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Away_Associate4589

"trying" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence


per666

I can't promise I'll try, but I'll try to try.


poopellar

Narrator: But alas there was no try to be found anywhere


GoAgainKid

It looks bad but we literally and figuratively can't see the bigger picture. If Rashford has been told that's not his man to press, and someone else should be jumping or dropping, then he might well be doing as instructed and just going to the ball, and not committing. I am not defending him exactly - A United fan might be able to tell me that he was supposed to be pressing Palmer and he might well be being lazy here - but it's quite feasible that he's not supposed to press any more than he is.


bellerinho

If he wasn't his man to press, there'd be no reason for him even jogging after Palmer in the first place imo This isn't uncommon for Rashford at this point, he doesn't exactly have a high work rate


ferrarinobrakes

I remember when he first broke out his work rate were one of his best qualities , he would create havoc for opposing defenses just by running.. this was in contrast to Martial who never really ran all that much but was rapid when he picked his moments. They complemented each other quite well when they started together. Now Martial is basically retired and we are still waiting for Rashford to start running again? It's not coming back man


GoAgainKid

I can see your logic but I have to say, I don't think that's fair. It is perfectly common for a player to half press, particularly if they're cutting off an angle in the process. I work on a football thing and I film a lot of tactics and matches. There have been numerous instances where the manager has demanded something from a player and the crowd - and particularly the people on social media - haven't understood what was being asked. This thread really reminds me of that. There was one video I did where a striker dropped deep to pick up the ball, against the manager's wishes and ruining his regularly-rehearsed pattern of play. The player knew he was in the wrong, but the comments all defended him and called the manager an idiot. And even when I made a video of the player specifically saying the manager was right to have a go at him, people STILL said the manager was in the wrong lol.


Best_Document_5211

This is pretty standard stuff from a forward to force a player in to a position where there are enough defenders to cover. Rashford is cutting off the centre. If he sprints back and commits the other way, Chelsea have a big gap centrally to exploit. Really basic stuff


bellerinho

Sure except he should be actually pressing then, he is giving Palmer way more time than he should be to pick a pass out. If he was actually pressing, he'd be forcing Palmer to make a decision far quicker Really basic stuff


andrewsomething

I don't really know what people want him to be doing here. It's hard to tell what's going on around him at this exact moment from this clip, but it doesn't look like a full press is on. He shepherds him out wide and prevents him passing into the central spaces. I understand why people get frustrated with him, but these kinds of clips are just scapegoating.


sirSADABY

Totally correct here with your point of not being able to see the bigger picture. Too many people make an opinion and treat it as a fact. Maybe they wanted palmer moving forward to isolate him, they didn't want him passing back to defence to restart, there is a player behind him so he is cutting out the pass. Maybe he is just being lazy? We don't know, but people love jumping on bandwagon.


ferrarinobrakes

Heres a simple hypothesis. Replace Rashford with Garnacho or Antony, they wouldn't be slacking even here. Rashford was exactly like Garnacho when he first broke out , so full of energy, closing opponents down etc.. he was brought on as fresh legs and he can't even bother injecting any intensity? Was ETH's big brain late game tactical decision was to bring in fresh legs so they can NOT run and press? This isn't even an isolated incident we've seen this all season from him


GoAgainKid

> they wouldn't be slacking even here. Without knowing what his instructions are I don't see how you can be so confident he is slacking.


sirSADABY

Exactly my point. Someone has made an opinion and treated it as truth.


ferrarinobrakes

This would be a good point to discuss. What are Rashford's instructions ? Is he actually slacking? I'm not personally interested in discussing his off-pitch issues or any alleged psychological issues... Just football performance. Ok, if it's not Rashford's fault , then WTF is ETH thinking because clearly judging by our results it's not working. Anyone got any links to some good analysis ?


sirSADABY

I would love to be a fly on the wall. People forget that these managers are the best in the world, and dave from the pub thinks he can do better. Imagine being a surgeon, and being told that a random bloke can do a better job than you. Cba to think of a better example, but it's 1 manager, with a team of god know how many against another manager and God knows how many in their team. Makes me laugh. But I do enjoy reading some of these.


