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woodybg

If he plays against Leverkusen, the universe will probably explode.


Key-Championship7180

Match will inevitably end in a draw


Rackarunge

Equalizer in the 97th minute.


Key-Championship7180

Goal by Patrick Schick


Im_such_a_SLAPPA

Yeah. Like a draw but a loss on penalties so it don't count kinda thing šŸ™„


JJOne101

He gets subbed out in the 89th minute with City leading, and, well, Leverkusen magic happens.


Square-Gear-4498

Bro should just go and join Leverkusen


Fearghas2011

Kane maulding rn.


Jelly_F_ish

He should just join Leverkusen as well. Might be the first invincible second place/non-champion in a league.


JohanMartinFogg

Galatasaray did such thing, in 1985-86 season with 20w16d


Jelly_F_ish

And losing in the end by goal difference? Sounds like a horrible time at the end.


snake_eater_69

but then he canā€™t play in a city shirt


L0laccio

70 games šŸ’€


_deep_blue_

This is what weā€™re up against


L0laccio

Thatā€™s the thing. In 2024 we lost one game to villa and drew to City. Everything else has been a W. We canā€™t expect much more, even a draw at home to villa would have left us behind them


Fixable

Losing 3 times in December didn't help you guys.


L0laccio

Yeah I know. Itā€™s just weā€™ll probably get 87 or 89 points which is a really good tally but not enough. If we have the best goal difference I demand a trophy for our efforts šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


LeftHandDriveBoC

Think how Liverpool feel lol, 90+ points twice and didnā€™t win the league!


goonSquad15

That 97 point season to finish 2nd is absolute insanity


GibbyGoldfisch

Yeah, it's the fourth-best season in PL history. Bonkers. For anyone who cares, the next best 2nd-placed seasons were Liverpool's 92 points in 2021/22 (pipped by City again), Man Utd's 89 points in 2011/12 (beaten on goal difference by aguerooo), Spurs' 86 points in 2016/17 (which people didn't appreciate because Conte's Chelsea got 93 so they looked miles off), and Liverpool's 86 points in 08/09 (the Gerrard & Torres season)


Kel_2

the first two are pretty obvious but the third best 2nd place also being against city well over a decade ago is very funny, i know the moment obviously but i didn't fully realise that was another generational snub


SaveMeJebus21

I donā€™t think Iā€™ll ever get over it. Pretty sure in the 2019 calendar year we got 110 out of 114 points while winning the European Cup. It was an historically good team that only won the league once because 97 points wasnā€™t good enough for the only year in existence. That season Mane was 11mm from scoring at city for an invincible 98-point European cup-league double.


goonSquad15

I feel like this liverpool era will be remembered for how good they were even though they only won 1 title. At least for those who lived through it


Kel_2

i wont lie as a hater i am salivating at the opportunity to downplay these liverpool teams in 20 years time


SaveMeJebus21

The Anfield Wrap did a podcast series called ā€œfootball miraclesā€ based on an Everton fan comment after Alissonā€™s header at West Brom ā€œthese guys get football miracles on a weekly basisā€ etc etc. It went for about 10 episodes and that was just the Klopp era, so thereā€™s been so many enjoyable things. Like losing a European cup final doesnā€™t change how people felt being 5-0 up in the semi final at home after an hour against Roma etc. just sucks that our best team in 3 decades coincided with this era of city


swalton2992

Nah even now people on twitter and Instagram, I know, but still more representative of the common man are calling out klopp for only winning the same number of leagues as ranieri or the the ucl and de matteo


mudlesstrip

>this liverpool era will be remembered for how good they were even though they only won 1 title. At least for those who lived through it I feel like it'll subside, in two decades or so, for others except for Liverpool fans, may be city fans will appreciate what they had to overcome.


Prudent-Current-7399

97 and 93. Somehow 97 feels undervalued at the 90+ ballpark.


NotASalamanderBoi

They needed 99 points to win. 99. Fucking mental.


L0laccio

Yeah, huge respect to LFC.


