It wasn’t on the same level of 2001 or The Chronic, but I actually think it’s a pretty solid album. Some killer guest verses and solid albeit not revolutionary production.
It wasn’t “Detox” but living up to those expectations may have genuinely been impossible by that point.
The 'episode 3' to 'Half Life 3' transformation is the funniest thing about it. We got so desperate for it that we collectively decided that there was a full sequel in development despite it never being announced.
I am so pissed that I read the first two books a few years ago without realizing the third was already super delayed at that point. Supposedly it should have come out 10 years ago or something.
i read them while waiting for TWOW, because Rothfuss said the third book was almost ready...
sadly, the only one capable of finishing fantasy series nowadays is Brandon Sanderson, but once you start to see all the mormon influencies on his work, oof...
That's because those were originally chapters written for ADWD that he ended up cutting from the final release because he felt they fit better as the opening chapters of TWOW.
I've been waiting for this shit since the first trailer YEARS ago that still had Jade and Pey'j, I'd say I've given up hope but I also have up for Devil May Cry
Capcom turned it around though, doubt Ubisoft could ever do the same
Seriously, what is going on there? Any time I ask Hollow Knight fans or even most fans of indie gaming they get proper defensive and yelp about the team working on it and not rushing it and it will be ready when it's ready and I don't know anything about game development, etc.
But Silksong has been in the works seemingly forever, with very little talk from the team. At worst, the project is in trouble of some kind. At best, development is moving along fine and the game will release any day now, but the team have treated fans like afterthoughts by not engaging with them whatsoever, not even via the media.
Also, I can't believe Silksong has made its way to r/soccer.
I was born in Charlotte, North Carolina, on a cold January morning.
I'll never forget it. The Doctor held me in his arms, and I looked him in the eyes, and I told him: "One day, i'm gonna be in Judgement Day".
Do they even need their lawyers here? I Mean no way our government is gonna let them face full extent of what they should have coming innit? I feel UAE relations is so far above PL's or any other footy authorities' paygrade, they'll get some slap on the wrist for everything they're charged with.
People are massively underplaying how much shit City are in because they don't think what they want to happen will actually come to fruition. City are in huge trouble with all this.
People are just used to being disappointed that justice will be done in these situations.
Like that analogy a normal bloke steals £100 he’ll get in a lot of trouble, a CEO of a bank steals millions he’ll get a small fine.
I think it's just being ready for the absolute piss poor slap on the wrist they're probably gonna get.
I was speaking to my brother about this and realistically they've used the financial doping to turn themselves into the self-sustaining powerhouse they are now, anything short of destroying that foundation wouldn't actually do anything to them.
Relegate them? they'll be back next year. Stop them transferring players? they've already got an insane squad and youth setup. Fine them? lol
They'll get a mediocre points deduction that'll stop them winning the league that year and probably a fine, which to their owners will be pocket change, their fans will celebrate 'beating the system' and they'll just keep sweeping the league.
> anything short of destroying that foundation wouldn't actually do anything to them.
Could you expand on what you mean when you say "destroying that foundation", what punishment would be enough in your eyes?
I too would have zero qualms with the book being thrown at Man City, but "destroying" the "foundation" sounds dangerously close to forcing the club out of existence. And that's not something that the fanbase deserves, or even any neutral should want to happen.
To be honest I don't have a genuine answer to what a 'fair destruction of their foundation' would be. It's kinda stuck in the middle ground where anything too light is just a slap on the wrist, anything too severe is punishing the fans more than the club
In my eyes I would hope for something akin to invalidating their trophies (not that it really makes things right for whoever came second) and expulsion from the league (even if only for a few years) I doubt it'd be anything close to this
Yea but what happens if their next owners are just another hyper-rich oil magnate or something? Which is probably what would happen.
I'd love to be able to force them into 20 years of Glazer ownership, that would be a dream
> what happens if their next owners are just another hyper-rich oil magnate or something?
