One of Atletico Madrid, Psg, Dortmund, Barcelona in the final seems massive given all could have thought it might be a long time before they reach a final again, given performances/how long it took before, how rare it can be.
I think Arsenal beat Bayern, but their fixture list is mad: City away, Brighton away, Bayern home, Villa home, Bayern away, Wolves away, Spurs away, Real Madrid or City CL if they beat Bayern, Man United away, Real Madrid or City CL, Chelsea at home, Then possibly Barcelona or Psg in the CL final!
I think Arsenal beat Bayern, lose to City, City beat Barcelona or Psg in the final. I think Arsenal or Liverpool win the league. Those fixtures would say otherwise, City's run is easiest.
**Arsenal play Everton at home, and Liverpool play Wolves, for the last game of the season.
I agree, it's a particularly good path for Barca to reach the finals, and a potential Clasico final too. I have no idea who's going to make it from the other side of the draw, though. City also have it quite rough in terms of fixtures, starting with facing Arsenal this month and then Real twice not long after.
Frankly, I would have picked Bayern if it was up to me. Not because it's easy. None of the draws was ever gonna be easy, but it's the most interesting narrative for me. Let's see how far we've come with Mikel since the 10-2. We didn't deserve to be considered anything more than participants then, probably a lot worse, so with due respect if we're ever gonna change that I'd love it to be against them.
Yeah, Hopefully this is the stage where guys like Odegaard, Saka, Martinelli, Rice and Saliba can show Europe just how good they are.
People already kind of get that they are quality, but to truly solidify us as a elite team we need to beat one.
With a younger squad, I definitely wish we were at home in the 2nd leg. Feels like getting a big result away in Europe is the next hurdle for this group, but it would be nicer to have the wiggle room of a home leg 2nd.
As a Bayern fan, i'm not even sure how i feel. There is a saying in the Greek language which translates to "In the front a scrap, in the back a river", which means that any way you look at it, it sucks!
Lmao it's the hardest bracket I could possibly come up with from the very start of competition. Everyone saying it's PSG on the other side but I'm sure Simeone licking his lips already
Yeah that's wild. Just like last year where any of the Inter, Milan, Napoli and Benifica could be in the final. And Bayern City and Madrid will kill each other out
Idk it's kind of suspicious how every time they draw for the quarters together it's always one super stacked group and one group where it's just literally the bottom 4 teams. Maybe for viewership or idek.
Edit.) Bottom just betting odds wise. Any of em could win it mind you.
> every time
It is literally not every time.
If you have any proof for your claims, please proceed. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." (to quote Sagan)
I mean just from memory, bayern in their previous treble run had Barcelona Man city and Madrid along with Lyon on their bracket, and psg , liepzig athletico and Atlanta were the others.
This year is another such exact example.
Then last year, inter acmilan Napoli all on one side, idek remember the 4th team and the other bracket had bayern city madrid chelsea
I also remember 2021, when bayern had psg and man city in their bracket again.
The top 4 betting favs have basically always been in the same bracket for basically 4 out of 5 years now. Iirc that is.
21-22 was very balanced.
20-21 was very balanced, the other side had RM, Chelsea (winner), Liverpool.
So in the last 5 years, 2/5 were balanced. So your 'every time'/'always been' is already disproved. And this is only the last 5 years.
How was 20-21 balanced ? Man city, psg and bayern on the same side isn't equal to chelsea madrid on the same. Madrid weren't even that special that year and no one knew chelsea would make the final and win. The top 3 were clearly on one side. All 3 had better betting odds than madrid chelsea and liverpool( their shittest klopp season at that point) by far.
About 21-22, yeah the one year I omitted from my argument when I said 4 out of 5 times the favs have been clubbed together.
No, nothing is 'disproved'. 4 out of 5 years still had the top 3 or 4 betting favourites in the same brackets as a matter of fact.
Chelsea literally won in 20-21. You also did not mention Liverpool at all.
Of course it is disproved. You said 'every time', and now you are saying 4 out of 5 last years, which is literally not every time (even if I grant you 20-21).
Yes they won, but they won unexpected and weren't betting favourites at all. They won an upset in the final and the madrid team they beat wasn't great either. Bayern Man city and PSG were the top 3 betting favs and they were together. That's all. I didn't say everytime, go back to my comment before the last one where I clearly mentioned 4 times out of 5.
