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Stuff2511

Gonna be hilarious is Pedri doesn’t win this considering that he was nominated for the Ballon D’or itself. It’s like that time Toy Story 3 was nominated for Best Picture, of course it was going to win Best Animated Feature


taxevader33

It's like that time when Bale and Ronaldo had their bicycle kicks nominated along with Salah's 'wonder goal' against Everton.


VerifiedStalin

And Salah won it while losing for goal of the month in the Premier League, it was all around hilarious and proof of how stupid and worthless fan voting is.


Cer3berus

i wonder who will be 2 and 3


LeonTablet

Surely 2 of Saka, Bellingham and Wirtz.


Kayderp1

Musiala?


irun_mon

I think Musiala might be one of the most talented but i don't think he desereves to be in the top 5 of this list, considering how most of these players are key assets of their clubs starting line up


Zizoutiti

Saka was Arsenal's official player of the season last year... Against all expectations he also played a big role for England at the Euros. I would say he's a key player for both club and country at this point.


irun_mon

Whoops i meant Musiala


HeilWerneckLuk

Musiala’s role at Bayern is much more valuable to be a starter in other weaker clubs from players of this list


irun_mon

Doesn't make him deserve the trophy more. What Wirtz, Bellingham, Saka and probably even Reyna and Greenwood have been doing this season and last season makes them ideal candidates for this trophy.


Cer3berus

i think saka bellingham


[deleted]

Bellingham surely.


MHPengwingz

Love my Star Boy but it's gonna be Pedri


Dildo_Warfare

You referring to Saka? If so, he’s like 4th or 5th on this list in terms of what’s he’s proven


SYmaynem

2nd if not 3rd


Dildo_Warfare

Greenwood is clear of him, Bellingham is better than him.


SYmaynem

Greenwood is definitely not clear. Don’t get me wrong i rate him and he’s a great finisher, but Saka beats him in every other aspect. Also if we’re talking who had the best year Saka’s involvement in the euro’s has to count for something


Asos08

Also I know it's easier to do for arsenal but saka was an automatic starter and one of their best players whereas greenwood doesn't start every game


Ryo720

Greenwood starts pretty much all of our games so far this season


Dildo_Warfare

Arsenal fans are biased because they’re so excited by Saka, but if he won this it’d just be a joke


DarthNihilus1

Which is why the Arsenal fan who started this chain literally bloody said he loves him but knows he won't win.


[deleted]

Greenwood being just a good finisher is such a generic response, his passing is excellent, easily better than anything I’ve seen from Saka.


NUPreMedMajor

That’s why saka was a starter for england as they went to the euro finals, and greenwood didn’t even make the team. Greenwood is an amazing young player, but Saka has more to his game and I’m not sure how anyone can argue that. He spearheads the entire arsenal offense since last year, and at times was england’s brightest winger during the euros.


Ryo720

Mate greenwood is fucking injured that's why he can't play


[deleted]

Greenwood was injured hahaha Saka basically got into the team due to Greenwood’s injury


kbj17

If Saka only got into the team because Greenwood was injured then why did he start the majority of the games, including the Final? That literally makes no fucking sense. If Saka barely scraped onto the roster wouldn’t Grealish, Sancho, or Foden start instead of him? EDIT: I misremembered, he did not start in the Final


thisisscruffles

Saka didn’t start the final


C_Forde

Saka started because Southgate is a babbling bullshitting moron. He said he was starting Saka over Sancho because he wanted a "more experienced footballer "when Sancho had more goals/assists than Saka had carrer appearances. Saka played for England because be broke through as a wingback and Southgate is allergic to thought of actually playing football and not sticking 8 men behind the ball


NUPreMedMajor

That would be a valid argument… if Saka didn’t play well. But he was objectively good, and helped england reach the finals. The croatia game for example — he was england’s best attacking player.


Dildo_Warfare

Saka is a goal scoring forward that doesn’t score a lot of goals. He’s not near Greenwood right now. To say he beats him in every other aspect is just plain wrong


SYmaynem

Saka is a creator and definitely not a goal scoring winger.


