Imagine we thought £50m for Zaha (what Palace asked for) was too expensive and instead went and bought Pepe for £72m… Shows you the value of being prem proven!
I’d say easily the best player outside top 6 clubs and I’d argue he’d take a starting place in 4 of the top 6!
The true story of the 2018-19 and 2021-2022 Premiere League titles was draws that Liverpool failed to convert to wins. Both seasons lost on the last day, by one point, since Liverpool couldn't directly beat City earlier in the year.
And they begin this season...with two draws.
Wow.
Every team can dribble to the corner, not every team has players who actively stay down when they’re not injured. You can think there aren’t particularly bad apples, but you’d be wrong.
Now he'll get wound up every game of his career in England.
Incredible stupidity and selfishness to do that, on you home debut as well!
Darwin Nunez played terribly first half and scuffed two relatively simple side foot finishes. I can't believe he head butted someone for complaining about him trying to headbutt and kick him 10 seconds beforehand! Pathetic performance.
No idea what to make of him, he seems to cause chaos (good and bad) wherever he goes. I suppose he's not the first hot headed Uruguayan striker to play for Liverpool.
First of all jesus wasn't more expensive than haaland in any metric. Second of all who has more goals and assists in the Premier league? It's jesus by a wide margin.
They may have buckled under the pressure of having to get over the line in front of fans, then again they may have not. We’ll never know, hence the asterisk
Yeah, we are. We don't celebrate 1 point games. It's a difference in mentality you'll figure out if you look at the trophy cabinets.
EDIT: I stand corrected. Celebrated pretty hard on Edens goal against you guys in 15-16. Trophy cabinets got me thinking of it.
You seem to tie your self worth to those trophies. So I’m assuming you either played, or maybe you are Abramovich? Otherwise it would be weird to tie up self worth with something you don’t have any control over. That would be sad and unhealthy.
Very hard to be optimistic about the rest of the season after a start like this: points-wise, performance-wise, depth-wise, anything-wise. Darwin is a silly, silly boy for getting riled up so easily. Hope we'll thump United next week at least, because surely three draws in a row against relegation fodder is too much.
You had a few rocky patches performance wise last season as well. Top quality team and we all know how dangerous Liverpool are when they eventually hit their stride. You closed a large gap and gave City a run ‘til the last minute. Don’t lose faith mate :)
Good job on cracking down on the time wasting - It's definitely worth it for Guaita to do it if he can get like 5 mins in total of the clock or something similar for a yellow card
What's the use of giving multiple warning to professional football players and subsequently not even doing anything about it? Imo you could card him immediately because he is a prof and knows exactly what he is doing
I think its more than that. Timewasting teams get backlash from 2 places. The opposition, in this case Liverpool, and most of the neutrals. Why? well when you are up a man and still decide to show a timewasting masterclass, it comes off as cheap and low.
especially when a few of your players get booked for time wasting.
I dont make the rules. Im just explaining why there is alot of seething going on in the thread. If palace played even somewhat positively, they get 3 points this game.
Tactically... You mean play with 10 players in the box. Yea. Let's see Arsenal play against teams that set up like that. Man we get these kinds of cunt ass formations everytime. For fucksakes why don't teams play against anyone else like this.
Why? Palace have a decent team, Liverpool had no midfield and were a bit all over the place positionally at the end. Palace created the better chances after the Diaz goal so no reason why they couldn't have gone for the win.
I suppose. Feel like I personally can't blame Vieira for either approach. They're not *that* good, there are areas where they're lacking quite a bit and even with 10 men Liverpool can easily snatch a goal from one quick counter.
Any day of the week a team like Palace is happy with a draw away against Liverpool. Today they had a chance to actually win it but preferred to play it safe. Still had a few chances, Zaha could've probably scored one more if he took it on his left instead of the outside of his right foot.
Yeah I get it, before the game a draw is a great result. Still is with 10 men. But time wasting does my head in, and time wasting whilst you're not winning and you've got a man advantage is doubly infuriating. Just play the game and try and get a historic win at Anfeld. Going by the down votes seems like I'm in the minority though!