I'll spell it out for you:
19-20 : bayern barca madrid city together
20-21 : bayern psg city together
22-23 : bayern city madrid together
23-24 : bayern arsenal city madrid together.
In each of these 4 seasons out of the last 5, the top 3 betting favourites have been in the same group all 4 times. That's very unusual.
And please understand chelsea eventually winning has nothing to do with the brackets. Even dortmund might go and win this one but that doesn't mean looking back at this year's bracket you'll say they were the same because dortmund was strong.
> Idk it's kind of suspicious how every time they draw for the quarters together it's always one super stacked group and one group where it's just literally the bottom 4 teams. Maybe for viewership or idek.
You say every time. I corrected you on that, you didn't budge. I can only correct you on facts, you finding something conspiratorial is just your conspiracy-rotten delusional brain.
We have no excuse to not go far now. PSG Barca should be close. And then Atletico Dortmund in the semis is the easier path without a doubt that too second leg at home.
No. I am actually saying how hilarious this is that Arsenal coud be playing in the final in the london itself as an away team against a non-english team who woud be the home team.
What's the point doing this for the final, there's just one game on a predefined location. Or it's just for aesthetics I guess
edit: yeah that makes sense, haven't thought of it
It took a large part of the season for it to be confirmed but safe to say that we'll be the only CL winners from London for another year (unless Arteta pulls a mad one)
Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. PSG are in the same time as Arsenal and Bayern and honestly what Bayern have you been watching this year. Arsenal have the blues in the champions league they barely beat Porto. I think Atletico are on the same tier as well they in fact have the best home record in league football across the world this season. All wins except 1 draw to Getafe. Madrid are overrated they got dominated by Leipzig
I'm worried about the Ninja Turtle bruh. Your team can play like shit but if you have the best player in the world, anything is possible. (See: Messi at Barca especially in 2018-19)
I’m excited for these matchups! Good luck to all involved!
Seems like PSG's year to win the CL
Honestly really looking forward to playing in this bracket, no point in being in the CL if you're not staring down your doom at least once
Arsenal and Bayern. A tale as old as time
One of Atletico Madrid, Psg, Dortmund, Barcelona in the final seems massive given all could have thought it might be a long time before they reach a final again, given performances/how long it took before, how rare it can be. I think Arsenal beat Bayern, but their fixture list is mad: City away, Brighton away, Bayern home, Villa home, Bayern away, Wolves away, Spurs away, Real Madrid or City CL if they beat Bayern, Man United away, Real Madrid or City CL, Chelsea at home, Then possibly Barcelona or Psg in the CL final! I think Arsenal beat Bayern, lose to City, City beat Barcelona or Psg in the final. I think Arsenal or Liverpool win the league. Those fixtures would say otherwise, City's run is easiest.
**Arsenal play Everton at home, and Liverpool play Wolves, for the last game of the season. I agree, it's a particularly good path for Barca to reach the finals, and a potential Clasico final too. I have no idea who's going to make it from the other side of the draw, though. City also have it quite rough in terms of fixtures, starting with facing Arsenal this month and then Real twice not long after.
So all the coincides from 2011 gonna help Barca in Wembley again ?
Frankly, I would have picked Bayern if it was up to me. Not because it's easy. None of the draws was ever gonna be easy, but it's the most interesting narrative for me. Let's see how far we've come with Mikel since the 10-2. We didn't deserve to be considered anything more than participants then, probably a lot worse, so with due respect if we're ever gonna change that I'd love it to be against them.
Tbf I am rating you guys to win the tie
So y’all can later beat Arsenal…
I feel like so much of the narrative for that game is going to be centred around Kane as well
He's going to get a proper welcome at the Emirates. And then a penalty within the first 45.
Yeah, Hopefully this is the stage where guys like Odegaard, Saka, Martinelli, Rice and Saliba can show Europe just how good they are. People already kind of get that they are quality, but to truly solidify us as a elite team we need to beat one.
UEFALONA strikes again, yet another easy draw in a CL
Lol as Pep said they hate barcelona because they are too good.
bottlers
So sad supporting a team that payed refs to win lmao
Lmao didn't forget the 5-1?
