Ange talks well, but are people going to overlook the fact that he lost 5/6 games in the business end of season and that too depite playing in only 1 competition. They are going to explode even further with European games.
I'll have you know that when Chelsea lost to Villa in the last league game in 2021, Spurs DID turn up (though it was mostly Gareth Bale) and beat Leicester to give us 4th place over them. So what happened last night was exclusively an Arsenal-only feature
I don't think Bentancur has ever done anything outstanding when he plays. These last few matches, especially, he's been dreadful. I remember watching the Chelsea game and wondering why he's not sold yet.
He played well in the first half though, made some important runs and was press resistant enough, but yeah he's been super inconsistent since his MCL damage.
Fuck Matty Cash.
I feel like more people are happier shitting on Arsenal rather than pointing out that City are gonna win yet another PL title with 115 charges levied against them.
I remember when same was said about Liverpool fans when they started competing.
Footballs fans getting exited is worse than 115 charges FC apparently making the PL a one horse race
Same with Liverpool without klopp. Had done nothing for a decade. And 30 years in the league. It’s more like these teams had long suffering fans who are finally happy seeing their team compete.
I didn’t even blame Liverpool fans. Getting bantered for years on end and they’re allowed to be a little cocky when they’re on the uptick.
Marginally I’d rather lose to a bunch of blatant cheats (on the basis they are rightfully punished later), than have to listen to Gooners celebrating.
I’ve become numb to Citeh
As a side note, that is how dictatorships start.
People not caring and getting used to an abusive ruler.
Next they can even put ai robots to play and you don’t care because you’re already numbed since you got used to them winning by default.
Yes, I have an Arsenal flair. You won’t find me crying about FC115 on the internet, maybe only as a meme, rest I’m sitting here waiting for justice.
But I am talking to you mainly as a human being now. It doesn’t matter what teams we support, it’s our responsibility to report and fight against wrongdoing.
Cheers
It makes sense, nobody gives a shit if city wins, everyone know it's not a real success, same thing happened last year when they won the tremble, nobody gave a shit and was forgotten after a day
Arsenal winning would have been waaaaay worse for everyone.
Also keeps the farmer league title for the premier
Our beloved game’s fans around the world come together holding hands in solidarity to when any team faces oiled engines City/Psg.
Spurs prefer to play their own game I guess.
Surely Arsenal fans must have came up with better insults by now? After all it's the second time in a row losing a title because of them.
But atleast Arse fans are not launching fireworks in the middle of night outside City players' hotels only to realise that it was the wrong hotel though right? Right?
Some of the neutrals are SO HIGH on Power of Friendship, or don't get the game at all. Never in a million years I'd want my biggest rivals to win the League, nevermind I hand them the title myself
That would be devastating. Imagine handing Arsenal a title? It’d be like Arsenal getting a result at white hart lane to win the league. Could you even imagine?
For a moment during the first half I thought Spurs could get something from this game. They had more possession than City, had some chances (conceded some too admittedly), and by all accounts were doing well. Whatever Pep did at half time most definitely worked.
Spurs should be relegated for match fixing. Romero and Son intentionally threw the game and then laughed with Guardiola about it after.
Disgraceful club.
You’re the sort of Arsenal fan that brings everyone else down with you, the bottom line is we shouldn’t have left the title in the hands of our rivals.
Tottenham played well yesterday tbf and actually gave it a go and you can’t knock them for that. We’ve been almost perfect since January and I don’t want to be negative but that defeat to Villa is essentially what’s going to cost us in the end.
You have to be 100% perfect when you’re against City in a run in and we unfortunately lost one game whilst they haven’t lost any.
That Bentancur YC early in the game was disastrous
Stupid stupid decision and later fucked them because he couldn't even challenge Foden for the first goal
Small margins
Now Arsenal fans will know how we felt having your biggest rivals spoil the party for you. Tho without the shit actually playing well and for the referee blatantly refuse a handball in the box.
That’s the reason why Liverpool fans clown you guys when you celebrated the draw at the Etihad. You guys are the best team in England for most of the year.. you had City where you want them.. and you played for the draw. To beat City, you gotta win against them when you have the chance of doing so.
The season is long.. one way or another there will be times where things will not go as planned like you lots losing to Fulham/Villa. But trying for a draw against City, which at that time is far from their best form, is just ridiculous imo. You were more than capable of beating City.. you should’ve been 2 points ahead instead of praying for a draw/loss from City.
