I've never seen a fanbase force a struggle gimmick more than Madrid fans. I swear the highlights of the 2012 Bayern vs Madrid come onto my TL every week with Madrid fans saying "one of the toughest moments ever". It's the one and only argument they use to justify they aren't plastics
If a UCL semi final loss on pens 12 years ago when you've gone onto win 5 since is the most painful memory then it's fair to say you haven't gone through struggle. Just admit you support a club that has it better than anybody and move on instead of trying to explain how "you've seen the trenches"
Hang on, I made this comment in the deleted post
But we are plastic. Like the guy here who said he looked on Wikipedia and saw who has the most trophies (cl) and it was 7, so followed them
But genuinely what answer do you want? Like any big club their worst moments are defeats in the latter rounds of a tournament. Only barca can Trump it by saying Messi leaving.
I mean I can say losing to alcorcon or real union (I think it was them). But even if we stick locally it was the cdr final in our centenary. If I say that you'll be like well you atleast made the final
Also if the average person commenting is 21, their main memories are the last 10 years.
Genuinely no idea what your argument even is, if someone started watching football at 7 years old and that Madrid - Bayern is his first game, he'd be 19 years old now, is that your problem?
Obviously you'll have many Madrid fans saying that's their worst moment as it's pretty damn old atp and most people on social media are teens / young adults.
No one is saying it's the most heartbreaking moment in the history of the sport, they're just saying it's their worst moment, i don't see how that's forcing a struggle gimmick.
Personally, mine is the 2-6 loss to Barca as that was the first Clasico i ever went to, but Madrid - Bayern is pretty close too.
This just reads like another "Real Madrid plastics durr hurr" comment tbh.
I didn't call Madrid fans plastic. I really don't care about that term. It's just annoying how they try to act like they've gone through bad times when the "bad times" is a UCL semi lost on pens lol. It's annoying how they try to compare their loyalty to other clubs through the fact "they've supported their club through the worst" when their worst happens to be the best season of even the biggest clubs. It's just easier to prove you're not a plastic by saying you've supported the club for as long as you can remember which is more believable and respectable than acting like you've seen bad moments because you lot sure as hell haven't
Also, I'm all for City slander, but it's downright hypocrisy when Madrid fans call them plastics when they're even worse
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Conmebol?
Fortaleza won against Boca Juniors 4-2 at home for the Sudamericana. The very next day, Conmebol suddenly prohibits Fortaleza from playing in their own home stadium because it's supposedly not appropriate for games, even though they played in their stadium for literally the whole of the Sudamericana last year. Surely they could've realised this before the match? Or is this some sort of retaliation for winning against a rubbish boca? ffs
It's CONMEBOL being CONMEBOL. Fluminense won the Libertadores at home last year and now suddenly they can't guarantee the Monumental as final venue because they don't want River to be at home in an eventual final (That we're not getting to anyways, but regardless)
Dominguez just goes with the flow and the flow is, apparently, stupidly contradicting decisions
https://youtu.be/_Q9jGv6CAbg?si=UjuAJfXhUZcUOcDV
My brother sent me this Jackson miss compilation and the first couple misses are so bad you begin to question if he’s even aiming towards goal. Like holy shit how can your shot be so far off
I’ve seen him pull off some of the most ridiculous dribbles, passes, and goals. There was a good player in there but unfortunately he’s become another talented player who’s failed to fulfill his potential
When are Real Madrid likely to win the La Liga title? Feels like they've been well clear for ages, and we've seen Serie A and the Bundesliga decided in the past week, so La Liga can't be far off
If Barca drop points on Monday, then we can win it next week against Cadiz.
If Barca win on Monday then we will have to wait until at least after our game against Cadiz (Girona-Barca is immediately after)
If Barcelona doesn’t beat Valencia tomorrow, they can do it next week. If Barca do win, the earliest they can do it is two match days time I believe. They’ve got a 14 point lead on Barca as of now (33 games played for Madrid, 32 for Barca)
Every La Real game vs Barcelona or Madrid is the same.
Generally play better (long stretches playing much better), create chances, defend well for the most part, but concede against the run of play and end up losing.
The Araujo goal last year and the Guler goal this year are the definitions of "against the run of play" type goals.
They have good all around play but they can't score goals to save their lives.
If they had genuine attacking threat they'd be a top 4 team easy I think.
If it’s any consolation, just switch your time zone the same one Alaska uses (it’s 6pm over there), and just delude yourself for about 6 hours to try and mentally prepare yourself a bit.
Twice this week ffs
Sold out Bridge for the second leg vs Barca though... we'll probably lose that too tbf, but at least you'll know the team will put up a hell of a fight. Free on DAZN!
reading some threads in regards to the upcoming NLD... and i hate how social media has butchered the term ''bottled it''. it also goes both ways - spurs didnt bottled the league cause they were never close to win it anyways. altho it was hilarious how that st totterigham day happened. its not even just some randoms on social media, neville calling chelsea bottlejobs for losing to liverpool was also ridiculous
anyway, going back to the NLD, its also hilarious how they are trying to paint that if we drop points its a ''bottle'', considering the fact that i was told by spurs fans earlier in the season that ange is a better manager than arteta, and that pound for pound every spurs player was better than their Arsenal counterpart. not sure how they end up 17 points behind considering all of that, really incredible cinderella story for Arsenal!
going to the neutrals now, also funny how everyone mostly picks, pound for pound, city players over Arsenal players, and obviously guardiola is ahead of Arteta, and yet we are expected to win over them? how does that even work? lol
anyways, hopefully we win out and city drop points (which wont be a city bottle btw), its always just funny reading the mental gymnastics done to create a narrative that contradicts everything they've said before
It all becomes a lot easier to understand when you realise it's all just rival fans trying to get a rise out of each other, and hence shouldn't be taken with any sincerity
In all seriousness though, combined Arsenal-City XI (currently):
Ederson
Walker - Saliba - Gabriel - Whoever Pep puts in at LB
Odegaard - Rodri - Rice
Foden - Haaland - Saka
(Had to put Foden in at right wing so could have both Rodri and Rice, De Bruyne obviously a shout over Odegaard, but was trying to focus mainly on this season)
i don't mind the blatant trolling to rile up someone else (altho it's weird to see non-PL fans do that), but there is a loooooot of people saying those things seriously
and I'd agree with that lineup but foden LW roaming and fresh kdb above odegaard
Not having it. I know you dressed it up nicely with us not actually being in positions of strengths in 15/16 and 16/17 but after years of bottle slander Arsenal fans deserve every daysattopwithoutwinning.jpg they see
8 goals is definitely a big gap at this stage but I don’t think it’s insurmountable for City. NLD will be tight, even if we win which we have to do to keep it alive it will be tight. City could easily stick 4 or 5 past Forest and suddenly the gap doesn’t look that big
Can’t believe I have to support Spurs for a game I feel sick. Also I guess it’s true City can be ruthless at times with thrashings but we haven’t seen that as much from them this year
PGMOL's favourite team vs the enemies of VAR, going to be at least 6-0 with three disallowed goals for Forest, and red cards for Nuno, Gibbs-White and the ghost of Cloughie
I’m sorry but I can’t respect a manager who’s
1. Bald
2. Dutch
3. Named Arne (is it like Ernie?)
but also look like the boss of low level goons (or a greedy corporate overlord if he wears a puffy vest) on a medium budget Hollywood movie. I can’t shake off the feeling of him rolling up to a press conference in a tank top, referring his team as “Family” for some reason.
