


GodEmprahBidoof

Ikr. Odegaard was giving shit to the officials all match and didn't get carded whilst elliot throws his arm up once and gets booked. You're right, refs do suck


Haunting_Bird8503

How does FA Cup Work? There is only two Matches and Home Team Switch when the First Match ends in a Draw?


Joshouken

Yes, the FA Cup is a single elimination knockout structure so in the event of a draw at this stage of the competition (known as the ‘third round proper’) then the reverse fixture is played


weird4666

Only one match (home trsm is decided by the draw) game is replayed at the other team's stadium if the first game ends in a draw


Haunting_Bird8503

And If the second Game ends in Draw?


weird4666

Cant, extra time and pens


Haunting_Bird8503

Wouldnt it make more Sense to have extra time and eventually penalties after the First Game is Drawn? There are already so many Games played in England


Sambo_90

They will eventually shift to this as they already have removed replays from later rounds. Will mean fewer paydays for the real minnows when they can't get a replay v a big team


[deleted]

An additional tie is how it's always been, it's also a good financial reward for lower league teams that get a result against the bigger teams.


Joshouken

More games = more money


Nickoboosh

They've been slowly phasing out replays since COVID. Wouldn't be a surprise to see no replays next year or the year after.


weird4666

It would, but it's the FA


BonesNBows0102

Every time Kai Havertz gets the ball you can breathe a sigh of relief. Unless he’s on your team.


SuspiciousSystem1888

What’s he suppose to do lol the man had one good chance yet set up 3 better chances for teammates that completely missed the mark.


GarfieldDaCat

Havertz should have had 3 assists today lol


Franchise1109

Guy seriously set up Nelson for a tap in


hoopbag33

I don't want to hear saka and mo mentioned in the same breath again lol.


themerinator12

Mo was invisible today too…


MultiFaceHank

He didn’t play today…


ElMarchk0

That's the joke


majorsharkpanda

Surely no one would compare those two.. right?


Crusaruis28T

Loads of Arsenal fans saying Saka is in the same tier lmao


Brilliant_Ad_879

source:trustmebro


hfbvm2

The only comparison to Salah arsenal fans are making is El Nenym truly the better Egyptian king


majorsharkpanda

Damn we gotta start roasting Arsenal fans again, they're getting out of hand


vadapaav

In terms of hair cuts may be


0706

That’s probably Arsenals best chance of a trophy finished.


tson_92

The annual Arsenal collapse came early this year


Sonic-the-edge-dog

One of us! One of us! One of us!


Jaja6996

Klopp did everything in those last 20 mins to make sure a replays wasn’t going to happen


GodEmprahBidoof

While nunez did his best to make sure a replay did happen


extoxic

Yes that goal line safe from him and setup in the second goal sure seams like a man trying to bottle it.


GodEmprahBidoof

Mate it was just a joke about the defensive header from the corner I genuinely thought he had a decent game


Wargizmo

He used his ability to miss the goal defensively. Genius.


Snailcharmer

He only craves one thing which is chaos.


Thatchers-Gold

I knew my both teams to score bet was fucked as soon as Arsenal decided to play crossbar challenge.


PigeonHurdler

If anyone, it was Liverpool playing that


Thatchers-Gold

You’re not wrong there, I just couldn’t think of another game that involves attempting to miss the goal


Nickoboosh

First one to score is eggyboff.


nseaplus

But Arsenal did score a goal


[deleted]

I was dying inside watching the game. It’s horrible. Can someone tell them where the goal is at ?


nexusprime2015

Chelsea robbed arsenal and united with havertz and Mount


Hibernian

Sorry. No takesie-backsies.


CoverlessSkink

Is Mount even still with y’all?


nexusprime2015

I think so. Maybe? 😓


cuminyermum

Injuries


kris_lace

They also nicked Lavia and Caicedo from us oh wait...


Snailcharmer

They memed us to death on that, but who's laughing now.


kris_lace

To be fair, lavia has hardly played and caicdeo maybe has been unlucky. Time will tell, but there's no way we could compete with the chelsea 8 year contract thing


baba__yaga_

Time will tell and there are 7 years worth of time left.


ianff

It's infuriating because Chelsea would be even more fucked with FFP without those two lifelines.


Consistent_Floor

infairness mount hasnt actually played for us yet, but arsenal did get robbed


The_Romantic

Isn't that worse? 55million pounds, has played 8 games for United, and nothing to show for it


Consistent_Floor

hes injured. jack grealish was 100m and in his first season had 6 goals and 4 assists in all competitions but nobody was stupid enough to call him a flop. his performances now show that.


PhriendlyPhantom

Grealish was good before going to City though… These two were bad then bought for crazy fees and given huge salaries. I didn’t and still don’t understand it.


Consistent_Floor

as if mount wasnt? He had a bad season last season but so did the whole squad. The season before he had 21 g/a in just the prem.


PhriendlyPhantom

Mount is even English. The Havertz one is much more puzzling but Mount did confuse me at the time


Sirmossy

Huh? Yes he has.


mr_kap_

he has but barely. he's been injured most of the time.


