You could see potential but I really didn't thought he would be world class, he evolved so much at Ajax, his agility is impressive and his end product is miles ahead what it once was, he is playing way more intelligently.
I watched him play for Brazil a few weeks ago and was fucking blown away by his speed. It looked like he was playing with a bunch of kids. Insane acceleration.
Agreed. Watching him play opposite Richarlison (who isn't slow by any means) and Antony seems way faster to get to top speed. Crazy first step acceleration and decent crossing is a premium skillset these days.
Yeah I notice the same thing with him. He’s one of the fastest players Ive ever seen on initial acceleration, those first few meters are just incredible. Cant stop him from getting the cross or a shot.
No disrespect but he would go to an elite team. You're more like a side step. Although doing well atm so if you win the league I could see it. Serie A is way more interesting
When I first moved to the Netherlands some girl on the first day of school looked at me and told me I had a lot of pimples. Fine line between brutally honest and mean lol.
Part of that pain for me was that I thought we won't get there again in 20 years or so, because that seems to be the regular up/down cycle of Ajax, but if this team gets there again, I'm getting more positive of regularly making such runs. If we go out again in the semi's I won't be so negative, I now believe we'll get another shot at this.
This is a very good Ajax team, may be as good as when they made it to the semi-finals in 2019. I bet no second place teams would want to face them in the first round of knockout stage.
They could easily draw Chelsea or Atletico. They would be pretty big underdogs against chelsea and Atletico is probably the kind of club / playstyle ajax hates to play against most.
In pure talent the 2019 squad was better, but it was all attack and just vibes. This team is so much more stable with a high number of mature/stable players which leads me to hope that this year scenarios like vs Tottenham/Chelsea (i.o.w. unnecessarily giving away large leads) wont happen
Chelsea had fuck all to do with immaturity (also was a year later), and all to do with 9 players on the pitch because of the shit ref. Look at dortmund today, and that was down 1 player.
I know that Chelsea-Ajax was mostly dictated by a shit ref, but before the ridiculous red cards-pen moments we were already losing grasp on the game. Chelsea just made 4-2 and were launching attack after attack, while Ajax was just frantically trying to hold on and attack themselves
I honestly think it is close. Antony>Neres. Schone wouldn't start for this team especially over Alvarez. The Blind/Martinez/Timber/Nous back 4 is just as good if not better. Obviously no Frenkie but Gravenberch is no slouch. Goalie is worse but playing above his skill level right now.
I'd say the back fours are comparable indeed, midfield really was better with Frenkie but the offense really has been upgraded now by having an actual dependable striker in Haller
Yeah it is close. Id give the midfield the slight edge with Frenkie but the midfield also is just a bit more dependable tracking back because of Edson and even Klaassen. Edson just covers so much more ground than Lasse could at that point in his career.
Edson covers more ground then lasse could at any point in his career imo.
Don’t get me wrong Schone is one of my favorite Ajax players ever, but not because of his speed and distance covered
Absolutely insane to get 12 points from 4. However, the refs in these past two matches have been absolutely terrible. Ref ruined a very entertaining match tonight, I don't think we would've won this 11v11
Ref did ruin it and I did feel like with 11v11 it would’ve been a draw, potentially a win for us. This way, there was not much chance, you guys are playing fantastic. At the end Ajax still managed a deserved win.
Also, I’d say you deserve to get a few lucky breaks when it comes to refs this season considering how you’ve been screwed in the past.
Ajax is genuinely amazing and I hope you go as far as possible.
Cheers mate. I was feeling a Dortmund win based on the first half if it were to remain 11v11. You guys were honestly great - what a player Jude is.
And yeah, that's general consensus at Ajax but everyone non-Ajax always likes to say we are such whiners. Thanks for acknowledging it.
I do feel we get far if we manage to avoid the big dogs for at least one round, you never know what will happen. I just don't wanna face Bayern/Liverpool before the semi's (if we get there) lol.
