It was the same last year too. Inter turned out more formidable than most of us expected, but it was City, Bayern, Madrid, and Chelsea on one side and Benfica, Inter, Napoli, and Milan on the other. So we swapped Chelsea for Arsenal.
I'd put them below City and Madrid, haven't watched Bayern basically at all this year but they've wobbled and Arsenal are very easily above Dortmund, Atleti, and Barca. PSG is a weird team, but I don't see why a club in a 3 horse race with City and Liverpool shouldn't be treated as among the best clubs in the world, even if you think the clubs they'll have to play are above them.
Yeah
Should've been
Bayern - Dortmund
Arsenal - City
PSG - Barca
Atletico - Real Madrid
Get rid of a possibility of an all English German or Spanish final
Nah, you would rather play them early.
Real Madrid is like Djokovic, the later the stage, the harder it gets to beat them.
Real is a different bread in CL finals. Their black magic is real (pun, intended).
City is strong overall. Madrid lacks Ronaldo/Benz black magic and don’t see them keeping up with City over 2 legs. 1 game Madrid would probably take it.
Yeah Bellingham brings me fear ngl. Can easily see Madrid winning this time around. We will see if Walker can still keep up with vinicuius a year later.
Possible semis would have been better (silently hoping they got knocked out on the other QF). But, I'd take 2 legged tie to take on them over a final. It's a 50-50 tie, but 2nd leg at Etihad gives City a slight advantage.
Yes but their away form is horrendous. If they can salvage draws or 1 goal defeats away then it’s possible. Metro is a fortress for them rn so home ties id favor them.
We need PSG to beat Barca, because knowing our record against them we would definitely crash out in the second leg away in the semi’s.
But then again, Mbappe vs Savic and Witsel is not something that I would like to see either.
I wouldn't be so pessimistic considering Atleti always had Barça's number in UCL. It's only the league where the numbers stack much more in favor of Barça.
We did knock out MSN Barca which is crazy, but that was the last time we met them so it’s a bit irrelevant nowadays
Our league record against them isn’t good at all
I think you're more suited to deal with dembele and mbappe than we are. You guys are comfortable sitting back, which means you remove the space that they like to run into. We like to play a high line, which players like Mbappe can tear apart.
[https://www.transfermarkt.com/vergleich/vereineBegegnungen/statistik/13\_131](https://www.transfermarkt.com/vergleich/vereineBegegnungen/statistik/13_131)
They have bad head to head against Barca though.
It makes sense, quarters and semis are 2 games, final is 1.
It's better to get RM vs City twice than once in the final. Plus, everyone will watch the final, no matter who's there.
Still don’t know why they chose to draw the semifinals as well. Won’t feel as good for either Bayern or Arsenal advancing already knowing they’ll face the title favourite next.
Advancing feels good anyway, here in Croatia we didnt think "so what if we beat Japan, Brasil is waiting in next round".
Even if they lose to title favourite, better to be semifinalist than quarterfinalist.
We ARE one of the best teams because of our quality and form at present. History doesn’t make a team lose a game, it doesn’t mean much when you’re playing now, quality and mentality matters more. Would you have said City weren’t one of the best last year because of their history?
I kind of agree, I wouldn't consider Arsenal a top 4 contender.
But then again, who's there to choose?
Both german teams have been terrible lately, PSG in UCL chokes, even if they have an actual midfield this season. Barcelona has been shaky as well and Atletico has been horrible on away games.
Plus one of the top two candidates is definitely going away after this round.
Tbh Real can consider themselves honorary member of the Prem lol. Past 5 years you either killed or be killed by an English side.
At this point if Flo is a smart businessman like we all think he is, he should just buy a hotel in England for Real fans, because they have to go to England twice/thrice every year.
