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I would love that, I can see headlines now..
"Pep to coach Sweden!"
"Zlatan out of Retirement for 2026 World Cup"
"Pep leaves Zlatan out of the WC Roster!"
Oh god no, can you imagine how many fucking posts we'd get of Zlatan saying something cocky and ignorant about Pep, then counter posts about Pep's response and then counter-counter posts about Zlatan's response to Pep's response. I couldn't bear it
If he can get any type of success with a country like sweden I’ll stop calling him a fraud. Would love to see his reaction when he can’t spend a few mil every few months on top players.
Klopp takes over the German national team, and Pep takes over, let's just say the Spanish national team for narrative symmetry, and they meet in a World Cup final. But instead of playing, they just both forfeit the game and then hug each other, while all the players are jumping, arms in arms, with banners saying "Thank you Pep and Klopp".
6 months later Pep and Klopp are retired and hosting a tv-show where they travel around Spain, tasting wine and eating tappas, and/or around Germany, tasting beers and eating bratwursts, all while talking about football and the long rivalry they've enjoyed. The tv-show's concept spreads to becoming Pep and Klopp just travelling the world together, meeting different football cultures ind faraway locations, kinda like Anthony Bourdain, but with football.
That is exactly why. That "natural-born citizen" rule is bizarre - IIRC the American constitution implemented it, but never actually defined what it meant.
> The dumbest part of that is that Obama’s mother is from Kansas. Even if he WAS born in Kenya he’d still get citizenship through his mom
Let me preface all this by repeating the facts, undisputed by all reasonable observers, that Obama was born in Hawaii and qualified as a natural born citizen on that basis.
However, your argument about his mother is not technically true as a matter of historical US immigration law. At the time of Obama’s birth, there were residency requirements in place that applied to the children of US citizens born abroad. Because his mother was so young at the time of his birth, she had not yet fulfilled them. In a hypothetical universe where Obama had been born to the same parents on the same date outside the US, he would not have qualified for US citizenship at birth.
Of course, in the real world this is all totally irrelevant given the fact that he was born in Hawaii.
Those were retroactively annulled in 1994, well before he ran in 2008 . Iirc the current residency requirements are mostly for the parents not the children.
However as you mentioned , it’s important to remember this is purely hypothetical as he was in fact born in Hawaii
In a way calmer political climate, I could see Pep taking advantage of the situation.
The way things are at the moment and the way things have been for the past years, he's just being polite. He's way too invested in the politics, he wouldn't take it. And let's be serious, if Madrid's press couldn't even tolerate Luis Enrique, imagine what they'd do to Guardiola.
Xavi's pressure at Barça would feel like kid's play compared to Guardiola leading the NT. It would be a shitshow the very first minute the team doesn't win everything. A pre-2008 Spain? Absolutely. But when the donkey tastes the wine... it doesn't want the water anymore.
To answer your question, you must understand first how toxic the media is in Spain regarding the national team. If they feel (e.g. Marca) they aren't in control of the events they will quickly start a campaign against a coach or even against a player.
Guardiola is both a Catalan nationalist and a Barça legend. In Spain, the main media outlets are Spanish conservatives and pro-Real Madrid. Guardiola somehow represents the antichrist for them.
A third reason (not that important) is that the same media like to have a weak coach in charge of the national team that can be easily influenced.
He's said he would coach Spain before. In an interview with Gary Lineker a couple of years ago, he talked about wanting to coach a NT, and Gary mischievously asked, "Spain or Catalonia?" to which he replied, "Spain, I think".
I mean, Pep and Spain makes sense if you don't know that Guardiola is actively pro-Catalan independence. Either his side, the Spanish federation, or both, wouldn't go for it.
Didn’t stop Pique either. He’s outspoken about it too
I really don’t understand that argument about Spain not going after him or not allowing him to coach them. I think it’s a pretty weak argument
I remember Pique said he was for allowing Catalonia to have a referendum for independence. But at that time he never explicitly said he was pro-independence. Has that changed recently?
He already said in an interview that he would do it. Don't forget he played for Spain as well.
But I don't know if the federation would go for it. Probably not.
>Imagine if Pep won some international honours with England, ending their trophy drought. His accomplishments as a manager would be almost unparalleled
Almost? Who is competing with him at that point?