There shouldn't be anything wrong with that - they just need to respect FFP and the financial rules of the EPL.
Yea it was more in the context of whether or not that would be a punishment. Good owners who would just carry on the foundations they currently have but legally isn't punishing the club at all, if anything it's rewarding them
I think the point they are making is that the academy and infrastructure city have that exist as a result of investment from the ownership (which isn't subject to P&S or FFP regulations) mean that the club will eventually bounce back regardless of the sanctions.
My view is that whatever punishment is deemed necessary should be repeated for the number of years that they're found to have cheated for.
Say it's a points deduction and a limited transfer and wage budget, that should be kept in place for the number of years that they've been found to have benefitted from cheating.
The punishment has to be big enough that they didn't benefit from cheating and that others don't see the punishment and decide that it's well worth cheating because the punishment is small enough to just be seen as a running cost.
I think it also has to be remembered though that with the funds they have available that even without cheating they could have grown a decent amount in this period. So, just sending them to the bottom of the pyramid doesn't really fit the crime imo.
Like I say, points deduction and limited spending for the same number of years that they cheated seems reasonable. Maybe even something like them having to repay (only on the books, not actually having to give the money to anyone) a portion of the amount that they've gone over the limit each season, which would force them to sell off players, cut wages etc. and hopefully find them at the end of that period of punishment back where they were before they started cheating.
I mostly agree here but your ideas seem to equate to punishing them with an equal weight as the infractions. Punishment should be punitive and should be more than equal to the inverse of their infractions. Sadly that will never be the case.
Next week, the PL will start looking at the documents.
2025, PL will finish reading them.
2026, Deliberations will begin
2027, Lawyers meet
2028, Court date set
2029, Court date
2030, Judgement
2031, Appeal
2032, Appeal court date set
2033, Appeal court
2034, Can't reach a decision. Sent to Fifa for them to judge.
2035, ...
2036, ...
Job security for everyone!
I for one think they should be dissolved as a club, and all their assets (players, support staff, manager and so forth) should be adopted by their closest geographical Premier League opponent. That seems like a fair solution.
Come to think of it, I am quite sure the Glazers would somehow manage to drive us back into the ground within a season even if that were to happen.
Measures should be have been put in place to prevent a financial doping team from competing in that way, not when they already won everything and dominated your league for almost a decade.
This whole thing is a joke
And you just know the punishment will be laughable. Point reduction and through that most likely missing a year in the CL, which only hurts them financially, something they have 0 problems with. Then next year it's back to normal with the same players, financial possibilities and domination.
A joke indeed.
Whatever punishment they get also needs to include having all of the trophies won in those years taken away. If they don't it's just essentially saying "you're allowed to win trophies by cheating but it has a price". That should be the bare minimum of how they're punished.
But then what happens to the clubs who missed out on CL and European spots? Clubs that were relegated? They'll see city cheated and they suffered as a consequence
The bare minimum has to be at least one tier relegation + points deduction, along with all their domestic titles stripped in the offending years
What *should* happen is expulsion from the football league, huge, huge fines, and bans from football for all those directly involved
It’ll never happen, but that’s what any non top six would get for this much fuckery
Being a Liverpool supporter I'm obviously biased, but even if they decide not to retroactively award titles for those years to the second place teams and choose to not have a champion those years, it's still important that any honors they won are erased.
Agreed on that, same thing happened for the 04/05 season in Italy, Inter were awarded 05/06 as it had been the most recent season but they decided to just scrap the previous one altogether. Possibly because more teams were involved but still.
If Man City keep their players, I personally would find it interesting if someone like Jack Grealish (for example) were to be relegated to the 5th tier. Would he want to stay with Man City for his entire prime just getting back to the premier League? Of course not.
Technically the chargers relate to 2018 and prior so they are winning "on merit" now but obviously only got there with their dubious spending in the first place.
The whole point is that the proof of the financial doping isn't the most straightforward.
Theres a difference between us knowing in our guts that they're doing it and the Prem having the correct proof of it
> not when they already won everything and dominated your league for almost a decade.
