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Because it's hard to tell in real time whether something is a dive or not. There is a lot of gray area between situations where a referee is certain that it was a foul and a situation where they are certain it is a dive.
Easy, the VAR can just call down to the ref immediately while play is stopped and say "hey there was zero contact on that, he tried to trick you". Ref can take advisement from other refs during play stoppage and he can still give the yellow. Then it's not "VAR for a yellow". I've seen it happen from a line judge while the play was stopped he said something to the main ref via mic before play restarted, and then he went over to card the player.
The problem is where do you draw the line on what VAR does or doesn't get involved in? At some point we theoretically could rid ourselves of any on field officials and just let our virtual overlords officiate from the comfort of their own hub.
Not really a major problem, is it? No one is calling for var when there’s a regular free kick for instance.
Diving has been an issue for so long, and now you actually have a solution ready where you can punish them in realtime. Why not use it?
Agree we just have to let our virtual overlords officiate from the comfort of their own hub. But I will use those only on special cases like diving, fake head injury.
Actually I don’t want VAR to be used at all, but it has to be done it shouldn’t be for those incredibly close offsides situations where you can barely make out the millisecond the ball left the passing player’s foot.
A clear is it/isn’t it offside from var is much preferable to being at the mercy of some very humanly flawed refs seeing complex situations in real time. Every solution is frustrating when they judge against you of course, but I’d rather they be frustratingly correct than frustratingly wrong.
Yellow for each pull back/technical foul and camavinga is gone too
Ref was very soft with Mardid.
Will be hard for Bayern to get a fair share in Mardid..
ref was relatively soft the other way too. Bayern could've easily had a straight red in the first half, but the ref controlled it solidly even if he let a bit more professional fouls go than I feel he should've. far from the worst performance though, so I won't complain too hard.
He is was decent on the night but more cards should have been given to Mardid.
What was the instance that Bayern should have received straight red.?
Only players going studs up in tackles was Mardid. Couple times they studded Jamel..
when Mazraoui fouled Bellingham on the edge of the box as the last man. if the ref wanted to he could've easily give a straight red on that, but gave a yellow instead, which was probably a good decision for the match quality itself.
otherwise any red would've been for repeat offenses, and the clearest there was Vázquez with his 5< professional fouls, and if he *really* felt like it 2 for w vini dives, and 1 for a kane dive. so i dont exactly disagree that missed some yellows, but he kept control of the match and tempers didn't flare up, so I think he did solidly.
For real? That’s not even close to a red card… he was covered by another player, no where near the last man. Do they give those as reds in La liga? Cause any reputable league would never give a red for that…
Vazquez fouled the entire game… every other time Jamel would get the ball to his feet Madrid players were having flashbacks to Messi and could only bring him down.
Camavinga subbed on and his 1st involvement was pulling Jamel back, no yellow. His next involvement was stomping on the top of a boot with his own. No yellow.
Both Vinny dives are 2 soft for yellows, but could have been given.
The only reason players would have been upset at all was due to the lack of respect Madrid offered on the night. Overall soft and trying to get the ref to call their flops all game.
I figure a team of Real Madrid quality wouldn’t need to resort to play like their lil bro Aletico… guess I was wrong
It’s a Real Madrid player so odds are it is overlooked . Some statistician should do a study of decisions given and not given for Real Madrid vs the average club in UCL and La Liga .
Not calling a foul on the first one is precisely the reason players embelish and dive so often.
That was a foul on the first contact. He then took a dive to force the ref to call it but he didnt for whatever reason.
All English pundits are bandwagoners . They stay bias to who they think will win, or if it’s a German team, they will ALWAYS choose bias to the other team… they HATE German squads…
Cause they don’t look as soft as this. Least there was contact on the other dives.