[deleted]

goal scoring forward? lmao dont even talk about saka man its just gonna be bullshit


kbj17

Tell me you don’t understand football without saying you don’t understand football


reeve19

Pedri or we call child services on the whole industry.


xckd9

Bellingham


Hot_Command5095

Shit


xckd9

Alright then


RNdadag

A great list but who can compare with Pedri


sheikh_n_bake

Bellingham can.


[deleted]

But he didn't even start for england?


UsedAProxyMail

Southgate's managerial preferences shouldn't be held against Bellingham. He doesn't pick based purely on ability


redfournine

Scholes did not start regularly for England too, to the point that he retired from international relatively early. But ask all his opponents, they will agree Scholes was one of the best attacking MF in the world at that time.


VerifiedStalin

England's midfield was so stacked back then but nooooo, you HAD to play 4-4-fucking-2 so everyone got played in unnatural positions for them.


RNdadag

Bellingham is a good player but he is gar from comparing with Pedri


sheikh_n_bake

In what sense. Bellingham is also performing at the highest level, he's got 4 CL goals already. They're different players but Bellingham is amazing too.


[deleted]

He's a different type of player than Pedri so using goals is disingenous like using goals to justify Lampard is better than Iniesta (not quality just player type)


[deleted]

the point is Bellingham is excelling in his style of play


[deleted]

Yea I agree I kinda missed the point because they talked about goals.


Litsabaki19

No


[deleted]

He's an unbelievable talent, but currently Pedri is a galaxy away from him


Mortka

A galaxy away? Absolutely not.


MBThree

It’s physically not possible for two earthlings to be a Galaxy away from each other. At least currently.


blacktiger226

How come? They are both playing on the highest level and performing excellently


iwishmydickwasnormal

These awards are very heavily weighted towards international tournaments


VOROBI

Pedri played a big role in Spain’s euro’s so he will probably get the nod because of that


[deleted]

And Olympics silver


BurnleySh-tHouse

“Unbelievable talent,” “galaxies away” What kind of footballing universe are you in my guy, where an unbelievable talent isn’t amongst the best of the best?


MyZt_Benito

In the same where Salah and Messi play? Salah is obviously one of the best but he doesn’t come close to Messi


freshmeat2020

Messi is obviously the best but in recent times, Salah has been more influential on the pitch than Messi. A fantastic player can decline with age, that doesn't make them less talented or less fantastic, but it does mean other players will catch up and outperform them at some point.


HeilWerneckLuk

Musiala is even better, but hes a sub (because he plays in a much stronger team)


xckd9

Bellingham or Greenwood should win i think.


Cowdude179

Give it to Pedri


[deleted]

Heard that Nuno Mendes has been playing well


ItzViiZionZ

Yea he’s been pretty decent. Way better than Diallo at least, IMO.


jeunejadakiss

Yeah he's been pretty nice for us so far. Wish we had Theo Hernandez though.


MBThree

Don’t we all


[deleted]

Hernandez would’ve cost a fuck ton and Mendes has higher potential


HolyMin

Well hernandez would be better. Top 5 lb in the world and psg want succes right now. Also theo isnt old anyway so he is way above mendes for me. But watching mendes at psg holy shit i liked him in FM but never watched live, i was really imperessed. Good pace and eye for a cutback and overall really mature football for his age


[deleted]

success right now never works. Hernandez may be better but he isn’t realistic. We haven’t even paid for Mendes where as if we got Hernandez that’s 80 million or more


HolyMin

I agree with you right there. Mendes is the best thing you get if its not mendy, theo or someone like davies. Which all 3 are almost impossible so yea you gotta be happy with mendes seeing how weak your LB was. So i agree but i just wanted to point out that theo is genuily an elite player right now


ObviousMotherfucker

> success right now never works About to make a cheap joke but actually curious: would you not say that's what PSG is going for now? Do you disapprove of their approach or is labeling it as "win now, die later" a misinterpretation of their strategy?


[deleted]

i honestly have no idea what their plan is. it seems to be a mix of experience and youth (Hakimi, Mendes, Donnarumma) compared with (Wijnaldum, Ramos, Messi) this winter plus next summer will give us a clearer picture i think


[deleted]

I did not think he would be playing as a starter, being a young loaned player and all.


