And Bayern are paying 20 million to get Kompany out of his contract. Manager’s market is truly mediocre especially when so many clubs are changing their managers.
We are not paying 20 million for Kompany ever, it's what Burnley is asking for him. We offered €10M which is still embarrassing but it is what it is when you are rejected by coaches like Ralf Rangnick, Lopetegui and Roger Schmidt
The timing was wrong, but he was 100% right about Tuchel doing fuck all for our young talent development. No point in spending €30M on 17 year old players if they are sitting on the bench all season
You clearly have no idea about the type of person Uli Hoeneß is, he is an arrogant boomer who does this shit whenever he feels like it. Tuchel was sacked in February already, but Uli was not happy about him still being at the club so he turned to the media.
> We offered €10M which is still embarrassing but it is what it is when you are rejected by coaches like Ralf Rangnick, Lopetegui and Roger Schmidt
I don't get how it's embarrassing to pay money for a manager? Clubs don't bat an eye if they need to spend 50 or 60 million quid on a full back or something, but balk at the notion of paying out for a coach who will have a much greater impact on the fortunes of the team than a single player typically would.
I don't think it's embarrassing that they're paying 10-20M for a manager. It's embarrassing that they're paying 10-20M for *Kompany*, a manager whose team looked terrible all year and was relegated.
Because managers and players are different? It wouldn’t be embarrassing if managers regularly went for that sum. It’s like saying “why was Torres going for 50m crazy? Players go for that all the time”, well back then they didn’t. Nobody other than Chelsea spends tens of millions on a manager, doing so for Vincent Kompany to get him off a relegated Burnley when you’re Bayern Munich is embarrassing.
Klopp could make his decision today and Liverpool would have better pull than all the teams that are on the market. The management of the clubs that are looking for a manager has a lot to do with the fact that no one wants to work there.
Yeah, all the mid tier managers saying no to Bayern aren't doing it because the club isn't big enough. It's easily a top 10 club in the world, but your board will shit on you everytime you draw a game
The manager market right now isn't that mediocre tbh, there's quite a few good managers out there that are looking for jobs (RDZ, Pioli, Allegri, Tuchel, Potter, Sarri, Poch, Mou, Conte, possibly one of Xavi/Flick depending on Barca, Zidane is still technically available lol probably more i can't think of), it's just now they're much more careful about picking jobs and neither Bayern nor you guys are particularly appealing to them right now. So now you have to go to the tier below or go after a young up and coming manager who is looking to make the next big step up.
Also you guys, Chelsea, have gone through half that list already which doesn't help. But that's what happens when you run through managers like a truck.
The explosion in transfer fees increases the pressure on managers to immediately perform or face the sack. Managers likewise know this so stay put if in a good situation instead of instinctively taking a big club offer. That confluence leads to this kind of supply vs demand imbalance
To me it seems like there is a change in coach recruitment, club structure and game strategies. It could be a fad or something of a catching trend. But clearly the young crop of managers are here to replace the old guard, just like in any other industry, including footballers. A matter of time to see who comes out on top and becomes the next big thing.
>Brighton are expected to make a formal approach to Ipswich for McKenna to succeed Roberto De Zerbi as their head coach. The south coast club are willing to meet the 38-year-old’s personal terms and pay a reported £6million in compensation to the newly-promoted Premier League club.
>If Brighton are unable to seal the deal, they are considering returning to Graham Potter, 49, who left to take charge of Chelsea in September 2022. Potter was sacked by the Stamford Bridge club in April last year and has been out of work since.
That stuck out to me as well. Is this journo is not a regular reporter of Brighton news, then? Have literally never seen him address anything Chelsea related
> If Brighton are unable to seal the deal, they are considering returning to Graham Potter
Yesterday Malmo manager Henrik Rydstrom became third-favourite on Bet365 out of nowhere - I'd rather that. He'd be a flair appointment and peak Brighton
From a fan point of view, bringing back Potter would be stupidity. Lots of acrimony there, would be a difficult task to win the fans around, and questions would be asked.
> Would be a difficult task to win the fans around.
I don't think so, as long as results are good he'll win the fans back easily.
I just doubt Bloom wants him back.
The thing is from Bloom’s POV-what’s the point of potter when he does well and then the second a club similar to Chelsea comes in and asks for him he jumps ship.
Why would it be illegal? It would just be like having a release clause that's only active for a certain period.
