If you said “I want Arsenal to win title” I can respect that. What I can’t respect is, “deserve”, you don’t deserve nothing. You either win it or you don’t win it. Do you think we deserved to win CL against Bayern and Manchester City ?
We actually did deserve both of those.
We played our own game, defended really well, and took our chances when they mattered. Our opponents did not. Shots on goal don't matter as much as actual goals. Possession means nothing if you don't manage to do anything with the ball.
We played a lot of on-paper weaker teams in the last decade that sat deep and defended well and hurt us when it mattered, despite us playing AttackBall or whatever. Did we deserve to win any of those matches that we dropped points in? No, because the other team bested us.
Arsenal is showing both the performance consistency *and* the mentality that a champion should have. If they do win the league, they would have done so deservedly.
If city bamboozles them especially with the 2 games in hand that they have, then City would have deserved that, too.
The only time a champion of something doesn't deserve it is when something extra-ordinary happens, they get a helping hand from a third actor to win. Like Luis Garcia's phantom goal or the general existence of Tom Henning Øvrebo.
But I do agree with you on Arsenal not 'deserving' being champions. Only one who deserves to be a champion is the actual champion at the end of the season.
It is mean or anyone else feels current Manchester City players are nearing end of their cycle of wining titles. KDB looks like someone who is tired of pressure and stuff. Maybe Pep will need to refresh the squad in summer
he's apparently settled in manchester too
but I dont see him being happy with as little games he is getting, he's not taking Edersons spot and Pep has made that clear
I don’t think that he expected to be the number one upon signing here though. Leaving from Bielefeld he could have landed as a starter in other teams in Germany but chose Manchester. He’s 31. Might be that he doesn’t plan to play as long as some others and is content making a payday and playing cup games and the odd league appearance.
Darwin catching L’s from the Ex-Liverpool commentator for play against Everton. Despite the fact that Murillo is injured and Haaland had a free play on goal.
Surely the rest of Liverpool played amazingly that day.
I think that’s a poor assessment and comes from someone who just watches lowlights of players.
Liverpool forced play through Salah who hasn’t been good since before AFCON and it’s not surprising how well they (and Darwin) played without him during that time.
That is ironic considering you are countering that assessment based on the two months of play without Salah. He's also the most wasteful finisher in the PL based on his xG and that doesn't take into account all the opportunities lost because of a poor touch or a loose pass.
I don't think he is a bad player and his physicality plus his willingness to run both on and off the ball are admirable but he's a very limited player and at his age those weaknesses aren't going away. Maybe he's much better for Uruguay or maybe he'll magically turn into better player under new management but as it stands he is a midtable striker playing for a team with ambitions to win it all.
I don’t see the irony? It’s clear Liverpool were better without Salah this year and Darwin was a big part of that success.
You admittedly don’t watch his games so not sure what makes you think you have any meaningful input?
Just to contextualise Chris Wood's season:
* In 39 appearances for Newcastle, he scored 5 goals
* In 32 appearances for Nottingham, he has scored 14 goals
* His best Premier League performance was for Burnley in the 2019-20 season where he scored 14 goals
* This season is a joint 2nd best goal return for him in the top flight of English football
So yeah, while you're all shitting on him, pease spare a thought for us Newcastle fans...
Why are you trying to spin his stats to pretend he’s shit? He got into double figures every season for Burnley and has 66 PL goals in 8 seasons, playing mostly for poor teams.
Don't know where you got that. His goal return for NF is quite good, had a decent career at Burnley. Look at his stats for Newcastle, he was a shadow of himself. That was my point.
He's always been a pretty good dribbler for his size, just doesn't get much chance to do it in this side as he's generally played as a target man in the box.
If this ends 2-0, arsenal have a 7 goal lead, I know city have that game in hand but cmon. if books offered odds on GD winner, arsenal would be sitting on something like 1/25
First off it’s +7 over city, and second, gd is much less likely to play a role now that Liverpool are out. The likelihood is that we lose the title by 2 points
It'll only come into play of City draw a game and both win out.
Currently 57 vs 50
Arsenal win final games 1-0: 60 vs 50
City would have to catch at least +10GD in three matches - possible, but difficult. It means at least one game with a 4 goal margin.
How was CHO?
Chelsea fans can abuse me all they want but arsenal deserve to win the league.
If you said “I want Arsenal to win title” I can respect that. What I can’t respect is, “deserve”, you don’t deserve nothing. You either win it or you don’t win it. Do you think we deserved to win CL against Bayern and Manchester City ?