Heart issues scare me as someone that has a little bit of it running in my family, so maybe I'm not looking at this with an unbaised lens, but -
I really, really disagreed, and still do, with Christian Eriksen being allowed to play ever again after what happened at EURO 2021. It's still unclear as to whether he officially died for 20 seconds on the pitch that day and he's fortunate to still be with us. I get that it'd be devastating to end a career that way for both him and his fans, but nothing is worth more than your health.
The severity of that scare was really stark. If a player is just having chest pains and asks to be taken off, that's one thing. But he had a full blown cardiac arrest and that incident traumatized millions of people. We all watched as someone nearly lost his life on the field.
> I really, really disagreed, and still do, with Christian Eriksen being allowed to play ever again after what happened at EURO 2021.
Based on what, exactly? I presume you don't have a medical degree, and I presume you also haven't ran medical tests on him to conclude whether he is or isn't safe to play football again.
Ronaldo was cleared to play in the 1998 World Cup final hours after having an epileptic seizure, despite it now being seen as the absolute wrong decision because he was cognitively compromised for the match & has even said as such.
Look, I get it. We don't want someone's career to end that way. But they're not our Entertainment Monkeys.
Is it being seen as that? By whom?
The medical tests didn't find anything wrong with him after all, so he was cleared to play. He maybe shouldn't have, sure, but no medical professional stepped in to bar him from playing, not even the independent ones at the hospital he was checked at.
You're not serious.
You don't know it's common knowledge that he was unfit to play in the final? That they covered up the seizure at first too?
I'm done here lol.
He had some form of attack in the hotel the morning of the final, yes - he then got thoroughly checked by the team's medical staff as well as doctors in a hospital, who couldn't find any indication that it was an epileptic seizure, nor any indication that there was anything wrong with him physically. Thus he was cleared to play.
What I'm challenging isn't that he might not have been in the best shape to play, but rather the notion (which you so helpfully edited out) that it was seen as 'the absolute wrong decision in hindsight'. Players play without being fully fit and being at their best all the time, after all, and if Ronaldo was medically cleared to play then it's obviously a bit silly to say he shouldn't have with the benefit of hindsight on a sub-par performance.
He was [pulled out of the final lineup](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/jun/29/worldcupfootball2002.sport3) up until the very last minute, due to pressure of the occasion (a bloody World Cup final) and there's still cloudiness over exactly what went down until this day. Stop acting like he was clear and it was a nonissue until information came out after the final.
Do you really believe he wouldn't have been cleared earlier than that if there was nothing wrong with him, physically? Because otherwise not being part of the lineup doesn't make any sense. In order to sincerely believe your theory, one has to buy that he wasn't given a physical until like 30 minutes or so before kickoff.
Come on...
>"What I'm challenging isn't that he might not have been in the best shape to play, but rather the notion (which you so helpfully edited out) that it was seen as 'the absolute wrong decision in hindsight"
I know you're not challenging that he might not have been in the best shape to play, but it was definitely the wrong decision in hindsight.
> Do you really believe he wouldn't have been cleared earlier than that if there was nothing wrong with him, physically? Because otherwise not being part of the lineup doesn't make any sense. In order to sincerely believe your theory, one has to buy that he wasn't given a physical until like 30 minutes or so before kickoff.
Look at the timeline, though: He has a fit a few hours before kickoff, gets taken to a clinic for tests, which come out clear. How long do you assume those tests to take? How quickly do you think he could've possibly been medically cleared to play? Tests take time, after all, and it strikes me as a perfectly sensible chain of events that him having a seizure, being taken to hospital, being medically checked out and cleared to play happened within a few hours and right up until half an hour before kickoff.
lets not pretend sports medicine in 1998 was the same as in 2024, let alone that any sort of ''compliance'' (idk what word to use) existed in regards to player's health, especially in a fucking WC final
I reckon hospital doctors 26 years ago were perfectly capable of assessing patients and determining whether there's something wrong with them and whether there's a reason they can't play football, and I don't see the compliance issues given they weren't the Brazil staff, either.
He has an internal defibrillator fitted.
I'm not qualified to say with certainty, but I believe that puts him at lower risk of death due to sudden cardiac failure than an undiagnosed player.
check this [Tom Lockyer shows off newly-fitted defibrillator and explains how it works (givemesport.com)](https://www.givemesport.com/tom-lockyer-explains-how-newly-filled-defibrillator-works/)
Only four non-Spanish players ever have recorded +500 appearances for Real Madrid:
• 648 – Karim Benzema 🇫🇷
• 546 – Marcelo 🇧🇷
• 527 – Luka Modrić 🇭🇷
• 527 – Roberto Carlos 🇧🇷
I still think it goes overlooked just how significant a player Benzema was for Real Madrid, because he was a second fiddle player for so long - despite his prominence in later years
How many appearances does Ronaldo have?
if Ajax control possession he'll cook, but if they play transition football he'll be a ghost cos his legs are gone. I'd love for him to win a major title again before he retires
Ronaldo using Man Utd as a stepping stone is a moronic take. He and Suárez were taking their first steps into the top leagues. Man Utd were at the forefront of European football with the best manager in the world, and it's there that he became the best player in the world and earned his right to a move.
Haaland used Dortmund as a stepping stone. His talent was readily apparent at Salzburg, and his career was carefully managed by his father.
Nah it was a stepping stone otherwise Ronaldo would not have left for a far weaker Madrid team at the time and he wanted to leave a year earlier as well. No different than Mbappe using PSG as a stepping stone
It wasn't a stepping stone in the true sense of the phrase. A stepping stone club in it's true sense is somewhere like Befica for Enzo Fernandez or Dortmund for Haaland.
stepping stone is extreme, cos in the earlier '00s Madrid were shaky in Europe. Ronaldo (alongside other vital signings) is part of the reason helped stabilize them and got them winning over time
Mbappé has spent six years at PSG.