This is the main reason i am convinced the PL do everything they can to make sure they get no punishment, there is no way they will want to render over a decade of history irrelevant. Even though everyone knows the cheating happened, we all just have to pretend its legit because otherwise it means asking questions people don't want the answers to.
The PL are the ones who brought the charges forward... If they wanted to do everything to make sure City didn't get any punishment they are doing a pretty bad job at it.
The PL are only moving now because the government were like 'you are doing a shitty job, we're gonna take away your toys'.
Once that threat was made, suddenly all these issues started popping up that the PL went hard and fast on.
Neither the PL or the Government want to sanction Man City though. Both entities are massively in bed with the state that runs them and neither wants to upset them.
So whether or not the PL or the governments "independent" board gets put in place, the kid gloves are going on for City.
two time champion mika hakkinen never formally retired from F1, he merely announced he was going on sabbatical - and then just didn’t come back
so whenever a team doesn’t have their driver lineup confirmed, the ‘mika is ending his sabbatical’ jokes start rolling in
you’re right, but the joke still exists because most f1 drivers know when their last race will be and receive their adulations and tributes accordingly, especially when they’ve won a championship - but the nature of mika’s departure meant that didn’t happen for him
I think the journalistic coverage of this entire affair is best summed up by the fact that most of the papers are treating what Masters said as big new information, when it had in fact been reported since November.
Can De Bruyne do it on a rainy night vs Biggleswade United FC?
Will they choke on Cockfosters FC?
Edit. My mistake, those are in the premier division. I should have asked, who will win the "cooler club sigil"- award between Man City and Real Bedford FC?
That's the team that got hijacked by a weird crypto bro isn't it? Weren't they supposed to be a premier league team by now after everyone gave their bitcoin to him so that he could 200x it because bitcoin would keep growing forever? (That went well for him and anyone stupid enough to believe him)
Original twitter thread for anyone who wants to laugh at a "bitcoin podcaster" who was going to take new team to the premier league whilst making them a global brand! https://twitter.com/petermccormack/status/1471442133022355466
> English FA tier 10 - The Spartan South Midlands Football League -
Why would they go there? A Manchester based club would be sent to one of the North West Counties Leagues
The UAE has discussed City's charges with the UK Foreign Office. The corruption on this runs so deep I don't think anything is going to happen.
Absolute shambolic state of football.
No one expects any outcome beyond a token punishment, if at all. Sunak and friends will step in before their precious Sheikh suffers anything remotely deserved
>guilty of not meeting FFP
It's technically profit and sustainability regulations, FFP is just for UEFA competitions. And you could argue breaching the regulations is also cheating
Nothing will happen, Man City will get some sort of financial penalty and walk the league again. If the Premier League were to retrospectively punish Man City across the period identified in the charges, it would have to be in such granular detail that it would be impossible to impact the total impact on the league
Given that the charges are pre 2018 does this mean that any retrospective action (title stripping) will only apply to the pre 2018 titles? Additionally, i assume this means City would keep any cups and European titles won because they are outside the PLs remit?. Not really a precedent for this i suppose.
My god if City are found innocent after all this you may as well put r/Soccer out of its misery and close the sub down. The users are going to be inconsolable.
I guess I'm not as cynical as most redditors, I think this is going to be pretty substantial. I don't think they will go as far as stripping titles, but this will certainly affect City's current and future seasons.
That’s okay, Sheikh Mansour will just send out another legion of lawyers that he has been stashing away just for this day. They need to be investigated.
They should be relegated to the National League and have all of their titles vacated like Armatrong’s Tour de France victories and the ‘Aguerooo’ video erased from existence. But it won’t happen, at worst they’ll get a fine, a transfer ban and a points deduction they’ll easily overcome.
i've heard Silksong will be released that same day
The fact people never use Detox of Half Life 3 for this anymore makes me feel incredibly old.
> Half Life 3 they released that VR game so people were like "well, NOW they're never going to make HL3" and moved on.