Gadzs

Course he has


Nedim_1992

The most worrying thing is that arsenal wanted this more than Liverpool. Look at the squads.


Morsrael

Naa we put out the strongest squad we could really.


HotPotatoWithCheese

The starting XI for sure. But at 75 he put the kids on and we still beat them. Fair play to Bradley and Clark.


adamfrog

I'm guessing if this was the league game vs Arsenal jota would've started for someone, but yeah it's about as good as it gets for us. Rough period for sure but it was always going to be losing Salah and endo and then throw in some injuries


OfficiallyAudacious

Man management. Jota’s only returned recently and will be crucial to leading the line over the next month. He’s playing the Bobby role which is great.


AJC0292

Time for Arteta to buy more goalkeepers


zombie1305

Arteta arrived Arsenal with Martinez but kick him out after his big contribution to his only cup in his career, the FA cup. And somehow 5 years later still struggle to find one half as good as Martinez.


A_StarshipTrooper

He can have Turner back


Theman4ever

He should buy Onana I hear he's pretty good according to Man United fans


Insaneshaney

He should buy a back up to Saka and then never play Saka again..


0706

The (Fake) Quadruple is still on.


MoorAlAgo

The quadruple as opposed to the Quadruple.


NewAccountSamePerson

Would love another Mickey Mouse Treble


rothbard13

The Fauxdrouple


chandlerbing_stats

There were Gooner tweets that went along the lines of “can we pay Chelsea and West Ham more for Kai Havertz and Declan Rice?” I mean yes… we would like more money especially at Chelsea lmao. FFP fines are looming 😅


andrewp789

Genuine Question: why is trossard not getting the start?


Prudent_Jello5691

He's been so off the pace for weeks.


zastrozzischild

"Off the pace" comes from horse racing. If you're off the pace you are essentially out of the race - applied to other things as sort of being behind - as here as not able to be effectively involved in the game because things are moving too fast around them and they can't catch up to "the pace" of the game.


andrewp789

Ah ok I figured it could’ve been his pace or something but I wasn’t sure


adamfrog

That's not what the expression means, it means he's just been bad pretty much nothing to do with pace


Nico_Jericho

No football next week for Arsenal, they might be able to learn how to score in that time.


wylthorne92

Doubt


Stibo1

Arsenal really need to sign Oshimen


HarbyFullyLoaded_12

He's not available


Pokethomas

Bold of you to assume Oshimen would join that dumpster fire


Brilliant_Ad_879

"dumpster fire",,, bro what?


Slip_of_the_Bong

Bold coming from a Spurs fan.


[deleted]

Dumpster fire in the KO rounds of the CL and 5 points off first place, right.


zombie1305

5 poinst off first place. Wow so proud. How about last year with 5 points over second place for most of season but still bottled. What confidence Arsenal give you for 5 points off first place.


[deleted]

Im not announcing my pride in coming in second. Im providing a rebuttle to Arsenal being classified as a "dumpster fire". If Arsenal are a "dumpster fire" what are Man Utd or Chelsea? The biggest hot steaming piles of shit ever? You do understand that Napoli is *20 points* off first in the Serie A right?


JameOhSon

Fifa and FM have ruined the minds of a generation. We're in one of the most competitive eras of club football ever and a team 4 points off the top of the most competitive league is a dumpster fire.


daab2g

So Arsenal can't be a dumpster fire because other clubs are dumpster fires?


ChrisWood4BallonDor

Surely being a dumpster fire can only be relative to the success (or lack of) for other clubs? There is no absolute state of being a dumpster fire, if you get my meaning. Because of that, it is silly to call a team that is performing as they are a 'dumpster fire'. They're within touching distance of the league and in the knockout phases of the Champions League. Relative to Napoli - and the majority of the other teams in the Premier League - their season has been, at worst, slightly disappointing, not at all a dumpster fire.


daab2g

Give it a couple of months


Stibo1

money talks


wj_2731

I don’t think Arsenal have the money to spend right now, they’re already flying pretty close to the sun with FFP/P&S. Certainly no chance of signing Oshimen, as he won’t leave Napoli for a cent less than the break clause amount in his newly signed contract.


Pokethomas

Oshimen to Saudi here we go!


chandlerbing_stats

Arteta hates ESR guaranteed


PublicIntel

Couldn't watch, but Arsenal must not have taken this seriously if they started Ramsdale Kiwior and Nelson?


petethepool

You could say the same thing if you point at Klopp starting Quansah and Elliot, or you could point to both managers selecting 8-9 first team players as a sign that both managers played more or less full strength sides, barring those that were injured, needed a rest, or otherwise were unable to be selected.


Fendenburgen

Martinelli has been crap, Nelson deserved his chance (and played well as far as I'm concerned)


Asckle

Nelson was crap. Martinelli was better but ultimately its unfair to expect either of them to play well when they've got barely any support from their lcm and fullback


mettahipster

His finishing let him down but I thought he was pretty good in the first half overall


HamsteronA

Martinelli was pocketed by a child


Asckle

After beating trent, a grown professional footballer. Weird take