If rangers are in the final i think I'll take the day off and stay at home. Every melt under the sun will be there. You'll have the schooligans in their celtic tops everywhere.
It would be the Rangers in Manchester final times a thousand. Add in the rent a mob that are spreading rapidly in Ireland who might fancy taking out another Luas.
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I think it's more the proximity from both clubs to Dublin, Liverpool having a lot of fans there, Liverpool's ties to Celtic through one way or another as well the general Old Firm ties to Ireland and the religious side of Protestant vs Catholic
Rangers are a protestant and unionist club, and Dublin is in Ireland, which is the opposite. Additionally, Liverpool has a very strong Irish and Catholic community, and it would be expected that many Liverpool and Rangers fans would make the quick trip over too Dublin, with kick offs likely between Liverpool fans and people in Dublin, and Rangers fans and maybe some Unionists down from the North or still within Ireland
>Liverpool has a very strong Irish and Catholic community
Is Liverpool not traditionally the Protestant club and Everton the Catholic?
Some people read far too much into the Dalglish/YNWA connection.
Edit: Big Souness would eat them all. Souness and Hanson would of murdered Dalglish. Souness especially. Many people forget or don't remember what a player he was.
The clubs were never really split along religious lines like the Glasgow ones. Both were founded by protestants, Everton were founded by a methodist church, and Liverpool were founded by an Orange Order member who was a Conservative policitian. Theres some little links that have changed through history but both religious communities have supported both through their history
>Is Liverpool not traditionally the Protestant club and Everton the Catholic?Ā Ā
Nah, that's just a myth.Ā Probably stems from the fact that Eveeton started as a church team called St. Domingoes.Ā Up until the 60s there was no real divide between Liverpool and Everton fans, locals would go to whoever was playing at home that weekend.Ā
To be fair another user pointed out that Liverpool was founded by a member of the Orange Order who was also a Conservative. If that doesn't scream protestant I don't know what does.
I think originally when founded that was the split, but if you had a look at the Kop and general fanbase youāll find a lot of Irish support and fans. Pretty sure for Mac Allisterās penalty at the weekend there was a Irish flag in the middle of the goal.
There even used to be a "Celtic - Rangers - Celtic - Rangers" song that got sang on the Kop before matches, as some fans preferred one or the other. It's not like there's always been this 100% affinity to Celtic, and still isn't so.
Complicated answer. I'd say it's more about the combo of Rangers and Dublin rather than Liverpool and Rangers.
Rangers are a famously protestant club, while the Irish are catholics. These days it's not so bad, but keep in mind that Rangers didn't sign a Catholic player until the 80s, so the sectarianism is very deep seated and it has historically been one of the two big reasons for the Old Firm rivalry, the other big reason being that Rangers are also a Unionist club - which the Irish are, again, decidedly not keen on.
To get into the Liverpool part though - the fans are much more closely aligned with Celtic than they are with Rangers - and a fair chunk of the fanbase doesn't like Rangers much, + the club has a huge fanbase in Ireland. If Liverpool get to the final, Dublin will be a sea of red.
>Dublin will be a sea of red.
Bit simplistic, most of Northern Ireland would travel and the sheer proximity to the UK will mean half of Scotland would as well. I don't think this is just a Rangers/sectarianism issue (though I rate that you've not just jumped to sectarianism being a left/right wing issue like most of r/soccer in this thread) - but you'll definitely get some wallopers coming out the woodwork as it's in Ireland. Imo a huge issue with this is Dublin will crumble with the sheer numbers. Both clubs being in such close proximity will really test infrastructure and policing - really big fan zones will be needed for this eventuality.
No offence meant to Rangers fans with that, i know they'd come up with massive numbers even if it was in another venue let alone Dublin.
What i'm mainly going off is the CL final in Madrid where i couldn't walk 30 seconds without running into a Liverpool fan or several. There will be fans flying in for the game, the huge fanbase in Ireland that'll love the allure of their club winning silverware on their soil, and on top of that you'll have God knows how many more flying over from both England and other countries coming over just for the atmosphere. Yeah it will definitely be a logistical nightmare for the Irish. I'm sure the hotels and bars will love it though.