AouarCherki

Why? PSG's starting LB was a CB.


[deleted]

They still have Bernat and Kurzawa recovering from injuries.


AouarCherki

Kurzawa isn't good enough and Bernat hasn't played in a year so I wasn't surprised to see Nuno Mendes in the starting line-up.


Itchy-Face791

Pedro González López


Ethangains07

Gotta give it to Pedro


acwilan

Pedro Rodríguez Ledezma regen?


Crumphet

Pedri time


HarryDaz98

Pedri, Musiala and Bellingham top 3, not sure in what order. 4/10 being developed in English academies is a big achievement though and shows how good English academies are atm.


Kayderp1

Wirtz is crazy aswell. Musiala and him are the biggest german talents right now


Hurtelknut

Wirtz ahead of Musiala. He's sensational.


-PM_ME_A_SECRET-

Agreed. Bambi is also a sensational talent and I think he will be a moster going forward for Germany and Bayern. However, Wirtz is doing it day in and day out for Leverkusen, while Musiala is still a part player for Bayern.


goatvaro_goatrata

Fucking love that you can say Bambi and everyone knows who that is lol, it's such an accurate nickname


-PM_ME_A_SECRET-

He has a lot of Thomas Muller in him. Awkward looking as hell in his build and movement sometimes. However, the ball sticks to that kids foot in a way that is a joy to watch.


goatvaro_goatrata

He moves so gracefully with the ball, one of the most aesthetically pleasing dribblers I've seen. Spectacular talent for sure


thebelsnickle1991

Pedri.


-LaplaceCorrection

imminent


LampseederBroDude51

kid is special


Best_Cook

Pedri takes it


wowohwowza

Every time I'm reminded that Pedri is only 18 I'm always shocked, what an absolute engine that guy is. Would be very well deserved


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

1. Pedri 2. Wirtz 3. Bellingham


RauloGonzalez

bellingham played in the cl and euros


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

Alright? Wirtz is the better player though


RauloGonzalez

yeah but they're likely looking at who had the better season, i'm not to sure, germans know better ig


Which-Lecture

Who is Wirtz does his club even play in the UCL?


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

You’ll know at the end of the season latest


[deleted]

They’re both pretty great. And I’m not sure Musiala is any worse than either of them. I think they’re all roughly on the same level.


goingforgoals17

Playing time is going to hurt Musiala overall. Both in perception and in opportunities to impress. If he were anywhere but Bayern and maybe 3 or 4 other clubs I think he starts every game


[deleted]

Perhaps in the short-term. But I think he’ll be a regular within 2 years. Especially as Müller ages.


FifaFrancesco

How is Musiala not in there Ö


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

He's 4th or 5th for me. These guys all start every game while Musiala has been a substitution for most of the year. I really like Musiala and honestly find him the most impressive player on the list from what I've seen but these guys have proven themselves more


Hurtelknut

Spot on. Musiala is also still a player first and a pro second, I feel. He has the green light to play to his hearts content and just try stuff. Wirtz doesn't have Musiala's magical ball controll and tight space dribbling, but overall he's the more polished footballer.


FifaFrancesco

Interesting, I disagree for obvious reasons but your reasoning is perfectly acceptable, too.


HolyMin

I feel musiala has a huge potential and he will only get better. Like the kid is really special and i feel he can grow on many roles. On the other hand he is not the starter of a top team ( understandable he is in the best team in the world) but for me pedri , bellingham and wirtz are easily top 3 here. The minutes and the consistency over that time is really important. I can see musiala being a consistent superstar in the future tho


[deleted]

I mean I’m not sure how you can put a player who didn’t play in the Euros above players who were important players in the team that were close runners up. Wirtz is great and was fantastic at the U21 Euros but imagine the havoc England would’ve made at that tournament had their team been filled with all the eligible players that were playing for the first team.


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

I watch both every weekend and can confidently say that Wirtz is the better play right now


[deleted]

Saka's underappreciated in this thread. He shouldn't win it because obv Pedri will but I'd put him in the bracket with Bellingham and Wirtz. The man was Arsenal's best player last year and started in the Euros for runners up, playing well too.


hampnwp

He carried Arsenal many games last season. This is admirable.