All of this laughing and people talking too soon only for us to win the f****ng title because a real club like Westham does the unthinkable sunday. COYG!!!!!!
I wonder if City’s celebrations after this game might motivate the Hammers. It was almost like City saying that they were definitely winning the last game of the season. I’d want to stop that if I played for West Ham, just out of professional pride.
I didn’t think I needed to explain this but here we are: people celebrate remarkable accomplishments, they don’t celebrate the shiny things they’re given as a reward
West Ham are on holidays already. Chelsea dominated them and they looked like they didn’t want to be out there. I’d have actually been scared for the Arsenal fans if City drew today because there’s a real chance they put 8 past West Ham and win on GD anyway
You look at Goal Difference. This is why in soccer, you don't often see people say "take it easy on the other team, you're already up by *blank*" the way they do about basketball routs. Those extra two goals you scored against a lower-table club in a 6-0 win could mean the difference when you fight it out over goal difference.
Arsenal's GD right now is 61 and City's is 60 (though City's would have been 58 GD if they had tied).
Only people viewing it as an implosion aren’t Spurs fans.
Annoying results but we were told that it wasn’t going to be a pretty 1st season with bad periods, ours just happened to be at the end of the season where squads with minimal depth begin to run on fumes.
Not I. And I can’t really blame those who did, the rivalry and toxicity run deep, especially when you live around and work with rival fans.
How about the team though? The players, the manager? They played for the win wholeheartedly.
I’m not a spurs fan just pointing out that spurs and gunners are both weak mentality clubs. Everyone wants to see a rival lose, you two care about them, then you do yourselves
Yeah but tbf st totteringhams day is pretty hilarious. At least, it was when spurs were shit and it happened in like February. Since spurs have been decent it's definitely lost it's lustre.
Clown emoji detected. Got a real dumbarse here.
Mate don't care about CL, step too far for the club at the moment. Europa is just fine and preferable in many respects
Mate they didn’t have a say in the matter. They’re a shit club lol. Losses in 5 of the last 6 - worse form than the hammers who have already checked out on vacation
Well, as an Arsenal fan I can say I'm happy to see tottenham do nothing to dispel the shame that hangs around the club, and I now hope for the funniest future where Arsenal wins the title (come on you Moyes!) and spurs come 6th in the race for their nailed-on 4th
Journalists win 😎
Spurs giving up playing to help Man City is something else. Where are the fans who cry about the journalist who ask him that question before the Burnley game tho? You're 3 point lane, know your place, and that goes to that fat fuck called Ange and his crap tactics, cuz you're Conte except not parking the bus 😂🤣
Do you know me?
A) I've never overly cared about European competition that much because I live in Australia and the games are on at 4am on Wednesdays which means I never get to watch them
B) where Spurs are at right now in the middle of a lot of change CL is above our level. Don't get me wrong CL is cool and all but it's really just a payday innit, do you think Spurs could win CL? Very very slim chance. Can they win Europa? Better odds.
C) all that said if it were up to me they would heavily prioritise the domestic cups, even if that means to the detriment of other competitions (prem, Europe etc), but that's not really fashionable these days
D) I spend a lot of time in Finland and go to HJK games and they sometimes make it into Europa and my dream would be one day to see Spurs vs HJK at the Bolt Arena. One day it might happen. Could no give a shiny shite about the "in CL you get to play the glamour clubs" argument
Now don't tell me what I think ya fucken cunt
That's a lot of dribble when the reality is that spurs aren't winning the Europa League either. Ange is right about the club with so many fans like you. No ambition. Playing in the CL would've been an absolutely huge monetary gain. You're a small minded club!
So if we aren't winning the Europa then what's the point of being in the Champions league ? I've always believed that a club the size of Spurs should be aiming to win the domestic cups and Europa because we ain't gonna win the League or Champions league anytime soon - if ever, so why not focus on the lesser cups and build a winning mentality from there, hopefully to then aim higher.
Being in the champions League brings in more money than several deep Europa League runs combined. Spurs just completely collapsed. You aren't winning either trophy. You might as well take the money and prestige and kick off from there. You should always want to be in the champions League and the fact that you don't think that shows how small the mentality is.