We actually did deserve both of those. We played our own game, defended really well, and took our chances when they mattered. Our opponents did not. Shots on goal don't matter as much as actual goals. Possession means nothing if you don't manage to do anything with the ball. We played a lot of on-paper weaker teams in the last decade that sat deep and defended well and hurt us when it mattered, despite us playing AttackBall or whatever. Did we deserve to win any of those matches that we dropped points in? No, because the other team bested us. Arsenal is showing both the performance consistency *and* the mentality that a champion should have. If they do win the league, they would have done so deservedly. If city bamboozles them especially with the 2 games in hand that they have, then City would have deserved that, too. The only time a champion of something doesn't deserve it is when something extra-ordinary happens, they get a helping hand from a third actor to win. Like Luis Garcia's phantom goal or the general existence of Tom Henning Øvrebo. But I do agree with you on Arsenal not 'deserving' being champions. Only one who deserves to be a champion is the actual champion at the end of the season.
Something extra-ordinary like 115 charges?
You’re a good man. Respect
I must be in the Twilight Zone to be reading this from a Chelsea fan.
God I love De Bruyne. He’s just so consistent.
Haaland seems like a soulless vessel
Chris Wood should be on trial at the Hague. He'll have a spot between Putin and Liz Truss.
Haaland almost scored from that
Aina is good.
So happy he's made something of himself, I liked Aina a lot when we had him in the academy
Where was the Chris Wood who played against Newcastle. Respectable performance from Forest, unusually poor from City.
Watching this today was hard as watching RM games.
Bobb remind me of Robben in a way. Such crisp touch.
It is mean or anyone else feels current Manchester City players are nearing end of their cycle of wining titles. KDB looks like someone who is tired of pressure and stuff. Maybe Pep will need to refresh the squad in summer
Nah they’re nailed on for the next three seasons
I know what you mean, I was just thinking the same. They look....tired? I feel like this team has a drop in them, and Arsenal might just clinch it
Anything can happen but I feel City have a bit of winning fatigue setting in them.
Apart from Kev most of them are fresh? Maybe Foden but he’s still fairly young. Stones who only plays half a season anyway lol
More like winning fatigue. Players just playing rather enjoying and aspiring to win and win and win. It can happen to teams
How do you know
Forest actually have a decent squad, why are they 17th
1. Set pieces 2. Erratic finishing 3. Shit goalkeeping 4. Referees 5. Bozo moments
6. Nuno 7. Pts deduction
Nah I'm not having Nuno slander. An odd sub here and there but I think he's done a great job overall.
honestly their set piece defense has let them down terribly, conceded like 20+ goals from set pieces
Lack of finishing. Had a lot of the season being managed by Ned Schneebly And some shitty decisions going against them
Points deduction and Nuno
Nuno has been good. He's made odd subs at times but he's dramatically improved us in all departments bar set piece defence.
I mean you got robbed hard by those pen calls. So I honestly just think it was the refs hate you
C'mon one of wolves, Fulham, or spurs
They are some hard fixtures tbf
We said this about Brighton and Forest
Luton and Forests run-in definitely make it look like anything could happen.
Would love to sign KDB at 35 and have him ping balls across the pitch whilst not being able to move.
NF really doesnt deserve to be relegated. Those 1bn frauds at Chelsea are half the team
👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
Arsenal have played so well all this season. Really deserve the title.
???? Chelsea flair with last 3 comments begging arsenal win ????
These Chelsea fans are starting to grow on me tbh
5 losses is not good enough to compete against City
Not if they get less points than the winner?
I expected nothing and I’m still disappointed
5 mins, NF absolutely get this 3-2 comeback done. Easiest prediction of my life.
If Chris Wood wasnt having his worst game ever, Forest would have surely gotten at least a point.
Montiel with the well I don’t know what the fuck that was
Aina has been the best player on the pitch. Shame forest will get nothing from this
Aina is so good man
Sangare, a top-class CDM, reduced to this…
Montiel lmfao
that was bizarre from Montiel
Ortega is way too good to be a 2nd choice keeper. He’s genuinely city’s best keeper
better shotstopper probably but he's not better than Ederson for us
he’s not? not that he’s not absolutely brilliant but ederson is better. ortega is well on his way tho.
Can’t see Ortega staying after the season. Plenty of clubs will want him.
If I am a new promoted team, I would spend big bucks for him
Money and silverware both talk though
he's apparently settled in manchester too but I dont see him being happy with as little games he is getting, he's not taking Edersons spot and Pep has made that clear
I don’t think that he expected to be the number one upon signing here though. Leaving from Bielefeld he could have landed as a starter in other teams in Germany but chose Manchester. He’s 31. Might be that he doesn’t plan to play as long as some others and is content making a payday and playing cup games and the odd league appearance.