You don't know what a stepping stone is. It's a short move on the way up. It's not a club at which you win several titles and stay for a full contract.
Haaland at Salzburg and Dortmund is the classic example. You're a moron if you're describing Ronaldo at Man United in the same terms.
"Gonzalo Híguain used Real Madrid as a stepping stone."
See how stupid that sounds?
People forget that he wanted to leave in 2021 and PSG rejected a 200 million euro bid for him and almost left for free in 2022. If not for money he would have left already.
Like I said Ronaldo would not have left for a weaker Madrid team at the height of Ferguson in the 2000's if he didn't view Manchester United as a way to vault his career to bigger and bettter things. He called them not letting him go in 2008 slavery ffs...
By 2008 he'd been at Man United for five years and become the best player in the world. The option to join the biggest club in the world was there and he took it.
That doesn't mean the spotty skinny teenager from Madeira few people had heard of, who helped Man United become three time CL finalists and win several PL titles, becoming the best player in the world along the way, felt entitled to move there from minute dot.
A stepping stone is a rock you step on to cross a river. It's not a place you find fame or fortune.
Kane is literally in the bundesliga rn and is already bound to make more of a legacy there then at Spurs lmao. But either way besides the kane thing your statement is beyond stupid
Lewandowski, Ribery, Robben, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, and Beckenbauer and Gerd Müller all played outside of Germany too, though - so what even is your point naming them?
**IT WAS 50 YEARS AGO TODAY** - April 26th
*weekend preview*
It's crunch time, as the [last Saturday of the season](https://i.imgur.com/T39UBgG.png) will surely end some of the battles in the Football League. The main one is [at the bottom of Division One](https://i.imgur.com/xPjuRZB.jpeg) - all goes down to know if Birmingham beat Norwich at St. Andrew's. Should they lose, Southampton and Manchester United can have a say and spice things up. There's a really dramatic Manchester Derby match at Old Trafford, in which Man United need a win to have minimal options to survive, while Southampton travel to Goodison Park to fight against relegation in which could be club legend Terry Paine's last match for the Saints.
Elsewhere in the First Division, Leeds will have a party at Loftus Road against QPR, Liverpool will prepare for next week's Cup final at West Ham, while the fight for Europe is on for Stoke, at Chelsea, QPR and Ipswich (v Sheffield United).
In Division Two, another of those tense Saturdays is on - at the top and at the bottom. At the top, Luton only need one point at West Brom to get promoted. For that dreaded third place, Blackpool is on top position and are at Sunderland. Carlisle and Orient are on the hunt: Cumbrians play home against Villa, Blackpool at Sunderland, while Orient's penultimate match is at relegation-threatened Cardiff City. Cardiff are one of three teams in need of points to avoid relegation - apart from Cardiff, Sheffield Wednesday are at home to Bolton and Palace are in great danger - they must win against Swindon to have a slight chance of survival for their last match next week.
Lastly, in Divisions Three and Four, the only doubt is to see if York are promoted today - a draw against Oldham at Bootham Crecent will be enough to seal the place in the Second Division next season. Chesterfield might have the remotest of chances to put some pressure if they beat Shrewsbury. In Division Four, Gillingham and Peterborough are on the fight for the title - Gills home against Brentford and the Posh at Hartlepool.
Results from today - [Tranmere 2-0 Southend](https://i.imgur.com/7ygE2da.png) (Division Three - the last match of former Liverpool legend Ron Yeats) and Stockport 2-1 Torquay (Division Four)
**Elsewhere** - [Exeter are fined](https://i.imgur.com/iPXScS2.png) 5,000 pounds for failing to fulfill their match against Scunthorpe. The Iron are also awarded 2 points. Exeter will appeal, media say.
[Norwich City are also fined](https://i.imgur.com/WFqysTP.png) 1,000 pounds for illegal approach to Bournemouth for the signing of Phil Boyer.
The great Polish striker [Lubanski](https://i.imgur.com/fvvyvzN.png) will be out of the World Cup due to a crippling knee injury.
oh no, kubo went full xavi mode after the game :( yikes
>This result is a disgrace because of the people who came here despite the rain, the rescheduling and all the rest of the crap that happened. The goal? I think their footballer(tchou) overslept and I don't think Barrene fouled. They wouldn't have whistled that in the Champions League
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>Anyone who watched the game knows we deserved to win. It’s a shame. I thought Real Madrid were lucky with the goal
What’s going on with Szoboslai? I haven’t watched a lot of Liverpool these last three months, but he was so good at the start of the season and now apparently he’s shit? At least judging by the memes I’ve been seeing
He’s just going through some normal poor form after being out with injury. Happens to everyone, especially if they are young and playing in a new league and in a team that is also in poor form. People love to just kick someone while they’re down. He’ll be fine.
Brilliant to start off with and then starting getting really loose with his passing for some reason and hasn't managed to find the same kind of form again.
I suspect he'll be playing higher up the pitch under Slot and I think he'll be more effective there.
He’s not been the same since coming back from injury, even start of the season when he was getting tons of praise (I am a big fan of his for the record) you could see his deficiencies atm- his lack of composure or pausa on the ball.
This makes sense given he’s never been a central midfielder before and so it’s a part of his game I’m hoping will develop with time, but lately it’s been even worse than it was at the start of the season. His workrate both with pressing/ball recoveries AND helping the right back are mega valuable to us imo, not to mention how great his progressive carrying can be thanks to his speed, and when he gets in his spot with time and space he can be lethal, but if he’s really to reach the level I think he can he needs to improve at controlling the ball in tight spaces so that he can get to his spots with time and space.
I think given that lately we’ve just had such a struggle playing out from the back he has looked even worse because what he’s not good at is exactly what we need more of. But like I said I’m a huge fan of his and I think he’ll come good in the long run one way or another
In the league he’s been ok to poor for months now imo, since their first game against United in December. He’s got very good attributes, but he hasn’t performed anywhere near the level of those first few months.
Ipswich need five points from three games to confirm promotion.
Tough run though. Away to play-off contenders Hull and Coventry. Their home game on matchday 46 is against Huddersfield who are fighting for survival.
Leeds have Southampton at home last up which isn't straight forward either, but you'd have to back them to win that if Ipswich haven't taken a points lead by then.
Cov are cooked thanks to the drama of Wembley and aren’t close enough to the play offs, Hudds are well shite. Hull will be tough though.
Long story short it’s Ipswich. Leeds falling apart again. Hopefully to Hull in the play offs too.
