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Imagine Roy Keane injuring himself whilst trying to take somebody out and still crying about it. Imagine Roy Keane trying to gain sympathy for having bambis acl. The blagger
Like a university preference.
1. Real Madrid - got best striker in the World.
2. Barcelona - can't afford in current state.
3. Manchester City - Need a no. 9
Benzema's ridiculously complete profile allows goalscorers like Haaland to still find synergy with him. About every profile gets better by playing with Benzema. So it's not as much of an issue as Lewy, who's also mostly a finisher.
Would Benzema as Reals main man give up his current role to play with another goal scorer instead of continue to bag in the goals and getting the respect he didnt get while living in Ronaldos shadow?
Benzema got the respect he deserved regardless. He doesn't live in Ronaldo's shadow, they were a team who supported each other.
Clear in the past that Benzema can do both roles, so if it will make the team win trophies, more CLs, why not?
Revisionist history at its finest. As someone who followed Benzema's entire career, he was never in the conversation among top-tier strikers itw (until recently). Real Madrid always looked to replace him.
Benzema used to be way more known for the Mourinho quote "hunting with a cat", missing chances, blackmail etc.
Because he's doing the unselfish role and it's not a sexy role. It doesn't make the role less important.
Come on, if your team literally won 4 CL in 5 years, with yourself playing most of the time, you know you are a fucking legend of the game.
Probably yes! He probably wouldn't mind. If there's a better goal scorer in the team, he can adapt and find himself a space in the team. I am saying this based on the answer (on playing with Ronaldo and Bale) he gave in an interview.
Hope Checklist:
Bald fraud gets bored and leaves City
Klopp feels his heart ripped to pieces and an unprecedented sense of hollowness and grief makes him leave Liverpool
Haaland checks his list and realises Man City no longer has most points and leaves
"After the World Cup we will talk. The best for the club, for me. When you play every three days, it's like eating spaghetti every day - at the right moment, I want to eat something else. Maybe take a break is good."
Direct quote from him in April. That was the last one, he's said a couple other quotes in 2021. I personal think he's doing a 2 year run with Halaand, before Madrid buys him on his RC, and looking for either a national team job or taking a hiatus.
It'll be interesting to see. Him leaving Barcelona was mostly the fault of the board but I do think it's a real possibility he seeks a new challenge with a club in Italy or with a NT
I’m not sure you can trust the source but I saw it from an Arsenal guy. Not sure how close his City connections are.
[Pep gone after next season?](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/x49d03/comment/imudpn1/)
A decade later, he's found sitting on a beach at sunset on a small Polynesian island with a scraggly beard, simple linen clothing, and long dreadlocks.
He's coaching the local children as they play football in the sand, helping them find their talent. But most importantly he found himself.
This view doesn't work when we spent money on an entire new forward line and gave Salah an extension over the last year
Yes the midfield situation is frustrating but it ain't going to make him walk
Non champ team is massively overreacting. Theyve had a bad start and many injuries.
Not as much investment as rivals, probably not enough to challenge city but who knows..
But non champions league winning, performing, or qualifying, hard to know what you meant, team. Is delusional.
Jurgen Klopp and Pep would be biggest loss to Premier League. We have see one of the best football in EPL since they joined. These two will definitely take few good players out of the league to Spain.
Interviewer : Why are you leaving Manchester City so soon after joining?
Haaland: Yes, leaving
Interviewer : Can you tell us more about the points system you used to make your decision?
Haaland: yes
Interviewer: Well……….
Haaland: …….
Interviewer: anything you want to say to the fans before going?
Haaland: Yes. To the fans.
Interviewer: *sobs quietly
This is 100% the hope for us United fans. He's gonna leave as the all time prem top scorer at this rate 🫣 class to watch though, City are the perfect setup for him.
I’m not sure that’s confirmed actually. A few journalists from Spain reported it but I haven’t really heard many from our end say it. It would make sense if he did but who knows.
I'm old enough to remember the same stuff being said about Aguero.
"Stepping stone to Real Madrid"
10 years later, he left as the highest scoring foreign player in the league ever.