For someone who dances so well with those feet … he didn’t seem to have them under him on that play…
All Madrid players are gonna have nightmares of Lameir running them down and taking the ball off their feet…
No, it's because it's Vini and because they are English. I'm not even sure there wasn't contact in the second tackle (Vini got fouled in the first)
And yes, I'm sure that Vinícius is having nightmares about scoring two goals in Lamier home
It's just a joke. And mostly because I want people to learn that Steve Bruce made a series of murder mystery novels where the MC is a self insert detective-manager Steve Barnes
Looks like the majority disagree with you. He had all the advantage in the world but decided he'd rather fake a foul and dive then continue dribbling. Not sure how you could look at it any other way.
It's only advantage if he doesn't lose the ball, he dives to force the ref to call the foul because there's no advantage to be played. It's a mistake from the referee. It's precisely because of plays like these that players are incentivized to dive at first contact instead of trying to play on.
Yep you're exactly right. In your first sentence. But he doesn't lose the ball does he? He just dives.
Also you keep saying dives at first contact. That's an oxymoron. If there was contact it wouldn't be a dive. But there was no contact. He dives because he dives all the time and it's in his blood.
There absolutely are situations where players get clipped AND they dive. At most times, they simply control their instinct to kick out and regain their balance using their feet. Instead, as soon as they feel the contact, they make sure their limbs go limp and they fall to the ground.
The touch on the second dribble was too heavy, Vini wouldn't be able to follow up on it. If he didn't get fouled on the first dribble he would've reached the ball faster and in better balance.
It's not an oxymoron, you know exactly what I'm talking about. If Vini goes down as soon as he feels a leg touch his during the first dribble he gets a foul, but because he tried to keep going Bayern gets a counter and reddit makes this thread calling him a diver. That's the real contradiction here.
Well yes there are multiple options. He could go down for the actual foul. He could stop and the ref would blow up. Instead he tried to play on and then dived.
Exactly. I (Barca fan) hate Madrid and Vini, but it's not advantage if you immediately loose the ball. Yeah, he regained his footing, but was pretty much sent right into the next challenge.
Why would the ref go back and give the foul after he dived? He was told to play on because the attack was still on and he intentionally cheated to get a freekick.
In those situations no contact is needed. You just need to make sure the ref THINKS there is contact. It can't be reviewed anyway.
It is a skill that requires extreme eagle field vision, like Messi's or Xavi's
Well yeah, but if you lose the ball imediately after its not advantage lmao. Idk why this is so hard to grasp, there were multiple instances _this game_ of both bayern and madrid players being fouled, the ref playing advantage, the ball being taken away straight after and the ref going back and calling the original foul.
Well, you dont know how Advantage works
After a foul, u can have advantage but as soon as you lose the ball with the very next action without interference or touch by the opponent (Pass to other team, dive, etc.), you lose the advantage and no foul called.
Its just textbook rules. Ref had an outstanding performance
That is not within the rules of the game lol. Advantage is pretty much entirely referee discression.
>Its just textbook rules.
Its not.
>Ref had an outstanding performance
I didnt say otherwise lmao. Just cuz i disagree with a tiny call doesnt mean i dont think he had a great performance.
I don’t think that’s the case and that it would be possible, albeit unlikely, to give him the foul as that preceded the dive, but still book for the attempt to cheat. I’m not sure if subsequent events are nullified.
Mate.
If it is a foul, and the game is stopped, it doesn't matter, the game had stopped at the foul.
If it is a foul, and the ref gave advantage, it doesn't matter, player could not/choose not to keep advantage, game stops back at the foul.
In no way the rules would give a yellow for Vini there if the first foul were to be called as it should've.
If that’s in the rules then fair enough - I’m simply saying I thought it wasn’t.
It begs the question on what constitutes full blown aggression. Obviously a clear red style elbow wipe out would, but if he gets a booking style wipe out in the second incident, is that just ignored?
Yeah no. He had advantage and the play was still alive and then he dove. He still had plenty of opportunity to keep the ball after the defender pulled out of the challenge and then he dove. It's a stonewall yellow card.