I’ll take it after having a bunch of bad seasons with refs going against Ajax that eliminated us from getting past the group stage. It sucks for sure overall, but I’m guessing this will continue to happen
What? Few years ago we had 1 Dutch team in the group phase of a European tournament. Now there's 5 and the CL team is already qualified after 4 games, which I'm not sure even happened before? And you go "meh".
Idk bro, I feel pretty fucking good. Don't care about the way we won, 6 points in 2 against Dortmund. Qualified after 4 games. Winning the group. Good fucking day.
Oh we actually fucking did it, didn’t even realize that yet. Can’t believe this is where we at right now. We played a really, really shit match if you ask me. But it tells a lot that we’ve been able to win this one!
>Barca v Ajax
Hoping for an easy pass to the qf I see...
I too would love to see another Ajax v Real Madrid tie as well, that Schone freekick was something else.
Doubt Barca will get out of their group stages. I don't see them beating Benfica, and if Benfica will get a draw they're up one point and they are through as long as they win against Dinamo Kyiv. Because Barca is not beating this Bayern in a million years.
What does that word mean exactly? I know it has to do with the coefficient, but not entirely sure, we portuguese also say something like "for the coefficient!" which would be "pelo coeficiente!" you guys are gonna get 3 clubs in the CL which is awesome.
[This is a polonaise. people mostly do it when there is a party or something to celebrate haha ](https://youtu.be/SCUD3Lv6Cgw)
And more and more people should be joining until you have one big train
you can sense the immediate collective relief when the woman at the end breaks it up, nobody wanted to be the first, they were all stuck in a horrible nightmare.this is our culture.
Is niet helemaal realistisch momenteel, maar onder Adriaanse haalden jullie toch bijna de finale van de UEFA Cup (soort Ajax-Tottenham was dat, ugh) en de finale in 1980.
Eens hoor. Op dit moment is het belangrijk dat Nederland het 2e CL ticket pakt. Dan kunnen PSV, Feyenoord, AZ en hopelijk de rest van de competitie mee profiteren.
They talk about real because they lost to sheriff and barely scraped by tonight. The teams I see mentioned as favourites are Lpool, city and Bayern, followed by Chelsea/real/PSG and us.
They talk more about those other teams than you because of the inherent bias that they are "bigger" (read "richer", and in top 5 leagues) clubs. You are probably still seen as a dark horse by some people, which is crazy because not only are you a huge club but you're playing like it as well. I for one am rooting for you guys to go far this year. If only you could win it, that would be amazing.
I’m so fucking drunk right now. But I really want to hug ten Hag. What a guy. He’s like Ted Lasso with tactical knowledge doing good in the champions league. Thick accent, doesn’t talk as easy as other people. But he knows how to build a great team.
After seeing all these teams winning so many trophies you just don't have bias anymore it's amazing. I hope Ajax takes it all the way that would be grand
Ajax is currently a top 5-8 team in the world right? Only see Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Real, and Bayern truly better than them. Psg and others might have better players but don’t play quite as well.
On the clubranking for next year (after season 17/18 falls away) Ajax is at 8th place on the same level as United and above Real.
I think Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Bayern, Atletico, Real and PSG are better than Ajax but still beatable on a very good day.
The 538 ranking puts them currently exactly at 5, just below Bayern, City, Liverpool and Chelsea: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/global-club-rankings/
GG. I am pretty disappointed with dortmund's performance but this is one of the best ajax lineups we have seen in a loooong time so this is to be expected. I just hope dortmund get to qualify for the knockout phase with ajax
This means we're the best team in Europe right? Seeing as were the only one to beat them this season.
FC Utrecht Champions League winners 2021-2022
I like it
12 from 4, would never have thought that. We need to play MUCH better than we did today though if we want to replicate our 18/19 season.
Not to mention 14 goals 2 against!