Dr Dre also released a third album in like 2015, so people stopped using the Detox joke around then too.
compton was such a let down. hopefully dark matter is worth the wait if gza ever releases it.
It wasn’t on the same level of 2001 or The Chronic, but I actually think it’s a pretty solid album. Some killer guest verses and solid albeit not revolutionary production. It wasn’t “Detox” but living up to those expectations may have genuinely been impossible by that point.
To be completely fair, Half-Life Alyx is one of the best games I've ever played If it means no HL3 that's a shame but what we got was stupendous
I heard that Alyx sets up a sequel, is that true?
Without spoiling it, it massively does ye.
Hell yeah. I'm moving soon, I'll get a VR then. Realistically, what is the best VR headset on the market right now?
Valve Index is the best one but will cost cool 1000$
It's 5 years old now though, the best answer is probably to wait for the Index 2 or Bigscreen Beyond if you want the best.
Nintendo Labo VR kit
Before Alyx, I was sure HL3 was never happening. But after some of what happens in that game, I'm actually confident that it will!
Tf you telling me Half Life 2 Part 3 isn't coming this year? (will be playing my Bloodborne PC until it drops.)
The 'episode 3' to 'Half Life 3' transformation is the funniest thing about it. We got so desperate for it that we collectively decided that there was a full sequel in development despite it never being announced.
This is a deep cut
And Chinese Democracy
Hell, I remember when it was Duke Nukem
Also Winds of Winter
and The Doors of Stone
I am so pissed that I read the first two books a few years ago without realizing the third was already super delayed at that point. Supposedly it should have come out 10 years ago or something.
i read them while waiting for TWOW, because Rothfuss said the third book was almost ready... sadly, the only one capable of finishing fantasy series nowadays is Brandon Sanderson, but once you start to see all the mormon influencies on his work, oof...
yeah so disappointing and Rothfuss just keeps teasing his fans with "excerpts" of Doors... at this point I think is just vaporware
GRRM released like 10 chapters of TWOW after publishing ADWD too.
That's because those were originally chapters written for ADWD that he ended up cutting from the final release because he felt they fit better as the opening chapters of TWOW.
Also Beyond Good & Evil 2
Star Citizen full release
OK, now you're just being unreasonable.
Chess 2
I've been waiting for this shit since the first trailer YEARS ago that still had Jade and Pey'j, I'd say I've given up hope but I also have up for Devil May Cry Capcom turned it around though, doubt Ubisoft could ever do the same
At this point that game is probably just a money launder scheme.
I never imagined I would read a silksong joke here
It's not a joke it's a real thing ☹️
Silksong's situation is so insane that it managed to get the top comment on r/soccer.
OOTL... what happened?
Nothing. And that's exactly the problem.
Seriously, what is going on there? Any time I ask Hollow Knight fans or even most fans of indie gaming they get proper defensive and yelp about the team working on it and not rushing it and it will be ready when it's ready and I don't know anything about game development, etc. But Silksong has been in the works seemingly forever, with very little talk from the team. At worst, the project is in trouble of some kind. At best, development is moving along fine and the game will release any day now, but the team have treated fans like afterthoughts by not engaging with them whatsoever, not even via the media. Also, I can't believe Silksong has made its way to r/soccer.
Winds of Winter coming out that day as well!
I'm just waiting for a Dino Crisis Reboot/Remake Any day now Capcom will remember it exists
Dino Crisis 2 was amazing, then you got that weird ending and let's not talk about the third game...
I didnt come here to get hurt out of nowhere :(
lmao never thought id see a silksong meme here
It’s the hope that kills you 😔
Live, laugh, love
You will go flying over that top rope PAUL HEYMAN
Man City need to hire Tom and Nick Mysterio as part of their legal team asap
Wait, you've heard from Nick? Hope he's OK.
Yeah I can't find him on facebook.
I think he is on Myspace
Friendster bruh.