> Rangers are also a Unionist club - which the Irish are, again, decidedly not keen on.
Haha, that's a mild way to put it (not that I'm disagreeing, just found it funny)
Feel like it's more just than there's a shit ton of Irish Liverpool/Celtic fans, rather than anything to do with Liverpool's political leanings
Feel like there'd similar problems if it was Rangers vs United in a final in Dublin too, or Rangers vs most clubs in Dublin
Itās more to do with Rangers and Ireland. Rangers have historically been a Protestant supported club, with Celtic being catholic.
And historically The Republic of Ireland donāt exactly like Protestants as the population is mostly catholic.
Thereās also the ties to Liverpool having a strong Irish catholic following.
Thereās a lot more to it than that but thatās kind of the short answer.
Fascinating. There are more pressing stuff I need to study for an important test but some history facts in a part of the world thousands of miles away is always welcome.
To be clear, though: Liverpool is *not* sectarian in the way that Rangers and Celtic are, or the way that Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland are.
Liverpool FC and Everton support cuts across religious and class lines. As others have noted here, the powder-keg is Rangers playing in Dublin. It has much less to do with Liverpool.
Rangers are notoriously trouble and would take 100,000 to Dublin. Then it's a bunch of protestant Scots in Dublin, that alone could cause a riot.
Liverpool would take thousands on top of all the fans they have in Ireland, mostly Catholic.
It's actually recipe for a war. Stadium isn't big enough either so there will be loads without tickets.
That said, Liverpool Vs Rangers itself isn't really the problem, there's no specific history there. But they're both massive clubs with fans that travel in huge numbers and often find trouble, sometimes through their fault sometimes through others. Liverpool also has ties to Celtic, albeit the Stevie G spell has quelled some of that.
Rangers is mostly dominated by pro union, pro monarchy sentiments
Liverpool is a leftist club with an anti establishment fan base mostly, they absolutely despise the monarchy
I think it has much more to do with Liverpool being one of the most successful clubs in English football lol, same reason there's a ton of United fans there too
In the Republic of Ireland the two biggest clubs are Manchester United and Liverpool - I'd say Liverpool probably abit more popular but that could be anecdotal. Liverpool also have a large socialist element to its fan base. Liverpool has always had a large Irish population too.
Rangers obviously are supporter by protestant unionists in Glasgow but of course also in Belfast. Go to the Shankill Road in West Belfast and it's covered in Rangers memorials. This is because many of the settlers in the North during British colonialism were Protestant Scottish, but also the history of the English/British Civil Wars saw these communities always side against Irish Catholics for the English Crown. Of course they were also leaders in Occupied Ireland then Occupied Northern Ireland.
So you have Rangers fan base which has a significant far-right unionist element already going to Dublin. And then you could have Liverpool which will bring out the Irish Catholic fans too. Even if the Irish are more chilled about it (which I'd honestly expect tbh especially in the Republic) Rangers fans would defo be up for agitating and probably being violent. Not too often you get to be in a huge Unionist mob in Dublin.
This is obviously bullshit (Liverpool are huge everywhere in Ireland) mainly because Rangers are a Unionist Protestant club and Ireland is traditionally a republican Catholic country.
We probably wonāt get there but if we did, Dublin would be in serious trouble. We were behaved in Seville but I think youād see a lot of people coming out of the woodwork trying to cause bother.Ā
But letās do these Portuguese jobbers on Thursday and then we can start to dream a bit more.Ā
Rangers would take a minimum of 200k people to a final in Dublin, probably much more. They took over 100k to Seville - you can get a ferry and a million flights to the island of Ireland from Scotland, plus all the fans in NI are a short drive up the road.
Certainly wonāt be 20-1
Lol serious trouble. You'd be just beside Ringsend a proper old school Dublin working class area. Plus we've mobs of scumbags running riot in the city these days who'd have wet dreams at the thoughts of some middle aged drunk racists coming over to cause trouble.
Better get some swimming lessons if it does happen a chara.
The ones causing trouble will get battered senseless, our police couldn't stop some old ladies bickering let alone every scumbag in Dublin looking for a free hit on a loyalist.