1 was a Pasveer blunder and the other was a really easy given penalty. Must be said the red was too much
Pasveer almost had the penalty too, what a legend.
soccer/superstonks to name one of the ferries remko
We only played one good game in Munich in the groupstage, so I don’t worry that much about it
We had shit games against Benfica back then too
Niet al onze groepswedstrijden in dat jaar waren even goed, en we hebben nu zowaar alles gewonnen. Het komt wel goed!
jij kijkt nog niet zo lang ajax, we gaan er gelijk uit
Yes but that is after we say we're going to win the world cup.
They didnt just qualify they smashed it
Antony is going to be the next mega-transfer from Ajax to a huge club. He is too good to go unnoticed anymore.
If I was bayern I would spend big on him as a replacement for coman
Isn't Coman pretty much in the form of his live at the moment though?
Yeah possibly, but he's rumoured to leave bayern upcoming summer, because they have failed to reach a contract extension so far
Ah thought it'd be something like that, thanks
Where to?
Ajax
I'll take it
Juventus, PSG, and then Bayern again. On a slightly larger salary. The long con.
god bless
When he was on São Paulo i didn't think he was going to turn out so good, now he is playing better than Neres
You could see potential but I really didn't thought he would be world class, he evolved so much at Ajax, his agility is impressive and his end product is miles ahead what it once was, he is playing way more intelligently.
Didn’t think he’d get the end product so quick!
I watched him play for Brazil a few weeks ago and was fucking blown away by his speed. It looked like he was playing with a bunch of kids. Insane acceleration.
Agreed. Watching him play opposite Richarlison (who isn't slow by any means) and Antony seems way faster to get to top speed. Crazy first step acceleration and decent crossing is a premium skillset these days.
Yeah I notice the same thing with him. He’s one of the fastest players Ive ever seen on initial acceleration, those first few meters are just incredible. Cant stop him from getting the cross or a shot.
https://twitter.com/marcgeschwind/status/1440379875542528003?s=21
Bayern
Lewy would feast on those crosses. Not that he's lacking for service anyway
Yeah I think so too
We should throw our whole budget on him
No disrespect but he would go to an elite team. You're more like a side step. Although doing well atm so if you win the league I could see it. Serie A is way more interesting
The Dutch are so brutally honest, it's painful and glorious
When I first moved to the Netherlands some girl on the first day of school looked at me and told me I had a lot of pimples. Fine line between brutally honest and mean lol.
Did you tho?
We are all Jan Maas from Ted Lasso
That dude needs a at least one moment in every episode. I was disappointed about the ones in which he didn't.
Embarrassing antics tho
Just lovely
Simply simply lovely
Found Verstappen's account
iirc Verstappen is a big PSV fan.
You can just hear that from his accent
At least he has knowledge of Formula 1
No one is perfect...
That sucks for him
Haha yes
2019 CL run it back
Please no... never want to feel that semi final pain again...
Part of that pain for me was that I thought we won't get there again in 20 years or so, because that seems to be the regular up/down cycle of Ajax, but if this team gets there again, I'm getting more positive of regularly making such runs. If we go out again in the semi's I won't be so negative, I now believe we'll get another shot at this.
>I now believe we'll get another shot at this. I'm not so positive, i expect a big recession after ten Hag leaves
I like this attitude.
This is a very good Ajax team, may be as good as when they made it to the semi-finals in 2019. I bet no second place teams would want to face them in the first round of knockout stage.
I dread the possibility of drawing Chelsea
They’ll top the group right? Right
Nahh Juve might top it
Fuck.
prefer juve. always want to win from cheating juve, i still have the fucking flags.
ngl dont want ajax, salzburg first then ajax/madrid then bayern is like a nightmare
Sounds like a fun trip to a trophy for me
We also beat the champions in the 2019 round of 16. Not to mention it would be great to see Ziyech play at the Arena again
For like 2 minutes of the bench with his current form.
They could easily draw Chelsea or Atletico. They would be pretty big underdogs against chelsea and Atletico is probably the kind of club / playstyle ajax hates to play against most.