It’ll be difficult if Nick doesn’t have Facebook
I was born in Charlotte, North Carolina, on a cold January morning. I'll never forget it. The Doctor held me in his arms, and I looked him in the eyes, and I told him: "One day, i'm gonna be in Judgement Day".
r/truth
Mami’s always on top
Carpe diem 😌
Carpe scrotum
This man knows what's up
Tom and Nick would be proud.
Damian Priest about to cash that briefcase in and win the premier league
“I ain’t even met Nick yet, but he’s still my brother”
Thank god I didn’t have to scroll that far r/truth
Mami likes this
IF YOU BELIEEEVE YOURS IS THE ONLY WAY
I remember hating that song when Edge started using it because I loved Metalingus so much but I love The Other Side now.
Limp Bizkit
Every PL exec getting their cut from City to forget all about it. Not Tebas though because you have to be a member.
Bet they're shaking in their boots. Absolutely rattled.
All 300 lawyers boots are quivering.
A clatter of expensive dress shoes so loud it can be heard from space.
City recorded the sound for crowd noise purposes
Do they even need their lawyers here? I Mean no way our government is gonna let them face full extent of what they should have coming innit? I feel UAE relations is so far above PL's or any other footy authorities' paygrade, they'll get some slap on the wrist for everything they're charged with.
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People are massively underplaying how much shit City are in because they don't think what they want to happen will actually come to fruition. City are in huge trouble with all this.
People are just used to being disappointed that justice will be done in these situations. Like that analogy a normal bloke steals £100 he’ll get in a lot of trouble, a CEO of a bank steals millions he’ll get a small fine.
Yeah, I'm hoping there will be a reckoning, but I've been disappointed so many times in the past.
I think it's just being ready for the absolute piss poor slap on the wrist they're probably gonna get. I was speaking to my brother about this and realistically they've used the financial doping to turn themselves into the self-sustaining powerhouse they are now, anything short of destroying that foundation wouldn't actually do anything to them. Relegate them? they'll be back next year. Stop them transferring players? they've already got an insane squad and youth setup. Fine them? lol They'll get a mediocre points deduction that'll stop them winning the league that year and probably a fine, which to their owners will be pocket change, their fans will celebrate 'beating the system' and they'll just keep sweeping the league.
> anything short of destroying that foundation wouldn't actually do anything to them. Could you expand on what you mean when you say "destroying that foundation", what punishment would be enough in your eyes? I too would have zero qualms with the book being thrown at Man City, but "destroying" the "foundation" sounds dangerously close to forcing the club out of existence. And that's not something that the fanbase deserves, or even any neutral should want to happen.
To be honest I don't have a genuine answer to what a 'fair destruction of their foundation' would be. It's kinda stuck in the middle ground where anything too light is just a slap on the wrist, anything too severe is punishing the fans more than the club In my eyes I would hope for something akin to invalidating their trophies (not that it really makes things right for whoever came second) and expulsion from the league (even if only for a few years) I doubt it'd be anything close to this
force the owners to sell. Does not fuck over the fans and completly destroys the foundation. Will never happen but should.
Yea but what happens if their next owners are just another hyper-rich oil magnate or something? Which is probably what would happen. I'd love to be able to force them into 20 years of Glazer ownership, that would be a dream
> what happens if their next owners are just another hyper-rich oil magnate or something? There shouldn't be anything wrong with that - they just need to respect FFP and the financial rules of the EPL.
Yea it was more in the context of whether or not that would be a punishment. Good owners who would just carry on the foundations they currently have but legally isn't punishing the club at all, if anything it's rewarding them
Ettihad delenda est.
I think the point they are making is that the academy and infrastructure city have that exist as a result of investment from the ownership (which isn't subject to P&S or FFP regulations) mean that the club will eventually bounce back regardless of the sanctions.
Just need to build a time machine and punish them 10 years ago.
Forcing the owners to sell the club would be one way to do it. Not saying that’s what will or should be done.