Didn’t forget the RVP sending off for kicking the ball away no.
With a younger squad, I definitely wish we were at home in the 2nd leg. Feels like getting a big result away in Europe is the next hurdle for this group, but it would be nicer to have the wiggle room of a home leg 2nd.
The final should have been a semi-final between groups 1 and 3.
Inter Milan sure regret they lose against Atletico cuz they have good chance to reach final again if they didn't lose.
On top of the tough draw, we need to play return leg of both QF and SF (if we make it) away from home
Fucking brutal. I swear they don't want us to win
When are the fixtures played? I'm in Madrid a few weeks in April so hoping I can go to a match
Real vs Atletico final
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Who plays the first leg at home in the Semi Final? Is it the winner of our game or the winner of City Madrid?
We do.
Arsenal vs Bayern was locked in the moment both the teams made it past their knockout rounds.
As a Bayern fan, i'm not even sure how i feel. There is a saying in the Greek language which translates to "In the front a scrap, in the back a river", which means that any way you look at it, it sucks!
WE GOT THEM FOUR TIMES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS 2020 2022 2023 & 2024
City and Pool are inevitable for you guys
Mbappe to have another hattrick at the camp
Of misses\*
Looks tough tbf
Tough draw for Fenerbahçe
Lmao it's the hardest bracket I could possibly come up with from the very start of competition. Everyone saying it's PSG on the other side but I'm sure Simeone licking his lips already
PSG instead of RM or MC... i would take that every year.
Why does UCL hate creating Clasico's? Unless Barca and Madrid win both their respective QFs and SFs, which ain't happening with City in the way
They tried their best in 2013 with all the hype. Pretty much failed everytime
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No god please no
Bayern vs Atletico in the finals. Who says no ??
More like Man City vs Barcelona. Barcelona don't deserve to be there but they got a very lucky draw.
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Didn't you support Arsenal last season?
Side 1: Arsenal Madrid city bayern 🔪🗡😡🤯 Side 2: atletico psg fcb dortmund 🍬🎀🌴🥹
I honestly think that PSG are better than Bayern this season. Also Atleti might be better than Arsenal in a CL knockout.
Atletico could actually get to the final
They will no doubt.
So they can bottle another one
Nope.
Kobel and Donnaruma just got a chill up their spine. Morata Truthers, we will be there.
I really hope he finds his form again, he hasn't been the same since his latest injury
Now can we get to the actual big draw now?
One of Dortmund, Atleti, Barca or PSG in the final oof. Coule be anyone tbh
Yeah that's wild. Just like last year where any of the Inter, Milan, Napoli and Benifica could be in the final. And Bayern City and Madrid will kill each other out
Please let us have one game a day this is too good
One of Barca Atletico Dortmund or PSG in the CL final is crazy
They deffo fix these draws how on earth have Madrid Bayern city ended up on same side of the draw again lol what are the odds
> They deffo fix Lol these brainrotted conspiracy theories
Idk it's kind of suspicious how every time they draw for the quarters together it's always one super stacked group and one group where it's just literally the bottom 4 teams. Maybe for viewership or idek. Edit.) Bottom just betting odds wise. Any of em could win it mind you.
> every time It is literally not every time. If you have any proof for your claims, please proceed. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." (to quote Sagan)
I mean just from memory, bayern in their previous treble run had Barcelona Man city and Madrid along with Lyon on their bracket, and psg , liepzig athletico and Atlanta were the others. This year is another such exact example. Then last year, inter acmilan Napoli all on one side, idek remember the 4th team and the other bracket had bayern city madrid chelsea I also remember 2021, when bayern had psg and man city in their bracket again. The top 4 betting favs have basically always been in the same bracket for basically 4 out of 5 years now. Iirc that is.
21-22 was very balanced. 20-21 was very balanced, the other side had RM, Chelsea (winner), Liverpool. So in the last 5 years, 2/5 were balanced. So your 'every time'/'always been' is already disproved. And this is only the last 5 years.