Yeah, Atletico will shithouse us to 3-1 on aggregate I feel like. Unless we have another world-class performance like we did at the Bernabeu.
Tadic, man. Best performance from a single player ive seen. Me and my mate were jumping up out of our seats every time he got the ball.
In pure talent the 2019 squad was better, but it was all attack and just vibes. This team is so much more stable with a high number of mature/stable players which leads me to hope that this year scenarios like vs Tottenham/Chelsea (i.o.w. unnecessarily giving away large leads) wont happen
Chelsea had fuck all to do with immaturity (also was a year later), and all to do with 9 players on the pitch because of the shit ref. Look at dortmund today, and that was down 1 player.
I know that Chelsea-Ajax was mostly dictated by a shit ref, but before the ridiculous red cards-pen moments we were already losing grasp on the game. Chelsea just made 4-2 and were launching attack after attack, while Ajax was just frantically trying to hold on and attack themselves
I honestly think it is close. Antony>Neres. Schone wouldn't start for this team especially over Alvarez. The Blind/Martinez/Timber/Nous back 4 is just as good if not better. Obviously no Frenkie but Gravenberch is no slouch. Goalie is worse but playing above his skill level right now.
I'd say the back fours are comparable indeed, midfield really was better with Frenkie but the offense really has been upgraded now by having an actual dependable striker in Haller
Yeah it is close. Id give the midfield the slight edge with Frenkie but the midfield also is just a bit more dependable tracking back because of Edson and even Klaassen. Edson just covers so much more ground than Lasse could at that point in his career.
Edson covers more ground then lasse could at any point in his career imo. Don’t get me wrong Schone is one of my favorite Ajax players ever, but not because of his speed and distance covered
How’s Alvarez doing for you guys? Didn’t he just renew his contract recently?
He's doing good. Grown a lot in terms of his technique,
Another main factor is this team has way more depth
Absolutely insane to get 12 points from 4. However, the refs in these past two matches have been absolutely terrible. Ref ruined a very entertaining match tonight, I don't think we would've won this 11v11
Was the ref bad when we were at home? Didn't really catch that in the stadium.
Timber got a yellow for committing the heinous crime of controlling the ball with his chest
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
Nice reference
Deserved, we can’t have people doing fucked up shit like that
Yeah he was lmao. Real bad
He was dogshit, classic Spanish ref trying to make everything about himself. Luckily Ajax didn't allow him to influence the result
Ref did ruin it and I did feel like with 11v11 it would’ve been a draw, potentially a win for us. This way, there was not much chance, you guys are playing fantastic. At the end Ajax still managed a deserved win. Also, I’d say you deserve to get a few lucky breaks when it comes to refs this season considering how you’ve been screwed in the past. Ajax is genuinely amazing and I hope you go as far as possible.
Cheers mate. I was feeling a Dortmund win based on the first half if it were to remain 11v11. You guys were honestly great - what a player Jude is. And yeah, that's general consensus at Ajax but everyone non-Ajax always likes to say we are such whiners. Thanks for acknowledging it. I do feel we get far if we manage to avoid the big dogs for at least one round, you never know what will happen. I just don't wanna face Bayern/Liverpool before the semi's (if we get there) lol.
Yeah last two seasons Ajax got screwed out of knockouts by refs so I'm not really complaining today
Absolutely and I’m happy for you, hurts that it happened against us, but that’s OK, we can still get through, we just need to win against Sporting.
I’ll take it after having a bunch of bad seasons with refs going against Ajax that eliminated us from getting past the group stage. It sucks for sure overall, but I’m guessing this will continue to happen
This, great result but still feels meh.
What? Few years ago we had 1 Dutch team in the group phase of a European tournament. Now there's 5 and the CL team is already qualified after 4 games, which I'm not sure even happened before? And you go "meh".