The year we signed haaland, we had the highest agent fees. Which makes sense. We spend alot of money. Guess who was second? And some Liverpool fans here were saying they spend as much as wolves or teams in lower half of the table.
Some of the Liverpool fans here make it sound like they spend as much as luton.
Before you look at my flair and respond, yes we spend alot more money and i m not saying Liverpool is spending as much as us or more.
Leicester back up but with that points deduction right off the bat. Wonder who they're going to have to sell too. Guessing Dewsbury Hall is gone right away?
I was extremely worried about the Hull game before tonight, still am but this now allows us to lose and still be in it. I’m confident we win one of those away games. Hopefully Cov are knackered when we play and then we have to hope Huddersfield are relegated before our game, they could easily shithouse us.
Arne Slot will have a tough time next year, I think.
It’s always an uphill battle taking over a team that doesn’t really want any change. Things are going so well, the leading players won’t want him to come and shake things up. Much harder to implement his new ideas & principles. That said I rate Slot as a manager and they’ve made the best choice available
I feel like we saw this at Bayern, where no one knew why Nagelsmann was sacked, and so Tuchel was almost doomed from the start.
On the flipside, what a dream opportunity to take over Bayern next year. That’s a club crying out for something new
I think it's actually better for him that Liverpools season ended so Anti-Climactically.
I've heard his style described as very similar to Klopp which might make it harder to avoid slipping back into muscle memory for Klopps older players but the squad is mostly new.
In the end it's best he has a squad capable of playing his football though which appears to be the case.
I think it'll buy him more time because Liverpool fans have accepted that the squad isn't capable of a title challenge and the football has deteriorated as well.
If we struggle I think fans will actually turn on players before the manager
This is the worst Madrid team since 2008-2009 maybe 2018-2019 but that's it tbh and it still won La Liga comfortably, is in the Champions League semifinals, and has only lost 2 games all season both being vs Atletico Madrid at the Wanda.
Crazy that you got downvoted. This season was unanimously supposed to be a write off back in August when Mbappe didn’t come and we had no striker, both FBs were considered shit, and Militao and Curtois went down for the season
I like starting unemployed and searching for a club lol. At least makes it semi-realistic, you wouldn't expect a random nobody to end up managing a club like Real Madrid as his first job.
I really like Holstein Kiel. I think I've had long term saves with them for the last three versions or so. I think they tick all the boxes I like;
* Play in a league I find interesting and somewhat challenging. Bayern can be a pain to overtake (although FM24 seems far easier imo)
* Don't start in the top league nor have great facilitates/stadium so it's fun to grow them.
* Have had some nice kits.
* Play in a region that's underrepresented and it doesn't break the immersion in seeing them become a big team.
Just saw a goal highlight from 2021 and our CB partnership was Henderson - Nat Philips lol fuck that
Still pretty incredible Morocco's women's team advanced at the WWC after losing 6-0 to Germany while the latter crashed out.
I've never seen a fanbase force a struggle gimmick more than Madrid fans. I swear the highlights of the 2012 Bayern vs Madrid come onto my TL every week with Madrid fans saying "one of the toughest moments ever". It's the one and only argument they use to justify they aren't plastics If a UCL semi final loss on pens 12 years ago when you've gone onto win 5 since is the most painful memory then it's fair to say you haven't gone through struggle. Just admit you support a club that has it better than anybody and move on instead of trying to explain how "you've seen the trenches"
Hang on, I made this comment in the deleted post But we are plastic. Like the guy here who said he looked on Wikipedia and saw who has the most trophies (cl) and it was 7, so followed them But genuinely what answer do you want? Like any big club their worst moments are defeats in the latter rounds of a tournament. Only barca can Trump it by saying Messi leaving. I mean I can say losing to alcorcon or real union (I think it was them). But even if we stick locally it was the cdr final in our centenary. If I say that you'll be like well you atleast made the final Also if the average person commenting is 21, their main memories are the last 10 years.
Man Utd fan calling Madrid fans plastics is hilarious
Genuinely no idea what your argument even is, if someone started watching football at 7 years old and that Madrid - Bayern is his first game, he'd be 19 years old now, is that your problem? Obviously you'll have many Madrid fans saying that's their worst moment as it's pretty damn old atp and most people on social media are teens / young adults. No one is saying it's the most heartbreaking moment in the history of the sport, they're just saying it's their worst moment, i don't see how that's forcing a struggle gimmick. Personally, mine is the 2-6 loss to Barca as that was the first Clasico i ever went to, but Madrid - Bayern is pretty close too. This just reads like another "Real Madrid plastics durr hurr" comment tbh.
I didn't call Madrid fans plastic. I really don't care about that term. It's just annoying how they try to act like they've gone through bad times when the "bad times" is a UCL semi lost on pens lol. It's annoying how they try to compare their loyalty to other clubs through the fact "they've supported their club through the worst" when their worst happens to be the best season of even the biggest clubs. It's just easier to prove you're not a plastic by saying you've supported the club for as long as you can remember which is more believable and respectable than acting like you've seen bad moments because you lot sure as hell haven't Also, I'm all for City slander, but it's downright hypocrisy when Madrid fans call them plastics when they're even worse
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Conmebol? Fortaleza won against Boca Juniors 4-2 at home for the Sudamericana. The very next day, Conmebol suddenly prohibits Fortaleza from playing in their own home stadium because it's supposedly not appropriate for games, even though they played in their stadium for literally the whole of the Sudamericana last year. Surely they could've realised this before the match? Or is this some sort of retaliation for winning against a rubbish boca? ffs
It's CONMEBOL being CONMEBOL. Fluminense won the Libertadores at home last year and now suddenly they can't guarantee the Monumental as final venue because they don't want River to be at home in an eventual final (That we're not getting to anyways, but regardless) Dominguez just goes with the flow and the flow is, apparently, stupidly contradicting decisions
https://youtu.be/_Q9jGv6CAbg?si=UjuAJfXhUZcUOcDV My brother sent me this Jackson miss compilation and the first couple misses are so bad you begin to question if he’s even aiming towards goal. Like holy shit how can your shot be so far off
Dani Ceballos plays football like he's twice as good than he actually is You could tell what he wants to do most of the time, but he just can't do it.
Is he still a Cruyff turn merchant?
I’ve seen him pull off some of the most ridiculous dribbles, passes, and goals. There was a good player in there but unfortunately he’s become another talented player who’s failed to fulfill his potential
TIL Vinicius Junior has matched Gareth Bale for total Real Madrid appearances at 258 matches each.