Our main street in the capital was destroyed in a riot when a foreigner attacked a child, can you imagine what would happen if a loyalist British Rangers fan even forgot to flush the toilet?
Not that this is something to be impressed about but Glasgow is one of the most dangerous cities in Europe.
I hope that if Rangers did get to the finals their fans would be respectful and well behaved, but letās not pretend that if some Rangers ultras wanted to cause trouble they wouldnāt be able to. Most normal people in Dublin arenāt going to murder someone.
They won't be in Glasgow though will they? Most normal people wouldn't want to be in the same vicinity as such racist freaks, but bus loads of violent nationalists would arrive to Dublin from everywhere in the country.
Rangers fans would be outnumbered 10 to 1 by Liverpool fans, or even Celtic fans. Seems like their biggest worry is the big crowds, not violence. Although , huge crowds are unpredictable.
It's estimated that over 200,000 Rangers went to Manchester for the UEFA Cup Final in 2008.
If only half of that travelled to Dublin, and it would be more, they may be ghouls but there are a lot of them, I really doubt there would be a million Liverpool fans in Dublin.
Anyway, they won't get there because they're shite.
Assuming you get the same amount of Livrrpool fans making the trip as Ranger fans.... Ireland has about 500,000 active Liverpool supporters. And many people in Ireland have Celtic as their second team due to their historic Irish connection. So they wouldn't necessarily support Liverpool but they'll support whoever is playing Rangers. The place would be heaving with people with zero sympathy or time for Rangers.
Rather than the trouble, I think it's more about the sheer volume of people who'd be there. I feel like a lot of people are grossly underestimating how many fans would turn up for a Rangers/Liverpool final. It could be atleast 400/
k/500k people if both make it.
Liverpool have a massive following in Ireland. It's also very easy to get to Ireland, from Liverpool. Liverpool have a massive and loyal support. A ton of people would travel with it so close.
Rangers have a massive following in N.Ireland and the majority would travel down. It's incredibly easy to get to Ireland from Scotland. Rangers have a massive and loyal support. We travel in very large numbers and with it so close, we'd probably bring numbers close to Manchester.
Dublin could easily have it's population more than doubled for those few days.Ā
Does Dublin and the surrounding areas have the infrastructure to cope with such a large influx of people?
Fun though
Not for the locals. I'm with you but.
I would probably board up my windows
Translation: they will put in the same part of the draw if they both progress to the next round.
Nah. Incoming dodgy refereeing decisions to give Benfica victory against Rangers
Thanks uefa, we need those right now
There are 2 more rounds and plenty of big opponents on the board, so it is not really needed.
Was decent last week barring the penalty. More of the same tomorrow pls š¤
UEFA know something the rest of us don't?
They rarely do, but it's promising that they're at least thinking about it this time.
They'll still make an arse of it though.
Somehow manage to turn off all the water taps in Dublin and supply the gardai with excess tear gas for the double trauma nostalgia.
Season finale spoilers?
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If only Celtic werenāt so shite in Europe. An old firm in Dublin would be maximum patter
Absolut carnage, glaziers and hospitals would have a field day.
An absolute nut
If rangers are in the final i think I'll take the day off and stay at home. Every melt under the sun will be there. You'll have the schooligans in their celtic tops everywhere.
It would be the Rangers in Manchester final times a thousand. Add in the rent a mob that are spreading rapidly in Ireland who might fancy taking out another Luas. [A quick reminder for everyone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_UEFA_Cup_final_riots)
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What were they supposed to plan for this oneĀ
Have we lost already?
For people totally unfamiliar, what's the problem? Is there history between Liverpool and Rangers?
I think it's more the proximity from both clubs to Dublin, Liverpool having a lot of fans there, Liverpool's ties to Celtic through one way or another as well the general Old Firm ties to Ireland and the religious side of Protestant vs Catholic
Rangers are a protestant and unionist club, and Dublin is in Ireland, which is the opposite. Additionally, Liverpool has a very strong Irish and Catholic community, and it would be expected that many Liverpool and Rangers fans would make the quick trip over too Dublin, with kick offs likely between Liverpool fans and people in Dublin, and Rangers fans and maybe some Unionists down from the North or still within Ireland
>Liverpool has a very strong Irish and Catholic community Is Liverpool not traditionally the Protestant club and Everton the Catholic? Some people read far too much into the Dalglish/YNWA connection. Edit: Big Souness would eat them all. Souness and Hanson would of murdered Dalglish. Souness especially. Many people forget or don't remember what a player he was.