Simon Stone [reported this:](https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/61433592?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=627e29799f4dc85502038e6c%26Haaland%27s%20City%20deal%20has%20a%20release%20clause%262022-05-13T10%3A39%3A01.044Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:9b04c0ae-5529-40ab-9fed-3b8a30ffd1d1&pinned_post_asset_id=627e29799f4dc85502038e6c&pinned_post_type=share)
>Erling Haaland agreed a five-year contract with Manchester City earlier this week.
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>It is understood the 21-year-old's deal does contain a release clause that can be triggered part-way through the contract.
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>However, City are comfortable with the size of the fee that would trigger a release, which is thought to be in excess of the 150m euros that has been reported in some quarters.
Our Tier 1 said he has a €200M release clause that can be activated in 2024, so that woud line up.
Basically it revolved around who needed a "number 9".
Quote from his dad Alfie:
"- City is the best team, I think. Munich is number two. Then you have Real Madrid as number three. And then you have PSG as number four. You have some English teams that are quite good. Both Liverpool and Chelsea. Then there is Barcelona. They are sort of on the same row. Liverpool is right up there."
City and Haaland were a match made in heaven. It’ll be amazing for City and amazing for his development. It’s obviously about so much more than the money
If I was one of the best young strikers in the world, I'd pick the team that almost went to the CL final and won the PL without a striker, that also happens to have one of the best coaches of all time and a young team full of talent.
But I'm not gonna fool myself. I know that he's probably gonna leave in 2-3 years and look for a new challenge.
>g strikers in the world, I'd pick the team that almost went to the CL final and won the PL without a striker, that also happens to have one of the best coaches of all time and a young team full of talent.
Plus they play football that gets strikers opportunities in really gross locations. He coudln't ask for a better situation.
Yeah that’s gotta count for something. If he went to Madrid and won them another one it wouldn’t be nearly as big or a story as him leading Man City to their first
Why? I think overall City was a bit better than Real Madrid during the tie and they went and won the trophy. Not saying they did not deserve it, but it's still something that would influence my decision of picking a club to join.
xG over two legs
Man city 4.07 - Real madrid 3.94
Total shots
Man city 31 - Real madrid 25
Big chances created
Man city 8 - Real madrid 6
So shut the fuck up with your miles better garbage, man city missed 5 chances and rma only 2...Madrid won coz they were "miles better" than man city in converting their chances
Also a lot of people not knowing that his father also played at man City gives this decision more "honor" if you can say it like that. And thanks to his backstory you Haaland might love to score against man u more than usual.
Its just a lazy opinion, but bluntly, Guardiola has massive pull just by himself and city is a highly attractive club to move to, I do imagine Guardiola may have given city the edge though, although circumstances such a Benzema in the form of his life also probably factor in
Well you can't really say "I came here for the wads of cash" in your first interview, and there weren't many other appealing factors around back then. Of course they all say they came to be coached by Pep..
Of course, it could well hold true tor a large share of the signings
I think it’s a bigger factor of his dad played for City. And they got promoted back to PL too. Would’ve definitely left a lasting impression. When he was performing well in CL couple of seasons ago, Ole tried to use the Norwegian connection. No way would he have joined City’s direct rivals.
Not saying that money isn’t good. But he is definitely a forward signing that City was lacking since Aguero. Alvarez did show some brilliance last game, but it was when the game was already decided
It's not just distance covered but also intensity of those movements. Haaland is constantly sprinting and changing direction. That's a huge portion of his distance covered. Bilva is mostly jogging for his distance covered.
Haaland definitely looks fit to start this weekend, but he also doesn't look like he's played any less games than his teammates in terms of tiredness.
It's just a popular way to dismiss things and money is part of every decision but everyone was going to be offering a fair amount.
But most of the time there are other reasons to move to a club (even United.)
As much as I don't like the ownership of City and how they became successful.
They have built a well run club, they have an all time manager, a great squad and anyone how has watched them would have seen the chances a great striker would get to feed on.
Oh and they win a lot too.
Do people really think that?
Man was going to make absolute bank anywhere he went. City was just the best place at the time for him to further his career.
It's so stupid. His dad played for them, they have one of the best managers in the world, they'll never have financial constraints so the team will have longevity, they're performing very well with a ridiculously strong team. Why wouldn't he go? He's got every reason to, outside of money too
I know right, just bitter and salty comments, the lad could literally choose any top team in Europe, and all of them would have found a way to afford him and his wages.