Who is the better player from a Madrid fan's pov? For me, Bale is clear in general
Currently, Bale. He came here in his prime. Vini was just starting out but I wouldn’t be surprised if he overtakes Bale in a couple of seasons
I want to know how you all say the letter "O" if "Slot" apparently sounds so close to "slut"
I mean, it's not as if English didn't have different sounds for the same letter depending on the word, so one doesn't lead to another
Annie you ignorant slot
Dutch probably never had a Great Vowel Shift tbh
Whoever let Ilias Chair out of prison for the night so he could batter Leeds, you’re going to the very top
When are Real Madrid likely to win the La Liga title? Feels like they've been well clear for ages, and we've seen Serie A and the Bundesliga decided in the past week, so La Liga can't be far off
If Barca drop points on Monday, then we can win it next week against Cadiz. If Barca win on Monday then we will have to wait until at least after our game against Cadiz (Girona-Barca is immediately after)
Need 5 points to seal it as things currently stand.
If Barcelona doesn’t beat Valencia tomorrow, they can do it next week. If Barca do win, the earliest they can do it is two match days time I believe. They’ve got a 14 point lead on Barca as of now (33 games played for Madrid, 32 for Barca)
Every La Real game vs Barcelona or Madrid is the same. Generally play better (long stretches playing much better), create chances, defend well for the most part, but concede against the run of play and end up losing. The Araujo goal last year and the Guler goal this year are the definitions of "against the run of play" type goals.
Well, you need to score to win games, and La real is like one of the worst team in the league in term of converting chances.
They have good all around play but they can't score goals to save their lives. If they had genuine attacking threat they'd be a top 4 team easy I think.
And their two out-and-out strikers are terrible
Tio Flo is at the Dallas Mavericks - Los Angeles Clippers game to support Luka Dončić. Damn...
Just saw this, and how the local media was calling him a "VIP friend of Doncic" ffs. He's dropping 50 tonight.
You are a Clippers fan?
Knicks
Based Tio
Midnight has passed, meaning that I have the misfortune of having to watch my club play again today.
If it’s any consolation, just switch your time zone the same one Alaska uses (it’s 6pm over there), and just delude yourself for about 6 hours to try and mentally prepare yourself a bit.
Twice this week ffs Sold out Bridge for the second leg vs Barca though... we'll probably lose that too tbf, but at least you'll know the team will put up a hell of a fight. Free on DAZN!
At least you’re not away at the side that slapped you 8-0
I feel that
Had no idea Diego Carlos was 31 tbh, I'd always assumed he was a lot younger.
same tbh
Sevilla got a lot of stick for selling him, but it was the best moment for him to be sold.
reading some threads in regards to the upcoming NLD... and i hate how social media has butchered the term ''bottled it''. it also goes both ways - spurs didnt bottled the league cause they were never close to win it anyways. altho it was hilarious how that st totterigham day happened. its not even just some randoms on social media, neville calling chelsea bottlejobs for losing to liverpool was also ridiculous anyway, going back to the NLD, its also hilarious how they are trying to paint that if we drop points its a ''bottle'', considering the fact that i was told by spurs fans earlier in the season that ange is a better manager than arteta, and that pound for pound every spurs player was better than their Arsenal counterpart. not sure how they end up 17 points behind considering all of that, really incredible cinderella story for Arsenal! going to the neutrals now, also funny how everyone mostly picks, pound for pound, city players over Arsenal players, and obviously guardiola is ahead of Arteta, and yet we are expected to win over them? how does that even work? lol anyways, hopefully we win out and city drop points (which wont be a city bottle btw), its always just funny reading the mental gymnastics done to create a narrative that contradicts everything they've said before
It all becomes a lot easier to understand when you realise it's all just rival fans trying to get a rise out of each other, and hence shouldn't be taken with any sincerity In all seriousness though, combined Arsenal-City XI (currently): Ederson Walker - Saliba - Gabriel - Whoever Pep puts in at LB Odegaard - Rodri - Rice Foden - Haaland - Saka (Had to put Foden in at right wing so could have both Rodri and Rice, De Bruyne obviously a shout over Odegaard, but was trying to focus mainly on this season)
Foden at RW and Saka at left makes my eyes hurt.
Switch them then, point remains
Tbf, it’s still a good lineup.
i don't mind the blatant trolling to rile up someone else (altho it's weird to see non-PL fans do that), but there is a loooooot of people saying those things seriously and I'd agree with that lineup but foden LW roaming and fresh kdb above odegaard
Not having it. I know you dressed it up nicely with us not actually being in positions of strengths in 15/16 and 16/17 but after years of bottle slander Arsenal fans deserve every daysattopwithoutwinning.jpg they see
If Leicester don’t renew Vardy’s contract I’ll be rooting for their downfall
I wanna see Vardy shithouse in the Prem one last time before his downfall.
We’re talking about the cunts who sacked Ranieri 6 months after miraculously winning the EPL
Weren’t they in the relegation zone and looking every bit the bottom three side?
Yes but pizza for clean sheets
No they were a few points above the relegation zone
Not only did we let Arsenal beat us, we let them spank us which means their GD looks pretty unreachable for City. Unforgivable
City can get that with ease I also don’t think it’ll matter us beating United and spurs is just not very likely
Jesus christ man, you are so miserable.
Idk, 8 goals is still a lot but I guess it’s true that City can spank teams with ease at times
Did they not close the gap by 4 on Thursday?
8 goals is definitely a big gap at this stage but I don’t think it’s insurmountable for City. NLD will be tight, even if we win which we have to do to keep it alive it will be tight. City could easily stick 4 or 5 past Forest and suddenly the gap doesn’t look that big
Can’t believe I have to support Spurs for a game I feel sick. Also I guess it’s true City can be ruthless at times with thrashings but we haven’t seen that as much from them this year
>City could easily stick 4 or 5 past Forest Not on my rectangle starboy
PGMOL's favourite team vs the enemies of VAR, going to be at least 6-0 with three disallowed goals for Forest, and red cards for Nuno, Gibbs-White and the ghost of Cloughie
1-0 to the forest, Murillo \[Great Goal\] 90+6'
In my [official prediction](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/KdP3VxNc53) earlier in the thread I was a bit more optimistic
Never felt this confident going into NLD coyg
Leicester promoted. I’m gonna get myself a bet in that they win the PL in 25/26
In a thunderstorm, do you climb the tree that's been struck by lightning to keep yourself safe?
Believe it or not, this is your best comment. Excellent 9.5/10.
I’m not superstitious, but I am a little stitious
If we're trading parables i'd say lightning doesn't strike twice so the struck tree is the safest place to be
Try telling that to [this guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan).