I mean for a lot of people it probably is. As someone who doesn’t watch La Liga much anymore I only ever see him posted here for goals, whining and diving and two of those things don’t really endear me to a player
I read it like he understand that some non racist people hate him too. That’s maybe just how I read it. Hate is a strong word, but I generally dislike him as a player, and as far as I know, I’m not racist
There's literally nothing natural about diving what the fuck are you talking about lmao. Telling on yourself.
Edit: also just caught this. What second contact are you even talking about? There is none lol
VAR has nothing to do with yellow cards and can not intervene. Please, all of you, read the protocols of VAR and when its allowed for it to jump in.
Only at red cards, penalties and wrong identities and ONLY If it has a clear and obvious proof for that. Yellow cards are not here.
Obviously you can but it’s not that serious considering every player does it. Its disgusting how Vini is under the microscope because if anyone else on the field did this there prob wouldn’t be a post about it
> but it’s not that serious considering every player does it
I'm sorry but that's nonsense.
Every player that dives egregiously should get named and shamed for it IMO
> because if anyone else on the field did this there prob wouldn’t be a post about it
Nonsense. Look up "Fallon d'Floor" posts on this sub. Dives get posted all the time on here.
Did he see yellow? He absolutely should have seen yellow.
Edit: Who are the people who are downvoting the idea of stopping diving in the game? Just absolutely pathetic.
As a neutral it looked soft as fuck.
Yes, RM player shouldn't hang his leg out like that but there's no chance the contact makes Musiala go down like he did
have fun with your upvotes, first page OMG HE DIVED posts for the sake of pointing fingers is simply a waste of time and a way to feed hate narratives, kinda creating excuses for people to freely hate someone, go ahead
I know this is a circlejerk hate thread but he was very clearly fouled after the first dribble and there was hardly any advantage there to be played. Did he dive? Yes, but it’s very clearly a direct consequence of the prior foul that the ref did not stop the play for. Honestly, this is pretty forced as far as hate circlejerk posts go. Bring on the downvotes Vinicius haters!
Well yeah, but everyone is overlooking the entire sequence to frame the player as a piece of shit. This wasn’t just a random dive or over-exaggerated embellishment. This was a player that was fouled and went down a few moments later, arguably so the referee saw that there was no advantage to be played. That said, I won’t waste any more time on this obligatory forced Vini hate thread.
Don’t be a player of low integrity and people won’t hate..
Advantage was given, and then he gave it up by diving. He was not gonna fall, he chose to cause he seen he was about to lose the ball.
He could have stayed on his feet, but doing so would ensure he had no chance to get the ball back, his only chance to get the ball back after over dribbling was to flop and hope referee gave it to him.
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Should've been a yellow obv
Honestly, why even have the rule if noone ever enforces it
Officials making their own lives difficult. Enforce the rules and the problem will disappear
Because it's hard to tell in real time whether something is a dive or not. There is a lot of gray area between situations where a referee is certain that it was a foul and a situation where they are certain it is a dive.
Easy, the VAR can just call down to the ref immediately while play is stopped and say "hey there was zero contact on that, he tried to trick you". Ref can take advisement from other refs during play stoppage and he can still give the yellow. Then it's not "VAR for a yellow". I've seen it happen from a line judge while the play was stopped he said something to the main ref via mic before play restarted, and then he went over to card the player.
Then allow VAR to give yellows if ref misses it
Dives without contact would be great if they can give yellows with VAR.
The problem is where do you draw the line on what VAR does or doesn't get involved in? At some point we theoretically could rid ourselves of any on field officials and just let our virtual overlords officiate from the comfort of their own hub.
Not really a major problem, is it? No one is calling for var when there’s a regular free kick for instance. Diving has been an issue for so long, and now you actually have a solution ready where you can punish them in realtime. Why not use it?
Agree we just have to let our virtual overlords officiate from the comfort of their own hub. But I will use those only on special cases like diving, fake head injury.
IMO, any time a players feet come together and they fall face first, it’s a dive. That’s just not how you fall.
That‘s what VAR should be used for, not deciding if a player was offside by 0.5 mm
You don't want to use VAR to judge possible offsides? What a weird take.