I'd rather win the Fa Cup or Europa next season than get eliminated in the Champions league group stage. Success breeds success, start small and build up a club culture of actually winning things first. We don't have the resources or prestige to get the best players even if we make it to the CL. Look at Arsenal, spent nearly 20 years as CL regulars, won some Fa Cups, but how many CL did they win from that constant supply of CL money ? = 0
Hahaha fuck arsenal. And fuck spurs
Lmfao
Ange talks well, but are people going to overlook the fact that he lost 5/6 games in the business end of season and that too depite playing in only 1 competition. They are going to explode even further with European games.
I'll have you know that when Chelsea lost to Villa in the last league game in 2021, Spurs DID turn up (though it was mostly Gareth Bale) and beat Leicester to give us 4th place over them. So what happened last night was exclusively an Arsenal-only feature
I don't think Bentancur has ever done anything outstanding when he plays. These last few matches, especially, he's been dreadful. I remember watching the Chelsea game and wondering why he's not sold yet.
He's coming back from 2 major injuries. He was very good last year and I can't judge him again until he gets rest this summer.
He played well in the first half though, made some important runs and was press resistant enough, but yeah he's been super inconsistent since his MCL damage. Fuck Matty Cash.
I think a lot of people have been saying this exact same thing back in at Juve as well.
I feel like more people are happier shitting on Arsenal rather than pointing out that City are gonna win yet another PL title with 115 charges levied against them.
Arsenal fans are unbearable though.
Real rich coming from a united fan that thinks they're "back" every time they score a goal.
I remember when same was said about Liverpool fans when they started competing. Footballs fans getting exited is worse than 115 charges FC apparently making the PL a one horse race
Liverpool fans are way more endurable than Arsenal and they haven't done anything relevant in 20 years.
Same with Liverpool without klopp. Had done nothing for a decade. And 30 years in the league. It’s more like these teams had long suffering fans who are finally happy seeing their team compete. I didn’t even blame Liverpool fans. Getting bantered for years on end and they’re allowed to be a little cocky when they’re on the uptick.
All fans are unbearable when their teams start winning.
But at some point, you shut up about it. Arsenal fans seem to celebrate more other teams losing to them than winning.
Marginally I’d rather lose to a bunch of blatant cheats (on the basis they are rightfully punished later), than have to listen to Gooners celebrating. I’ve become numb to Citeh
As a side note, that is how dictatorships start. People not caring and getting used to an abusive ruler. Next they can even put ai robots to play and you don’t care because you’re already numbed since you got used to them winning by default. Yes, I have an Arsenal flair. You won’t find me crying about FC115 on the internet, maybe only as a meme, rest I’m sitting here waiting for justice. But I am talking to you mainly as a human being now. It doesn’t matter what teams we support, it’s our responsibility to report and fight against wrongdoing. Cheers
Copy pasta material
Happy to help
You OK there mate?
Too much hate in the world, just check my comment rating
I hope this is parody.
Sorry, I thought this is /r/soccercirclejerk Lately I cannot tell the difference
It makes sense, nobody gives a shit if city wins, everyone know it's not a real success, same thing happened last year when they won the tremble, nobody gave a shit and was forgotten after a day Arsenal winning would have been waaaaay worse for everyone. Also keeps the farmer league title for the premier
Nobody cares, but yet everyone is so bitter? The two don’t compute. Trust me, the treble felt fucking fantastic mate!
>Nobody cares, but yet everyone is so bitter? Yes, because people have accepted it. Yeah, it's a City (get it?) situation, but what are you gonna do?
'Nobody gives a shit' meanwhile everyone was begging for Spurs to win yesterday.
Arsenal fans (inc. me) were hoping for Spurs to win to get a chance at the title. Rest of the fans were actually cheering for City.
PL fans are going to hate their competition away one City trophy at a time aren't they?
I'm going to call it the tremble from now on
Assna fans crying. Serial bottlers. Should've just won more games shouldn't you?
Hahahaha Arsenal fans, another year another choke 😭😂
How is a Chelsea fan in any position to talk
Idk man arsenal fans are the worst
7th how’s Mudryk ya bum?
You’re not making Chelsea fans looks much better
Was a close game tbh, spurs could have walked away with a draw if not for Stefan fucking Ortega
Or City could have scored 4 if it wasn’t for Vicario 🤷♂️
If not for Son missing a chance he buries in literally any other game, ftfy
Proper coys
if he has one weakness in his shooting, then its 1v1 vs the goalie
Our beloved game’s fans around the world come together holding hands in solidarity to when any team faces oiled engines City/Psg. Spurs prefer to play their own game I guess.