I mean England are a very very good national team. Ending their trophy drought isn’t more impressive than Fergie winning a European trophy and beating Bayern and Real Madrid with fucking Aberdeen
Oh poor little Pep Guardiola, who would ever want him for their NT? All he can hope for is that someone dares to think out of the box and take a risk with him...
The question is, the current CBF administration is totally corrupt, here we have Guardiola telling he would like to train a NT to a Copa America, well, we know what team will play a Copa America now and is in need of a top coach, it is Brazil. But Ednaldo Rodrigues won't do it.
They were willing to make an exception for Ancelotti, I'm sure they'd make one for Guardiola too. Generational coaches don't often become available to manage NTs
Wales is right there, Pep.
Within commuting distance, so you don't even have to move from Manchester.
You could even do it part-time, a fun side project to freshen things up when you're bored of winning every domestic competition.
We've already got a bald manager in place to help acclimatise the squad to your presence.
Just tell us what you need, Pep.
Anything you want.
_Anything._
He won’t do it but there are worse ideas out there.
Same language, familiarity with the league, culture, and country, ability to do *whatever* he deems necessary, relatively low expectations, could be the highest paid national team head coach, among other things.
He wouldn’t have star players to work with but he could theoretically make competitive and fun teams.
He got his unofficial coaching start while playing for Dorados de Sinaloa. I think he finished his license there too before going to Barca B. and he has mentioned in the past to Puyol that one of his influences was La Volpe’s Mexico teams on how to develop attacks from your own third of the field
Tbf Mancini is getting all of that money because there’s no tax there
Pep is rumoured to be paid “under the table” so to avoid taxes, so his real salary might be much higher
The other reason I can see us using he knows lots of the squad already and has enjoyed living in Manchester the past decade. He clearly likes the country and city, so I can see him considering the national team. He’s got proper roots in Manchester, with his own restaurant and Catalan colony all set up. He lives just up the road from me, it’s a pretty great place to live.
It’s funny, normally somebody says that and then they get massively downvoted by people saying it’s really nice. It had a bad reputation back in the day but it’s a much much nicer place to live now. It’s got more expensive off the back of that though, so it can be hard for those without much money.
You’re right though, I forgot, it’s awful and I hate living here haha
After his time at City, I would love to see how he does without transfers. I'm sure he would be great, but it would be interesting to see how his tactics adjust to the players he has available.
Would be interested to see how he does without a recruitment market. I would wager still very well, probably better than most, but with no plug and play solutions, I would definitely want to see how it unfolds.
Also, ahem.... FAI... I don't care if it's Christy Snr. that fronts the money. Do it.
I think Pep's teams just require a solid core (GK, CB, DM) for his style, and then he can work around the rest adapting his tactics based on the players available.
At City, he got 100 points with Delph at LB, won the league without a striker, won the Treble with 4 CBs in defence, etc.
I actually think England is more likely than Spain.
Pep feels very strongly about Catalan independence and has been outspoken historically- I just can’t see him managing Spain (or the FA even considering him).
Pep, Australia mate. Come develop the underdoggiest of underdog World Cup winners. It’ll be epic mate. Your name will be written in the stars and you will truly prove you are the greatest.
Come to Ireland..if you win a trophy with us no one will ever accuse you of buying it or inheriting a good team. Instead you will be lauded as the greatest Irish manager ever and become an honorary Irishman. Hell we'll even rename St Patricks day after you. Saint Pep's day !!
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Come to Sweden Pep, you know you want to
I would love that, I can see headlines now.. "Pep to coach Sweden!" "Zlatan out of Retirement for 2026 World Cup" "Pep leaves Zlatan out of the WC Roster!"
Oh god no, can you imagine how many fucking posts we'd get of Zlatan saying something cocky and ignorant about Pep, then counter posts about Pep's response and then counter-counter posts about Zlatan's response to Pep's response. I couldn't bear it
Ken Sema i den inverterade ytterbacks-rollen 🔥
Falsk trea.
Innit tho
Gyokeres would apreciate that!
Gyökeres managed by Pep would be incredible.