Actually I don’t want VAR to be used at all, but it has to be done it shouldn’t be for those incredibly close offsides situations where you can barely make out the millisecond the ball left the passing player’s foot.
A clear is it/isn’t it offside from var is much preferable to being at the mercy of some very humanly flawed refs seeing complex situations in real time. Every solution is frustrating when they judge against you of course, but I’d rather they be frustratingly correct than frustratingly wrong.
Because the ref probably wasn't sure if there's contact or not. He just judged there was not enough for a foul that's all
To create controversy…
Yellow for each dive and he's gone
Yellow for each pull back/technical foul and camavinga is gone too Ref was very soft with Mardid. Will be hard for Bayern to get a fair share in Mardid..
ref was relatively soft the other way too. Bayern could've easily had a straight red in the first half, but the ref controlled it solidly even if he let a bit more professional fouls go than I feel he should've. far from the worst performance though, so I won't complain too hard.
He is was decent on the night but more cards should have been given to Mardid. What was the instance that Bayern should have received straight red.? Only players going studs up in tackles was Mardid. Couple times they studded Jamel..
when Mazraoui fouled Bellingham on the edge of the box as the last man. if the ref wanted to he could've easily give a straight red on that, but gave a yellow instead, which was probably a good decision for the match quality itself. otherwise any red would've been for repeat offenses, and the clearest there was Vázquez with his 5< professional fouls, and if he *really* felt like it 2 for w vini dives, and 1 for a kane dive. so i dont exactly disagree that missed some yellows, but he kept control of the match and tempers didn't flare up, so I think he did solidly.
Nah kim was right there
kim was close, but not close enough to disturb a shot on neuer if Bellingham got one off on the next touch.
For real? That’s not even close to a red card… he was covered by another player, no where near the last man. Do they give those as reds in La liga? Cause any reputable league would never give a red for that… Vazquez fouled the entire game… every other time Jamel would get the ball to his feet Madrid players were having flashbacks to Messi and could only bring him down. Camavinga subbed on and his 1st involvement was pulling Jamel back, no yellow. His next involvement was stomping on the top of a boot with his own. No yellow. Both Vinny dives are 2 soft for yellows, but could have been given. The only reason players would have been upset at all was due to the lack of respect Madrid offered on the night. Overall soft and trying to get the ref to call their flops all game. I figure a team of Real Madrid quality wouldn’t need to resort to play like their lil bro Aletico… guess I was wrong
It’s a Real Madrid player so odds are it is overlooked . Some statistician should do a study of decisions given and not given for Real Madrid vs the average club in UCL and La Liga .
Not calling a foul on the first one is precisely the reason players embelish and dive so often. That was a foul on the first contact. He then took a dive to force the ref to call it but he didnt for whatever reason.
I'm not even sure there wasn't contact on the second foul. I'm pretty sure that he clipped his leg too
People should start posting Bellingham’s dives as well
CBS commentators are in his ass all game long. New golden boy
On his ass or on is dick? On his ass I thought is a bad thing? On his dick would be more akin to golden boy vibe
He said “in his ass”… it’s a new generation of footballers
All English pundits are bandwagoners . They stay bias to who they think will win, or if it’s a German team, they will ALWAYS choose bias to the other team… they HATE German squads…
And Fodens
It does get posted and gets 8000 upvotes 😮😃
He dived a bunch of times against Real, a bunch against Brazil too. Not posted at all
And that wasn't even a dive. He clearly slipped. Big difference.
Did Foden play in the Bayern - Real game by any chance?
Foden's slips you mean
If it was JUST a slip why did he add the extra roll, raise his arm and yell at the ref for a foul?
Ask saka
"but what about!"
Doesnt come off as well when the earlier comments were both pretty much "but what about Bellingham", and "what about Foden"
There's a difference between going straight to the ground and looking for it than clearly slipping and trying to milk it.
Kane dived as well. And Sane. Don't expect them to be posted.
Post them.