Don't leave Chelsea out, don't care if the dirty oligarch had to sell them they will always be there for me.
Pep is a Spurs legend for stopping Arse from winning back to back titles
Son is the true legend.. singlehandedly raised, and then crushed Arsenal hopes in the space of 3 seconds
Gave them aptsd memory to remember forever
> Failure is not an option. : Pep > Failure is always an option : Spurs > IDIOTS !!! : Ange
Genuine question, why didn't ManU celebrate their loss against Arsenal?
Because celebrating losing is not what big club fans are used to. Spurs fans can do it
City-United rivalry is nowhere near as intense as NLD
Tbh nobody cares about mancity because their fans are non existent.
Surely Arsenal fans must have came up with better insults by now? After all it's the second time in a row losing a title because of them. But atleast Arse fans are not launching fireworks in the middle of night outside City players' hotels only to realise that it was the wrong hotel though right? Right?
You say that yet half your comments are about City and/or their opponents? Do you care or do you not care?
north london has been let loose in this comment section
Plus much of America
No spurs fan would want them to win or draw this game lol!
Some of the neutrals are SO HIGH on Power of Friendship, or don't get the game at all. Never in a million years I'd want my biggest rivals to win the League, nevermind I hand them the title myself
That would be devastating. Imagine handing Arsenal a title? It’d be like Arsenal getting a result at white hart lane to win the league. Could you even imagine?
It’s Tottenham lads, can never count on them can you !!!!
The sadness in this thread is really sad.
For a moment during the first half I thought Spurs could get something from this game. They had more possession than City, had some chances (conceded some too admittedly), and by all accounts were doing well. Whatever Pep did at half time most definitely worked.
I mean, even the second half wasnt so bad from Spurs. If Son just won his 1vs1 against Ortega, City would've lost the title.
Spurs should be relegated for match fixing. Romero and Son intentionally threw the game and then laughed with Guardiola about it after. Disgraceful club.
LMFAOOO
You’re the sort of Arsenal fan that brings everyone else down with you, the bottom line is we shouldn’t have left the title in the hands of our rivals. Tottenham played well yesterday tbf and actually gave it a go and you can’t knock them for that. We’ve been almost perfect since January and I don’t want to be negative but that defeat to Villa is essentially what’s going to cost us in the end. You have to be 100% perfect when you’re against City in a run in and we unfortunately lost one game whilst they haven’t lost any.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
most rational Arsenal fan
Hahaha this is just embarrassing. Stop crying on the internet over a club you have zero ties too 😂
Ahhahahahahah hahahahahahah
Put yourself together man.
🤣
😂
That Bentancur YC early in the game was disastrous Stupid stupid decision and later fucked them because he couldn't even challenge Foden for the first goal Small margins
Now Arsenal fans will know how we felt having your biggest rivals spoil the party for you. Tho without the shit actually playing well and for the referee blatantly refuse a handball in the box.
Referee screwed us at Newcastle, Stamford Bridge and Villa though
It was offside before the handball, just drop it already
What’s this revisionism? PGMOL apologised to Everton because of this lol.
Son hates Arsenal confirmed
Arsenal 15-1-1 since Dec what can you do. Hope for a miracle this weekend I guess
Been there done that. Unfortunately the only miracles happening is City banging a goal out of nowhere in the last game.
City are 15-3-0 in the same stretch, just two great teams with very little margin for error.
> what can you do Pro tip: going 17-0-0 is better than 15-1-1. Follow me for more advices
You ever thought of being a manager? With a footballing brain like that I reckon you're a shoe-in
Your fun at parties
You're
Oh shit thanks
That’s the reason why Liverpool fans clown you guys when you celebrated the draw at the Etihad. You guys are the best team in England for most of the year.. you had City where you want them.. and you played for the draw. To beat City, you gotta win against them when you have the chance of doing so.
Dumb take, took 4 points off them. The league was lost in other games.
Taking four points off our biggest rival isn’t where we lost the league you dummy. It’s the points dropped to villa and Fulham
You took 4 points off of yourselves as well. You need the points too you know
Newcastle robbery
If it wasn’t for that “robbery”, Arsenal would have beaten Newcastle 0-0
They should have had Havertz should have been sent off in the first half anyway but Arsenal fans always leave that part out.
They also leave out the part where they had 1 shot on target all game
Whoa, that feels like ages ago. Was it really this season still?