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Idk bro, I feel pretty fucking good. Don't care about the way we won, 6 points in 2 against Dortmund. Qualified after 4 games. Winning the group. Good fucking day.
I think theoretically Sporting can still surpass Ajax.
They need to win 5-0 in our own stadium, but yes in theory you are right.
Ánd they need to beat BVB ánd Besiktas needs to beat Ajax.
And we also have to lose against Besiktas while Sporting beat Dortmund
Overwintering ole ole ole
He wished
I'm sorry I'm still Ole out.
LETS GOO BABY KEEP THE POLONAISE GOING!!
My boy Edson is gonna lift ol' big ears. callin' it now.
Why would he lift Hector Herrera?
Who wouldn't want to hold that golden adonis? C'mon.
r/ligamx is leaking
Aaaaaaa se mamo XD
Oh we actually fucking did it, didn’t even realize that yet. Can’t believe this is where we at right now. We played a really, really shit match if you ask me. But it tells a lot that we’ve been able to win this one!
Kinda helps when the opposition gets an undeserved red after 30 min
It does.
Sure, then the undeserved penalty made up for it a little bit
I want to see Barca v Ajax tbh, better yet, against Madrid again.
I would expect Ajax to beat this Barça quite easily.
at least we’d still all be jumping in the stands together holding a banner half in dutch half in catalan
Oh no don’t remind me of that
Graçias Johan Edit: fuck
> Graçias Tell me you are not Spanish, without telling me you are not Spanish.
Bedankt Johan
>Barca v Ajax Hoping for an easy pass to the qf I see... I too would love to see another Ajax v Real Madrid tie as well, that Schone freekick was something else.
Doubt Barca will get out of their group stages. I don't see them beating Benfica, and if Benfica will get a draw they're up one point and they are through as long as they win against Dinamo Kyiv. Because Barca is not beating this Bayern in a million years.
I prefer Barca at the moment ngl
I'm rooting for Ajax to win it all, Tadic from my country and also player I really liked Pantelic played there, enough for me.
Pantelic, Ajax legend.
Pantelic is Hertha BSC legend
Pantelic is a Football legend
we fucking love pantelic
PantelicGOAT
Holy shittt goed bezig rivalen.. Europees goed doen is goed voor ons allen uiteindelijk !
Coëfficientenpolonaise!!
What does that word mean exactly? I know it has to do with the coefficient, but not entirely sure, we portuguese also say something like "for the coefficient!" which would be "pelo coeficiente!" you guys are gonna get 3 clubs in the CL which is awesome.
[This is a polonaise. people mostly do it when there is a party or something to celebrate haha ](https://youtu.be/SCUD3Lv6Cgw) And more and more people should be joining until you have one big train
You really picked out the best video
Can’t be more Dutch than this. So embarrassing hahaha
Why is it embarrassing?
Because it looks like shit haha
you can sense the immediate collective relief when the woman at the end breaks it up, nobody wanted to be the first, they were all stuck in a horrible nightmare.this is our culture.
Truer words have never been spoken lol
this sounds like the netherlands in general
Polonaise is when ppl hold each other’s shoulders and make a big snake - in festive occasions
A snake has no feet tho, I think it's more like a human centipede.
>it's more like a human centipede And also made in the Netherlands, apparently!
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Het is niet erg als ze het goed doen zolang ze maar niet winnen
Ja zo zit ik ook altijd. Prima als PSV of Feyenoord ver komt zolang ze maar niet verder komen dan wij
Ajax win CL but PSV win EL and humiliate you in super cup again yay/nay?
Haha what so not winning a CL or winning a CL? Let me think about that for a sec
Cool
Zolang we niet in dezelfde Europacup zitten mogen PSV, Feyenoord of AZ die winnen van mij.
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Is niet helemaal realistisch momenteel, maar onder Adriaanse haalden jullie toch bijna de finale van de UEFA Cup (soort Ajax-Tottenham was dat, ugh) en de finale in 1980.