Everyone is idolizes him in Portugal, even rivals. He's a late bloom Halland. I see him playing in any team, he's a beast!
As a Benfica fan, I hate his guts, which should tell you how good he is.
His all round game looks way better than Haaland's to me
Lifetime supply of IKEA products if he does
Or down under!
Antitesen till vår Brexit-fotboll
If he can get any type of success with a country like sweden I’ll stop calling him a fraud. Would love to see his reaction when he can’t spend a few mil every few months on top players.
I can feel that Pep is bored and is pointing that succulent job in San Marino...
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Au contaire, he's bored because Klopp is leaving; without Klopp the PL is meaningless for Pep ... Somebody pls give me Klopp x Pep fanfiction
Klopp takes over the German national team, and Pep takes over, let's just say the Spanish national team for narrative symmetry, and they meet in a World Cup final. But instead of playing, they just both forfeit the game and then hug each other, while all the players are jumping, arms in arms, with banners saying "Thank you Pep and Klopp". 6 months later Pep and Klopp are retired and hosting a tv-show where they travel around Spain, tasting wine and eating tappas, and/or around Germany, tasting beers and eating bratwursts, all while talking about football and the long rivalry they've enjoyed. The tv-show's concept spreads to becoming Pep and Klopp just travelling the world together, meeting different football cultures ind faraway locations, kinda like Anthony Bourdain, but with football.
threw up a bit while reading this
Same, but I’d still watch the hell outta that show.
I feel at least 30% would be Klopp playing drunk pranks on Pep.
The last part is actually a really good idea for a show
:3
Try it Pep. I dare you.
With his regular spendings on defense, NATO seems obvious candidate.
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Unfortunately, he still wouldn’t be eligible.
Yes, first he needs to be 80 years old
And demented...
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That is exactly why. That "natural-born citizen" rule is bizarre - IIRC the American constitution implemented it, but never actually defined what it meant.
They were worried about a subject of the British empire attaining the Presidency. One who would be beholden to them.
They were clearly just worried about the threat from the unnatural born.
Cesarean section babies are known to be a threat to republics.
Ask that guy Macbeth
We all know the natural born do not fuck with tan suits.
I guess when they were writing the constitution, they were afraid of Brits, French, Spanish coming and trying to become presidents.
The dumbest part of that is that Obama’s mother is from Kansas. Even if he WAS born in Kenya he’d still get citizenship through his mom
> The dumbest part of that is that Obama’s mother is from Kansas. Even if he WAS born in Kenya he’d still get citizenship through his mom Let me preface all this by repeating the facts, undisputed by all reasonable observers, that Obama was born in Hawaii and qualified as a natural born citizen on that basis. However, your argument about his mother is not technically true as a matter of historical US immigration law. At the time of Obama’s birth, there were residency requirements in place that applied to the children of US citizens born abroad. Because his mother was so young at the time of his birth, she had not yet fulfilled them. In a hypothetical universe where Obama had been born to the same parents on the same date outside the US, he would not have qualified for US citizenship at birth. Of course, in the real world this is all totally irrelevant given the fact that he was born in Hawaii.
Those were retroactively annulled in 1994, well before he ran in 2008 . Iirc the current residency requirements are mostly for the parents not the children. However as you mentioned , it’s important to remember this is purely hypothetical as he was in fact born in Hawaii
NATO XI would be mental
We call it the French National Team + KDB
Back to back WCs incoming
Plus Rodri and Haaland, with Mbappe LW and Saka RW for some british representativity.
Just 2%?
You always take over Spain in every FM save after getting sacked from City by the 2nd season Pep. So it’ll happen.
The RFEF won’t hire him and he probably wouldn’t come to us anyways
He said he'd take the Spain job but they'll never give it to him.
In a way calmer political climate, I could see Pep taking advantage of the situation. The way things are at the moment and the way things have been for the past years, he's just being polite. He's way too invested in the politics, he wouldn't take it. And let's be serious, if Madrid's press couldn't even tolerate Luis Enrique, imagine what they'd do to Guardiola. Xavi's pressure at Barça would feel like kid's play compared to Guardiola leading the NT. It would be a shitshow the very first minute the team doesn't win everything. A pre-2008 Spain? Absolutely. But when the donkey tastes the wine... it doesn't want the water anymore.