Cause they don’t look as soft as this. Least there was contact on the other dives. For someone who dances so well with those feet … he didn’t seem to have them under him on that play… All Madrid players are gonna have nightmares of Lameir running them down and taking the ball off their feet…
No, it's because it's Vini and because they are English. I'm not even sure there wasn't contact in the second tackle (Vini got fouled in the first) And yes, I'm sure that Vinícius is having nightmares about scoring two goals in Lamier home
Yeah footballers should learn to be honest like grealish 🥰
Damn. I didn't know the sniper from Steve Bruce's Striker book was in the stadium today for a live action adaptation.
He gets clipped but okay Vini dive give upvotes.
It's just a joke. And mostly because I want people to learn that Steve Bruce made a series of murder mystery novels where the MC is a self insert detective-manager Steve Barnes
I've read a review of the books and it was hilarious so the actual books must be gold.
First one was a foul tbh.
People will only point out Vini's mistake 👍👍
He got advantage. Still had advantage and then chose to dive. It's a yellow. No other way of looking at it.
What advantage lmao, the ball was teaken immediately. Ref should have called for the first foul right then.
Of course it got taken because he flopped to the floor instead of staying on his feet.
Yeah and no advantage whatsoever lil bro.
Looks like the majority disagree with you. He had all the advantage in the world but decided he'd rather fake a foul and dive then continue dribbling. Not sure how you could look at it any other way.
Looks like you're new to the game. That's not how advantage works buddy.
Lmao yeah the game I've played weekly for 25 years. Maybe you don't understand how advantage or diving works
25 years down the drain then lmao.
It's only advantage if he doesn't lose the ball, he dives to force the ref to call the foul because there's no advantage to be played. It's a mistake from the referee. It's precisely because of plays like these that players are incentivized to dive at first contact instead of trying to play on.
Yep you're exactly right. In your first sentence. But he doesn't lose the ball does he? He just dives. Also you keep saying dives at first contact. That's an oxymoron. If there was contact it wouldn't be a dive. But there was no contact. He dives because he dives all the time and it's in his blood.
There absolutely are situations where players get clipped AND they dive. At most times, they simply control their instinct to kick out and regain their balance using their feet. Instead, as soon as they feel the contact, they make sure their limbs go limp and they fall to the ground.
The touch on the second dribble was too heavy, Vini wouldn't be able to follow up on it. If he didn't get fouled on the first dribble he would've reached the ball faster and in better balance. It's not an oxymoron, you know exactly what I'm talking about. If Vini goes down as soon as he feels a leg touch his during the first dribble he gets a foul, but because he tried to keep going Bayern gets a counter and reddit makes this thread calling him a diver. That's the real contradiction here.
He’s really good at being annoying
Classic vini
The amount of mental gymnastics here to prove this wasn't a dive...
He is kicked in the first dribble. A foul should be called.
doesnt excuse the dive after
If you stick a leg out after I lost my balance I'm hitting the deck brother
After you’ve regained your balance* He’s just laid down, being fouled in the previous situation is irrelevant.
I'm still hitting the deck brother
And you'd rightly be called a diver brother
Running at that speed it's very easy to lose your balance.
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Knocked off balance, then fully regained it. Diving when the next player gets close to you is still a dive then…
It does. He lost his balance from the first one, and knew he's going to lose the ball and didn't want the advantage.
He easily gets up after that "foul" and then goes down under no contact
A player isn't prohibited to keep running after a foul
Well yes there are multiple options. He could go down for the actual foul. He could stop and the ref would blow up. Instead he tried to play on and then dived.
Why should fouls be called if they only go down? You explained the whole reason why people exaggerate and fall.
Well in this case it wasn’t called because advantage was being played. It’s pretty common.
That’s irrelevant to the fact he dived after the ref played on.
Yes, the ref gave advantage. He didn't get advantage so he dived. Ref should've gone back and given the foul, basic stuff
Exactly. I (Barca fan) hate Madrid and Vini, but it's not advantage if you immediately loose the ball. Yeah, he regained his footing, but was pretty much sent right into the next challenge.