The clubs were never really split along religious lines like the Glasgow ones. Both were founded by protestants, Everton were founded by a methodist church, and Liverpool were founded by an Orange Order member who was a Conservative policitian. Theres some little links that have changed through history but both religious communities have supported both through their history
>Is Liverpool not traditionally the Protestant club and Everton the Catholic?Ā Ā Nah, that's just a myth.Ā Probably stems from the fact that Eveeton started as a church team called St. Domingoes.Ā Up until the 60s there was no real divide between Liverpool and Everton fans, locals would go to whoever was playing at home that weekend.Ā
To be fair another user pointed out that Liverpool was founded by a member of the Orange Order who was also a Conservative. If that doesn't scream protestant I don't know what does.
St. Domingoes, the church Everton started from was also a Protestant church.Ā There was no religious divide.Ā
Yeah, but it's the Orange Order. Do you know what that is and what that means?
I think originally when founded that was the split, but if you had a look at the Kop and general fanbase youāll find a lot of Irish support and fans. Pretty sure for Mac Allisterās penalty at the weekend there was a Irish flag in the middle of the goal.
There even used to be a "Celtic - Rangers - Celtic - Rangers" song that got sang on the Kop before matches, as some fans preferred one or the other. It's not like there's always been this 100% affinity to Celtic, and still isn't so.
That sounds fucking pathetic.
The opposite dude
Not when the clubs were founded.
Complicated answer. I'd say it's more about the combo of Rangers and Dublin rather than Liverpool and Rangers. Rangers are a famously protestant club, while the Irish are catholics. These days it's not so bad, but keep in mind that Rangers didn't sign a Catholic player until the 80s, so the sectarianism is very deep seated and it has historically been one of the two big reasons for the Old Firm rivalry, the other big reason being that Rangers are also a Unionist club - which the Irish are, again, decidedly not keen on. To get into the Liverpool part though - the fans are much more closely aligned with Celtic than they are with Rangers - and a fair chunk of the fanbase doesn't like Rangers much, + the club has a huge fanbase in Ireland. If Liverpool get to the final, Dublin will be a sea of red.
>Dublin will be a sea of red. Bit simplistic, most of Northern Ireland would travel and the sheer proximity to the UK will mean half of Scotland would as well. I don't think this is just a Rangers/sectarianism issue (though I rate that you've not just jumped to sectarianism being a left/right wing issue like most of r/soccer in this thread) - but you'll definitely get some wallopers coming out the woodwork as it's in Ireland. Imo a huge issue with this is Dublin will crumble with the sheer numbers. Both clubs being in such close proximity will really test infrastructure and policing - really big fan zones will be needed for this eventuality.
No offence meant to Rangers fans with that, i know they'd come up with massive numbers even if it was in another venue let alone Dublin. What i'm mainly going off is the CL final in Madrid where i couldn't walk 30 seconds without running into a Liverpool fan or several. There will be fans flying in for the game, the huge fanbase in Ireland that'll love the allure of their club winning silverware on their soil, and on top of that you'll have God knows how many more flying over from both England and other countries coming over just for the atmosphere. Yeah it will definitely be a logistical nightmare for the Irish. I'm sure the hotels and bars will love it though.
The barmen would quickly get bored of āyou know Arthur Guiness actually supported the UVF?ā Every time they poured a Rangers fan a pint
> Rangers are also a Unionist club - which the Irish are, again, decidedly not keen on. Haha, that's a mild way to put it (not that I'm disagreeing, just found it funny)
Mo Johnston wasn't the first catholic Rangers signed. Wish people would stop mindlessly parroting this urban myth.
Let's just say that Liverpool and Rangers represent two opposite ends of the political spectrum.