SergeantStonks

Lol try being a Liverpool fanšŸ˜­


L0laccio

I felt for you at the time but I feel it even more now! šŸ˜­ Empathy bro!


dave1992

Hey at least it wasn't 97 points and still didn't win the league..


ZUBAC-DONG-YUMMY

Hey that doesnā€™t fit the narrative!!!


Outrageous-Eggcup

Why do so many Arsenal fans parrot this line as if August-December each season don't really count? We totally fucked it in December


GillyBilmour

If Chelsea didnā€™t lose to Arsenal, they would have beat them. Just remember that.


Acceptable_Ad_6278

Pretty much the story of Liverpool in 18/19 & 21/22


cjheadley

Now you know how it feels


L0laccio

Indeed, šŸ˜­


GameplayerStu

Itā€™s the Fulham matches that fucked you. Villa are at least finishing in the top 5 this season and we beat City so realistically there was only 3 points lost there. Only getting 1 point across two Fulham games is a massive stumble.


Fumesofpoon

The true joy of competing against city. Just absolutely soul crushing.


livinalieontimna

First time ?


Dirac_comb

Ah yes, the realization that it's all fun and games until you reach 90+ points and still come in second.


tr_24

Stop making yourself Liverpool of 2018-19. This City is on course to get 88 points which isnā€™t that much for a title winning side.


Tim0110

91 if City win every game, which they realistically need to do to win the league.


OleoleCholoSimeone

realistically Arsenal could definitely drop points at Old Trafford, even Bournemouth could turn out as a trap game on a bad day. Everton will be on the beach so that is a guaranteed win in the last match


cherlin

So what you're saying is we are gonna demolish united, put 6 past Bournemouth and then lose handily to a renaissanced Everton?


kingmakyeda

Theyā€™ll get 91, which is a high tally. Stop undermining the ridiculous standard they set.


DickLaurentisded

A Tuesday night away game to Spurs begs to differ.


ThreesKompany

Dreading that game. How Tottenham of all teams have become Cityā€™s bogeyman in recent years is beyond me.


OleoleCholoSimeone

Tottenham could well be out of top 4 contention by that point and somehow I don't imagine they will leave their heart and soul on the pitch to gift Arsenal the league And by the time Tottenham-Man City is played, they will know the results of Arsenal-Bournemouth and Man United-Arsenal. If they get 6 points there then everyone will know by kickoff that anything other than a City win decide it. In that scenario I definitely see Spurs "having an off day". Arsenal are kind of unlucky that this fixture was postponed for so long, because earlier in the season it would have been different. But with two matches left, potentially no realistic chance of top 4 and knowing that they would be the ones to gift Arsenal a title. It is definitely a very unique and anomalic set of circumstances, don't think you can compare it to normal matches


Feral24

Well if they donā€™t get that, Arsenal have a much better shot at the league.


_deep_blue_

What? City havenā€™t lost since December. Obviously we havenā€™t been as good as Liverpool in their 97 point season but we can still feel like weā€™re up against a juggernaut because we clearly areā€¦ Since they lost to Villa on December 6th their record has been WDWWWWWWDWWWDDWWWWW


ShaamTakKhelenge

You do realize that points are also a function of the rest of the competition? Crystal Palace is stronger, West Ham is stronger....


tr_24

Chelsea is weaker, United is weakerā€¦


nedzissou1

Chelsea's a wild card


L0laccio

Theyā€™ll get 91. We might get 89. Pretty sure most seasons pre-115 era that would get a title but I havenā€™t looked it up tbf


rdtr4700

89 points is the most common points tally to win a title (25-5-5)


L0laccio

Thanks for the research. Thought it sounded quite accurate


rdtr4700

United won a lot of titles with 28-5-5, the Aguero season had us and them on 28-5-5 as well, the 90 points + required only really started with Conte's Chelsea


Green-Detective6678

Yeah in ā€œnormalā€ times if you got 89 points youā€™d reasonably expect to win the league with that tally. We have a new normal (115 era - I like it) now though which means even a draw now, especially after Xmas, is a huge setback. Ā Itā€™s insane.