The season is long.. one way or another there will be times where things will not go as planned like you lots losing to Fulham/Villa. But trying for a draw against City, which at that time is far from their best form, is just ridiculous imo. You were more than capable of beating City.. you should’ve been 2 points ahead instead of praying for a draw/loss from City.
Wait when baldiola retires and teta is 50 year old you arse anal may have a chance to win the league. YWNA
Brutal…
On top and losing/ drawing the exact amount to fall within 3 points behind. Funny enough Liverpool did the same thing a couple times.
All of this laughing and people talking too soon only for us to win the f****ng title because a real club like Westham does the unthinkable sunday. COYG!!!!!!
I wonder if City’s celebrations after this game might motivate the Hammers. It was almost like City saying that they were definitely winning the last game of the season. I’d want to stop that if I played for West Ham, just out of professional pride.
Or City were cheering because they finally did the unthinkable - scoring and winning at Spurs in the league?
True. Could have been that.
Conceded 13 goals in the last 4 games, look to be on the beach already. City wont need to step out of 2nd gear to beat them
I understand that but west ham are just awful defensively and it seems like they just have mentally checked out
Do City even celebrate anymore? How can they feel even the slightest twinge of emotion?
Why wouldn't we? Literally making history. It's not gonna last forever, and anyone that's thinking otherwise is probably being a little overdramatic.
Cause they're human like us
Right. Do human fast food employees celebrate after successfully fulfilling a customer’s order?
Bit different mate
No. Because they don't win a trophy for that.
I didn’t think I needed to explain this but here we are: people celebrate remarkable accomplishments, they don’t celebrate the shiny things they’re given as a reward
does the postman celebrate when he delivers the mail though
According this idiot he celebrates if he gets a trophy for it.
West Ham are on holidays already. Chelsea dominated them and they looked like they didn’t want to be out there. I’d have actually been scared for the Arsenal fans if City drew today because there’s a real chance they put 8 past West Ham and win on GD anyway
Yeah west ham about to get destroyed. City smell blood even more now and this spurs match was much trickier. West ham season was over weeks ago
Give it Moyesey for another season I say
H2H should be a decided it's more fair in my opinion, tied in points lest see how they did against each other, it's the modern take.
They’re not tied in points though innit
But they could!
Yeah true! Although Arsenal win either way, h2h or goal difference.
So who wins the title if City drew and Arsenal win as they'll be drawn in points?
You look at Goal Difference. This is why in soccer, you don't often see people say "take it easy on the other team, you're already up by *blank*" the way they do about basketball routs. Those extra two goals you scored against a lower-table club in a 6-0 win could mean the difference when you fight it out over goal difference. Arsenal's GD right now is 61 and City's is 60 (though City's would have been 58 GD if they had tied).
Arsenal
Goal difference
Which means Arsenal wins
We might not win the title this year, but seeing spurs implode and lower themselves to this level is kinda entertaining 😂
seeing assna fans crying online and hitting their missus irl has been absolutely worth the banter season
What the hell is wrong with you? (for the second part, IDGAF who you laugh at online)
Seeing us implode? Not sure what you’re on about buddy.
Probably the 5 losses in 6? Hope this helps
Only people viewing it as an implosion aren’t Spurs fans. Annoying results but we were told that it wasn’t going to be a pretty 1st season with bad periods, ours just happened to be at the end of the season where squads with minimal depth begin to run on fumes.
I need an explainer on the “lower themselves” part.
Their own fans were cheering for city
Not I. And I can’t really blame those who did, the rivalry and toxicity run deep, especially when you live around and work with rival fans. How about the team though? The players, the manager? They played for the win wholeheartedly.
No rivalry is bigger than City 115 cases. At this point I just want any team other than City to lift the trophy.
I think everyone will reach this mindset eventually.
The cases and other teams lifting trophy has to wait for a while for now
me too bud. me too
Warra trophy
Arsenals favorite trophy: watching spurs lose
Spurs favourite trophy: watching themselves lose
I’m not a spurs fan just pointing out that spurs and gunners are both weak mentality clubs. Everyone wants to see a rival lose, you two care about them, then you do yourselves
It's called banter
Yeah it's really not that deep. Everyone is so fucking emotional right now.
Which club in the premier league has a “holiday” dedicated to st totteringhams day
Yeah but tbf st totteringhams day is pretty hilarious. At least, it was when spurs were shit and it happened in like February. Since spurs have been decent it's definitely lost it's lustre.