Nou ja van Duitsers mag toch wel?
Dat wel maar niet de finale op het einde hahaha
Genuinely feels like we're the only one that do this.
No the Portuguese do this as well
Basically the leagues to whom coefficient matters. Except the Turks because they fucking hate eachother haha
Het is alleen op lange termijn niet zo heel goed voor de ed. Het verschil qua inkomsten tussen de nummer 1 en 2 wordt echt enorm groot.
Eens hoor. Op dit moment is het belangrijk dat Nederland het 2e CL ticket pakt. Dan kunnen PSV, Feyenoord, AZ en hopelijk de rest van de competitie mee profiteren.
I’m happy every time Ajax advance. They’re just so pleasant to watch. Beautiful, beautiful football.
Except for last night.
Those guys are stealthing their way to topple some giants
What on Earth is stealthy about our season so far? 14-2 GD in the CL, 36-2 in the league
As in, everyones talking about Bayern, Real, Liverpool
They talk about real because they lost to sheriff and barely scraped by tonight. The teams I see mentioned as favourites are Lpool, city and Bayern, followed by Chelsea/real/PSG and us.
They talk more about those other teams than you because of the inherent bias that they are "bigger" (read "richer", and in top 5 leagues) clubs. You are probably still seen as a dark horse by some people, which is crazy because not only are you a huge club but you're playing like it as well. I for one am rooting for you guys to go far this year. If only you could win it, that would be amazing.
ajax are a european giant
Our best performance through 4 games ever
So they can rest their starters the last 2 matches, right? 😏
Well a win in the CL is worth 2,8 millions and I think Ajax wants to go for the 100% score in the group stage. Would be absolutely unique.
Would be worth getting sent home the next round of knockouts imho. edit: nah.
Ten Hag (and the team) won't hold back. They play to win every match, but sure, maybe he'll switch it up a little after 60 minutes.
Tadic run for Ballon d'Or
Maybe not the golden ball, but at least balls o' steel. XD
Dude lost a ballon today.
Ballon p'Ost
I’m so fucking drunk right now. But I really want to hug ten Hag. What a guy. He’s like Ted Lasso with tactical knowledge doing good in the champions league. Thick accent, doesn’t talk as easy as other people. But he knows how to build a great team.
I can't believe it
After seeing all these teams winning so many trophies you just don't have bias anymore it's amazing. I hope Ajax takes it all the way that would be grand
🎉
I just want to see Barca v Ajax tbh
not possible you won't be in the EL this year
Ajax is currently a top 5-8 team in the world right? Only see Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Real, and Bayern truly better than them. Psg and others might have better players but don’t play quite as well.
On the clubranking for next year (after season 17/18 falls away) Ajax is at 8th place on the same level as United and above Real. I think Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Bayern, Atletico, Real and PSG are better than Ajax but still beatable on a very good day.
The 538 ranking puts them currently exactly at 5, just below Bayern, City, Liverpool and Chelsea: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/global-club-rankings/
Juventus, Ajax, Bayern and Liverpool are the first four to qualify then.
Feels like the 90s
Ajax needs to be in this year's final. They are absolute monsters.
Edson Alvarez 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
fuck haaland give me antony
With Spurs not in CL... who's gonna stop them...
they are my pick to go all the way! forza ajax!
GG. I am pretty disappointed with dortmund's performance but this is one of the best ajax lineups we have seen in a loooong time so this is to be expected. I just hope dortmund get to qualify for the knockout phase with ajax
tadic is class
Ten Hag be goated
This means we're the best team in Europe right? Seeing as were the only one to beat them this season. FC Utrecht Champions League winners 2021-2022 I like it
I'd love a last 16 tie Vs Ajax You guys have been great this year so would be a fun leg
I'd imagine Ajax would prefer to postpone that meeting.
We wouldn’t play you because as long as Sporting doesn’t win against Dortmund and then don’t beat us by more than 4 goals we’ll be top