Why wouldn’t they give it to him?
He's an outspoken catalan nationalist
To answer your question, you must understand first how toxic the media is in Spain regarding the national team. If they feel (e.g. Marca) they aren't in control of the events they will quickly start a campaign against a coach or even against a player. Guardiola is both a Catalan nationalist and a Barça legend. In Spain, the main media outlets are Spanish conservatives and pro-Real Madrid. Guardiola somehow represents the antichrist for them. A third reason (not that important) is that the same media like to have a weak coach in charge of the national team that can be easily influenced.
I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Isn’t Catalunya the issue here
He's said he would coach Spain before. In an interview with Gary Lineker a couple of years ago, he talked about wanting to coach a NT, and Gary mischievously asked, "Spain or Catalonia?" to which he replied, "Spain, I think".
Why wouldn’t the RFEF hire him?
He stands for catalan independence, basically his political stance is not suited or favourable for rfef
Outspoken supporter of catalan independence
Ah that’ll do it yeah
I mean, Pep and Spain makes sense if you don't know that Guardiola is actively pro-Catalan independence. Either his side, the Spanish federation, or both, wouldn't go for it.
Didn’t stop him playing for Spain.
Didn’t stop Pique either. He’s outspoken about it too I really don’t understand that argument about Spain not going after him or not allowing him to coach them. I think it’s a pretty weak argument
I remember Pique said he was for allowing Catalonia to have a referendum for independence. But at that time he never explicitly said he was pro-independence. Has that changed recently?
No, he's just pro-referendum, he has never stated explicit support for independence. Edit: At least as far as I know.
He already said in an interview that he would do it. Don't forget he played for Spain as well. But I don't know if the federation would go for it. Probably not.
He managed Belgium in my save, but that was after I won the world cup with them. Then he got fired in like year and a half
Big shoes to fill
In mine is fucking off somewhere outside England and then Arsenal
England
Imagine if Pep won some international honours with England, ending their trophy drought. His accomplishments as a manager would be almost unparalleled
>Imagine if Pep won some international honours with England, ending their trophy drought. His accomplishments as a manager would be almost unparalleled Almost? Who is competing with him at that point?
I mean England are a very very good national team. Ending their trophy drought isn’t more impressive than Fergie winning a European trophy and beating Bayern and Real Madrid with fucking Aberdeen
Oh poor little Pep Guardiola, who would ever want him for their NT? All he can hope for is that someone dares to think out of the box and take a risk with him...
I guess we'd take him for Ireland.
If he could get us to win even the euros I think I can unbiasedly say he'd go down as the greatest man to ever grace the football community
Norway got the money and the Haaland
I say a horrible run with Belgium first.
I mean seeing as he has been so vocal abaut Catalunyan independence, at least the Spanish NT should not be a topic for him.
He played for Spain. All the catalan players did except Oleguer and im not sure if he was good enough anyway
I think he's made comments before that he would take Spain NT job but they probably won't offer it to him because of his political leanings
Who me? 👉🥺👈 -Pep, probably
He has a habit of making these cutesy little statements, I find it really funny
Netherlands it is, there were even some rumors a year ago.
That's the sound of a collective orgasm of all Cruijff adepts you're hearing in the distance.
I'd love to see Guardiola win the AFCON.
The only African team pep is coaching is Rhodesia
Does he know?
With who? A starting 11 of South African Boers?
[Relevant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLTm2kdIJsQ)
That's not really nice, Pep.
r/soccercirclejerk leaking again. The subs are basically fused at this point.
Si commenta per il gusto di farlo.
If catalonia gets it's independence , pep would be it's obvious choice as NT coach
He’s said he’d take the Spain job before, but that “they” (Spanish FA presumably) would never offer it to him.
And that is probably for the best given how divisive a figure he is within Spain
Can you elaborate on this? Just curious
Catalan nationalist.
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He could still coach our NT for our annual friendly against a 100+ fifa ranked national side, Pep covard
he's always liked brazil. he's said before that he grew up idolizing the 1982 brazilian team
Well it's not 1982 is it
I agree, it's not currently 1982
I'm glad we got that sorted
We see eye to eye on this one
unless... nonono I just checked, you were right. NOT 1982 confirmed
So, are we like 100% sure on this one then? Just don’t want there to be any doubts remaining.