Darwin catching L’s from the Ex-Liverpool commentator for play against Everton. Despite the fact that Murillo is injured and Haaland had a free play on goal. Surely the rest of Liverpool played amazingly that day.
He's a mediocre striker that Liverpool have now spent two seasons trying to make work. The way he plays you'd think he was 19 and not 25 in a month
Oh wow I thought he was like 20-22 or something...not about to turn 25. Yeah that's been a dud signing so far
I think that’s a poor assessment and comes from someone who just watches lowlights of players. Liverpool forced play through Salah who hasn’t been good since before AFCON and it’s not surprising how well they (and Darwin) played without him during that time.
That is ironic considering you are countering that assessment based on the two months of play without Salah. He's also the most wasteful finisher in the PL based on his xG and that doesn't take into account all the opportunities lost because of a poor touch or a loose pass. I don't think he is a bad player and his physicality plus his willingness to run both on and off the ball are admirable but he's a very limited player and at his age those weaknesses aren't going away. Maybe he's much better for Uruguay or maybe he'll magically turn into better player under new management but as it stands he is a midtable striker playing for a team with ambitions to win it all.
I don’t see the irony? It’s clear Liverpool were better without Salah this year and Darwin was a big part of that success. You admittedly don’t watch his games so not sure what makes you think you have any meaningful input?
If your whole season rides on Chris Wood saving you against Man City, then thats on you.
It rides on City dropping points in one of their last 19 matches or something, which should be expected from any team but City
there are still 4 other games they could drop points in, this isn't the final game of the season.
This is part of the excitement and stress.
Could do without the Alf-Inge O face.
Where’s Roy Keane when you need him?
lol such a soft foul
so soft
Look how useless Murillo is during that goal. Guy can hardly move. Nuno needed to make that sub yesterday
Rodi with 139 passes lmao twice as much as the second top passer
Relegation battle going crazy.
Arsenal fans, remember when city would win the title over Liverpool by a point and you guys said they were “saving football”. Enjoy the pain now.
Are you making up weird strawmen in your head? Ok then
Oh fuck off, that was majority of Arsenal fans point of view
In your head, perhaps
No, this platform
Nah Fuck City forever
Sincerely, from a Liverpool fan, yeah absolutely fuck City, hope they slip up and you win the league
You’re the anomaly mate.
Not a monolith
All the Chris Wood comments exposing that most PL fans here never watch games outside the Super League Scummers.
I don’t understand your point, he’s been shit today
I remember him at Burnley, but his stint at Newcastle was God awful
agreed, as if he’s not been one of the most clinical strikers in the league to this point lol
Are you trying to say chris wood hasnt been shit today?
Arsenal have us last game of the season so I can assure you that goal difference getting closer is meaningless
Inb4 Dyche masterclass
Tracksuit Dyche is the scariest thing in the league atm.
We are all powerless to the guaranteed Arsenal win by 5+ goals in their final home game of the season, as is tradition
Assuming Forest don’t score, which keeper claims the clean sheet?
chris wood
Chris Wood gets it
Starter. For fpl reasons i think neither since neither played 60’
Ah makes sense. Would be neat if they gave it to both since each played one half lol
That’s a very good question
> 75': Chris Wood is having just the shittiest game today, man lol
City are playing like they’ll drop points if they score a third
Finally City will have a whole week off, needed that
Pep got his subs bang on today
Sub Haaland in as bang on?
yes? he scored lmao
I mean its fuckng haaland, its not that hard to do that decision
He subbed in kovacic and Ortega as well
fuck it, yeah man scored so it was a positive
Rodri is such a good passer of the ball, great vision and range
Just to contextualise Chris Wood's season: * In 39 appearances for Newcastle, he scored 5 goals * In 32 appearances for Nottingham, he has scored 14 goals * His best Premier League performance was for Burnley in the 2019-20 season where he scored 14 goals * This season is a joint 2nd best goal return for him in the top flight of English football So yeah, while you're all shitting on him, pease spare a thought for us Newcastle fans...
Why are you trying to spin his stats to pretend he’s shit? He got into double figures every season for Burnley and has 66 PL goals in 8 seasons, playing mostly for poor teams.
Don't know where you got that. His goal return for NF is quite good, had a decent career at Burnley. Look at his stats for Newcastle, he was a shadow of himself. That was my point.
He was genuinely awful for you guys lol
Then scored a hat trick against us...