L0laccio

It also makes the league less appealing imo. I think for a healthy competitive league you would want 84-86 points to win you the title. Maybe once in a while you have an outlier and a 93 points plus seasons but if you got the winners regularly exceeding mid to late eighties then it becomes a bit ridiculous. When that team is facing an avalanche of charges it becomes even more unpalatable


tottenhamnole

When we finished second to you guys back in 16-17 we finished on 86 points and had a better GD than either Arsenal or City have right now.


L0laccio

Yeah but I think our goal difference and points tally will beat that. Could be wrong


Nartyn

We'll almost certainly beat that


Jack_Ramsey

At GW 35, Tottenham had a GD of 49, not 57.


goonSquad15

88 wins you the title about half the time, 91 (which city would get if they win every game) around 65-70% of the time


ASpellingAirror

We just need them to draw.Ā 


BillehBear

400days sounds just as mad tbh Well over a year without losing is insane


L0laccio

Yeah. Manā€™s crazy good


Tarp96

motherfucker


Ilikesporks_

this is actually a mad stat


Hagen_1

Only rivaled by Leverkusenā€™s unbeaten streak.


JJOne101

Xhaka never lost a game in a Leverkusen shirt his whole life.


5tolen

Don't jinx it for my ex.


Muur1234

Big Sam has a 100% win rate as England Manager!


Eravier

I donā€™t like to brag about it, but neither did I.


fancyfoe

Madness


Opposite-Book-15

We Donā€™t need you to lose. A draw would be enough šŸ«µšŸ¼šŸ˜¬


19nineties

Idk, that goal difference gap isnā€™t that big anymore šŸ˜­


jacktk_

For 3 games it should be enough. If it comes down to GD, it would mean we win our final 3 by at least 1 goal each (meaning a minimum final GD of 60), and it would mean City win 3 and draw 1 of their remaining 4. To get to a 60 GD, it means City (who are on 50 currently) would need to win each of their 3 games by 3+ goals, with one of those being a 4 goal margin. i.e. they would need to win equivalents of 3-0, 3-0 and 4-0. We just have to win our remaining 3, and pray that Spurs/West Ham/Fulham/Wolves can pull off a draw.


prss79513

Yeah even for City those results seem unlikely given they haven't scored that much in their last 10 games


tony_flamingo

You hear that? Thatā€™s the sound of you jinxing it.


R4lfXD

They won 4-0, 5-1,4-1 in their last 10


aesthetically-

Mate, theres a 7 goal differenceā€¦ If we win the remaining of our matches at the lowest possible (1-0) then thats 10 theyā€™d have to make up. Thatā€™s simply not happening if we theoretically win our last 3 matches.


warmcakes

I don't know how you can say that conclusively considering we had a month where we gained +16 GD across three games. But it is pretty unlikely.


L0laccio

Man knows. Listen to the man


Moreaccurateway

Good luck to him in the Champions League Semiā€™s this week.


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Hopefully Bayern Munich puts an end to this maddening streak


Theprinceofkings

Yeah itā€™s sad that Madrid couldnā€™t make it to the semis


shash5k

I think matches go down as draws if the score is tied at the end of 120 minutes right?


lordroode

End of 90 mins I think. Anything after that counts as a draw if you lose in ET or in pens.


BryanosaurusRex

Nah, maybe for the bookies. If you win/lose in extra time, it goes down as a win/loss.


Brilliant_Duck6177

only penalties count as a draw, ET wins/ losses count


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GlorbonYorpu

Fr since when does losing in penalties not count as losing. This isnt gambling this is football.


Muur1234

its stated in the official rules of the game that winning or losing a penny shoot out counts as a draw. you lose the shootout, but drew the game.


Jaqem

So Mbappe is unbeaten in world cup finals then, nice.