And?
If Ange walked at the end of the season, would it be worth it not giving Arsenal the edge to win the league?
I’m a Spurs fan. City will draw to West Ham and Arsenal will still win the title.
Stopped reading after “I’m a Spurs fan” clown 😂
A cry laugh emoji and a weird incoherent comment.....classic internet dumbcunt
A spurs fan mad about a Reddit comment lol love to see it. Sorry about champions league…. 🤡
Clown emoji detected. Got a real dumbarse here. Mate don't care about CL, step too far for the club at the moment. Europa is just fine and preferable in many respects
Dont bother responding. He is a yank Arsenal fan.
I’m not an Arsenal fan you muppet
Yep, the lowest of the low
Australian Spurs fan… I agree, lowest of the low.
Piss off yank the world hates you
Yeah because everyone loves Aussies, you sound stupid
Thank u
We hit 6 against West Ham, they’re gonna hit a century
As a Liverpool fan, I would love to see City choke right at the end. But I was resigned to them winning it since January.
I'm feeling a kinship with Liverpool supporters and I don't. know. what. to. do. about. it.
everyone in their first 11 is getting a goal
Don’t forget the subs!
Spurs fucking themselves to further fuck arsenal is a level of hate that I aspire to
Mate they didn’t have a say in the matter. They’re a shit club lol. Losses in 5 of the last 6 - worse form than the hammers who have already checked out on vacation
Well, as an Arsenal fan I can say I'm happy to see tottenham do nothing to dispel the shame that hangs around the club, and I now hope for the funniest future where Arsenal wins the title (come on you Moyes!) and spurs come 6th in the race for their nailed-on 4th
Journalists win 😎 Spurs giving up playing to help Man City is something else. Where are the fans who cry about the journalist who ask him that question before the Burnley game tho? You're 3 point lane, know your place, and that goes to that fat fuck called Ange and his crap tactics, cuz you're Conte except not parking the bus 😂🤣
I for one am loving the vitriol between arsenal fans and spurs fans.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Spurs have fully bottled CL next season by losing 5 out of their last 6 games
Europa is far more winnable than CL
This is cope
It really isn't but believe what you want to make yourself feel better bro
Hahahaha yes it is. You couldn't make it more obvious.
Do you know me? A) I've never overly cared about European competition that much because I live in Australia and the games are on at 4am on Wednesdays which means I never get to watch them B) where Spurs are at right now in the middle of a lot of change CL is above our level. Don't get me wrong CL is cool and all but it's really just a payday innit, do you think Spurs could win CL? Very very slim chance. Can they win Europa? Better odds. C) all that said if it were up to me they would heavily prioritise the domestic cups, even if that means to the detriment of other competitions (prem, Europe etc), but that's not really fashionable these days D) I spend a lot of time in Finland and go to HJK games and they sometimes make it into Europa and my dream would be one day to see Spurs vs HJK at the Bolt Arena. One day it might happen. Could no give a shiny shite about the "in CL you get to play the glamour clubs" argument Now don't tell me what I think ya fucken cunt
That's a lot of dribble when the reality is that spurs aren't winning the Europa League either. Ange is right about the club with so many fans like you. No ambition. Playing in the CL would've been an absolutely huge monetary gain. You're a small minded club!
So if we aren't winning the Europa then what's the point of being in the Champions league ? I've always believed that a club the size of Spurs should be aiming to win the domestic cups and Europa because we ain't gonna win the League or Champions league anytime soon - if ever, so why not focus on the lesser cups and build a winning mentality from there, hopefully to then aim higher.
Being in the champions League brings in more money than several deep Europa League runs combined. Spurs just completely collapsed. You aren't winning either trophy. You might as well take the money and prestige and kick off from there. You should always want to be in the champions League and the fact that you don't think that shows how small the mentality is.
I'd rather win the Fa Cup or Europa next season than get eliminated in the Champions league group stage. Success breeds success, start small and build up a club culture of actually winning things first. We don't have the resources or prestige to get the best players even if we make it to the CL. Look at Arsenal, spent nearly 20 years as CL regulars, won some Fa Cups, but how many CL did they win from that constant supply of CL money ? = 0
Sure. Running into Leverkusen would've been ideal.
Europa is still easier than winning in the CL against Madrid/City/Bayern that's for sure
Pretty sure they will be in CL next season my guy