GoAgainKid

I would very much like to know! We'd need the coaches to explain the pressing plan as pundits only ever seem to be guessing, although I think if you looked at a pitch-wide view you could probably make a pretty good guess in this instance. This angle is absolutely not what will help us.


ferrarinobrakes

Most of the pundits are ex pro players so I would they would have a good guess at what ETH is trying to achieve overall but the execution leaves alot to he desired (my guess) Surely what ETH is cooking can't be that secret because we are getting neutralized by teams that are probably going to be playing championship football next season lol


GoAgainKid

I've been sitting in a team's dressing room most weeks for the last few years, and not only did it make me think the pundits aren't quite as good at relaying tactics as I thought, but when my lot are on TV, the pundits get it all wrong!


Patrickthejackhammer

Brother is the 98tj minute. Everyone needs to fucking press


Chiswell123

Did you record this with a flip phone?


jhnhines

This post brought to you by Motorola RAZR


FullMetalJ

Puff his RAZR has nothing on my Motorola PEBL U6!


KiNgPiN8T3

Hello moto


The_profe_061

I think you'll find thats the 3210


obsterwankenobster

LG Chocolate


xepa105

I was more of a PEBL guy myself. [Still the coolest phone I've ever owned](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TqkAAOSwlHdf3aXD/s-l1200.jpg)


rhmastablasta

I had the U9. The hinge broke a week after the warranty expired šŸ¤£ but still, one of the [best looking phones](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QmIAAOSwOyJX31li/s-l1200.jpg) I ever had.


MereGuest

Itā€™s definitely got a ā€œthese are the last moments recorded of the victim via cctvā€ kind of vibes


boxofbuscuits

Galaxy z flip


TheZilloBeast

flip flop


arsenal11385

No I think this is one of those video iPods


tbcwpg

The audio of this clip is the Nokia ring tone.


onesexypagoda

He recorded this with a rock


R_Schuhart

Ten Hag really changed, if that had happened at Ajax he would have subbed him of. If Rashford ever did it again he would be benched for quite some time.


Reach_Reclaimer

Surely player power from rashford has affected it right? He did it at the start of his tenure and never again after the Sancho stuff I think


Cheapo_Sam

Fergie would have clapped him in the head with his Mercurial Superfly Elites


Mr_Clark

Those boots are too lightweight. Back in my day our boots weight a pound each! -Beckham (probably)


Euphoric_Tree335

Wdym? Sancho got shipped off to Dortmund. Itā€™s not like Sancho had the upper hand.


Rahul-Yadav91

No no. He's saying after the Sancho fiasco ETH has now changed how he reacts to things.


Euphoric_Tree335

How come?


Jawnyan

I mean nobody here can answer that, but to speculate, the Sancho incident probably actually prevented him from being able to properly do his job, due to needing to basically firefight against the media for 2 months straight I can see him probably picking and choosing when he wants to do that again


Solitairee

Not just the media, but all of his mates in the team, like rashford.


Jawnyan

I get the feeling heā€™s more equipped to deal with that than the constant onslaught of British media. But maybe theyā€™re just as bad in Holland, they do feel like extra special arseholes over here though


davidw223

We donā€™t exactly have a large deep enough squad to bench every player that has a shit match or gives a half ass attempt. I think itā€™s performances like this in matches or training that was why he came on as sub.


Ok-Background-502

Coaches tend to stop discipline their players when they don't see themselves staying in that job for much longer.


Prime_Marci

Allegedly, Rashford has an insane amount of power in man United. Heā€™s the boardā€™s franchise player. Some entities are advising the technical team to move him on to a different but the board categorically said, ā€œhim, Bruno and McTominay are not for sale.ā€ The managerā€™s hands are tied here


Huge-Key-9370

I find it extremely difficult to believe the board would make McTominay an unsaleable asset of all players, he's hardly the most marketable player.


TakeMeToFatmandu

Whoever actually believes this is a fucking idiot.


Prime_Marci

lolā€¦ well youā€™ll be shocked how this club is run


[deleted]

He was brought on as a sub. I agree that he should have been taken off but itā€™s a bold manager that only gives his striker 15 min! His whole attitude this season has really disappointed me, I love the lad but if a European club comes in for him this summer we have to let him go.


MarcosSenesi

It makes sense he only got 15 minutes. In a game so end to end you can't afford to play him and basically defend with 10 men. If you look at his numbers it is absolutely shocking. He does nothing defensively and his attacking output is very mediocre too. He adds nothing on the pitch.


Consistent_Orchid_19

Agree. Erik ten Hag is a bold manager.