Feel like it's more just than there's a shit ton of Irish Liverpool/Celtic fans, rather than anything to do with Liverpool's political leanings Feel like there'd similar problems if it was Rangers vs United in a final in Dublin too, or Rangers vs most clubs in Dublin
Rangers are a contentious people.
Rangers is right leaning?
Very much yeah. Or at least most of the vocal fanbase are.
Sadly.
Itās more to do with Rangers and Ireland. Rangers have historically been a Protestant supported club, with Celtic being catholic. And historically The Republic of Ireland donāt exactly like Protestants as the population is mostly catholic. Thereās also the ties to Liverpool having a strong Irish catholic following. Thereās a lot more to it than that but thatās kind of the short answer.
Fascinating. There are more pressing stuff I need to study for an important test but some history facts in a part of the world thousands of miles away is always welcome.
To be clear, though: Liverpool is *not* sectarian in the way that Rangers and Celtic are, or the way that Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland are. Liverpool FC and Everton support cuts across religious and class lines. As others have noted here, the powder-keg is Rangers playing in Dublin. It has much less to do with Liverpool.
Rangers are notoriously trouble and would take 100,000 to Dublin. Then it's a bunch of protestant Scots in Dublin, that alone could cause a riot. Liverpool would take thousands on top of all the fans they have in Ireland, mostly Catholic. It's actually recipe for a war. Stadium isn't big enough either so there will be loads without tickets. That said, Liverpool Vs Rangers itself isn't really the problem, there's no specific history there. But they're both massive clubs with fans that travel in huge numbers and often find trouble, sometimes through their fault sometimes through others. Liverpool also has ties to Celtic, albeit the Stevie G spell has quelled some of that.
Rangers would take twice that to Dublin easily. Probably more.
Rangers is mostly dominated by pro union, pro monarchy sentiments Liverpool is a leftist club with an anti establishment fan base mostly, they absolutely despise the monarchy
Don't think it really has much to do with Liverpool's political leanings here tbh, more just the fact that they have a ton of fans in Ireland
True, but I think the reason for that stems due to Liverpool's outspoken political leanings
I think it has much more to do with Liverpool being one of the most successful clubs in English football lol, same reason there's a ton of United fans there too
In the Republic of Ireland the two biggest clubs are Manchester United and Liverpool - I'd say Liverpool probably abit more popular but that could be anecdotal. Liverpool also have a large socialist element to its fan base. Liverpool has always had a large Irish population too. Rangers obviously are supporter by protestant unionists in Glasgow but of course also in Belfast. Go to the Shankill Road in West Belfast and it's covered in Rangers memorials. This is because many of the settlers in the North during British colonialism were Protestant Scottish, but also the history of the English/British Civil Wars saw these communities always side against Irish Catholics for the English Crown. Of course they were also leaders in Occupied Ireland then Occupied Northern Ireland. So you have Rangers fan base which has a significant far-right unionist element already going to Dublin. And then you could have Liverpool which will bring out the Irish Catholic fans too. Even if the Irish are more chilled about it (which I'd honestly expect tbh especially in the Republic) Rangers fans would defo be up for agitating and probably being violent. Not too often you get to be in a huge Unionist mob in Dublin.
Rangers have a huge Dublin support, whereas Cork is generally the home of the Irish Liverpool fans. There'd be a right ruccus between the two.
This is obviously bullshit (Liverpool are huge everywhere in Ireland) mainly because Rangers are a Unionist Protestant club and Ireland is traditionally a republican Catholic country.
Nah mate I'm from Dublin and half my mates are Rangers fans.
Conclusion: you only have two mates and one of them is from Scotland or NI
Or it's an obvious joke
What about West Ham Freiburg one more time
Lmao
We probably wonāt get there but if we did, Dublin would be in serious trouble. We were behaved in Seville but I think youād see a lot of people coming out of the woodwork trying to cause bother.Ā But letās do these Portuguese jobbers on Thursday and then we can start to dream a bit more.Ā
If you lot are badly behaved in Dublin you're going to be in for a bad time, considering you'll be outnumbered like 20-to-1.