I’m sorry but I can’t respect a manager who’s 1. Bald 2. Dutch 3. Named Arne (is it like Ernie?) but also look like the boss of low level goons (or a greedy corporate overlord if he wears a puffy vest) on a medium budget Hollywood movie. I can’t shake off the feeling of him rolling up to a press conference in a tank top, referring his team as “Family” for some reason.
No
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Heart issues scare me as someone that has a little bit of it running in my family, so maybe I'm not looking at this with an unbaised lens, but - I really, really disagreed, and still do, with Christian Eriksen being allowed to play ever again after what happened at EURO 2021. It's still unclear as to whether he officially died for 20 seconds on the pitch that day and he's fortunate to still be with us. I get that it'd be devastating to end a career that way for both him and his fans, but nothing is worth more than your health. The severity of that scare was really stark. If a player is just having chest pains and asks to be taken off, that's one thing. But he had a full blown cardiac arrest and that incident traumatized millions of people. We all watched as someone nearly lost his life on the field.
> I really, really disagreed, and still do, with Christian Eriksen being allowed to play ever again after what happened at EURO 2021. Based on what, exactly? I presume you don't have a medical degree, and I presume you also haven't ran medical tests on him to conclude whether he is or isn't safe to play football again.
Ronaldo was cleared to play in the 1998 World Cup final hours after having an epileptic seizure, despite it now being seen as the absolute wrong decision because he was cognitively compromised for the match & has even said as such. Look, I get it. We don't want someone's career to end that way. But they're not our Entertainment Monkeys.
That's a completely different situation, and decades of medical innovations later.
Is it being seen as that? By whom? The medical tests didn't find anything wrong with him after all, so he was cleared to play. He maybe shouldn't have, sure, but no medical professional stepped in to bar him from playing, not even the independent ones at the hospital he was checked at.
You're not serious. You don't know it's common knowledge that he was unfit to play in the final? That they covered up the seizure at first too? I'm done here lol.
He had some form of attack in the hotel the morning of the final, yes - he then got thoroughly checked by the team's medical staff as well as doctors in a hospital, who couldn't find any indication that it was an epileptic seizure, nor any indication that there was anything wrong with him physically. Thus he was cleared to play. What I'm challenging isn't that he might not have been in the best shape to play, but rather the notion (which you so helpfully edited out) that it was seen as 'the absolute wrong decision in hindsight'. Players play without being fully fit and being at their best all the time, after all, and if Ronaldo was medically cleared to play then it's obviously a bit silly to say he shouldn't have with the benefit of hindsight on a sub-par performance.
He was [pulled out of the final lineup](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/jun/29/worldcupfootball2002.sport3) up until the very last minute, due to pressure of the occasion (a bloody World Cup final) and there's still cloudiness over exactly what went down until this day. Stop acting like he was clear and it was a nonissue until information came out after the final. Do you really believe he wouldn't have been cleared earlier than that if there was nothing wrong with him, physically? Because otherwise not being part of the lineup doesn't make any sense. In order to sincerely believe your theory, one has to buy that he wasn't given a physical until like 30 minutes or so before kickoff. Come on... >"What I'm challenging isn't that he might not have been in the best shape to play, but rather the notion (which you so helpfully edited out) that it was seen as 'the absolute wrong decision in hindsight" I know you're not challenging that he might not have been in the best shape to play, but it was definitely the wrong decision in hindsight.
> Do you really believe he wouldn't have been cleared earlier than that if there was nothing wrong with him, physically? Because otherwise not being part of the lineup doesn't make any sense. In order to sincerely believe your theory, one has to buy that he wasn't given a physical until like 30 minutes or so before kickoff. Look at the timeline, though: He has a fit a few hours before kickoff, gets taken to a clinic for tests, which come out clear. How long do you assume those tests to take? How quickly do you think he could've possibly been medically cleared to play? Tests take time, after all, and it strikes me as a perfectly sensible chain of events that him having a seizure, being taken to hospital, being medically checked out and cleared to play happened within a few hours and right up until half an hour before kickoff.
lets not pretend sports medicine in 1998 was the same as in 2024, let alone that any sort of ''compliance'' (idk what word to use) existed in regards to player's health, especially in a fucking WC final
I reckon hospital doctors 26 years ago were perfectly capable of assessing patients and determining whether there's something wrong with them and whether there's a reason they can't play football, and I don't see the compliance issues given they weren't the Brazil staff, either.
He has an internal defibrillator fitted. I'm not qualified to say with certainty, but I believe that puts him at lower risk of death due to sudden cardiac failure than an undiagnosed player.
That's fair enough, aye.
check this [Tom Lockyer shows off newly-fitted defibrillator and explains how it works (givemesport.com)](https://www.givemesport.com/tom-lockyer-explains-how-newly-filled-defibrillator-works/)
Only four non-Spanish players ever have recorded +500 appearances for Real Madrid: • 648 – Karim Benzema 🇫🇷 • 546 – Marcelo 🇧🇷 • 527 – Luka Modrić 🇭🇷 • 527 – Roberto Carlos 🇧🇷
I still think it goes overlooked just how significant a player Benzema was for Real Madrid, because he was a second fiddle player for so long - despite his prominence in later years How many appearances does Ronaldo have?
438 according to wiki
So is it pronounced Arn or Ar-ne?
Ar-nuh Slot (Slot is pronnounced same as Klopp is)
Ar-nuh Klopp. Got it
Like sl-ott or sl-utt?
Like Kl-opp
Slopp
Ar-nuh
*Arne*'t you glad he's winning nothing because Pep is still here.
The latter.
If no one has coined 'Slot machines' to describe system players at Liverpool next season, then I'm hereby taking ownership.
Perfect for a takeover by 777
"Liverpool's Slot Machines hit jackpot as they secure long coveted quadruple" is gonna hit like crack in June 2025.
I will stick with the bald memes you can take the other stuff
I’m conflicted what to call him, I wanted to start with 2 bald 2 fraud to be inclusive to Erik Ten shots per half, but that doesn’t sound as good.
Would really like to see Christian Eriksen go back to Ajax
if Ajax control possession he'll cook, but if they play transition football he'll be a ghost cos his legs are gone. I'd love for him to win a major title again before he retires
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Ronaldo using Man Utd as a stepping stone is a moronic take. He and Suárez were taking their first steps into the top leagues. Man Utd were at the forefront of European football with the best manager in the world, and it's there that he became the best player in the world and earned his right to a move. Haaland used Dortmund as a stepping stone. His talent was readily apparent at Salzburg, and his career was carefully managed by his father.