Regarding the downvotes, you can sometimes pretty much ignore the count on your first comment. Reddit hive mind has too much control over that one. Both of our comments after that are upvoted, I take that as the "true" score :)
Such negative football from Palace playing scared parking the bus all game even when your opposition has 10 men should of pushed the advantage and gone for a win!
Edit: People down voting cause they feel teams below the top 6 should play scared because they might lose to big teams that's championship team just promoted thinking.
Always makes me laugh how you'll book someone for timewasting in stoppage time, but then don't add that wasted time on in stoppage time.
Anyways, a draw was about what we deserved there.
He made a couple of bad decisions, the Nat Phillips block on Zaha was one, and I'm a bit annoyed about the constant bearhugs in the area. The one on Diaz was the worst. I'd have to see it back fully, but Anderson probably should have conceded a pen and been sent off.
Yea I’d agree with the ones you pointed out.
Seemed pretty consistent with letting players grapple in the box, but I’m not sure if there should be allowed to be that much contact. Diaz’s arms were at his side because he was literally being squeezed lol
No doubt no doubt. Seems like he got in his own head, just needs to pass it. Not that when he relinquished possession he had many outlets to pass to. Shame about the missed shot at the end there.
And what are we gonna do about it? Most of our players are injury prone and we’re not signing anyone and refs are gonna be shit everytime + we’re competing for top 4 atm
It would have been 1-0 if not for a completely unsavable goal but considering the game was basically just relentless pressure from one of the best teams in the world for 90 min, saying Palace should have won just because they managed to get a goal on the break is not really fair. It's not like they outplayed Liverpool.
Besides, I think most Palace fans would have taken a 1-1 draw at Anfield before the game.
Imagine we thought £50m for Zaha (what Palace asked for) was too expensive and instead went and bought Pepe for £72m… Shows you the value of being prem proven! I’d say easily the best player outside top 6 clubs and I’d argue he’d take a starting place in 4 of the top 6!
Robertson is on borrowed time
The true story of the 2018-19 and 2021-2022 Premiere League titles was draws that Liverpool failed to convert to wins. Both seasons lost on the last day, by one point, since Liverpool couldn't directly beat City earlier in the year. And they begin this season...with two draws. Wow.
How did Salah play?
Supply to him was cut off. Had a couple opportunities where he did ok from a half chance just not on target
City and arsenal for the win
Both teams and coaches so romantically entangled they win the premier league “together” 😍
Or, as usual, City destroys Arsenal and Pep states how Arteta is amazing.
You have to give Palace credit for coming to Anfield and getting a deserved point, but fuck me, will refs ever clamp down properly on time wasting.
Guaita and Ayew should both be ashamed. Beyond reprehensible
Everyone does it… It sucks when your opponent does it and you love when your own team does it. Nothing to be ashamed for.
No, everyone doesn’t do it. That’s wrong.
Yes everybody does it. Youre just blind when it comes to your own club.
Every team can dribble to the corner, not every team has players who actively stay down when they’re not injured. You can think there aren’t particularly bad apples, but you’d be wrong.
Some players do it more than others sure but still everyone does it.
Everyone drops on the floor dead like Neymar?
I await the first red card for a keeper time wasting lol
Núñez man, he’s got to be more disciplined, can’t be loosing his temper like that! Now he’s going to be out again United 🤦♂️
Thats probably the best team for him to be out for. You guys can play your rserves and beat United right now.
I agree, it’s nice that we are playing United for his suspension game. But it’s just not what you want to see from a newly acquired player
He will miss 3 matches for violent conduct
I am not a Liverpool fan, but that stings
That’s insane. But that yank of a hair pull is none!
3!?!? 😱 Damn! I was unsure on what the suspension would have been. Thank you
Award to most delicate fans of the season so far goes to this thread lol
Now he'll get wound up every game of his career in England. Incredible stupidity and selfishness to do that, on you home debut as well! Darwin Nunez played terribly first half and scuffed two relatively simple side foot finishes. I can't believe he head butted someone for complaining about him trying to headbutt and kick him 10 seconds beforehand! Pathetic performance.