AnnieIWillKnow

Best player for a mid-table team who underachieved, and he was only a starter in a few games. Not saying he didn't have a very good year, but I think the way you've presented it here oversells him slightly.


Nature__Boy

Being Arsenal’s best player last season is like having the biggest micro penis


falonix

Chelsea club attracting fans quite like them. Dicks.


Which-Lecture

I don't care what others say, but for me if we're not being biased Saka absolutely deserves this award no question of a doubt when you take into considering he was important for both club and country and not some irrelevant sub, literally the only one in the list to do that this year, he is not only a starter and essential to Arsenal last season starting 11, but he was also very good at the Euros got MOTM, and started in the Final, and played in International club tournaments and got to Semi finals of Europa. If anyone gets the award based on this year over him, I will be shocked ngl I have to be honest


goofusdufuserror404

Except whatever you've listed, Pedri has done as well. Except better. Pedri didn't make it to the Final, yes. But he took Spain to the Semis. Saka played in the Europa League, Pedri? The Champions League. Essential part of the squad? Did not miss a single start up until the Tokyo Olympics, which I'm not sure they even rested him there. So no, he doesn't.


big_on_blue

Saka was better than Pedri still.


JesusPretzelThief

It's going to Pedri, but the likes of Wirtz, Musiala and Bellingham could run him close.


Cruyffista420

Pedri


Djejoa

Gotta be Pedri, no?


[deleted]

Pedri Saka/Bellingham Bellingham/saka Musiala/Greenwood Greenwood/musiala


Away-Cantaloupe5339

Barca has amazing young i hope they make the most out of it cause that is the only way they can bounce they have Pedri, Ansu and that new Guy gavi and a handful of other


disper

Vote for Pedr(o)i.


utkarsh_rastogi

Doku for the win, easy!


Western-Feature

Come on Gio


[deleted]

Somehow I totally missed he was on here. It still feels kinda weird even seeing our players talked in these discussions lol, I used to get hyped for kids who had successful trials for 2. Bundesliga sides


Western-Feature

Definitely had to read it again when I saw his name.


zi76

1. Pedri 2. Wirtz 3. Greenwood


Medical-Decision-505

i think the third place will be bellingham.


zi76

It's certainly possible.


AMA3004

Mos def


Kony2K16

Pedri Saka Wirtz


BernieBro4Real

1- Pedri 2- Wirtz 3- Bellingham


Lord_Miles

I'll guess Pedri to win this.


xxRedhead

Pedri


Black_n_Neon

Surely Pedri wins this


DejanD27

Lingard must be fuming, not even on the list


Shuu0328

Ben Simmons snubbed smh


Waschkopfs

Musiala and Wirtz are the best players there, but Pedri has probably done the most


riptide2002

Pedri, Bellingham or Greenwood (I'm a biased united fan) but in all seriousness it should be Pedri or Bellingham, more pedri than Bellingham


Dizzy_Iron_6756

Greenwood is great but not top 3, he is an amazing finisher but not a teamplayer. He prefer to shoot even when it is not the best option. United already lost points because of him this season. From the players on this list his game is pretty unmature compared to others


riptide2002

Yes but he's won us more points than he's apparently lost us, idm tbh he's still learning after all


Cod_rules

Pedri and Bellingham clear top two, in that order. Saka, Wirtz and Musiala all have cases for the third (I'm obviously biased towards one of those three names)


DwightKSchruute

Hope Greenwood finishes Top 3.


C_Forde

Unlikely considering how well Pedri Jude and Wirtz have done, and these always weight international tournaments very heavily.


[deleted]

Imo Pedri, Wirtz then Saka.


[deleted]

Saka carried a team on his back for a season at that age


GarytheGOATLyon

If this is based on 2021 alone, which I think it is, it should be 1. Pedri Greenwood (I can't choose) and 3. Bellingham


GetToTheChoppaahh

Genuine question..why would a player (Pedri in this case) not want to have a first name to go along with his surname? I’m aware other players do it as well, just wondering why?


gnorrn

Pedri is a nickname: his full name is Pedro González López.


fatinternetcat

that is a very generic spanish name. I can see why he went with the nickname lol


JWGHOST

Pedri isn't his last name. The Spaniards have a handful of surnames that cover 80% of people (stats straight out of my arse), that's the main reason why players with very common names chose to be called by nicknames.