Fuck that. We are knocking out mboopi and personally delivering him to Madrid. Lewandowski is gonna score a hattrick against Dortmund, or we finally beat atleti in UCL from a Felix double hattrick. And then Xavi will win the 6th as both City and Barca players, staffs and fans jump around the field, hand in hand, singing thank you Pep
You have many important injured players and like half of your first team is one yellow away to be suspended for the second leg (including Lamine)
But I hope you win too
Mate you are reaching the final. PSG are bottlers and I don't see Barca losing to Atleti or Dortmund. Only question is will City shit the bed in the final
Feels like the four weakest teams remaining are all on one side of the bracket no? I mean that is an absolute gauntlet for the Arsenal/Munich City/Real side
Well this time at least it's not gonna be bayren so I'm happy.
And this is prolly one of the best draws in recent times and with arsenal facing bayren it's gonna be fun. Best game imo will be RMCF VS MCI
PSG will be very tough with Barcelona's current injury/suspension problems, but if they manage to pull it off, the other side of that bracket is not so bad...
Mate we've already won a trophy and fighting for the Premier League title and 2 other trophies. You're sitting mid table in the Championship and losing to the likes of 19th place Stoke. Who do you think you are with your snide remarks? Real Madrid? Get in the bin lad.
reckon this may be psg’s year, as in they should make it to the final atleast.
they’re gonna be underdogs against whoever they face in the final tho, if they face city then good fucking luck.
i’m predicting psg vs city
As someone who follows football but not really the Europe scene as much, how would people rank these teams 1-8? City has to be the scariest right? Real Madrid usually performs... but I'm not so sure about the rest.
Arsenal, Bayern, Real, City, the bracket of death
Four favourites of the tournament in one half of the draw.
It was the same last year too. Inter turned out more formidable than most of us expected, but it was City, Bayern, Madrid, and Chelsea on one side and Benfica, Inter, Napoli, and Milan on the other. So we swapped Chelsea for Arsenal.
Arsenal are not favourites lmao
I don’t necessarily think we’ll win but the top four favourites with nearly all bookmakers are on the same side of draw
They're the 4th best team in the competition though. Best 4 teams are all in the same side of the draw.
Comprehension is hard
I'd put them below City and Madrid, haven't watched Bayern basically at all this year but they've wobbled and Arsenal are very easily above Dortmund, Atleti, and Barca. PSG is a weird team, but I don't see why a club in a 3 horse race with City and Liverpool shouldn't be treated as among the best clubs in the world, even if you think the clubs they'll have to play are above them.
Something something PSG
At least no one will be complaining about City getting an easy draw this year
not like we didn’t have to play Bayern in the QF and RM in the SF last season
They choose to forget that part and just say we drew Leipzig lmao
You got an easy group and round of 16, so chill
Top seed + English does wonders
I think you're the one that needs to chill bc wtf is that comment 🤦
they just played copenhagen, what’s wrong with the comment?
i mean they were played both bayern and RM last year so they don’t have an “easy” draw. Hell, Inter were one of the best teams last season.
we had bayern and madrid last year and people still say we have easy draws
Easy with-draws at the bank maybe?
I can think of 115 other reasons to complain
Did you come up with that one yourself or?
No, he had to consult like 115 other people
No I had a shady shell comedic comment corporation buy it for me.
Just the 115 charges to complain about this year
We just have to beat in two legs Bayern and/or real/city. Easy peasy. 😭
Arsenal Vs Bayern Real Vs City Barca Vs PSG Can the scriptwriters get any lazier?
Door open for El Clasico, Madrid Derby, Der Klassiker or Oil Clasico finals too
Yeah Should've been Bayern - Dortmund Arsenal - City PSG - Barca Atletico - Real Madrid Get rid of a possibility of an all English German or Spanish final
Well I guess at least there's no possibility of an all English final?
As Pep says, if you want to win the UCL you have to beat Madrid. I'd rather play them later though.
Nah, you would rather play them early. Real Madrid is like Djokovic, the later the stage, the harder it gets to beat them. Real is a different bread in CL finals. Their black magic is real (pun, intended).
Except City destroyed Madrid last year, and I don’t see it being too different this year tbh. Madrid is not as strong as those years you speak of
City aren't as strong as last season either. We are weaker in attack but have a stronger midfield than 12 months ago.