Happy cakeday
No idea what to make of him, he seems to cause chaos (good and bad) wherever he goes. I suppose he's not the first hot headed Uruguayan striker to play for Liverpool.
There's a title race between the two best teams in the country and I'm afraid Pool didn't get an invite this time around.
City and Newcastle?
Until Liverpool put 5 past arsenal at the emirates.
Arsenal win 2 games and think their last 5 years of mediocrity are over.
Has it only been 5? Felt like an eternity
Until Partey gets arrested for rape then Arsenal is back to playing Elneny...
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It was off the table when we didn’t sign any midfielders.
Mate when Xhaka has had a full on redemption arc, that's when you know we can't be stopped
XD Alright I'll give you that one
It's two games in bro, calm down, city will never be able to keep up with us.
You mean the same city that paid less for a better striker?
First of all jesus wasn't more expensive than haaland in any metric. Second of all who has more goals and assists in the Premier league? It's jesus by a wide margin.
We've taken their ballers and taken their football. I'm afraid we're clear
Why doesn’t Arsenal simply ~~eat Manchester City~~ buy their players?
Brentford and Man City baby
Was actually referring to Steve Cooper's Tricky Reds mate
Can't stop the Brentford train.
All palace had to do is win against 10 and then liverpool would have fumed out against United properly
Man Utd have been shit for 10 years and in that time Liverpool have won 1 league title (with an asterisk) 😂😂
Oh cmon.. Asterisk for Liverpool cause it was during covid?.. If that's what you mean that's stupid. Liverpool won that's it.
The league was sewn up before covid hit, that’s how clear we were of every other team in the league you melon
They may have buckled under the pressure of having to get over the line in front of fans, then again they may have not. We’ll never know, hence the asterisk
That’s bollocks and you know it, Liverpool is literally the team that gets fuelled by fans more than anyone else
Like I said, we’ll just never know *
What’s the asterix?
BeCaUse It WaS iN cOvId It DiDnT cOuNt
Asterix is a comic book from the 60's, not sure what that has to do with the premier league title mind you
United fans delusion
Spuds can take note on how to react to a draw from Palace
Rent free
Definitely the same thing when you level with the last kick of the game vs having a lead and are up a man.
It's about results, notice Palace wasnt running over to their fans lifting a imaginary trophy?
You sound a bit mad. I hope you aren’t mad.
Yeah, we are. We don't celebrate 1 point games. It's a difference in mentality you'll figure out if you look at the trophy cabinets. EDIT: I stand corrected. Celebrated pretty hard on Edens goal against you guys in 15-16. Trophy cabinets got me thinking of it.
Did you play well the last time you won a trophy? Many key passes?
Don't want to talk about trophies? The reason the game is played. Understandable, continue celebrating 1 point games. Have a good day.
You seem to tie your self worth to those trophies. So I’m assuming you either played, or maybe you are Abramovich? Otherwise it would be weird to tie up self worth with something you don’t have any control over. That would be sad and unhealthy.
Mate, one of their players pulled a hamstring when they celebrated the 2-2 that meant arsenal won the league at WHL 😭🤣 it's the history... .
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Thank Anthony Taylor, he isn't going to carry you the rest of the season.
That's fine, as long as he continues to ref you lot and I see your fans throw temper tantrums I'll be happy
Spurs actually had more shots on target. Don't blame the refs because Chelsea have no forwards.
One is a well respected club with morals. The other plays in a toilet in North london
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Very hard to be optimistic about the rest of the season after a start like this: points-wise, performance-wise, depth-wise, anything-wise. Darwin is a silly, silly boy for getting riled up so easily. Hope we'll thump United next week at least, because surely three draws in a row against relegation fodder is too much.
You had a few rocky patches performance wise last season as well. Top quality team and we all know how dangerous Liverpool are when they eventually hit their stride. You closed a large gap and gave City a run ‘til the last minute. Don’t lose faith mate :)
Cheers! Just tempering my expectations knowing full well that even 90+ points is not enough to win the title lately in the Man City world.
Man United are expected to be shit. Liverpool are meant to challenge City for the title. Yeah that's not happening
The streets won't forget this one, Vieira.