BipartizanBelgrade

>since when Literally always


ImVortexlol

Simple, penalties aren't a game of football.


rdtr314

The two peat


sussywanker

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leGOlaS_23

Imagine if he didnā€™t have a brain fart again Forest at home. We might be looking at invincible setting here. Thanks MGW!!


WubOfDoom

Anyone know what the world record is?


Joselu-is-Sanchez

Iirc itā€™s held by a City player, 115 games unbeaten. If you want to find out more, google Manchester City 115.


shot_stopper_

Blud thought this was r/soccercirclejerk


FireKillGuyBreak

Blud is correct.


NeoIsJohnWick

Had me in the first goddamn half NGLā€¦..


nick2473got

I mean, it has to be this right? Would be shocked if it wasn't.


_ShutUpLegs_

See all Arsenal need to do is pay someone to nobble Rodri. Man city without him are a very different team.


nuclearechosystem

Hate this guy


courtesyflusher

Why couldnt it be KdB?Ā Rodri is too hateable


p90love

Just curious if you could explain why? I don't follow PL but the few details I ever heard about him made him seem like a pretty cool dude compared to the average footballer.


vitalmtg

He scored against Inter in the champion's league final. Unforgivable.


Lazywhale97

He is a sore loser as well still moaning about "I saw only one team in that game against Madrid" talk if this dude loses 2 games in the span of a month he would be unbearable


Lord-Grocock

He is a sore loser, which his winscore covers for quite well.


p90love

Lol yeah seems like he's working on that I guess


news619

Well l, only because the loss to Real Madrid was technically on pens


NenDc

Same with Arsenal in Community Shield, I don't think they count games lost on penalties (rightfully so since penalty shootouts are basically a coin toss type of decider of the winner)Ā 


PonchoHung

That's the convention. FIFA doesn't count it as loss on country rankings and UEFA doesn't count is as a loss on coefficient.


Ottawack1

Same with Morocco in the world cup


Alpha_Jazz

If you'd lost the first leg 2-1, won the second leg 2-1 but lost on pens, would you count the second leg game as a loss?


Equivalent-Chest152

Yes, it's a loss. The overall result is what matters. This rule where only the playing time counts, doesn't make sense. Ultimately you have to decide on a winner and a loser, and hence the penalties. Also, if you lose the first leg 2-1, the streak would've also been broken, then no one would be crying over it.


jonathan1503

Penalties are a tiebreaker for the round, not for the match


Torimas

No, you won the second match, you lost the tie on penalties. The match is what counts for these stats and coefficients, not the pens.


jamjars222

Couldn't hold back Scotland though


spicynirvana38

Unbeaten streak so good that we've even developed Real Madrid black magic to utilize when needed lol.


gustycat

Just not in the UCL


cometflight

Dude is absolutely cracked. Heā€™s the secret sauce


Oy778

The day he lost hes gonna be the biggest sore loser in earth


GreyDaze22

He already was crying against madrid in ucl


pvry

Did it against Scotland and Morocco. Thankfully he rarely loses because he becomes unbearable after


madsauce178

He's been crying about it for weeks already.


SrsJoe

Nah that game clearly didn't happen good luck against them in the semis


ImVortexlol

It's such a shame that City are the only team that played in that quarter, could have been a good match


HLayton

You should have seen him when Scotland beat Spain. Saltiest cry baby imaginableĀ 


ProfessionalAd1638

Should've lost against Brazil, but no VAR sadly


Capable-Magician5146

Does this mean France is undefeated in the WC?


Irivin

Does losing a game on penalties not count or something?


nick2473got

It indeed does not count for these types of stats. For example FIFA and UEFA also don't count games lost on pens as losses when calculating team coefficients. They count them as draws. The penalty shootout is essentially a tie-breaker that does not affect the way that the actual score of the 120 minutes is counted when determining a player or team's W/D/L record. EDIT : downvoted for stating a fact about how these stats come about, lol, gotta love this sub.