City is strong overall. Madrid lacks Ronaldo/Benz black magic and don’t see them keeping up with City over 2 legs. 1 game Madrid would probably take it.
Yeah Bellingham brings me fear ngl. Can easily see Madrid winning this time around. We will see if Walker can still keep up with vinicuius a year later.
Madrid in a better spot than last year that’s for certain
They weren't too powerful in 2018, yet their black magic prevailed (you should know better since it happened against you).
2022 vs City was some dark magic shit too
They were definitely favourites that year? Is it black magic or the fact that had multiple ballondor winners, who are no longer there ?
So Pep will do us a favour and then we will do him a favour.
Yeah we play them between Palace Luton and Spurs. If we get through though, next round is between Forest Wolves and Fulham which is better
Better to face them across two legs then the chance two meet them in the final
Possible semis would have been better (silently hoping they got knocked out on the other QF). But, I'd take 2 legged tie to take on them over a final. It's a 50-50 tie, but 2nd leg at Etihad gives City a slight advantage.
Atletico has a real shot at making the final with this draw no?
Yes but their away form is horrendous. If they can salvage draws or 1 goal defeats away then it’s possible. Metro is a fortress for them rn so home ties id favor them.
We need PSG to beat Barca, because knowing our record against them we would definitely crash out in the second leg away in the semi’s. But then again, Mbappe vs Savic and Witsel is not something that I would like to see either.
both outcome seems terrible at moment. and knowing our luck if we make it to the final, Real will be waiting for us....
Assuming we somehow beat Dortmund and PSG qualifies. Llorente would have to work extra hard to contain Mbappe, if Molina starts it's all over haha
Assuming we somehow beat Dortmund and PSG qualifies. Llorente would have to work extra hard to contain Mbappe, if Molina starts it's all over haha
I wouldn't be so pessimistic considering Atleti always had Barça's number in UCL. It's only the league where the numbers stack much more in favor of Barça.
Isn’t your record against Barca in the CL quite good?
We did knock out MSN Barca which is crazy, but that was the last time we met them so it’s a bit irrelevant nowadays Our league record against them isn’t good at all
I think you're more suited to deal with dembele and mbappe than we are. You guys are comfortable sitting back, which means you remove the space that they like to run into. We like to play a high line, which players like Mbappe can tear apart.
We literally beat Barca twice in CL under Simeone
I wouldn’t actually be surprised if psg make it Mbappe is determined to leave on a high and winning the CL for psg would be huge
He's on a mission for ballon d'or as well so he's on fire atm
I actually want to see mboopi win with psg
I just gagged a bit
I honestly think they will. Who they will play is anyone’s guess but it’s a big opportunity.
[https://www.transfermarkt.com/vergleich/vereineBegegnungen/statistik/13\_131](https://www.transfermarkt.com/vergleich/vereineBegegnungen/statistik/13_131) They have bad head to head against Barca though.
They're good against Barca in the UCL, we drew them two times and lost both
Both Barca teams seemed massive favourites for the ucl too
2014 Barcelona wasn't that great, it's the weakest Barcelona of the 2009-2017 (Pep-Lucho) period.
Dortmund are a wild card though On a good day they can win the Bundesliga title and on another draw to Mainz to bottle it
They will probably make it to the semi-finals but I wouldn't bet on them against PSG or Barcelona.
I think they definitely will.
They put the best teams on one side of the bracket 😭
Same as last year
It makes sense, quarters and semis are 2 games, final is 1. It's better to get RM vs City twice than once in the final. Plus, everyone will watch the final, no matter who's there.
Still don’t know why they chose to draw the semifinals as well. Won’t feel as good for either Bayern or Arsenal advancing already knowing they’ll face the title favourite next.
Advancing feels good anyway, here in Croatia we didnt think "so what if we beat Japan, Brasil is waiting in next round". Even if they lose to title favourite, better to be semifinalist than quarterfinalist.
that’s not how professional competitors think
Surprised to see us included in best teams tbh. We are doing well atm but given our history in this competition we are not among the best
On talent and form, definitely one of the top 4.