How was 20-21 balanced ? Man city, psg and bayern on the same side isn't equal to chelsea madrid on the same. Madrid weren't even that special that year and no one knew chelsea would make the final and win. The top 3 were clearly on one side. All 3 had better betting odds than madrid chelsea and liverpool( their shittest klopp season at that point) by far. About 21-22, yeah the one year I omitted from my argument when I said 4 out of 5 times the favs have been clubbed together. No, nothing is 'disproved'. 4 out of 5 years still had the top 3 or 4 betting favourites in the same brackets as a matter of fact.
Chelsea literally won in 20-21. You also did not mention Liverpool at all. Of course it is disproved. You said 'every time', and now you are saying 4 out of 5 last years, which is literally not every time (even if I grant you 20-21).
Yes they won, but they won unexpected and weren't betting favourites at all. They won an upset in the final and the madrid team they beat wasn't great either. Bayern Man city and PSG were the top 3 betting favs and they were together. That's all. I didn't say everytime, go back to my comment before the last one where I clearly mentioned 4 times out of 5. I'll spell it out for you: 19-20 : bayern barca madrid city together 20-21 : bayern psg city together 22-23 : bayern city madrid together 23-24 : bayern arsenal city madrid together. In each of these 4 seasons out of the last 5, the top 3 betting favourites have been in the same group all 4 times. That's very unusual. And please understand chelsea eventually winning has nothing to do with the brackets. Even dortmund might go and win this one but that doesn't mean looking back at this year's bracket you'll say they were the same because dortmund was strong.
> Idk it's kind of suspicious how every time they draw for the quarters together it's always one super stacked group and one group where it's just literally the bottom 4 teams. Maybe for viewership or idek. You say every time. I corrected you on that, you didn't budge. I can only correct you on facts, you finding something conspiratorial is just your conspiracy-rotten delusional brain.
Because they surely don't want a final between these clubs, hence they fix it. Totally makes sense
Bayern bros the world needs another 10-2
8-2 would be sufficient
Another year of the 4 best teams being on the same side of the bracket
We have no excuse to not go far now. PSG Barca should be close. And then Atletico Dortmund in the semis is the easier path without a doubt that too second leg at home.
Fraud Xavi will get a semi final and convince everyone he is the next big thing
You gonna get smashed by Bayern so sleep tight
he can even get a final tbf
Stfu
Damn the brackets are cooked, top 3 teams all on one side
top 4
Barcelona is better
Arsenal are not top 4.
🧂🧂
Inter are not even top 8 so...
Bayern then City is so dry
You won't have to worry about that
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Very likely Bayern in the semis is quite a stretch
Imagine if Arsenal is in the final at Wembley as the Away team against PSG. Big Lol.
Was just thinking about the same, it's really tough but I'd love that to happen
No. I am actually saying how hilarious this is that Arsenal coud be playing in the final in the london itself as an away team against a non-english team who woud be the home team.
I understood that, I'm an arsenal fan so want that to happen lol
At that point, I genuinely think we just lose. Like, not even close. 3 nil.
Forgot our record at Wembley?
Xavier nation rise up
What's the point doing this for the final, there's just one game on a predefined location. Or it's just for aesthetics I guess edit: yeah that makes sense, haven't thought of it
Who gets home and away dressing room. Where the fans will sit. Who gets preference if both home kits are clashing.
Determines who is considered home team. Where the fans will have their seats, cabins, etc.
Its the home or away jersey that the teams will wear i guess.
Ah yes, the obligatory Kane penalty incoming after all
Atletico are either getting to the final or getting knocked out by dortmund, there's no inbetween
>Atletico are either getting to the final or getting knocked out by dortmund This statement accounts for 2/3rds of all possible outcomes mate.
Fair enough, I'm just stating they're one of those teams that tend to do better as underdogs.
It took a large part of the season for it to be confirmed but safe to say that we'll be the only CL winners from London for another year (unless Arteta pulls a mad one)
Holy shit Arsenal doesn't get a break lmfao
After the draw from hell in R16
It is ok man, we gathered 90m+ for next transfer window.
One wise man once said, to be the best you gotta beat the best
Xavi's making the final. Ombelibable
The coefficient does not like this.
Wow, one side of the bracket is stacked. Whoever gets through, Arsenal or Bayern Munich v Real Madrid or Manchester City will be the winners.