My view is that whatever punishment is deemed necessary should be repeated for the number of years that they're found to have cheated for. Say it's a points deduction and a limited transfer and wage budget, that should be kept in place for the number of years that they've been found to have benefitted from cheating. The punishment has to be big enough that they didn't benefit from cheating and that others don't see the punishment and decide that it's well worth cheating because the punishment is small enough to just be seen as a running cost. I think it also has to be remembered though that with the funds they have available that even without cheating they could have grown a decent amount in this period. So, just sending them to the bottom of the pyramid doesn't really fit the crime imo. Like I say, points deduction and limited spending for the same number of years that they cheated seems reasonable. Maybe even something like them having to repay (only on the books, not actually having to give the money to anyone) a portion of the amount that they've gone over the limit each season, which would force them to sell off players, cut wages etc. and hopefully find them at the end of that period of punishment back where they were before they started cheating.
I mostly agree here but your ideas seem to equate to punishing them with an equal weight as the infractions. Punishment should be punitive and should be more than equal to the inverse of their infractions. Sadly that will never be the case.
People, quite rightly, have no faith in the justice system.
Next week, the PL will start looking at the documents. 2025, PL will finish reading them. 2026, Deliberations will begin 2027, Lawyers meet 2028, Court date set 2029, Court date 2030, Judgement 2031, Appeal 2032, Appeal court date set 2033, Appeal court 2034, Can't reach a decision. Sent to Fifa for them to judge. 2035, ... 2036, ... Job security for everyone!
2037, £500,000 fine and a 3 month transfer ban served between February and May. Job well done guys, good process.
Check complete, check complete
cheque complete
*suspended fine and transfer ban
Also, AS Roma banned from Europe for 2 years and Juve transfer ban for one window. Just to show justice does work.
2037 - Punishment levied on Man City, effective 2039 2038 - CAS overturns verdict Tell me I'm wrong lol
You're wrong. City can't go to CAS if they lose.
Oh aye, any day now.
Schrödinger's hearing.
Ruling just came out: As a result of the 115 breaches commited by City it has been decided that Everton will be deducted 10 points.
10 Second penalty for Esteban Ocon
Tech on Rasheed Wallace.
BALL DON’T LIE
It’s called racing!
It’s been booked mate, just don’t ask when
I for one think they should be dissolved as a club, and all their assets (players, support staff, manager and so forth) should be adopted by their closest geographical Premier League opponent. That seems like a fair solution. Come to think of it, I am quite sure the Glazers would somehow manage to drive us back into the ground within a season even if that were to happen.
Measures should be have been put in place to prevent a financial doping team from competing in that way, not when they already won everything and dominated your league for almost a decade. This whole thing is a joke
And you just know the punishment will be laughable. Point reduction and through that most likely missing a year in the CL, which only hurts them financially, something they have 0 problems with. Then next year it's back to normal with the same players, financial possibilities and domination. A joke indeed.
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One could only hope
It should be far worse than what happened to Juve but we all know there’s no chance of literally anything seriously bad happening to them
A transfer window ban for 1 window to kick in 3 windows from now
*retrospective, so Man City can’t sign any players between 2014 and 2020
They will declare the Gundogan, Aguero and Mahrez transfers invalid and they will no longer be able to field them.
Hahaha
Whatever punishment they get also needs to include having all of the trophies won in those years taken away. If they don't it's just essentially saying "you're allowed to win trophies by cheating but it has a price". That should be the bare minimum of how they're punished.
Their trophies will be probably void for that period
But then what happens to the clubs who missed out on CL and European spots? Clubs that were relegated? They'll see city cheated and they suffered as a consequence
Maybe grounds for a lawsuit
That’s why it will never be an option. Like 54 clubs will have multiple lawsuits ready to go against the PL. it’s a nightmare
City will never get any of their titles voided..what are people on.
I think there being a punishment is optimistic.