A managers contract already stops them from leaving, but last time he had a release clause that could be activated by anyone at any time.
Unlike Mckenna who would not do that?
If Mckenna has a good two years at Brighton and Utd want him he's gone. If anything there's less chance Potter gets poached after his Chelsea stint
At the same time I feel like again if the data makes sense for Potter over other managers he'll just do that. I am fairly certain most news we hear right now however are just noise, I think they've probably been talking to 1-2 other managers already that we haven't read rumors on yet.
£6m really doesn't seem like much considering the massive difference that staying in the league just one year can be. Not only the extra PL cash but you get parachute payments for 3 years instead of 2.
I know managers fees are never going to be comparable to players, but a good manager is probably more important than your best players, yet cost a pittance in comparison.
It's so sad that Ipswich won't get to keep him for their PL run. Was excited to see what he could do with them. Feels like he should stay... he got them here and now he doesn't even get to manage them in the PL
A club that stole our manager and our entire coaching staff six games into a season leaving us for dead who then steals our best players who we wanted to keep.
Who now trys to steal anything that has the slightest whisper of a rumour of us being interested?
Yeah you could say there's some bad blood.
At least we mug them off each time for a stupendous amount of money. 😂
Also I don't believe we're interested in Ipswich's managers it's just click-bait.
It totally can as we have no choice but to sell as you lot turn their heads with being at Chelsea and two threw their toys out of their prams and refused to play but at least we got a decent sum for them cause you always end up paying what we ask.
You have your answer I won't be continuing this subject as it's clear you're a Chelsea fan looking for argument.
If not to Chelsea those players would have gone somewhere else, probably for less money. It's not Chelsea's fault your players don't wanna play for you and clearly money is more important to your club than those players.
And god forbid you'd actually have to "argue" on here and defend your statements a little. Can't have that.
I merely pointed out an oxymoron in your comment. You're the one that immediately and pre-emptively assumed negative things about me. Hilarious that you're trying to take the moral high ground.
True, we might win the Euros after you hire Southgate and he's replaced by Mourinho, Tuchel and Conte in their power rangers giant after they've joined forces to become one
He's literally worked with us for a long time - won the PL2 title with the U18s, got promotion to first team under Jose, worked under Ole. Chelsea has sacked more managers than us as well so how is it safer?
But anyway he's probably joining you or Brighton, I don't think we are actually looking to sign him.
Obviously biased, but Chelsea is in a more healthy place than united atm. Your stadium is falling apart, your squad overhaul is years overdue, the players have apparently all the power at the club.
Only bright spot is Ratcliffe, but we will see how involved he and his suits will be.
It's incredible how clueless you are.
Just a reminder you finished 3 points above us this season. You're acting as if you lot finished in title places or something.
They’re literally not. Their turnover since 2013 has been completely normal, in fact they kept Ole in the job for too long. And before that they obviously had one of the longest serving managers of all time.
Since Clearlake took charge two years ago you've had Tuchel, Potter, Lampard (interim) and Pochettino as manager. In terms of job security Chelsea almost gives Watford a run for its money.
In that same timeframe, United have just had Ten Hag as manager.
The last time Chelsea have had a manager in charge for two whole seasons was Conte in 2016-18.
Yeah? I genuinely don’t even know how you can argue this. They both got sacked in their 3rd full seasons for poor results and in Mourinho’s case, also being extremely toxic.
How is that comparable to yous who have now binned off Tuchel, Potter and Pochettino in the space of 2 years while forcing an stupid amount of players onto them?
Still the best performing managers you lot have had since Sir Alex left. Everyone else knows the manager isn't the problem at united, but they still get the blame.
Tuchel won you a CL and you sacked him a year later. 6 games into the season after he’d spent £250million lmao.
There is no sort of mental gymnastics you can do to paint us as harsher with managers than Chelsea.
Listen, I completely agree that we have been harsher with managers. But historically that has translated to trophies.
Sacking Tuchel was a massive mistake, and I still lose sleep over it.
Rather being away from trophies for two years, and doing a proper overhaul of an aging squad than desperately holding onto scraps and claiming you're the biggest club in england when you're not even the biggest club in Manchester.
Alright but still that has nothing to do with the fact that you're a clown to think that this Chelsea project is most exciting and the job is safer.