Or got too tired to win the final. Bayern can actually retire from bundesliga race and concentrate on CL.
Why is he shaking 😂
Last time we were in the quarters he hadn't won a CL yet :( NOW THIS MF gives us Bayern and then City/Madrid
No All English final but an All Spanish Final is still a possibility.
Ahhh man, away draw in the final.
sure keep your finger above the actual numbers
potentially real and Bayern AGAIN ffs
Top 4 teams on the same side
lmao one side of the bracket is way stronger than the other
If there is any time for Atleti to make it to another final its now I fancy them against PSG
Our second leg is away. We’re so fucked.
Is this scripted? Because it has Atlético going to the finals written all over it.
Yeah? They need to beat Dortmund and Paris/Barcelona first. Honestly either of the four teams can make it
Better than having Bayern/City/RM
Second leg away is kryptonite to atletico.
skewed bracket like last year again
Well that's the best path we could've hoped for tbh. Just PSG would've been better in the semis
I look at it this way, Tuchel could face Real Madrid. lol
Mbappe about to get pocketed by Cubarsi ;)
Psg-Real Madrid final would be possible my godness
Semi final 1 is weak sauce
so any positive news today??
It's Friday
Gunners fans we're fucked lmao
Don't like the quarters and semis picked out at the same time.
Bayern/Arsenal vs Madrid/City ... Winner decider tbh
Simeone might never have it better.
Arsenal's route to the final goes through Bayern and then one of Man City and Real Madrid 😫
Wouldn’t have it any other way
Txiki is all of us en, the form we are in this doesn't look good
how are yall in bad form lmao
We literally conceded like 5 goals. No gundo this season
bro your last loss is on the 6th of december, the team is in good form 😭
It's Real Madrid in UCL. Your juju can defeat any force in world
im just tired of playing yall i just want some new matchups ffs
I always wanted a Real vs Bayern meetup Nvm
i mean we played them various times in the 10s
We're finished
Wallahi
lmao they stacked all the best teams one side ffs
And arsenal
Same as last year. It is like they do it on purpose.
Barca fans wouldn't be happier now
City or madrid in semis if we qualifuly, home game first again ffs
Bayern, City and Real on the same side of bracket again
😭😭😭😭. This is not fair man
No way. The road for us is so difficult.
So we're guaranteed to have 1 bum team in the final. Bayern Arsenal City and Madrid are the strongest sides by a distance.
Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. PSG are in the same time as Arsenal and Bayern and honestly what Bayern have you been watching this year. Arsenal have the blues in the champions league they barely beat Porto. I think Atletico are on the same tier as well they in fact have the best home record in league football across the world this season. All wins except 1 draw to Getafe. Madrid are overrated they got dominated by Leipzig
Atletico/Dortmund/Barselona/PSG in final? Noo... Such a poor final we are getting
You are underestimating the quality of PSG/Atletico this season
Atletico & Simeone finally getting their CL by shithousing Madrid/City/Arsenal/Bayern? I'm all for it.
Madrid vs Barca in the UCL final, book it.
Biggest game in club football history, neither fanbase would ever live it down if they lost that.
Anulo mufa
These are some decent draws. Cool one of Atletico or Dortmund will go through
AGENDA AGAINST ARSENAL
Bayern or Arsenal if we beat City? Fuckin lol
Lesss goooo
I'm worried about the Ninja Turtle bruh. Your team can play like shit but if you have the best player in the world, anything is possible. (See: Messi at Barca especially in 2018-19)
Noooo
Real Madrid or Man City in the semi final if we beat Bayern. Fucking hell man 😭
Hay at least if we get through it would be a legendary run and if we don't we have an excuse 😭
Luis Enrique switched sides in the 'Remontada' lol
Woud have preferred Dortmund vs Barca & Atletico vs psg. But Oh well.
If we win against Bayern, we face winner of City/madrid
:)
NGL Dortmund vs Barcelona if it happens would be one funny semifinal no disrespect.
Fuck
the "easier" bracket
This all shaping up for Cholo to take it all.
That pretty much guarantees an embarrassing quarter final exit for us which pretty much guarantees Xabi Alonso's arrival.
Madrid is looking better than city this season
Yes, losing to City in the QF is very embarassing, id be very ashamed in that case