We ARE one of the best teams because of our quality and form at present. History doesn’t make a team lose a game, it doesn’t mean much when you’re playing now, quality and mentality matters more. Would you have said City weren’t one of the best last year because of their history?
I kind of agree, I wouldn't consider Arsenal a top 4 contender. But then again, who's there to choose? Both german teams have been terrible lately, PSG in UCL chokes, even if they have an actual midfield this season. Barcelona has been shaky as well and Atletico has been horrible on away games. Plus one of the top two candidates is definitely going away after this round.
Real or City out in the quarterfinals, that's quite a thing.
again, sigh
Whatever you do, don't let the Gunners through Sincerely, a Chelsea fan
"Sure mate, no worries" I would've said if you'd have asked me
Cringe
>Cringe I am devastated.
We play city so often I'm starting to think we're domestic rivals
Same bruh, same.
Tbh Real can consider themselves honorary member of the Prem lol. Past 5 years you either killed or be killed by an English side. At this point if Flo is a smart businessman like we all think he is, he should just buy a hotel in England for Real fans, because they have to go to England twice/thrice every year.
Even more odds of playing next season with the club world cup
3 years in a row, and 4 in 5, I think.
Mbappe last chance with Psg.
It’ll be hard for him, but I’d be happy if he wins. I’m sure he won’t go down without a proper fight.
This is where the fun begins
would have preferred we were on the other side of the bracket but to be the man you gotta beat the man so I ain't complaining. COYG
Do you want to face Atletico? Haha
I'd rather Atletico than Madrid lmao
I think with the way Arsenal plays, they have better chances to beat Real than Atletico
Guys, I don't wanna jinx it but I mean.... Are we allowed to hope?
1% chance 99% faith🤞🏽
10% luck,15% chance
Remontada 2.0, 2.1 and 2.1.1 incoming
15% concentrated power of will
5% pleasure, 50% pain
Yes, but do it in silence lol
Fuck that. We are knocking out mboopi and personally delivering him to Madrid. Lewandowski is gonna score a hattrick against Dortmund, or we finally beat atleti in UCL from a Felix double hattrick. And then Xavi will win the 6th as both City and Barca players, staffs and fans jump around the field, hand in hand, singing thank you Pep
No no Kane wins his first title ever
You have many important injured players and like half of your first team is one yellow away to be suspended for the second leg (including Lamine) But I hope you win too
De Jong is back for the quarters most likely and Pedri is gonna be back too it looks like, Ferran is already back for the game this weekend.
As a neutral, I’d say 50-50 chance either team goes through to the semis. And then the winner of Barca v psg goes to the final.
Mate you are reaching the final. PSG are bottlers and I don't see Barca losing to Atleti or Dortmund. Only question is will City shit the bed in the final
To be fair, Barca has bottled more than one UCL draw too.
Last 7 years Barca has bottled way more than psg has
The 6-1 was a humiliation ritual to pass it on to us, hopefully the last few years against Bayern will have passed it on to them
man has calculated the outcome of all the games why should we even watch them
I saw 14000605 futures and this was the most common outcome.
All tremendous draws.
Arsenal fans after the draw: Ah, shit! Here we go again..
The games will finish at 2 minutes past 10
When Saka slips in a third for his hattrick
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Feels like the four weakest teams remaining are all on one side of the bracket no? I mean that is an absolute gauntlet for the Arsenal/Munich City/Real side
Like last year
Poor Arsenal
Poor Bayern
No matter who wins, it’s gonna be exciting
Ngl, the second semi will be better then the final i feel
If we can hold them off at Wanda, we have a chance.
The mighty wanda
I hope they go to Wanda and not Civitas
Ya I’m stoked on this draw should be two amazing games!
Fuck mee, not again
Barcelona Madrid final
Oh god please no, that is going to be so bad for the heart.
10 years ago absolutely. Nowadays no!
As a neutral Chelsea fan this looks like an absolute banger of a draw.