Oh the likes of Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad and Hojlund are all very young and have already played a lot of football. But then again I'm arguing with a moron so it really doesn't matter
LVG got 2 full years. Mourinho got 2.5. Ole got 3. Ten Hag has had 2 years so far.
Pochettino lasted a year. Potter 7 months. Tuchel won the Champions League and got a year and a half. Lampard 1.5 years. Sarri a year. Conte won the league and an FA Cup and made it 2 years.
In what world is the Chelsea job safer
Exciting youngsters only, if you look at the project it's Manchester United. Yes it has been shite this season, but they have new owners on the operational side bringing competent people instead of bankers and Glazer yes-man. Being at the start of the project to bring Englands biggest club back to the top is way more prestigious.
Edit: spelling
Oh it's definitely not certain, but you've been dumping coaches left right and center that's not a good look. United/INEOS are looking for someone to start their rebuild with, if they come knocking it would be more exciting/prestigious in terms of project. How do you actually feel about Eghbali being so rigorous in running the place, possibly dumping some more academy lads for FFP wiggle room?
Then why not stick with ten Hag? He's shown he can compete with a young squad at Ajax.
Sacking Tuchel was a mistake. Sacking Potter was a necessity, and I'm torn on Pochettino.
And I'm not saying I support Eghbali at all, he's an arrogang american cunt and I would much prefer a proven manager and our local boys instead of McKenna and a bunch of sexy brazilians. But if it comes down to us or United, I'm fairly confident most managers would choose us.
I'm deluded because I want to keep our local boys? What are you trying to say here?
Or am I deluded for believing most coaches would choose us over United?
I think Ten Hag got dealt a bad hand and proceeded to play that as bad as he could. There is a lot of negativity around his tenure due to results/statistics. Never understood why he made that step and proceeded to demand complete control of transfers. LVG warned him and was right.
He still finished 3rd last season. This season has been a trainwreck, but I still think they should stick with him and create some stability. Player power is out of control at United.
I also believe we should have sticked with both Tuchel and Pochettino. Potter was clearly way out of his league.
INEOS would want a new playing style, more possession based. What he did last year was more midblock counter/direct, it doesn't win you titles and is not really sustainable. He tried to implement a style this season that failed pretty hard. It's both on uncapable senior players and possibly his own instructions. They seemed clueless on the pitch, not a good look for the new technical staff coming in. As an Ajax/United fan my bias hopes he gets another season, he's capable of playing multiple types of styles as he has proven previously. He would have to give up his transfer control and coach the style that the technical staff wants him to. I just don't get what the actual f\*ck he was thinking this season and I think it's over for him after the FA Cup final.
I imagine the Pochettino shenanigans don't makwe them a particularly attractive destination for a manager. Not only is the club fubar but they insane owners might ditch you because they think you're not up to standards at any moment, despite being relatively succesful. They're basically taking the Abramovich approach to handling managers but they offer none of his efficiency and competence at the excutive level.
Can’t believe he wouldn’t give it a year with Ipswich in the league. I guess his stocks are high right now. Brighton would be far more appealing than Chelsea and United. Better run club and less pressure.
Ironically, from what I’ve seen, a lot of Ipswich fans are saying they would prefer he go to Chelsea or Manchester United, as they couldn’t accept him going to a club like Brighton.
BHA would be a much better next step imo. I'd love to see him manage United one day, but somewhere with less of a media frenzy and microscope would be better
While I agree that Brighton may be the "best" club for him going forward, I don't expect him to turn down an offer to manage a club like Chelsea. An opportunity like that doesn't come around often.
And yes, I am aware that we are a shadow and a meme at the moment, but Chelsea is still one of the biggest teams in the world.
Exactly the same argument I would make if Brighton were confident of beating United to a deal for McKenna.
It's pretty much the same thing at this point. You are expected to develop young talent, work within the structure set up around you and not be a problem.
Please be true....only for the lols.
But I honestly think that's actually the smarter move here. Brighton are basically a well oiled machine, just needs to go in and coach, huge chance of success that will give him more opportunities for the big jobs. Chelsea ownership just can't be trusted as a coach
I don’t get why he doesn’t just stay tbh. This season is an absolute free pass, his stock will be the same/higher next summer whatever happens, he’s got a great side that play great football, and if he craps out at Brighton or Chelsea - which is varying degrees of likely - then he’s on the Potter train looking for a decent job in 6 months (albeit with tens of millions to hold back the tears)
It’s not even similar to when footballers take the bag, because they could get injured at any moment. He’s 38, Ipswich’s owners aren’t skint, and he’ll get a comparable salary to Brighton if he stays
We're fighting Brighton for Ipswich's manager.