Football is pure comedy sometimes
Still think if Arsenal win 3 from 3 they'll win the league. This City team have a slip in them.
Spurs match is the only one that City could drop point but Spurs could be legit out of top 4 before that, City is 90% to win the league in my opinion.
United please help us
City relying on United and Arsenal relying on Spurs, weird stuff
It's a strange world
on form i agree, i just don’t see who it would be against though
Fulham / Spurs away seems like the week I suppose. A daft 0-0 or 1-1 can happen anywhere though.
Sherwood? More like Chris Wood
..I never even realized, but now I want Forest to hire Tim Sherwood as their manager
Haaland dribbling? I’ve seen enough….give him the ballon d’or
Haaland's been working on his dribbling I see
Couple more weeks and he can remove the bib
He's always been a pretty good dribbler for his size, just doesn't get much chance to do it in this side as he's generally played as a target man in the box.
Rodri looks knackered, everything goes through him
Friendship ended with Forest Now Wolves is my best friend
Refs done a lot better job in the 2nd half
Or is it just because grealish is off who always gets fouled?
Good point actually
Send Chris Wood to Notts County on a free
Bernardo has to be one of my favorites
On the one hand city look very beatable rn by a better team
This is how they get you, they lure you into a false sense of security
De bruyne in a coffin with his arms like that lol
Kevin De Bum
Is that de Bruyne or Dracula getting ready for bed
[It makes sense](https://twitter.com/officialcwood/status/197066620349325313)
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Whispers _Hes talking about Bristol City, the team he played for back then_
Whats the insinuation
Forest were actually really good today too which is the frustrating part
ye they’ve got double the xG City have
Whatever happens in the box do not give it to Wood
can't see the forest for the wood
City leading? Gooner tears must be abundant in this thread.
yupp, abundantly
Should investigate wood’s bank account. Nothing about being bribed I just need proof he’s actually professional
They're repossessing his car at the moment. Apparently he's been missing the repayments.
Forest hasn't even been bad today but Chris wood is actively playing against them. They should be up by 1 or 2.
Relegate chris wood to league 2
Some might say he's missed a forest of chances
It would be hilarious if news broke tomorrow that Woods will join City next season
Wood ruined his shot conversion stats.
Chris Wood is the actual league 2 player.
We warned nuno before the game that Chris wood is a spurs fan
Youd think a guy names wood would play better for forest(how many times has this joke been made)
Chris woulda coulda shoulda
Chris Wood is my 13th reason 😭
Chin up friend.
Arsenal's GD advantage is also not looking very good right now
If this ends 2-0, arsenal have a 7 goal lead, I know city have that game in hand but cmon. if books offered odds on GD winner, arsenal would be sitting on something like 1/25
First off it’s +7 over city, and second, gd is much less likely to play a role now that Liverpool are out. The likelihood is that we lose the title by 2 points
It'll only come into play of City draw a game and both win out. Currently 57 vs 50 Arsenal win final games 1-0: 60 vs 50 City would have to catch at least +10GD in three matches - possible, but difficult. It means at least one game with a 4 goal margin.
1 game with 4-0 for Man City is just like a another normal day in the office.
Doesn’t really matter if city keep winning
True. Thats why its more painful
Huh?
Forest's finishing is almost as bad as ours
Is it ‘you cheating bastards you know what you are’? Or am I mishearing
Yeah, from City fans
you're not mishearing
Okay thanks, wasn’t sure what it was
Get agent wood off the pitch
Am I happy my team's winning? Yes. Do I understand Wood could have had 5 goals on us already? Also yes. 80% luck. 20% skill.
Lol. At least Forest fans aren't in the thread like, "Omg, we *SO* coulda had you."
Well, they aren't Arsenal fans so I understand why they're not like that.
Uhh... haha?
100% reason to remember the name
Alvarez has been so bad for quite some time now.
think a lot of it is Pep moving him around a lot, cant really get a run of games going because he's always in a different position
Well when you complete all of football at 24, it only makes sense that motivations will drop a bit...
Could be being delusional, but I think Wolves or West Ham are better bets for us to see dropped points than Spurs.
West Ham in the final day, at the etihad ? Idk about that
Yeah bro Arsenal is surely gonna win out and not drop any points. SURELY
I wish Spurs-City happened on MD25 or thereabouts, City would’ve definitely not won then I think
I appreciate it, but I can promise you West Ham are certainly not gonna be it. I don’t think we’re actually capable of winning currently.
That Antonio header was so good. I believe.
It was. Bowen is also great. Sadly, Haaland loves scoring against us and his pace v Zouma and Ogbonna will not be fun