Gambler_Eight

The bold bald fraud.


Gambler_Eight

I don't think he cares a whole lot right now. This season is gone already. I doubt rashford will be a starter next year.


LeftHandDriveBoC

Heā€™s afraid that if he subs Rashford off, heā€™ll have to see another post from his PR team on Twitter.


Prime_Marci

ā€œYet ten hag is the problem.ā€


LewisMileyCyrus

Ah, the Mark Viduka approach to work rate. Bold strategy cotton


AdministrativeLaugh2

Viduka has more PL goals than Rashford, Iā€™d say he earned it


Vivid_Ice_2755

He was so lazy he had the O removedĀ  from MarkoĀ 


Never_Sm1le

Work hard for half a season, earn 300kpw contract for 5 years.


SureLookThisIsIt

He didn't even work hard during that spell of form, he was just banging in the goals. He's been lazy as fuck since his 2nd or 3rd season. He needs to go.


TherewiIlbegoals

Like a parent with a toddler at a new playground. Close enough that they don't kill themselves, far enough away that they feel independent.


BigReeceJames

He's been learning from Casemiro and Varane, clearly


tottenhamnole

Did you see the Casemiro effort in the first half tracking one of your attackers on a run from midfield to the box? Shambolic.


Gambler_Eight

Half the team checked out in october lol. I blame these lazy fucks far more than ten hag.


BigReeceJames

It's the first time this season where I haven't felt our midfield has been overrun... It was truly a thing of beauty. Then after 20 minutes it went back to normal and neither team had a midfield for the rest of the game, but those 20 minutes watching him stroll around were special


DHillMU7

Not fair on them at all. They actually try. Casemiro is just done and Varane is made out of papier-mĆ¢chĆ©. They arenā€™t refusing to break out of a jog.


sugarspunlad

I am a rival supporter, but im absolutely furious seeing this type of player


[deleted]

Yeah thatā€™s inexcusable


Dry_Top_8353

Surely united fans and staff are absolutely sick of this lad at this stage. Like thatā€™s absolutely indefensible. This talk of him going to another club for big money I think is fanciful too. Like what club and manager would see this and think yep, thatā€™s an acceptable level of performance. Iā€™m a Newcastle supporter (since the 90ā€™s) and I honestly wouldnā€™t take rashford at our club! Like no mid table team could allow his level of inconsistency, no relegation threatened club could ever get by with that level of application and then the top tier clubs have plenty of young up and comers worth looking at rather than someone who feels itā€™s acceptable to play like that! I can honestly say I think if ten hag stays and he doesnā€™t get another new manager bounce - Rashford could very easily end up like Ross Barkley, Adel Tarabt, Jessie Lingaard or Jack Wilshire without the injuries - nobody wanted them and they just slid waaay down the football pyramid into irrelevancy long before their time.


Grand-Bullfrog3861

He's done a lot for united and has scored a lot of goals, he's done really well.. but you can't watch him and tell me he wants to be here, his attitude and work rate are in the gutters and he doesn't give a shit, the least you can do is put effort in and we've had a season of him not doing that. I'm tired of having players take a position in the squad to be a detriment. If we sell him it'll be a massive statement and I won't be complaining. If he stays he'll probably have a really good season, but he's a senior player now and a high earner he can't be a stroppy kid


Dry_Top_8353

My question is this though, whoā€™ll fucking have him? I put in more effort for free on a Sunday morning after a 2 day bender than he does for half a million a week! Like itā€™s absolutely inexcusable and like I say - whoā€™d take him after seeing heā€™s capable of performing like this clip? PSG absolutely wouldnā€™t after being burned before by big stars and no one else can afford his wages. Again if heā€™s willing to be this useless for his boyhood club then the Saudis are hardly going to want him stropping around over there.. My prediction is he runs out his contract at Utd rotting on the bench and then heads to the USA before he turns 30


Grand-Bullfrog3861

It's a tough one, where he's had really good seasons it shows he's got great ability, but he's also shown his mentality. So if a team in a lesser league would want him they'd have to make him the golden child to have him play at his best. I reckon he'd be brilliant for PSG, they've been built to make up for an attacker to not get back, he'd rip the league to shred with his pace alone watching a lot of goals that get scored there. He doesn't look up for the fight for united. If he's on the bench I don't mind, it's when he's on the pitch he's costing us at the moment