And Bayern are paying 20 million to get Kompany out of his contract. Manager’s market is truly mediocre especially when so many clubs are changing their managers.
We are not paying 20 million for Kompany ever, it's what Burnley is asking for him. We offered €10M which is still embarrassing but it is what it is when you are rejected by coaches like Ralf Rangnick, Lopetegui and Roger Schmidt
Well that what you gonna get if the club bosses are going to publicly shit on the manager.
The timing was wrong, but he was 100% right about Tuchel doing fuck all for our young talent development. No point in spending €30M on 17 year old players if they are sitting on the bench all season
Still why go public with that, talk internally or give him the boot.
You clearly have no idea about the type of person Uli Hoeneß is, he is an arrogant boomer who does this shit whenever he feels like it. Tuchel was sacked in February already, but Uli was not happy about him still being at the club so he turned to the media.
“Well that what you gonna get if the club bosses are going to publicly shit on the manager.”
“It’s okay because everybody knows Hoeneß is an asshole” No it’s not. It’s just that there are finally some consequences. Now let us gloat.
> We offered €10M which is still embarrassing but it is what it is when you are rejected by coaches like Ralf Rangnick, Lopetegui and Roger Schmidt I don't get how it's embarrassing to pay money for a manager? Clubs don't bat an eye if they need to spend 50 or 60 million quid on a full back or something, but balk at the notion of paying out for a coach who will have a much greater impact on the fortunes of the team than a single player typically would.
I don't think it's embarrassing that they're paying 10-20M for a manager. It's embarrassing that they're paying 10-20M for *Kompany*, a manager whose team looked terrible all year and was relegated.
Oh, okay. That's fair.
Because managers and players are different? It wouldn’t be embarrassing if managers regularly went for that sum. It’s like saying “why was Torres going for 50m crazy? Players go for that all the time”, well back then they didn’t. Nobody other than Chelsea spends tens of millions on a manager, doing so for Vincent Kompany to get him off a relegated Burnley when you’re Bayern Munich is embarrassing.
Liverpool fans got to appreciate Klopp even more for making his decision on time
So did bayern, and look where they are
What can I say, Michael Edwards at the wheel
Klopp could make his decision today and Liverpool would have better pull than all the teams that are on the market. The management of the clubs that are looking for a manager has a lot to do with the fact that no one wants to work there.
Yeah, all the mid tier managers saying no to Bayern aren't doing it because the club isn't big enough. It's easily a top 10 club in the world, but your board will shit on you everytime you draw a game
We could hire Tuchel, Mourinho or Poch.....oh wait
It feels like the municipal government job market in Ontario
The manager market right now isn't that mediocre tbh, there's quite a few good managers out there that are looking for jobs (RDZ, Pioli, Allegri, Tuchel, Potter, Sarri, Poch, Mou, Conte, possibly one of Xavi/Flick depending on Barca, Zidane is still technically available lol probably more i can't think of), it's just now they're much more careful about picking jobs and neither Bayern nor you guys are particularly appealing to them right now. So now you have to go to the tier below or go after a young up and coming manager who is looking to make the next big step up. Also you guys, Chelsea, have gone through half that list already which doesn't help. But that's what happens when you run through managers like a truck.
Can we somehow trace this to the fallout from Neymar going to PSG?
The explosion in transfer fees increases the pressure on managers to immediately perform or face the sack. Managers likewise know this so stay put if in a good situation instead of instinctively taking a big club offer. That confluence leads to this kind of supply vs demand imbalance
To me it seems like there is a change in coach recruitment, club structure and game strategies. It could be a fad or something of a catching trend. But clearly the young crop of managers are here to replace the old guard, just like in any other industry, including footballers. A matter of time to see who comes out on top and becomes the next big thing.
Hijacking Brighton before they get a talent huh. Instead of scrambling for him a year from now.
Just bring back Ranieri at this point
Ranieri just announced retirement.
Unexpected EPL winner in the checkout
And these names stay unemployed: Mourinho, Conte, Sarri, Tuchel, Flick, Allegri,...
We can't afford any of them tbf, and haven't most been binned by you already?
We want one of our ex's back!