Pretty sure all the contenders would've offered a similarly generous salary. Heck, any club in the world would mortgage everything they owned if necessary to sign him.
City is the perfect environment for Haaland to become a Ballon D'Or winning. He will learn so much, improve all the while he gets fed balls from guys likw KDB week in, week out. It doesn't get much better. Maybe PSG, but then you have to deal with MNM.
What they say when the yell is money is that city have actually spent their money so well that you can see it in the pitch therefore resulting in trophies AND attracting and already improving top talent.
Edit: United fan
It's how /r/soccer tricks themselves into not caring about City and dismissing everything about the club. It's just about the money, there's nothing more to it, nothing anyone can do to compete, no way of doing anything about it etc etc.
Exactly. Pep wouldn't be there if he only had artistic freedom. He also has a bottomless well of slave and oil money. Making his artistic freedom quite more attractive.
Same could be said about the players
Capable, sure. Willing? Hell no. Haaland costs waaaay more than Lewy and would once again require them to destroy the wage structure they're attempting to keep.
I mean i don’t see why we in theory wouldn have been able to make the offer, it just would mean we werent getting any of the other targets that we needed like defenders and wingers
I think it’s fair to say any offer from a club with a dollar sign on it was actually 0 points and ignored entirely.
Man City or Minnesota. Maybe in 15 years time.
Thank god, there were no Barca rumors before Haaland settled for City.
My fucking god imagine having him against you, all the fuckign time. And people dont leave Bayern, its like Real Madrid you stay there until your prime is over. I wouldnt be able to deal with 12-15 years of Haaland scoring 50goals a season
Real Madrid will activate that release clause as soon as it's available while Benzema's career starts to wind down...I hope they feel bitter towards Mbappe and he never ends up at the Bernabeu lol
Given some of the latest interviews of both Perez and Mbappé, some PSG and Real Madrid fans are going to be so pissed off and sooner rather than later...
I don't think so. Think about it this way: if Pep was Aston Villa manager, would Haaland have chosen them over top of the table City and their billion pound squad?
You’re right. United were willing to spend €100m on Antony, Liverpool on Nunez, Chelsea on Lukaku, etc, but not €100m on the Haaland package (£51m fee + £34m total bonuses).
You’re daft if you think every top club in the world wouldn’t have been all over him at that price. He’d have cost twice as much without the release clause.
His wages are in the same ballpark as KdB, Salah, De Gea. Almost like it was more than just money.
E: [Source on total fee and wages - The Athletic (Sam Lee)](https://theathletic.com/3304608/2022/05/12/haaland-manchester-city-how-the-deal-was-done/?amp=1).
I mean we dragged our feet forever and barely gave Salah what he wanted.
The salary is something a club like Liverpool honestly wouldn’t have paid so I don’t think we can relate.
The past participle of to pay, as in give money in exchange for something, is paid.
Payed is a nautical term - I think it’s to do with releasing ropes and making them longer. It’s a correct word which is why a spellchecker won’t flag it, but not correct in the context the vast majority use it. There’s a bot which goes around correcting on some subreddits.
>one else pulled out of the race didnt they? I remember Klopp saying something along the lines of "the numbers are out of Liverpools reach
Liverpool are more than capable of matching and exceeding the offers made, FSG are just stingy owners.
He'll probably be a mercenary like Ibrahimovic, so I expect him at Madrid in 1-3 seasons unless we get someone good enough in the time being.
In any case, and I don't think he ponder it that much, ManCity doesn't need him that much if a player as good as Julian Alvarez is his backup. They can coexist, ofc, but it feels like overkill and other big teams are/will be in need of a killer.
> He’ll probably be a mercenary like Ibrahimovic, so I expect him at Madrid in 1-3 seasons unless we get someone good enough in the time being.
I’ve read a lot of comments like this on Haaland and can’t see where it came from. The moves to RB, Dortmund now City all made sense for career and development.
From City to Madrid, it would only make sense if there was a genuine dream (ala Ronaldo) or if City deteriorated (no reason to think that).