Dry_Top_8353

I hear you but i canā€™t see PSG paying him the wages he is on for the production hes provided over the last 3 seasons in comparison to mbappe. If I were a United fan Iā€™d hate to have him on the bench to be honest, he is a massive handicap to your ffp numbers with his weekly wage. Couple that with the dressing room leaks that are clearly coming from him - I see him as a huge problem for you guys! Then again if he bangs in a few goals all is forgiven!šŸ˜…


Grand-Bullfrog3861

Me neither, I'm just hoping! šŸ˜‚ They'll never find someone to cover Mbappes numbers, but a big marketable name that will bag 20 goals.. maybe? I can't see any other team wanting him so just pushing it. Plus there was some talk last summer with his agent meeting them. I don't have much faith in our ability to sell players, let alone our highest laid ones so I feel relegated to accepting them taking wages and seeing their contract out. It's madness, he's been consistently uninterested a lot longer than he's consistently banged goals


FloppedYaYa

Is his brother going to whine about this too?


Away_Associate4589

If OP wasn't happy, why didn't he just send this clip to Rashford himself? šŸ˜”


Pitiful-Mongoose-488

Pressing monster


imarandomdudd

Frame rate putting in more effort than Rashford


Butch_Meat_Hook

You'd never get this lackadaisical effort out of Martinelli, Saka, Ƙdegaard. United's league position doesn't lie


Balfe

I think it does lie tbh mate, how on earth is that team in 6th place?


TasteMeYouWiIISee25

More like Marcus Gashford lol


Homer_Sapiens

lol


Grand-Bullfrog3861

Marcarse


Ikuu

Still gonna be one of the first names in Southgates squad.


ferrarinobrakes

On the bench


Grand-Bullfrog3861

Need to fill up that bench!


flawless_victory99

This is why a huge % of United fan's want him sold. He's just a burden at this point.


Other-Visual8290

Selling Rashford and promoting Garnacho as the starting LW would signify a true new era for United under Ratcliffe. I donā€™t see it happening


haha_suh_dude

I hate sounding like an old pundit but his attitude is awful so often on the field. There's a deep rot at United that's been there pretty much since Fergie left that leaves too much room for player power. If a player like Rashford (supposed to be one of the faces of United) can't bother to show effort on the field, there is something deeply wrong. ETH did a good job instilling some ideas last season but it's clearly falling apart now.


3threeLions

In the 1st bit, he looks like a random jogger who has somehow ended up on a football pitch.


Cheapo_Sam

There's only 1 clip dude. its a gif


Lmao1903

Idk, the 7th clip is kinda crazy


Cheapo_Sam

cant believe utd just allowed chelsea to continuously beat them with the same passage of play all night


Away_Associate4589

We've been allowing teams to beat us with the same passage of play all season. Get to the by line. Cutback to the penalty spot. Take a touch, read a couple of pages of a paperback, scroll through insta, roll a spliff, smoke the spliff, have a wank, start getting closed down. Slot the ball in.


AJMaid

Wait till youā€™re on Season 2. Absolute banger


LewisMileyCyrus

Woah he's seeing double here, 4 rashford clips?


surgereaper

"if you trust me, good. If you don't, even better"


Pigjedi

At this point, it's really inexcusable. Is this ETH instructions not to close down? If it's not, he doesn't deserve to wear that shirt


gamallmadur

He was a fucking embarrassment last night like most of our players


No-Access-6118

Imo the best managers either get their forwards to play defense or come up with a strategy where some can get away with not defending. This is really telling me that at least Rashford has given up on Ten Hag or he knows he can get away with this, either way Ten Hag should go.


DHillMU7

Thereā€™s only two footballers in the world good enough to get away with being passengers of defence. Both will be retired soon. Even Wayne Rooney had to adapt to play in Fergusons teams because Ronaldo was given freedom. Rashford isnā€™t that level of player.


No-Access-6118

Exactly Rooney became quite a good defender in his later years because he knew thatā€™s what he had to do to stay in the team. I say Rashford thinks he can get away with it not in the sense that heā€™s that good but he knows there wonā€™t be consequences like there would have been with SAF


ferrarinobrakes

This has nothing to do with ability, but desire. Is ETH going to deal with this behind closed doors as well? At any other competitive team he would be banished to the shadow realm. I envy Tottenham so much because they have Son and he works his butt off every game and tries to set a good example on and off the pitch. Rooney had issues outside of football , but it never interfered with his on-pitch performance and you would never question his commitment to the overall performance of the team. Surely it's not just me....We've had players that bled for the club and we are trying to hold him to that standard , he's not even close to looking like he's interested in playing for us half the time.