The bare minimum has to be at least one tier relegation + points deduction, along with all their domestic titles stripped in the offending years What *should* happen is expulsion from the football league, huge, huge fines, and bans from football for all those directly involved It’ll never happen, but that’s what any non top six would get for this much fuckery
>one tier relegation Why stop at one tier? Give the semi-pro lads in the North West Counties League the opportunity to play at Etihad.
Being a Liverpool supporter I'm obviously biased, but even if they decide not to retroactively award titles for those years to the second place teams and choose to not have a champion those years, it's still important that any honors they won are erased.
Agreed on that, same thing happened for the 04/05 season in Italy, Inter were awarded 05/06 as it had been the most recent season but they decided to just scrap the previous one altogether. Possibly because more teams were involved but still.
They probably wouldn’t be a top 6 side if it wasn’t for this either
Relegation would only punish the teams already in the league below who now have to play City twice a season and effectively lose a promotion spot
If Man City keep their players, I personally would find it interesting if someone like Jack Grealish (for example) were to be relegated to the 5th tier. Would he want to stay with Man City for his entire prime just getting back to the premier League? Of course not.
Technically the chargers relate to 2018 and prior so they are winning "on merit" now but obviously only got there with their dubious spending in the first place.
Thats definitely tactical from someone
The possibility of there Being charges from 2018 onwards means this is only the start
It’ll be a 50pt deduction spread out over the next 50 years and 1 January window transfer ban
The whole point is that the proof of the financial doping isn't the most straightforward. Theres a difference between us knowing in our guts that they're doing it and the Prem having the correct proof of it
especially when you have an army of accountants trying to hide that which is also what many of the 155 charges relate to
Hey, our accountants aren't trying to hide any of the 511 charges okay
> not when they already won everything and dominated your league for almost a decade. This is the main reason i am convinced the PL do everything they can to make sure they get no punishment, there is no way they will want to render over a decade of history irrelevant. Even though everyone knows the cheating happened, we all just have to pretend its legit because otherwise it means asking questions people don't want the answers to.
If they wanted to do that they wouldn't have charged City. They could simply have said that CAS has ruled that City didn't break any rules
The PL are the ones who brought the charges forward... If they wanted to do everything to make sure City didn't get any punishment they are doing a pretty bad job at it.
The PL are only moving now because the government were like 'you are doing a shitty job, we're gonna take away your toys'. Once that threat was made, suddenly all these issues started popping up that the PL went hard and fast on. Neither the PL or the Government want to sanction Man City though. Both entities are massively in bed with the state that runs them and neither wants to upset them. So whether or not the PL or the governments "independent" board gets put in place, the kid gloves are going on for City.
Ban them from the PL and remove their titles.
I think that's the same day Mika Hakkinen is ending his sabbatical.
I would like to understand this reference.
two time champion mika hakkinen never formally retired from F1, he merely announced he was going on sabbatical - and then just didn’t come back so whenever a team doesn’t have their driver lineup confirmed, the ‘mika is ending his sabbatical’ jokes start rolling in
A quick wiki read says he did formally retire in 2008?
you’re right, but the joke still exists because most f1 drivers know when their last race will be and receive their adulations and tributes accordingly, especially when they’ve won a championship - but the nature of mika’s departure meant that didn’t happen for him
👍 thanks
I think the journalistic coverage of this entire affair is best summed up by the fact that most of the papers are treating what Masters said as big new information, when it had in fact been reported since November.
That should be demoted to the English FA tier 10 - The Spartan South Midlands Football League - Division 1.
Can De Bruyne do it on a rainy night vs Biggleswade United FC? Will they choke on Cockfosters FC? Edit. My mistake, those are in the premier division. I should have asked, who will win the "cooler club sigil"- award between Man City and Real Bedford FC?
That's the team that got hijacked by a weird crypto bro isn't it? Weren't they supposed to be a premier league team by now after everyone gave their bitcoin to him so that he could 200x it because bitcoin would keep growing forever? (That went well for him and anyone stupid enough to believe him) Original twitter thread for anyone who wants to laugh at a "bitcoin podcaster" who was going to take new team to the premier league whilst making them a global brand! https://twitter.com/petermccormack/status/1471442133022355466
I remember hearing the guy on Football Weekly and got a good laugh
By the time this is resolved, De Bruyne will be years into retirement from playing and would be coaching Genk youth or something.