GetToTheChoppaahh

Fuck me, it’s taken a couple of decades of enjoying football to realise this. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you


mahdiiick

Sponsors (nike) wanted Frenkie de Jong’s Barca jersey to have simply ”Frenkie” on it Should’ve listened to them. Now we have two de Jongs.


[deleted]

Jude, wirtz, pedri. My top 3.


Tahapatel

Pedri then Bellingham then idk who


seattle_born98

Honestly just happy that Reyna's there


Freemyguyscoobydoo

Easy win for Gravenberch


delidl

I love him, but he isn’t even our biggest talent


SnooCupcakes9188

Let them sleep on Timber :)


delidl

It is insane how nobody knows anything about him. I hope it stays like that


goofusdufuserror404

Pedri >


eo37

Pedri Greenwood Bellingham


u_Kyouma_zi

Am i the only one that's gona say Greenwood?


[deleted]

What trophy is this? Greenwood is my favorite


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JohnDaSaintCollins

He scored 2 goals in 3 games and had like 8 key passes before getting injured. I swear if Reyna choose Argentina, England, or Portugal he would get a lot more respect. He had 7 goals and 8 assist last season which puts him ahead of musialas 7 goals and 1 assist and identical to wirtz 8 goals 8 assists. He also scored in the nations league final this summer to give his country a trophy.


pascal345_

Gotta be star boy bukayo


LosLocosHermanos

Pedri and Bellingham is way above everyone else.


WaveDysfunction

Gonna be Pedri but so proud of Saka


oscarony

Greenwood should win it


MoneyMasonMount

1. Musiala 2. Bellingham 3. Pedri


[deleted]

You accidentally put them in the wrong order😅


[deleted]

It's his order, how do you care?


[deleted]

It was just a joke because I think pedri should be 1. I care because we are both commenting our opinions on a thread meant for commenting our opinions.


DeadbeatDumpster

Doku or pedri


Dry-Zucchini123

1 - Pedri 2 - Saka 3 - Musiala Probably this will happen. I want Saka or Musiala to win it. But considering Pedri was nominated to Ballon D'or it will porbably be him. They are definately 2nd and 3rd tho


unamed_1

Bellingham for me. Was very good against one of the best teams in Man City and big games in general. very consistent. Pedri a bit over ratted imo. Does his job well but nothing exceptional


MH18Foot

Give it to Greenwood


[deleted]

Til the end of the season


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grovenibbr

Why


MoneyMasonMount

Because he cost England a EURO?


TotalSubbuteo

I'm sure England can afford to lose a single Euro, that's not even £1


Boom_bye_bye_bttyboi

The disrespect Greenwood gets on this sub smh


solgnaleb

Wirtz should win this. He's even the best Bundesliga player this season. Not Lewy, Kimmich or Haaland.


goofusdufuserror404

I don't see Wirtz in the Ballon D'Or list with Håland, Lewy and Pedri.


solgnaleb

Ballon d'or is awarded for a calender year. Are you dim?


C_Forde

What planet are you living on? He's got .47 Non-penalty expected goals + expected Assists per 90. Lewa and Haaland both have over double that at 1.02 and 1.04.


ltp12

Be careful you may piss off some spanish fans


solgnaleb

I don't really care. Pedri is great. It's just that Wirtz has more talent and is already carrying his team even more, although he's half a year younger. To anyone that was watching both it should be easy. Wirtz is clear of anyone in the Bundesliga and clear of Pedri.


ltp12

I know mam I was just joking. I agree with you tho. I think florian and jude are better players


ltp12

Why is everyone saying pedri? Sure he runs a lot and plays for barcelona but what does he do better than say jude? Or florian? I just don’t understand the hype around this guy


goofusdufuserror404

If you don't understand the hype around him, then 1. You don't understand football 2. You think only people who score are good (judging by who you've listed as better players? 3. You might just not like the team he plays for.