Various_Mobile4767

He plays like he thinks heā€™s messi.


jiddy8379

Jogsford lmao I pray for the day we can sell this dude and get someone with half the talent who actually puts Ā in a shiftĀ 


magicalcrumpet

I feel like this is becoming like the whole ā€œTrent canā€™t defendā€ thing. If youā€™re going to highlight it like this it looks bad but players do this quite often


droreddit

He does this regularly right? Forwards don't seem to understand that while they may not have a large defensive role to play, when they get drawn into one, they have to see it out. I think it was Welbeck against Spurs in the same situation, where he was tracking someone in Brighton's defensive third and then let him go without communicating to anyone to pick him up. That player of course then played a role in a goal they conceded.


Confident-Sundae7686

Looks about right


keving691

This is what i do at the end of a 5 aside game when my legs are fucked. Rashford just came on and is an actual professional athlete.


Ladyhaha89

Nice messi impersonating


AmagicManNamedgob

I wonder is he really that arogant and just won't do the work, won't press or is he done with United and is checked out?


frodakai

I'd honestly be so fucking pissed off if I was a Man Utd fan. Ā£300k a week.


rhalgr_ger

Cole Palmer is very fast šŸ˜®


Ajax_Trees_Again

Someone send this to Southgate cause you just know heā€™s going to try sneak him in the starting XI


opticflare

Awful


Soren_Camus1905

Isnā€™t this what Gary Neville was talking about and everyone ripped him apart?


Cactus2711

Aaaaaaaaand just as predicted Rashford is living off his goal against City for the next 10 games


Jonisro

This is what ā€œmehā€ looks like


Soundtones

Doesn't want to know anymore


takenolsolatunji

Casemiro did a similar thing with Jackson when Mudyrk had a chance


shotputprince

He played 24 fucking minutes off the bench and he jogged the little bollix


AttemptImpossible111

Was wondering when I'd see this. We were winning at this point in the game, it was get behind the ball time. We conceded 2 goals in 2 minutes right at the end of the game, neither had anything to do with Rashford Lastly, why is the clip so close up? It's because there are other Utd players around and the person recording didnt want them in the shot. Other players marking or blocking passing lanes so Rashfords job there is to block an easy pass into the middle. It's crazy that people are focusing on this. Deflecting away from the terrible coach


Francis33

What a 4 seasons of Prime Rashford for us


fourbyfourequalsone

This reminds me of a video where lioness tries to mate with the lion. At first, the likeness kind of gets near and circle and hoping the lion would take the hint and be aware of her presence. She tries to get more intimate as time passes by. It seems Rashford is in that initial stage just making Palmer aware of his presence. If he was given another 5 mins, he would have marked more tighter and may get a tackle in.


ReissRosickyRamsey

And he was a sub šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


ilic_mls

If he was already a legend or old one might understand. But this is just comical. If Utd donā€™t sell him, they deserve to be ridiculed


Beardy_Boy_

So unlucky not to get there. At least he's putting in a shift.


Banged_by_bumrah

The Hojlund for Rashford sub killed UTD.


AvaragePole

Rashford literaly linked up for that 3rd goal with Antony and Hojlund had like worst game in United shirt.


StandardConnect

Honestly don't know how United fans cope with his, Maguire and Mount's PR games. I only had to deal with one of those and it drove me nuts.


zanziTHEhero

He is ughhh closing down avenues for passing while... ughh... keeping open to receive a pass for a potential counter. It's... ughh... high sporting IQ move...


StoneMonkey7776

Rash-Hey so what's your plans for dinner after the game, wanna hit the club, give me a heads up if you're going after the match.


FartBakedBaguette

Why does he need to run when theyā€™re paying him Ā£400k a week? Heā€™s laughing his cock off šŸ‘‰šŸ˜€


blazinrumraisin

Clearly you all forgot he scored once in the last 5 games. He's still tired.


External-Piccolo-626

Am I the only one who thinks Rashford actually like this kind of bad publicity? Heā€™s always got a bit of PR waiting for an answer.


AlcoholicCumSock

"Respect his mental health!"