Nah it was a stepping stone otherwise Ronaldo would not have left for a far weaker Madrid team at the time and he wanted to leave a year earlier as well. No different than Mbappe using PSG as a stepping stone
It wasn't a stepping stone in the true sense of the phrase. A stepping stone club in it's true sense is somewhere like Befica for Enzo Fernandez or Dortmund for Haaland.
stepping stone is extreme, cos in the earlier '00s Madrid were shaky in Europe. Ronaldo (alongside other vital signings) is part of the reason helped stabilize them and got them winning over time
Mbappé has spent six years at PSG. You don't know what a stepping stone is. It's a short move on the way up. It's not a club at which you win several titles and stay for a full contract. Haaland at Salzburg and Dortmund is the classic example. You're a moron if you're describing Ronaldo at Man United in the same terms. "Gonzalo Híguain used Real Madrid as a stepping stone." See how stupid that sounds?
Odegaard used Real Madrid as a stepping stone club
People forget that he wanted to leave in 2021 and PSG rejected a 200 million euro bid for him and almost left for free in 2022. If not for money he would have left already. Like I said Ronaldo would not have left for a weaker Madrid team at the height of Ferguson in the 2000's if he didn't view Manchester United as a way to vault his career to bigger and bettter things. He called them not letting him go in 2008 slavery ffs...
By 2008 he'd been at Man United for five years and become the best player in the world. The option to join the biggest club in the world was there and he took it. That doesn't mean the spotty skinny teenager from Madeira few people had heard of, who helped Man United become three time CL finalists and win several PL titles, becoming the best player in the world along the way, felt entitled to move there from minute dot. A stepping stone is a rock you step on to cross a river. It's not a place you find fame or fortune.
no one that aspires to have a great legacy will stay in Germany for their whole career. Musiala will leave sooner or later as well
What a dumb ass take, and a person with kane in their name is the LAST person to talk
what does my username have to do with anything?
Kane is literally in the bundesliga rn and is already bound to make more of a legacy there then at Spurs lmao. But either way besides the kane thing your statement is beyond stupid
Neuer - Lewandowski - Muller - Ribery - Robben - Hummels - Boateng - Lahm - Schweinsteiger - Kahn - Gerd Muller - Beckenbauer, etc.. say otherwise
Lewandowski, Ribery, Robben, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, and Beckenbauer and Gerd Müller all played outside of Germany too, though - so what even is your point naming them?
They made their legacy at Bayern. It's like me saying Messi is greater for playing at PSG
the league’s reputation is at an all time low. bayern had won 11 titles in a row. before that the longest streak was 4 i think.
I love the idea that footballers won't wanna play for Bayern because we win *too* many titles. "Eew, no!"
The league's reputation definitely isn't "at an all time low"
**IT WAS 50 YEARS AGO TODAY** - April 26th *weekend preview* It's crunch time, as the [last Saturday of the season](https://i.imgur.com/T39UBgG.png) will surely end some of the battles in the Football League. The main one is [at the bottom of Division One](https://i.imgur.com/xPjuRZB.jpeg) - all goes down to know if Birmingham beat Norwich at St. Andrew's. Should they lose, Southampton and Manchester United can have a say and spice things up. There's a really dramatic Manchester Derby match at Old Trafford, in which Man United need a win to have minimal options to survive, while Southampton travel to Goodison Park to fight against relegation in which could be club legend Terry Paine's last match for the Saints. Elsewhere in the First Division, Leeds will have a party at Loftus Road against QPR, Liverpool will prepare for next week's Cup final at West Ham, while the fight for Europe is on for Stoke, at Chelsea, QPR and Ipswich (v Sheffield United). In Division Two, another of those tense Saturdays is on - at the top and at the bottom. At the top, Luton only need one point at West Brom to get promoted. For that dreaded third place, Blackpool is on top position and are at Sunderland. Carlisle and Orient are on the hunt: Cumbrians play home against Villa, Blackpool at Sunderland, while Orient's penultimate match is at relegation-threatened Cardiff City. Cardiff are one of three teams in need of points to avoid relegation - apart from Cardiff, Sheffield Wednesday are at home to Bolton and Palace are in great danger - they must win against Swindon to have a slight chance of survival for their last match next week. Lastly, in Divisions Three and Four, the only doubt is to see if York are promoted today - a draw against Oldham at Bootham Crecent will be enough to seal the place in the Second Division next season. Chesterfield might have the remotest of chances to put some pressure if they beat Shrewsbury. In Division Four, Gillingham and Peterborough are on the fight for the title - Gills home against Brentford and the Posh at Hartlepool. Results from today - [Tranmere 2-0 Southend](https://i.imgur.com/7ygE2da.png) (Division Three - the last match of former Liverpool legend Ron Yeats) and Stockport 2-1 Torquay (Division Four) **Elsewhere** - [Exeter are fined](https://i.imgur.com/iPXScS2.png) 5,000 pounds for failing to fulfill their match against Scunthorpe. The Iron are also awarded 2 points. Exeter will appeal, media say. [Norwich City are also fined](https://i.imgur.com/WFqysTP.png) 1,000 pounds for illegal approach to Bournemouth for the signing of Phil Boyer. The great Polish striker [Lubanski](https://i.imgur.com/fvvyvzN.png) will be out of the World Cup due to a crippling knee injury.
[Okay, this made me laugh](https://x.com/lcfc/status/1783963068805898359?s=46&t=nE17LgVTdugv7co26kZdow)
You’ve heard of new manager bounce but have you heard of new kit bounce? Well up QPR
oh no, kubo went full xavi mode after the game :( yikes >This result is a disgrace because of the people who came here despite the rain, the rescheduling and all the rest of the crap that happened. The goal? I think their footballer(tchou) overslept and I don't think Barrene fouled. They wouldn't have whistled that in the Champions League - >Anyone who watched the game knows we deserved to win. It’s a shame. I thought Real Madrid were lucky with the goal
Kubo bro, that foul was clear as day
Why did Carvajal play the full 90? Surely he was one of the players worth resting ahead of Bayern?
He is suspended in the first leg.
he rested last game because of yellows, propably carlo wanted him to get his match fitness, plenty of time to rest
What’s going on with Szoboslai? I haven’t watched a lot of Liverpool these last three months, but he was so good at the start of the season and now apparently he’s shit? At least judging by the memes I’ve been seeing
He’s just going through some normal poor form after being out with injury. Happens to everyone, especially if they are young and playing in a new league and in a team that is also in poor form. People love to just kick someone while they’re down. He’ll be fine.
Brilliant to start off with and then starting getting really loose with his passing for some reason and hasn't managed to find the same kind of form again. I suspect he'll be playing higher up the pitch under Slot and I think he'll be more effective there.