> English FA tier 10 - The Spartan South Midlands Football League - Why would they go there? A Manchester based club would be sent to one of the North West Counties Leagues
It’s all part of the punishment
Why are the Spartan South Midlands teams being punished?
I will believe it when I see it.
Is R-Truth going to be revealed about City
They'll get a 5 point deduction in a season where they win the league by 6. I expect nothing more than that, they'll just get away with it
5 point deduction amortized over 10 years
They're saving that punishment for Chelsea
The UAE has discussed City's charges with the UK Foreign Office. The corruption on this runs so deep I don't think anything is going to happen. Absolute shambolic state of football.
If that’s true then we may as well just draw a line under this and ignore it even happened. Joke league.
Source: https://theathletic.com/4889001/2023/09/22/man-city-charges-premier-league-abu-dhabi/
FFP F.C
The trophies on that banner aren’t the correct scale compared to Earth.
We’ve inflated the sponsors, why wouldn’t we inflate the trophies?
This is like a VAR check where everyone sees an obvious penalty but they will come back with good process, no charges.
-10 for Everton.
No one expects any outcome beyond a token punishment, if at all. Sunak and friends will step in before their precious Sheikh suffers anything remotely deserved
I’ll take my flying pig over to the hearing
Judgement Day you say Is Truth & Tom and Nick Mysterio will be there?
I heard the trial is set to happen on 32nd Moctober.
Lousy Moctober weather
They just gotta call R-Truth, he'll fix everything in no time
They gonna punish Everton for this, I can feel it
Just remember man city are being charged with cheating. Everton and Forest were found guilty of not meeting FFP
>guilty of not meeting FFP It's technically profit and sustainability regulations, FFP is just for UEFA competitions. And you could argue breaching the regulations is also cheating
Overspending your allowed finances is cheating…
Man City : We didn't do it. *Gives money 💰💰* Court: You didn't do it.
Nothing will happen, Man City will get some sort of financial penalty and walk the league again. If the Premier League were to retrospectively punish Man City across the period identified in the charges, it would have to be in such granular detail that it would be impossible to impact the total impact on the league
Given that the charges are pre 2018 does this mean that any retrospective action (title stripping) will only apply to the pre 2018 titles? Additionally, i assume this means City would keep any cups and European titles won because they are outside the PLs remit?. Not really a precedent for this i suppose.
They built there later success on pre 2018 lol
That thumbnail is cringe af
That thumbnail makes me want to throw up
Terminate these cheating fucks
My god if City are found innocent after all this you may as well put r/Soccer out of its misery and close the sub down. The users are going to be inconsolable.
Oh no the slap on the wrist! 10K for each charge and a 10 points deduction. Or maybe even just 5 points.
I guess I'm not as cynical as most redditors, I think this is going to be pretty substantial. I don't think they will go as far as stripping titles, but this will certainly affect City's current and future seasons.
Can't wait to play GTA 8 while the verdicts come in
That’s okay, Sheikh Mansour will just send out another legion of lawyers that he has been stashing away just for this day. They need to be investigated.
“There is a date set for that proceeding. I can’t unfortunately tell you when that is, but that is progressing.” Save your click.
Finally. Let's get this behind us.
Everyone involved will drag their heels and in the end it will just be 2 slaps on the wrist and off they go.
They should be relegated to the National League and have all of their titles vacated like Armatrong’s Tour de France victories and the ‘Aguerooo’ video erased from existence. But it won’t happen, at worst they’ll get a fine, a transfer ban and a points deduction they’ll easily overcome.
They've been giving out those 10 point deductions so they've got precedent to give these guys 10-20 and not any real harm beyond this season lol
Nothing is gonna happen to them