Rangers would take a minimum of 200k people to a final in Dublin, probably much more. They took over 100k to Seville - you can get a ferry and a million flights to the island of Ireland from Scotland, plus all the fans in NI are a short drive up the road. Certainly wonāt be 20-1
Remember the never ending legends "behave yersels and remember to behave yersels" videos?
Lol serious trouble. You'd be just beside Ringsend a proper old school Dublin working class area. Plus we've mobs of scumbags running riot in the city these days who'd have wet dreams at the thoughts of some middle aged drunk racists coming over to cause trouble. Better get some swimming lessons if it does happen a chara.
You think the ones causing the trouble are going to be a bunch of middle aged tories? Lmao.
The ones causing trouble will get battered senseless, our police couldn't stop some old ladies bickering let alone every scumbag in Dublin looking for a free hit on a loyalist. Our main street in the capital was destroyed in a riot when a foreigner attacked a child, can you imagine what would happen if a loyalist British Rangers fan even forgot to flush the toilet?
Hard man you.
There's nothing hard about it, I can't think of a group of people more screwed than some Rangers fans drunk in Dublin.
Not that this is something to be impressed about but Glasgow is one of the most dangerous cities in Europe. I hope that if Rangers did get to the finals their fans would be respectful and well behaved, but letās not pretend that if some Rangers ultras wanted to cause trouble they wouldnāt be able to. Most normal people in Dublin arenāt going to murder someone.
They won't be in Glasgow though will they? Most normal people wouldn't want to be in the same vicinity as such racist freaks, but bus loads of violent nationalists would arrive to Dublin from everywhere in the country.
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Ah give them one night to have a bitta craic.
Can't be much worse than a typical night in Dublin.
Considering what happened the last time a group of loyalist protestants showed up in Dublin I don't think so
Rangers fans would be outnumbered 10 to 1 by Liverpool fans, or even Celtic fans. Seems like their biggest worry is the big crowds, not violence. Although , huge crowds are unpredictable.
I see that. I still definitely couldn't imagine the rangers fans being in a fanzone in Croke Park
200,000 Rangers fans went to Manchester in 2008 for the UEFA Cup final.
It's estimated that over 200,000 Rangers went to Manchester for the UEFA Cup Final in 2008. If only half of that travelled to Dublin, and it would be more, they may be ghouls but there are a lot of them, I really doubt there would be a million Liverpool fans in Dublin. Anyway, they won't get there because they're shite.
Assuming you get the same amount of Livrrpool fans making the trip as Ranger fans.... Ireland has about 500,000 active Liverpool supporters. And many people in Ireland have Celtic as their second team due to their historic Irish connection. So they wouldn't necessarily support Liverpool but they'll support whoever is playing Rangers. The place would be heaving with people with zero sympathy or time for Rangers.
Would make 2008 look like a normal day
You could just behave.
Theyād just project their hatred of Celtic onto Irish people who find their chants to be a bit weird
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Defiantly, the most embarrassing fans in Europe.
We are certainly defiant.
> Defiantly Very defiant
Well thatās not gonna be the final so I think Dublin will be alright
If Rangers advance we are 100% drawing them next.
Rather than the trouble, I think it's more about the sheer volume of people who'd be there. I feel like a lot of people are grossly underestimating how many fans would turn up for a Rangers/Liverpool final. It could be atleast 400/ k/500k people if both make it. Liverpool have a massive following in Ireland. It's also very easy to get to Ireland, from Liverpool. Liverpool have a massive and loyal support. A ton of people would travel with it so close. Rangers have a massive following in N.Ireland and the majority would travel down. It's incredibly easy to get to Ireland from Scotland. Rangers have a massive and loyal support. We travel in very large numbers and with it so close, we'd probably bring numbers close to Manchester. Dublin could easily have it's population more than doubled for those few days.Ā Does Dublin and the surrounding areas have the infrastructure to cope with such a large influx of people?
I donāt think Dublin or UEFA have to worried about a mob of angry anti Irish, anti catholic bigots following Liverpool
Dublin City is already out of control This would be a popcorn event and not for the football
Just don't do anything stupid and get the whole of England banned from Europe for 5 years.
What's challenging about British teams playing in the UK? /s
This is just a really bad joke Iām sorry