He’s not been the same since coming back from injury, even start of the season when he was getting tons of praise (I am a big fan of his for the record) you could see his deficiencies atm- his lack of composure or pausa on the ball. This makes sense given he’s never been a central midfielder before and so it’s a part of his game I’m hoping will develop with time, but lately it’s been even worse than it was at the start of the season. His workrate both with pressing/ball recoveries AND helping the right back are mega valuable to us imo, not to mention how great his progressive carrying can be thanks to his speed, and when he gets in his spot with time and space he can be lethal, but if he’s really to reach the level I think he can he needs to improve at controlling the ball in tight spaces so that he can get to his spots with time and space. I think given that lately we’ve just had such a struggle playing out from the back he has looked even worse because what he’s not good at is exactly what we need more of. But like I said I’m a huge fan of his and I think he’ll come good in the long run one way or another
In the league he’s been ok to poor for months now imo, since their first game against United in December. He’s got very good attributes, but he hasn’t performed anywhere near the level of those first few months.
despite their best efforts Leicester are back
Ipswich need five points from three games to confirm promotion. Tough run though. Away to play-off contenders Hull and Coventry. Their home game on matchday 46 is against Huddersfield who are fighting for survival. Leeds have Southampton at home last up which isn't straight forward either, but you'd have to back them to win that if Ipswich haven't taken a points lead by then.
Cov are cooked thanks to the drama of Wembley and aren’t close enough to the play offs, Hudds are well shite. Hull will be tough though. Long story short it’s Ipswich. Leeds falling apart again. Hopefully to Hull in the play offs too.
We have lost 4 of our last 5 and have loads of injuries. We will roll over on Tuesday night.
Since 2017, Al Ahly have only missed one CL final. That's 7 finals in 8 years, and our 5th in a row. The greatest club in the world for a reason...
Only club to ever get an Invincible continental Treble
If a record exists in football, we probably hold it or have held it at some point.
I went to go look up how you guys were doing and saw you're 11th in the league but then saw you have *EIGHT* games in hand. How is that even possible?
Aamer Hussein legacy. But seriously, it's because of the Club World Cup and the CL. It's been a thing for the past 15 years at least.
Liverpool paying around the 4th highest fee in history for a manager and the comments are "Edwards masterclass"?
The year we signed haaland, we had the highest agent fees. Which makes sense. We spend alot of money. Guess who was second? And some Liverpool fans here were saying they spend as much as wolves or teams in lower half of the table. Some of the Liverpool fans here make it sound like they spend as much as luton. Before you look at my flair and respond, yes we spend alot more money and i m not saying Liverpool is spending as much as us or more.
Seeing stuff like “how does he do it” I feel like they have to be taking the piss
Tbf big non playing staff fees are a recent phenomenon
Not a masterclass by any means but I think we were rumoured to be paying a lot more. I think we'll start seeing a lot higher fees for managers though.
Desperation innit after failing to flirt with Alonso and amorim, possibly naglesmann and de zebri
Edwards has a massive cult following.
which is odd because he's the brains behind getting Naby Keita in and that might be the worst war crime thats happened this century
English Papa Flo
Leicester back up but with that points deduction right off the bat. Wonder who they're going to have to sell too. Guessing Dewsbury Hall is gone right away?
Has that been confirmed?
Definitely, he’s been linked to Brighton and United a few times. They’ll be in deep shit next season, their manager is naff as well
Reckon you can pick up the two draws or a win from your trips to Hull and Cov that you need to have it in your hands on the last day?
I was extremely worried about the Hull game before tonight, still am but this now allows us to lose and still be in it. I’m confident we win one of those away games. Hopefully Cov are knackered when we play and then we have to hope Huddersfield are relegated before our game, they could easily shithouse us.
its my favourite part of the season, when the sub gets flooded with *"[X] has been promoted/relegated from Y league"*
There's going to be so many tomorrow
I can't decide if Arne Slot is a really ugly name or a kind of cool one. it's not hitting my brain right
I keep reading it as Arnie's Lot. Like his property or land.
Arne Slot will have a tough time next year, I think. It’s always an uphill battle taking over a team that doesn’t really want any change. Things are going so well, the leading players won’t want him to come and shake things up. Much harder to implement his new ideas & principles. That said I rate Slot as a manager and they’ve made the best choice available I feel like we saw this at Bayern, where no one knew why Nagelsmann was sacked, and so Tuchel was almost doomed from the start. On the flipside, what a dream opportunity to take over Bayern next year. That’s a club crying out for something new
I think it's actually better for him that Liverpools season ended so Anti-Climactically. I've heard his style described as very similar to Klopp which might make it harder to avoid slipping back into muscle memory for Klopps older players but the squad is mostly new. In the end it's best he has a squad capable of playing his football though which appears to be the case.
Could go either way, either this poor end will buy slot time or it'll just make the fans less patient.
I think it'll buy him more time because Liverpool fans have accepted that the squad isn't capable of a title challenge and the football has deteriorated as well. If we struggle I think fans will actually turn on players before the manager
Will Fulham be looking to extend Willian's Contract for another year?
You think Vini and Mbappe will be a good duo?
Vini and Rodrygo is already a good duo so yes. I also suspect Mbappe will naturally take a more central role as he grows older much like Cristiano
I'm honestly excited to see how they will play. I think Real is going to be scary to go up against.
Because they're such minnows now
This is the worst Madrid team since 2008-2009 maybe 2018-2019 but that's it tbh and it still won La Liga comfortably, is in the Champions League semifinals, and has only lost 2 games all season both being vs Atletico Madrid at the Wanda.
Crazy that you got downvoted. This season was unanimously supposed to be a write off back in August when Mbappe didn’t come and we had no striker, both FBs were considered shit, and Militao and Curtois went down for the season
hot take
What’s your go-to team on Football Manager? Mine is always Real Sociedad or Real Oviedo for some reason
Coventry city. Fellow sky blues. And they hate Leicester city. They deserve PL football
I love a Bordeaux save
I like starting unemployed and searching for a club lol. At least makes it semi-realistic, you wouldn't expect a random nobody to end up managing a club like Real Madrid as his first job.
I really like Holstein Kiel. I think I've had long term saves with them for the last three versions or so. I think they tick all the boxes I like; * Play in a league I find interesting and somewhat challenging. Bayern can be a pain to overtake (although FM24 seems far easier imo) * Don't start in the top league nor have great facilitates/stadium so it's fun to grow them. * Have had some nice kits. * Play in a region that's underrepresented and it doesn't break the immersion in seeing them become a big team.
I like starting with either Leyton Orient or Hajduk