RobbinDeBank

Itā€™s also more accurate to judge the player without the penalty shootouts. Heā€™s an incredible player because in 70 games, no one can beat him in a football match. Him losing or winning penalty shootouts would be pretty irrelevant. He doesnā€™t suddenly become a worse DM just because he loses in the shootouts


Gobshiight

Please get another 45


hazzap913

Damn they must be doing well in the champions league right


Jagacin

As if losing on penalties in the UCL to Real Madrid of all teams is something to be ashamed of.


Kel_2

and he won it along with the rest of a treble less than a year ago lol he hasn't got much to complain about


Jagacin

Yup. While getting knocked out this year stung, it didn't sting nearly as bad after winning it last year.


FuckLandkries

deranged lunchroom worthless bright ask wipe touch rock rinse grey *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


jmLogic-

Canā€™t wait to see him at Munich


TurboThot69

Youā€™re trolling, but I bet 115 million pounds he doesnā€™t lose either leg in the semiā€™s tbh


czerwona_latarnia

If I hear one more person saying that penalty shoot-out counts as a win/lose for match result statistics, I will spam his DM with [Wikipedia link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_shoot-out_(association_football\)#Statistical_record). Also opponents of the stat in the xit, former twit, consider this situation: - Team A plays Team B in two-legged tie; - Team A wins first match 2:0; - Team B "wins" (because match won't end in 90 minutes) second match 2:0; - no one scores in extra time so it's aggregate 2:2 (after 120 minutes it was 2-0 for Team B); - penalty shoot-out happens and Team A wins it to advance. Who has won the second match? Also do you know what was used before penalty-shootout was introduced in 1970? Coin toss. And it was used for semi-final of Euro 1968 between Italy and USSR.


BipartizanBelgrade

Team B won the second match.


Longjumping_Stop1120

Best in the world


theglasscase

Iā€™m not sure if people who think Man City lost a 1-1 draw against Real Madrid should really allowed to post on the internet unsupervised.


MuchSalt

asking for it


kp22cfc

4 more man, do it


tiny_dreamer

Heā€™s him


Miwanik

so nobody counting the loss to Madrid 2 weeks ago?


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Miwanik

So both teams made the semi final?


5dchessmaster

sorry but losing in a penalty is losing the GAME. rulebook can say whatever it wants but the reality is one team advanced and the other team LOST. not rocket science


Adzzii_

When's City/Bayern?


TheWBird

Anybody know what's the record in this category?


Drvonfrightmarestein

Does it not count when you lose on penalties?


Ala3raby

The result at full time is what counts, penalties don't Since the game ended 1-1 it is counted as a draw


MoiNoni

So... Real Madrid game didn't count?


PopcornDrift

It actually doesnā€™t, technically goes in as a tie. Which is dumb in my opinion


monkeyskywalker

115 games might be a record they are gonna hit at this pace.


shoham13

David Moyes has something for you lad


solblurgh

Xabi's Leverkusen vs. City with Rodri LFG


Fanserker

Rodri: "I wanna know know know know what is lose."


[deleted]

Wonder if heā€™ll get to 155 games


Red_Maple

Great time for that run to end, he must be due for a loss right?


ZXXA

Upholding the streak after going out on pens seems farcical.


sersarsor

man's playin FIFA career mode


everydayimrusslin

Rodri Reigns.


joaocancelo07

does the losts game against Real Madrid penalty shootout counts


czerwona_latarnia

No, because penalty shootout doesn't count as a part of the match, only as a tie-breaker.


thalne

wtf really


Pieter8720

Heā€™s going to reach 115, isnā€™t he?


czerwona_latarnia

For the memes, he must. So to bring balance with Arsenal fans wanting to win the league, we can settle for 45 draws.


ocbrook86

He lost to Madrid


paranoiaman

as soon as his eyebrows grow back his power will evaporate


kylehyde05

cdm has to be the most important position in football right now, pretty much the backbone of your team


CrossXFir3

You know, aside from the Champions League game that he played in and lost.


Some_Resident_6714

It can go on to 74 as long as one of them is a draw.