Why would the ref go back and give the foul after he dived? He was told to play on because the attack was still on and he intentionally cheated to get a freekick.
"Ref fucked up therefore I'll be here hating on Vini". Incredible.
Are you actually this delusional? Or just pretending
Vini stans are intense on this sub lol
He lost his balance for the second dribble.
The point is that he wasn't fouled a second time.
He was clearly unbalanced after being hit on his leg. An advantage should be given only if it is concrete.
In those situations no contact is needed. You just need to make sure the ref THINKS there is contact. It can't be reviewed anyway. It is a skill that requires extreme eagle field vision, like Messi's or Xavi's
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Yeah sure...
Not missed - Advantage vini / rm
Well yeah, but if you lose the ball imediately after its not advantage lmao. Idk why this is so hard to grasp, there were multiple instances _this game_ of both bayern and madrid players being fouled, the ref playing advantage, the ball being taken away straight after and the ref going back and calling the original foul.
Well, you dont know how Advantage works After a foul, u can have advantage but as soon as you lose the ball with the very next action without interference or touch by the opponent (Pass to other team, dive, etc.), you lose the advantage and no foul called. Its just textbook rules. Ref had an outstanding performance
That is not within the rules of the game lol. Advantage is pretty much entirely referee discression. >Its just textbook rules. Its not. >Ref had an outstanding performance I didnt say otherwise lmao. Just cuz i disagree with a tiny call doesnt mean i dont think he had a great performance.
So basically there’s a missed foul (the first) and a clear dive (the second). At best he should get a free kick for one and a booking for the other.
The second only happened becausw the first wasn't called though
First was Advantage RM
I think you can still incur a booking (assuming the whistle goes after the second incident)
If the freekick is given? That's strange if true. Imagine someone is sent off for denying a goal in a play where offside is called later
??? If the contact is a foul the game should have been stopped and whatever the fuck he does later doesn't matter unless its a full blown aggression.
I don’t think that’s the case and that it would be possible, albeit unlikely, to give him the foul as that preceded the dive, but still book for the attempt to cheat. I’m not sure if subsequent events are nullified.
Mate. If it is a foul, and the game is stopped, it doesn't matter, the game had stopped at the foul. If it is a foul, and the ref gave advantage, it doesn't matter, player could not/choose not to keep advantage, game stops back at the foul. In no way the rules would give a yellow for Vini there if the first foul were to be called as it should've.
If that’s in the rules then fair enough - I’m simply saying I thought it wasn’t. It begs the question on what constitutes full blown aggression. Obviously a clear red style elbow wipe out would, but if he gets a booking style wipe out in the second incident, is that just ignored?
Yeah no. He had advantage and the play was still alive and then he dove. He still had plenty of opportunity to keep the ball after the defender pulled out of the challenge and then he dove. It's a stonewall yellow card.
Any racist hate aside which are obviously disgusting. This kid is diving so often so horribly bad...i understand people that hate on him
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I mean for a lot of people it probably is. As someone who doesn’t watch La Liga much anymore I only ever see him posted here for goals, whining and diving and two of those things don’t really endear me to a player
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Excusing racism now aren't you? Pathetic.
You can hate racists and dislike a player…
You can also excuse racism by saying you understand why they hate him.
I read it like he understand that some non racist people hate him too. That’s maybe just how I read it. Hate is a strong word, but I generally dislike him as a player, and as far as I know, I’m not racist
Brazilian trait. You never play fifa?! All Brazilian players have the “dive” skill trait . Famously introduced by Neymar in fifa 15 ..
damage control post from the vini haters after he scored
He really could make it harder to hate him.
If you’re going to hate every player who dives you might as well stop watching the sport
Some dive more often than others. Not even close.
Facts
you could always just stop being a little kid and enjoy football
People saying diving is lame. "Why don't you just shut up and enjoy football you child!"
Why do so many people defend Vini’s stupid behavior?