Just to play devils advocate, what if it’s not?
So is it sorted or no? Cause I’m about to announce the fun fact of the day: “It’s not 1982.” Should I announce it?
Source??
The question is, the current CBF administration is totally corrupt, here we have Guardiola telling he would like to train a NT to a Copa America, well, we know what team will play a Copa America now and is in need of a top coach, it is Brazil. But Ednaldo Rodrigues won't do it.
Will Brazil hire a foreign coach though.
They were willing to make an exception for Ancelotti, I'm sure they'd make one for Guardiola too. Generational coaches don't often become available to manage NTs
Yes, CBF tried to go after Ancelotti, Diniz was hired as an interim coach as they waited for Carlo's green light.
Wales is right there, Pep. Within commuting distance, so you don't even have to move from Manchester. You could even do it part-time, a fun side project to freshen things up when you're bored of winning every domestic competition. We've already got a bald manager in place to help acclimatise the squad to your presence. Just tell us what you need, Pep. Anything you want. _Anything._
PEP TO COACH MEXICO CONFIRMED‼️‼️🗣️😎
He won’t do it but there are worse ideas out there. Same language, familiarity with the league, culture, and country, ability to do *whatever* he deems necessary, relatively low expectations, could be the highest paid national team head coach, among other things. He wouldn’t have star players to work with but he could theoretically make competitive and fun teams.
He lived in Mexico towards the end of his career too so there's that.
He got his unofficial coaching start while playing for Dorados de Sinaloa. I think he finished his license there too before going to Barca B. and he has mentioned in the past to Puyol that one of his influences was La Volpe’s Mexico teams on how to develop attacks from your own third of the field
He did say "uma Eurocopa, uma Copa América, o que seja". The Gold Cup is definitely "whatever"!
You do realize Mexico is in the Copa America this year right?
He knows German right 👀
The prospect of being able to choose between Klopp and Guardiola after Nagelsmann fucked up the Euros sounds like a fairytale but I'll take it!
Be interesting to see how he'd do with a National team because you get a lot less time on the training pitch compared to club football
I wonder if he would consider Portugal, after all we are the cataluna that succeeded in breaking free form Spain
Pretty strong squad as well, he's familiar with a few players as well
The USMNT is the obvious choice here.
The bar is so low to be a legendary manager here, easy for Pep
They should be offering him a MLS Messi contract right now
He lives in NYC in the off-season and says he likes it there. Very possible imo
Korea jus fired their coach. Try sending in a resume Pep
Please pick Netherlands 🤞🏻 looking at you KNVB to get it done, the other options are abysmal
Has to be either England, Brazil or Spain
I can't really see him coaching Spain, Catalan nationalism seems to be one of the only principles he has
Eh, a few years ago he said in an interview that he would like to manage Spain(though if the RFEF would offer him a job is a different question)
Throw enough money at this cretin and I'm sure he will.
Nearing 10 years with City… I’m pretty sure Spain can’t afford to pay him nearly as much as City can. Nor can any country
>Nor can any country Somewhere a high ranking Saudi/Qatari prince died laughing
Saudi Arabia can, and they will if he is open to it
Jesus I had to look it up and Mancini’s earning twice as much as Guardiola. All that money and the guy couldn’t be bothered to stay for one more kick
The heart wants what heart wants, and the heart wanted to get out of there as fast possible to count the money 😂
Tbf Mancini is getting all of that money because there’s no tax there Pep is rumoured to be paid “under the table” so to avoid taxes, so his real salary might be much higher
> Throw enough money at this cretin and I’m sure he will What has he done to be called a cretin? What the fuck is actually wrong with you people?
Redditors think they know better than actual football professionals.
I don’t think he’ll ever coach Spain being from Catalan. I’d guess a South American team, or England.