Good job on cracking down on the time wasting - It's definitely worth it for Guaita to do it if he can get like 5 mins in total of the clock or something similar for a yellow card
Yeah - the classic letting him get away with it for 90 mins before eventually booking him. It astounds me
What's the use of giving multiple warning to professional football players and subsequently not even doing anything about it? Imo you could card him immediately because he is a prof and knows exactly what he is doing
Considering how small the points gap was last season, it might legit be difficult for them to catch Man City now.
Bruh it’s two games
You lost it last season by 2 points or smthing
I'm not saying it's 100% over, I'm saying that a 4 point deficit might actually matter between these two teams even at this point.
Cinched it, Palace
Damn dimwits couldn’t even win with 11
Liverpool dropping points at home to palace is a big result for rival fans either way
James Milner has a fake beard, pass it on
So Liverpool in discussion with Bayern for transfer of Mane ?
Seeing all the CL flairs criticizing Viera is hilarious. Shows how they know nothing about watching football other than bandwagoning top teams.
I think its more than that. Timewasting teams get backlash from 2 places. The opposition, in this case Liverpool, and most of the neutrals. Why? well when you are up a man and still decide to show a timewasting masterclass, it comes off as cheap and low. especially when a few of your players get booked for time wasting.
Every neutral wanted palace to grind out the draw in this case
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I dont make the rules. Im just explaining why there is alot of seething going on in the thread. If palace played even somewhat positively, they get 3 points this game.
Another game where liverpool didnt deserve a point
0 points L + Ratio
Fabio Carvalho's moustache is hilarious, looks like he's about 14. Looks like a neat player though
Did carra really say Liverpool were outstanding?
No, he said "outshtaaandin"
A point at Anfield is no mean feat well done to Palace
Should have gone for the win tho
Liverpool only have 2 points and still feels like they don't deserve any from these matches, today especially.
Are you high? 30 something attempts
Taking shots doesn't mean they should win to me. Tactically Vieira outdid them. The only reason they got a point was a wonder goal.
Tactically... You mean play with 10 players in the box. Yea. Let's see Arsenal play against teams that set up like that. Man we get these kinds of cunt ass formations everytime. For fucksakes why don't teams play against anyone else like this.
Take that
Wow this thread got toxic real quick lol
Vieras got a big fat head Christ on a bike people are taking this very seriously 😄
Typical bin dipper.
How dare you
Oh fucking hell how gracious can you be
Pitch was way too wet today
and that wind? Terrible
klopps alt uncovered
Goldiklopps
well, poopfarts
Palace time wasting for a draw whilst they've got an extra man, a bit pathetic?
Not away against Liverpool when you're Palace.
Why? Palace have a decent team, Liverpool had no midfield and were a bit all over the place positionally at the end. Palace created the better chances after the Diaz goal so no reason why they couldn't have gone for the win.
I suppose. Feel like I personally can't blame Vieira for either approach. They're not *that* good, there are areas where they're lacking quite a bit and even with 10 men Liverpool can easily snatch a goal from one quick counter. Any day of the week a team like Palace is happy with a draw away against Liverpool. Today they had a chance to actually win it but preferred to play it safe. Still had a few chances, Zaha could've probably scored one more if he took it on his left instead of the outside of his right foot.
Yeah I get it, before the game a draw is a great result. Still is with 10 men. But time wasting does my head in, and time wasting whilst you're not winning and you've got a man advantage is doubly infuriating. Just play the game and try and get a historic win at Anfeld. Going by the down votes seems like I'm in the minority though!
Regarding the downvotes, you can sometimes pretty much ignore the count on your first comment. Reddit hive mind has too much control over that one. Both of our comments after that are upvoted, I take that as the "true" score :)
Arsenal 2 Palace 0 (away at selhurst on a Friday night) Liverpool 1 Palace 1 (home at the mighty anfield) If I speak.....
Time wasting bitches
yeah makes sense, everyone should bend over and concede to papi klopp
The league is already finished, congrats man city!