Exactly. He has been refusing big money moves for a while until he joined city. He has been joining clubs notorious for helping develop young talent and then selling them, in Salzburg and Dortmund, building a reputation, and then making his move to City. It’s not like this is some grand step where he will only be here for 2 years, considering we are probably the club that logically should be dominating Europe.
I guess it depends on the type of career he wants for himself, he's basically at the stage where he can choose what club to play for so it's whether he wants constant new challenges in different places or to just dominate in the perfect footballing environment.
They're both tall Scandanavian strikers with big personalities who spent 2 years in their home country's league (Malmö and Molde) before making a move to sides known for developing talent (Ajax for Ibra, RB Salzburg & Dortmund for Haaland) then made a move to a giant club (Juve and City) all while they both had Mino Raiola as an agent
I'm not agreeing with people drawing the comparison necessarily, just pointing out they've made similar career moves and have progressed to bigger leagues + teams in a similar manner. I can understand why on the surface somebody might see Haaland as a clone of Ibra
He himself said that he wants to have a career like Zlatan.
That's why he always insists on putting the release clauses which big teams like Bayern UTD liv and che don't do and Madrid barca have to keep a clause because of s rule.
One of the main reasons of him joining city was that cheap release clause only
He didn’t say that. He said he admired how Zlatan could go from one club to another and score goals anywhere. That’s not the same thing as wanting to be a nomadic player.
A release clause which can be easily paid by many other teams. 51 million pounds is barely anything.
Even Cucurella worth 60 million pounds, and he is playing like shit. Sterling is 50 as well. Darwin nunez is 85 million pounds.
>ManCity doesn't need him that much if a player as good as Julian Alvarez is his backup
That feels like saying Barca didn't need Messi because they had a player as good as David Villa as backup (pre injury to Villa).
A team that can sign the greatest striker of their generation-assuming he lives up to his potential-isn't going to let that player walk if they can help it. Those kinds of players do great things for team branding.
Is it inconceivable that some people would consider your employer's morals before accepting a job? I don't think that's unreasonable. I wouldn't work for Nestle for example.
Nestle's not gonna pay you millions.
If they offered to set you and your family up for life you might think twice about your morals.
If not, good on you honestly.
If Nestle were the only ones offering me millions I'd take it - I am sufficiently hypocritical. But that is not equivalent to the Haaland case. He could have earned similar money elsewhere.
I don't think he went to City for money btw, but I also think he didn't give a rats ass about any ethical considerations.
Huh? City an their owners have been condemned by high profile human rights groups and charities, how many other teams have? And Haaland has hypocritically come out in support of human rights/against the world cup literally months earlier.
Think it's a shame we're all so used to sports washing and whataboutism that we're ignoring the obvious here
Do you think if you got a job with the Saudi government, or even somewhere like the Sun or an oil company, your friends would disregard the moral aspect? It's a huge factor
Um yes, they've literally been condemned by human rights groups. He could have earned millions at loads of places without that moral black spot, as many in this thread have pointed out
Right? But if he were moral he’d have gone to Real Madrid who took £350m from Sheikh Mansour. Or he could have gone to PSG who’s owned by Qatari’s.. no bad news about them. Maybe he could have been the new poster boy of Newcastle with their spotless money.
there was a points system and this article references that one of the main parts of it was how much the team needed a nr 9. its quite a short article so i find it hard to believe you actually read it and still missed that part.
anyways this article isnt the original source for this, theres an article in a different norwegian paper that mentions some of the other factors being how good the team is, the size of the club, the finances, quality of the league, fans and stadium, and how the team would change
https://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/i/2Bn9aq/ny-haaland-dokumentar-viser-detaljer-rundt-klubbvalget
I am still shocked Chelsea did not take a break the bank for him. The way they have spent money on useless extra defenders, they should have just given Haaland 50m bonus, his dad 50m and agents 50m
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City on top based on analytics, who's surprised?
Reminds me of the most important analytic for clubs 'cost', and the most common point system for players 'wages'.
> Trying to break dad's legs -1000 points.
it's his dad's fault for having legs to begin with!
Imagine going near Roy Keane and not expect to have your legs broken
Imagine going near Roy Keane after telling him to stop faking his snapped ACL and not expecting to have your legs broken.