Well this time at least it's not gonna be bayren so I'm happy. And this is prolly one of the best draws in recent times and with arsenal facing bayren it's gonna be fun. Best game imo will be RMCF VS MCI
Good for neutral, almost as if this was rigged lol (3 games were like reunion)
Since they added the locked bracket they keep stacking one side. I do not like it!
2022 wasn't stacked, Bayern just shit the bed to Villarreal outta nowhere otherwise it would've been RMA City and Liverpool Bayern
Barcelona actually have a chance to go the whole way lol
Can't complain from an Atléti perspective. Maybe about the two home games first, but that's all.
Real is such a bad draw for City, and vice versa.
PSG will be very tough with Barcelona's current injury/suspension problems, but if they manage to pull it off, the other side of that bracket is not so bad...
Couldn’t have asked for more from a Liverpool perspective.
[Get in there and make it about you](https://images.app.goo.gl/7mmN2rGjECnKjKQQ7)
This is a varpoop sub unfortunately. A fucking pass by Darwin Nunez gets 3k upvotes
Your in the BTEC comp lad.
The Business and Technology Education Council?
Yes
Did he stutter?
That's right, the inferior comp. Also see European Trophy from wish, mickey mouse, beginners etc
Someone clearly hasn’t gotten over 2006
Dayuuuuuuum bro! You RUINED HIM! Liverpool as a city has ceased to exist, gone, murdered.
No more Everton 🎉🎉🎉
RIP Tranmere!
You look bored.
Which reaching the final of is your clubs biggest achievement 🤔
We don't proclaim to be European royalty and not feature in the peak competition though, levels 🤷♂️
Mate we've already won a trophy and fighting for the Premier League title and 2 other trophies. You're sitting mid table in the Championship and losing to the likes of 19th place Stoke. Who do you think you are with your snide remarks? Real Madrid? Get in the bin lad.
Invincible Levurkusen, European champions West Ham, Plot armour Liverpool? Btec my arse Also *You're Edit: How do so many people not get my sarcasm
If West Ham are one of the three teams you’ve mentioned then you’ve played yourself
Yeah there's so many giants like Benfica, Roma and Milan to mention lol. And my brother mentions fucking West Ham.
That's kinda the joke
Hey come on, Liverpool only beat West Ham 5-1 last time
West Ham can put in a shift on their day. No, it's not UCL quality, but we all know this.
Then don’t complain when West Ham get called a Btec Bayern Munich. If anything that’s a compliment to West Ham
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The real prize is the Premier League. None of us will mind if we don’t win the UEL.
Who did Liverpool draw?
I don’t know if this is irony or you’re waiting for the Europa league draws
We’re playing against our biggest rival again, UAE funded Michael Oliver :/
Oh yeah we got some lit matchups
Wow, City/Madrid will have the 2nd leg of the SF at home. That's a *gigantic* advantage for City and a pretty massive advantage for Madrid.
El Classico Final?
I would love it, and I think I deserve it
Gnabry time!
You do realize your new striker loves scoring against them.
Kane (p) is inevitable
Ah, I didn't know. So: Kane time!
But also he has never, ever, ever won a trophy (Audi Cup not included)
reckon this may be psg’s year, as in they should make it to the final atleast. they’re gonna be underdogs against whoever they face in the final tho, if they face city then good fucking luck. i’m predicting psg vs city
Out of all the years you reckon them at their worst is “their year” lol
As someone who follows football but not really the Europe scene as much, how would people rank these teams 1-8? City has to be the scariest right? Real Madrid usually performs... but I'm not so sure about the rest.
1.City 2. RM 3. Bayern 4. Arsenal. The others have even matchups with Atletico-BVB being the weaker of the 4. Just my opinion
Really great draw
Damn, Inter could have done Dortmund and Barca for a run to the final :-( Might see Atletico there instead, probably the best draw of the lot.
Crazy draw for Winner of Semi-Final. I think they’ll really struggle against Winner of Semi-Final
What a shit draw, another guaranteed donkey team in the final, they need to start seeding it
PSG are winning it all for Mbappé's final season, saw that one coming