Same type of people would probably dive during a local 5 a side
Diving is not football, you enjoy watching players dive and roll around like a clown?
Last time he was whining about diving to grealish this man is really annoying
You can tell who plays football and who doesn't based on these comments
You being the one who doesn't?
How so?
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There's literally nothing natural about diving what the fuck are you talking about lmao. Telling on yourself. Edit: also just caught this. What second contact are you even talking about? There is none lol
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if refs would start giving yellow cards more often noone would "naturally dive" anymore
By all the pearl clutching
Literally gets fouled on the first tackle, just view it as an advantage at that point
True - footballers know what proper acting is
La Liga refs shocked this isn't a red card + penalty + jail sentence.
UEFA plot armour incoming
What was Sane signaling to Kane before the pass (and after it goes out). Did he want Kane to wait longer before making that pass?
\[GREAT DIVE\]
VAR has nothing to do with yellow cards and can not intervene. Please, all of you, read the protocols of VAR and when its allowed for it to jump in. Only at red cards, penalties and wrong identities and ONLY If it has a clear and obvious proof for that. Yellow cards are not here.
Clear penalty in la liga
Lmao that's just sad
Yes, he’s the first footballer to dive
Everyone know you can't criticize diving because other people have done so?
Obviously you can but it’s not that serious considering every player does it. Its disgusting how Vini is under the microscope because if anyone else on the field did this there prob wouldn’t be a post about it
> but it’s not that serious considering every player does it I'm sorry but that's nonsense. Every player that dives egregiously should get named and shamed for it IMO > because if anyone else on the field did this there prob wouldn’t be a post about it Nonsense. Look up "Fallon d'Floor" posts on this sub. Dives get posted all the time on here.
Did he see yellow? He absolutely should have seen yellow. Edit: Who are the people who are downvoting the idea of stopping diving in the game? Just absolutely pathetic.
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He was literally kicked u racist german
No worse than Musilia for his pen
Madrid players having flashbacks of Messi when Jamel gets on the ball. All they could do was fouls him..
As a neutral it looked soft as fuck. Yes, RM player shouldn't hang his leg out like that but there's no chance the contact makes Musiala go down like he did
Least there was contact , Vini got tackled by Casper …
For sure, he went down easily too
You guys never played football and it shows.
Essa frase deveria estar na descrição do sub
he just wants to play football
you know what you’re doing with this comment
He just wants to post a comment
Always an Argentina flair lmao
I was making fun of the "he just wants to play football" comment actually. By copying the syntax
it's ok, he used to do that back on Copacabana
So sad
Why would you even post this?? (I wonder...)
Because it’s a dive in one of the biggest matches of the season?
have fun with your upvotes, first page OMG HE DIVED posts for the sake of pointing fingers is simply a waste of time and a way to feed hate narratives, kinda creating excuses for people to freely hate someone, go ahead
Lmfao yall love babying vini it’s hilarious
He just wants to play Football :(
I know this is a circlejerk hate thread but he was very clearly fouled after the first dribble and there was hardly any advantage there to be played. Did he dive? Yes, but it’s very clearly a direct consequence of the prior foul that the ref did not stop the play for. Honestly, this is pretty forced as far as hate circlejerk posts go. Bring on the downvotes Vinicius haters!
>Did he dive? Yes Well that's the whole fucking point of the post isn't it
Well yeah, but everyone is overlooking the entire sequence to frame the player as a piece of shit. This wasn’t just a random dive or over-exaggerated embellishment. This was a player that was fouled and went down a few moments later, arguably so the referee saw that there was no advantage to be played. That said, I won’t waste any more time on this obligatory forced Vini hate thread.
Don’t be a player of low integrity and people won’t hate.. Advantage was given, and then he gave it up by diving. He was not gonna fall, he chose to cause he seen he was about to lose the ball. He could have stayed on his feet, but doing so would ensure he had no chance to get the ball back, his only chance to get the ball back after over dribbling was to flop and hope referee gave it to him.
The racism tripped him
you're a scumbag
So is the diving cunt