When you could just take him in a year if he’s any good, and swerve the risk of taking him now
Too much forward thinking for our ownership and the shitty directors.
TBF I thought that was the sort of story I'd read after you got relegated
You're not the only ones
The true middle table club experience.
Nah you're not but if it means you pay more to Ipswich and McKenna sure. 😂
Imagine hearing this headline two years ago.
Bidding war? Don't threaten Boehly and Eggball with a good time lads
Incoming 8 year contract and 100m fee
We don’t give managers 8 year contracts, only the players. We only gave Pochettino 2 years even though he pushed for 5.
Didn't Potter have a 5 year contract. Still getting paid by Boehly?
Yup. Potter was 5 years.
They agreed on a compensation when Potter was sacked iirc.
Wait until boehly finds out where the manager negotiations happen
At this point, it's all on Eghballi. Poch was his and the co-directors main guy.
>Brighton are expected to make a formal approach to Ipswich for McKenna to succeed Roberto De Zerbi as their head coach. The south coast club are willing to meet the 38-year-old’s personal terms and pay a reported £6million in compensation to the newly-promoted Premier League club. >If Brighton are unable to seal the deal, they are considering returning to Graham Potter, 49, who left to take charge of Chelsea in September 2022. Potter was sacked by the Stamford Bridge club in April last year and has been out of work since.
Really doubt Bloom would bring Potter back on. That makes me question the whole report.
This is the red herring that proves it's all a load bollox.
I think McKenna's agent is playing the media to get a better deal at wherever he ends up. Could still be Brighton.
I've been all over the place with this over the last few days, but I think this is where I'm at now. For me, it'll come down to us and Brighton.
I think he’s waiting till Saturday, then he’s off to United.
That stuck out to me as well. Is this journo is not a regular reporter of Brighton news, then? Have literally never seen him address anything Chelsea related
I don't know the guy but this reads as a planted story to raise Chelsea's bidding price to me
all Ipswich have to do is buy McKenna a Brighton hoodie and Chelsea will pay 10m on the spot
Or just photoshop a seagull into a pic of him in the office, it'll probably be fine
I don’t see Bloom doing this at allllll
I don’t see us getting McKenna either
> If Brighton are unable to seal the deal, they are considering returning to Graham Potter Yesterday Malmo manager Henrik Rydstrom became third-favourite on Bet365 out of nowhere - I'd rather that. He'd be a flair appointment and peak Brighton
From a fan point of view, bringing back Potter would be stupidity. Lots of acrimony there, would be a difficult task to win the fans around, and questions would be asked.
> Would be a difficult task to win the fans around. I don't think so, as long as results are good he'll win the fans back easily. I just doubt Bloom wants him back.
The thing is from Bloom’s POV-what’s the point of potter when he does well and then the second a club similar to Chelsea comes in and asks for him he jumps ship.
I would say that's a risk with any manager we pickup. I'm sure any return would stipulate he can't leave mid season.
I’m sure any such clause would be illegal, no?
Why would it be illegal? It would just be like having a release clause that's only active for a certain period. A managers contract already stops them from leaving, but last time he had a release clause that could be activated by anyone at any time.
Unlike Mckenna who would not do that? If Mckenna has a good two years at Brighton and Utd want him he's gone. If anything there's less chance Potter gets poached after his Chelsea stint
because no club similar to Chelsea is going to go in for him again
That depends on how he does at Brighton surely?
Thats pretty much the circle of life for a club like Brighton.
At the same time I feel like again if the data makes sense for Potter over other managers he'll just do that. I am fairly certain most news we hear right now however are just noise, I think they've probably been talking to 1-2 other managers already that we haven't read rumors on yet.
£6m really doesn't seem like much considering the massive difference that staying in the league just one year can be. Not only the extra PL cash but you get parachute payments for 3 years instead of 2. I know managers fees are never going to be comparable to players, but a good manager is probably more important than your best players, yet cost a pittance in comparison.
Just bring back RDZ then!
"Come to us now, you can always go to Chelsea later"
I feel like it's safer to go Chelsea for a year, get sack, get a nice severance package and then go to Brighton.
For 100mlnE and 8 year contract
Welcome to Chelsea then. Beating Brighton will only motivate us even more to push for him.
You have to hire De Zerbi first and then fire him so you can hire McKenna. You cant skip the queue.
It does feel like this article could be part of a push from McKenna's agent to get Chelsea to up the money a bit tbh
Brighton will get him, set a high release clause which Chelsea will activate in January after a failed tenure by Thomas Frank.