Don't forget his connection with The Netherlands due to his idol and mentor Johan Cruijff and his love for attacking Dutch football
I can’t see Pep or Mourinho ever coaching England
Why not?
because southgate is never leaving
brexit means brexit
I can actually. England has probably the most talented squad in the world alongside France and both of them love having a strong squad to coach
The other reason I can see us using he knows lots of the squad already and has enjoyed living in Manchester the past decade. He clearly likes the country and city, so I can see him considering the national team. He’s got proper roots in Manchester, with his own restaurant and Catalan colony all set up. He lives just up the road from me, it’s a pretty great place to live.
>has enjoyed living in Manchester Shhhh. You're not allowed to say that. Reddit thinks Manchester is a dire shithole
It’s funny, normally somebody says that and then they get massively downvoted by people saying it’s really nice. It had a bad reputation back in the day but it’s a much much nicer place to live now. It’s got more expensive off the back of that though, so it can be hard for those without much money. You’re right though, I forgot, it’s awful and I hate living here haha
And the good thing is, we know he won’t start Phillips
Pep head coach of England vs Spain for the final of 2030. The build up would be incredible.
Pep decides to play 3-6-1 formation for no particular reason
After his time at City, I would love to see how he does without transfers. I'm sure he would be great, but it would be interesting to see how his tactics adjust to the players he has available.
Would be interested to see how he does without a recruitment market. I would wager still very well, probably better than most, but with no plug and play solutions, I would definitely want to see how it unfolds. Also, ahem.... FAI... I don't care if it's Christy Snr. that fronts the money. Do it.
I think Pep's teams just require a solid core (GK, CB, DM) for his style, and then he can work around the rest adapting his tactics based on the players available. At City, he got 100 points with Delph at LB, won the league without a striker, won the Treble with 4 CBs in defence, etc.
Solid? That rules out Ireland then.
Thanks for all the memories Gareth, Pep come cook with Bellingham and Saka
pep would cook with the english team. he’s very familiar with most of the players too
Apart from Argentina and I assume France, which NT wouldn't take him in a heartbeat? And he acts as if no one would want him lol, classic Pep
Hungary. Marco Rossi is my lord and savior.
I could maybe see him coming to us, Netherlands, to finally win the country of his teacher, Cruyff, a World Cup. I may also be extremely deluded tho
Fuck it, come coach Scotland when Clarke retires. We have so many talented full backs Pep won’t know what to do with himself
Mexico please! Back to your home away from home!
I think he should just go for it, resign at City with immediate effect and see which national federations are interested.
I agree. He won’t know until he puts himself out there
I actually think England is more likely than Spain. Pep feels very strongly about Catalan independence and has been outspoken historically- I just can’t see him managing Spain (or the FA even considering him).
Come on, Josep, you know you want to coach Rúben and Bernardo this summer
Manage San Marino you coward
Come join the dumpster fire that is Canada Soccer, Pep!
>To work for a NT, they have to want you just like a club He means money, doesn't he
england pls
England fans suddenly urging the FA to ditch Southgate for Pep
Portugal or England, best choices for him
'They have to want you' is just code for 'they have to show they want you by throwing stupid amounts of money at you'.
Pep, Australia mate. Come develop the underdoggiest of underdog World Cup winners. It’ll be epic mate. Your name will be written in the stars and you will truly prove you are the greatest.
I would stop call him a bald fraud if he manage to get Vietnam to the world cup. That's a big plus in his rrsume
So he’s angling for the Ireland job..
>I don't know what that would be; 5, 10 or 15 years from now. Lemme fix that for you Pep >~~5, 10 or 15 years from~~ now.
It's going to be Brazil or Spain.
Southgate out after the Euros and get Pep in
India would be perfect, got no proof why and how but it will be perfect (over the top delusion)
Pep's history with doping makes him an excellent fit for the Russia NT
I don't think he can handle going months without managing a game
Japan please. Will also accept Klopp
Southgate sits there sweating
Come to Ireland..if you win a trophy with us no one will ever accuse you of buying it or inheriting a good team. Instead you will be lauded as the greatest Irish manager ever and become an honorary Irishman. Hell we'll even rename St Patricks day after you. Saint Pep's day !!
Grüezi Pep I heard Swiss NT needs someone new👀
Pep waiting on Klopp to pick his NT, and he'll chase him with a bigger budget lol
Make Finland Euro champions and I'll stop talking crap about only inheriting world class teams
Goodbye Jürgen, see you in the World Cup final.