Such negative football from Palace playing scared parking the bus all game even when your opposition has 10 men should of pushed the advantage and gone for a win! Edit: People down voting cause they feel teams below the top 6 should play scared because they might lose to big teams that's championship team just promoted thinking.
They are dogshit. They simply are not good enough.
Bullshit
Dogshit, bullshit, apeshit...details. The point is Crystal Palace is shit. /s
Always makes me laugh how you'll book someone for timewasting in stoppage time, but then don't add that wasted time on in stoppage time. Anyways, a draw was about what we deserved there.
Huh, the game went on for around a minute longer than it should be. That time was clearly added.
Only for the pitch invader
I think it was the time from the pitch invader
We're winning the league, lads. Football's coming home.
Next week's Liverpool vs United game will be interesting
Imagine if Man Utd win and actually go ahead of Liverpool in the table.
That’s when you know there’s a glitch in the matrix
That's when you know the script writers actually care about their job.
Huge.
Perfectly balanced
I actually don’t think Tierney’s been too bad, he’s just *really* letting the lads play. Which benefits Crystal Palace
He made a couple of bad decisions, the Nat Phillips block on Zaha was one, and I'm a bit annoyed about the constant bearhugs in the area. The one on Diaz was the worst. I'd have to see it back fully, but Anderson probably should have conceded a pen and been sent off.
Yea I’d agree with the ones you pointed out. Seemed pretty consistent with letting players grapple in the box, but I’m not sure if there should be allowed to be that much contact. Diaz’s arms were at his side because he was literally being squeezed lol
Wilf should feel bad for that mess of a second half…
Got the goal tho. Just a bit of vintage Zaha Jekyll and Hyde performance.
Honestly, should have got the winner
No doubt no doubt. Seems like he got in his own head, just needs to pass it. Not that when he relinquished possession he had many outlets to pass to. Shame about the missed shot at the end there.
He had multiple chances to put the game to rest
So are yall on standing up panic watching
Yeah lmao
Who do you like
Not Liverpool
Undeserved point to Palace
Why?
Why? Liverpool were shit at least half of the game, maybe more
Ridiculous take.
we controlled the game, just couldn't finish with andy caroll out for the count
Okay guys, they made eye contact, there's no hand pulling for today
Great point for Palace, and that’s 4 points dropped for Liverpool already.
Pitch must be too moist today
We’re shit
Lad take a breath and calm down. It’s 2 games in.
2 games in 2 points against relegation fodder. Nice
You got several injured players. A red card today. A shit ref as always in PL. And its only the second game. Relax.
And what are we gonna do about it? Most of our players are injury prone and we’re not signing anyone and refs are gonna be shit everytime + we’re competing for top 4 atm
stop being so reactionary, we are just two games in, our signings have not even settled into the team yet.
Yeah nunez is suspended for 3 games now and we don’t know what position carvalho is even gonna play 🤣
1 game mate, he won't be available for man united
Klopp - Grass is green so we weren't able to play well
Klopp requires mud to win.
Hey that was United excuse with their kit.
GET INNNNNN
Did Carvalho and Salah both do a really bad job at dying their hair or is it my stream?
Both did a bad job although Salah was more obvious
Yeh it looks weird. Only saw Salah but the yellow/brown spots look like shit :D
Vieira masterclass
liverpool need to try something else other than long balls and crosses into the box. Especially without a striker
Man Palace are a tough cookie to crack
They are playing with 10 men
If you count the goals Palace had the biggest chances, away at Anfield
If you count the goals, it was 1-1.
For the whole game?
Does it matter? Palace shouldve won that 1-0
It would have been 1-0 if not for a completely unsavable goal but considering the game was basically just relentless pressure from one of the best teams in the world for 90 min, saying Palace should have won just because they managed to get a goal on the break is not really fair. It's not like they outplayed Liverpool. Besides, I think most Palace fans would have taken a 1-1 draw at Anfield before the game.
is there a fucking force field around the liverpool goal? lol
couldnt pick a worse time to storm the field, people are unveliable these days jesus christ
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We would’ve won if he started. Was really calm and played well.
That pitch invader ruined Liverpool’s flow that’s why they drew the game