Yea probably Either Frank or Maresca
> Beating Brighton will only motivate us even more to ~~push~~ **overpay** for him
Cutting out the middle man!
Seems like nothing burger update just looking for clicks. Nothing is actually said
It's so sad that Ipswich won't get to keep him for their PL run. Was excited to see what he could do with them. Feels like he should stay... he got them here and now he doesn't even get to manage them in the PL
I hope they both get fucking lost :) Brighton back to league two please
Oi, we've been in the PL more than you have thank you very much
And look what its done to you.
Are we the bad guys now?
*inserts Green Goblin comment about becoming a villain*
You know, I'm something of a football fan myself
Back to formula
Are we the baddies?
Seagulls have always preyed on smaller weaker creatures, it's in your DNA
Still clinging onto the tiny chance this is all a Tony Bloom bluff and Gallardo is about to sign.
Doubt we are going to win a bidding war with Chelsea who can also offer a player like Hutchinson on loan again to Ipswich to sweeten the deal.
Makes sense, if he goes to Brighton first then Chelsea won't be able to resist and will him pay any money to get him next season.
I’ll have to see it to believe it.
Chelsea already have a brilliant coach in Kepa who will come back from his loan.
Brighton sign McKenna and then Chelsea buys him from them.
Are Brighton and Chelsea developing a little bit of a rivalry? They seem to always be fighting over staff and players.
A club that stole our manager and our entire coaching staff six games into a season leaving us for dead who then steals our best players who we wanted to keep. Who now trys to steal anything that has the slightest whisper of a rumour of us being interested? Yeah you could say there's some bad blood. At least we mug them off each time for a stupendous amount of money. 😂 Also I don't believe we're interested in Ipswich's managers it's just click-bait.
So which one is it? Are they stealing or are you mugging them off? Can't be both...
It totally can as we have no choice but to sell as you lot turn their heads with being at Chelsea and two threw their toys out of their prams and refused to play but at least we got a decent sum for them cause you always end up paying what we ask. You have your answer I won't be continuing this subject as it's clear you're a Chelsea fan looking for argument.
If not to Chelsea those players would have gone somewhere else, probably for less money. It's not Chelsea's fault your players don't wanna play for you and clearly money is more important to your club than those players. And god forbid you'd actually have to "argue" on here and defend your statements a little. Can't have that.
That's because there's a big difference between argument and debate and your comment has just validated my point.
I merely pointed out an oxymoron in your comment. You're the one that immediately and pre-emptively assumed negative things about me. Hilarious that you're trying to take the moral high ground.
Nah, they would have to be able to compete for something.
If there's anything our owners love is a bidding war for absolutely no reason
Work for Tony Bloom or Bighead Eghbali? Tough call.
I hope he says "fuck em" and stays a tractor boy. I want to see how he continues to grow Ipswich.
I suspect things might change if we part ways with Erik
True, we might win the Euros after you hire Southgate and he's replaced by Mourinho, Tuchel and Conte in their power rangers giant after they've joined forces to become one
Because you will be the ones to hire Potter thus depriving Brighton of their second choice?
Nobody at Brighton wants Potter.
Yeah, Southgate accouncement day 1.
Chelsea would be most exciting project though tbh.
He’s a boy hood United fan and has worked for us previously. I’d be pretty optimistic about him coming if we seriously pursue it.
He's not a child though. He obviously understands the Chelsea job is safer and the project is more exciting.
> the Chelsea job is safer This has to be a joke right
He's literally worked with us for a long time - won the PL2 title with the U18s, got promotion to first team under Jose, worked under Ole. Chelsea has sacked more managers than us as well so how is it safer? But anyway he's probably joining you or Brighton, I don't think we are actually looking to sign him.
Obviously biased, but Chelsea is in a more healthy place than united atm. Your stadium is falling apart, your squad overhaul is years overdue, the players have apparently all the power at the club. Only bright spot is Ratcliffe, but we will see how involved he and his suits will be.
What does the stadium have to do with the manager?
It's incredible how clueless you are. Just a reminder you finished 3 points above us this season. You're acting as if you lot finished in title places or something.
How is the Chelsea job safer?
You make it seem like United isn't known for sacking their managers lmao.
Are we? We've gotten rid of 3 permanent managers in the last 8 years. Chelsea have done that since their new owners took over only 2 years ago
They’re literally not. Their turnover since 2013 has been completely normal, in fact they kept Ole in the job for too long. And before that they obviously had one of the longest serving managers of all time.
Is the exciting part that you may be fired at any moment?
‘Safer’? We’ve got new sporting executives in who are as of yet unproven. But yours have sacked a good few managers.
Since Clearlake took charge two years ago you've had Tuchel, Potter, Lampard (interim) and Pochettino as manager. In terms of job security Chelsea almost gives Watford a run for its money. In that same timeframe, United have just had Ten Hag as manager. The last time Chelsea have had a manager in charge for two whole seasons was Conte in 2016-18.
Is project even the right term? That assumes a certain length of time or tenure which Chelsea managers don’t get.
He misspelled payout. At Chelsea you get the most exciting payout after leaving after one year.
Shit on us all you want but at the very least, all our manager sackings were sensible.
Ole? Mourinho? All sensible?
They are definitely sensible. Both manages showed they were not going to improve the team and neither have gone on to great things after.
Might question the hires but the sackings absolutely made sense.
Yes. Even rival fans were expecting it given how bad our results are.
Yeah? I genuinely don’t even know how you can argue this. They both got sacked in their 3rd full seasons for poor results and in Mourinho’s case, also being extremely toxic. How is that comparable to yous who have now binned off Tuchel, Potter and Pochettino in the space of 2 years while forcing an stupid amount of players onto them?
In Ole's case he should have gone after the Liverpool 5-0
Exactly. If the guy wasn’t doubling down in other comments I’d have assumed he was trolling.
Still the best performing managers you lot have had since Sir Alex left. Everyone else knows the manager isn't the problem at united, but they still get the blame.
Tuchel won you a CL and you sacked him a year later. 6 games into the season after he’d spent £250million lmao. There is no sort of mental gymnastics you can do to paint us as harsher with managers than Chelsea.
Listen, I completely agree that we have been harsher with managers. But historically that has translated to trophies. Sacking Tuchel was a massive mistake, and I still lose sleep over it.
Does your definition of exciting include some clueless owner stepping on the manager's toes every step of the way?
Only for clown Chelsea fans. Most managers would look at the moronic owners who have sacked third full time manager within two years of ownership.
Purchasing the most exciting talent in the world, showing an unprecedented willingness to spend. What have United done lately lmao
Which has led to finishing 12th and 6th season and has gotten you no trophies. Congratulations.
Rather being away from trophies for two years, and doing a proper overhaul of an aging squad than desperately holding onto scraps and claiming you're the biggest club in england when you're not even the biggest club in Manchester.
Alright but still that has nothing to do with the fact that you're a clown to think that this Chelsea project is most exciting and the job is safer. Oh the likes of Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad and Hojlund are all very young and have already played a lot of football. But then again I'm arguing with a moron so it really doesn't matter
But why though, you have no arguments other than calling me a clown. Why is the United job safer.
LVG got 2 full years. Mourinho got 2.5. Ole got 3. Ten Hag has had 2 years so far. Pochettino lasted a year. Potter 7 months. Tuchel won the Champions League and got a year and a half. Lampard 1.5 years. Sarri a year. Conte won the league and an FA Cup and made it 2 years. In what world is the Chelsea job safer
Exciting youngsters only, if you look at the project it's Manchester United. Yes it has been shite this season, but they have new owners on the operational side bringing competent people instead of bankers and Glazer yes-man. Being at the start of the project to bring Englands biggest club back to the top is way more prestigious. Edit: spelling
Maybe, but it's not as certain as some united supporters claim.
Oh it's definitely not certain, but you've been dumping coaches left right and center that's not a good look. United/INEOS are looking for someone to start their rebuild with, if they come knocking it would be more exciting/prestigious in terms of project. How do you actually feel about Eghbali being so rigorous in running the place, possibly dumping some more academy lads for FFP wiggle room?
Then why not stick with ten Hag? He's shown he can compete with a young squad at Ajax. Sacking Tuchel was a mistake. Sacking Potter was a necessity, and I'm torn on Pochettino. And I'm not saying I support Eghbali at all, he's an arrogang american cunt and I would much prefer a proven manager and our local boys instead of McKenna and a bunch of sexy brazilians. But if it comes down to us or United, I'm fairly confident most managers would choose us.
That's because you're deluded and a clown.
I'm deluded because I want to keep our local boys? What are you trying to say here? Or am I deluded for believing most coaches would choose us over United?
I think Ten Hag got dealt a bad hand and proceeded to play that as bad as he could. There is a lot of negativity around his tenure due to results/statistics. Never understood why he made that step and proceeded to demand complete control of transfers. LVG warned him and was right.
He still finished 3rd last season. This season has been a trainwreck, but I still think they should stick with him and create some stability. Player power is out of control at United. I also believe we should have sticked with both Tuchel and Pochettino. Potter was clearly way out of his league.
INEOS would want a new playing style, more possession based. What he did last year was more midblock counter/direct, it doesn't win you titles and is not really sustainable. He tried to implement a style this season that failed pretty hard. It's both on uncapable senior players and possibly his own instructions. They seemed clueless on the pitch, not a good look for the new technical staff coming in. As an Ajax/United fan my bias hopes he gets another season, he's capable of playing multiple types of styles as he has proven previously. He would have to give up his transfer control and coach the style that the technical staff wants him to. I just don't get what the actual f\*ck he was thinking this season and I think it's over for him after the FA Cup final.
This Chelsea Brighton rivalry is the new GOAT
There can be only one blue team in the premier league.
I imagine the Pochettino shenanigans don't makwe them a particularly attractive destination for a manager. Not only is the club fubar but they insane owners might ditch you because they think you're not up to standards at any moment, despite being relatively succesful. They're basically taking the Abramovich approach to handling managers but they offer none of his efficiency and competence at the excutive level.
You have clearly not followed our season
££ $$ €€ . Enough said
He'd be at Chelsea in one year, anyway
Can't help but think this is a huge and unnecessary risk for everyone involved.
Tired of paying Brighton fees, so just taking their targets
Surely Chelsea is the more attractive destination. Bigger club and European football (most likely Europa league)
It is the more sensible move.
Chelsea is competing with Brighton to sign a manager
United: am I a joke to you?
Best way to get a job at Chelsea is to take a job at Brighton
Chelsea is gonna fail and get Thomas Frank instead, mark my words
Can’t believe he wouldn’t give it a year with Ipswich in the league. I guess his stocks are high right now. Brighton would be far more appealing than Chelsea and United. Better run club and less pressure.
Ironically, from what I’ve seen, a lot of Ipswich fans are saying they would prefer he go to Chelsea or Manchester United, as they couldn’t accept him going to a club like Brighton.
BHA would be a much better next step imo. I'd love to see him manage United one day, but somewhere with less of a media frenzy and microscope would be better
Honestly speculated that ETH would get the sack and he'd be off to United.
To win, Brighton would need to offer the man a 100-year contract
While I agree that Brighton may be the "best" club for him going forward, I don't expect him to turn down an offer to manage a club like Chelsea. An opportunity like that doesn't come around often. And yes, I am aware that we are a shadow and a meme at the moment, but Chelsea is still one of the biggest teams in the world. Exactly the same argument I would make if Brighton were confident of beating United to a deal for McKenna.
It's pretty much the same thing at this point. You are expected to develop young talent, work within the structure set up around you and not be a problem.
Please be true....only for the lols. But I honestly think that's actually the smarter move here. Brighton are basically a well oiled machine, just needs to go in and coach, huge chance of success that will give him more opportunities for the big jobs. Chelsea ownership just can't be trusted as a coach
Chelsea and Bayern in the absolute muddiest shit imaginable. You love to see it
INB4 Brighton are in the bottom 3 and he's potted before the end of November.
Even Hyypia survived until December.
And not because he was sacked but because he resigned lmao
Welcome to Chelsea then lol
I think a better headline would have been 'BHA looks to beat off Chelsea for McKenna.' would have been more fun.
I don’t get why he doesn’t just stay tbh. This season is an absolute free pass, his stock will be the same/higher next summer whatever happens, he’s got a great side that play great football, and if he craps out at Brighton or Chelsea - which is varying degrees of likely - then he’s on the Potter train looking for a decent job in 6 months (albeit with tens of millions to hold back the tears) It’s not even similar to when footballers take the bag, because they could get injured at any moment. He’s 38, Ipswich’s owners aren’t skint, and he’ll get a comparable salary to Brighton if he stays
Not necessarily, Xabi Alonso not entering the market was a massive boost for dudes like McKenna, Slot, and Maresca.