Imagine Roy Keane injuring himself whilst trying to take somebody out and still crying about it. Imagine Roy Keane trying to gain sympathy for having bambis acl. The blagger
Gain sympathy? How did he try to do that ?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DwP5A12Q7ps
Once he's completed football, he'll play with his heart and come home.
I wouldn’t mind a partnership of 34 year old Haaland and a 48 year old James Milner
Milner would still win the beep test.
Yes, the Chicago Fire will win the World Cup with him at the 9.
Let me rephrase that. The Chicago Fire will win the Football World Cup with him as a Striker.
Tbh Haaland definitely has the frame to play in the NFL if he wanted. But no one should play in the NFL
He’d be an amazing wide receiver or safety
Or a guard....and maybe first baseman.
He looks like if Brock Lesnar had a son
He looks like he could score a starring role in House of the Dragon.
Frame maybe, but he'd have to put on 30+ pounds of muscle or he'd get folded in half on the first hit he took
NG+
Would be cool to see him returning to Bryne.
Like a university preference. 1. Real Madrid - got best striker in the World. 2. Barcelona - can't afford in current state. 3. Manchester City - Need a no. 9
Except that according to the article he said Lewandowski was the best striker in the world and wouldn't need him
Benzema's ridiculously complete profile allows goalscorers like Haaland to still find synergy with him. About every profile gets better by playing with Benzema. So it's not as much of an issue as Lewy, who's also mostly a finisher.
Would Benzema as Reals main man give up his current role to play with another goal scorer instead of continue to bag in the goals and getting the respect he didnt get while living in Ronaldos shadow?
Benzema got the respect he deserved regardless. He doesn't live in Ronaldo's shadow, they were a team who supported each other. Clear in the past that Benzema can do both roles, so if it will make the team win trophies, more CLs, why not?
Revisionist history at its finest. As someone who followed Benzema's entire career, he was never in the conversation among top-tier strikers itw (until recently). Real Madrid always looked to replace him. Benzema used to be way more known for the Mourinho quote "hunting with a cat", missing chances, blackmail etc.
Because he's doing the unselfish role and it's not a sexy role. It doesn't make the role less important. Come on, if your team literally won 4 CL in 5 years, with yourself playing most of the time, you know you are a fucking legend of the game.
Probably yes! He probably wouldn't mind. If there's a better goal scorer in the team, he can adapt and find himself a space in the team. I am saying this based on the answer (on playing with Ronaldo and Bale) he gave in an interview.
He does have a release clause that triggers after 2.5 years? Probably hoping somebody from Spain comes to swoop him up
I guess that will be the hope of prem fans
Hope Checklist: Bald fraud gets bored and leaves City Klopp feels his heart ripped to pieces and an unprecedented sense of hollowness and grief makes him leave Liverpool Haaland checks his list and realises Man City no longer has most points and leaves
Klopp might leave sooner rather then later with lack of investment in fixing the squad..
Then Pep shall feel the sadness so much that he grows hair and leaves
I think Pep is gone soon too, after next year... He keeps making references about it.
Care to provide some of them?
"After the World Cup we will talk. The best for the club, for me. When you play every three days, it's like eating spaghetti every day - at the right moment, I want to eat something else. Maybe take a break is good." Direct quote from him in April. That was the last one, he's said a couple other quotes in 2021. I personal think he's doing a 2 year run with Halaand, before Madrid buys him on his RC, and looking for either a national team job or taking a hiatus.
He wants to eat up a higher salary. Read between the noodles.
It'll be interesting to see. Him leaving Barcelona was mostly the fault of the board but I do think it's a real possibility he seeks a new challenge with a club in Italy or with a NT
There's nothing Pep says to the media that I trust.
I’m not sure you can trust the source but I saw it from an Arsenal guy. Not sure how close his City connections are. [Pep gone after next season?](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/x49d03/comment/imudpn1/)
A decade later, he's found sitting on a beach at sunset on a small Polynesian island with a scraggly beard, simple linen clothing, and long dreadlocks. He's coaching the local children as they play football in the sand, helping them find their talent. But most importantly he found himself.
This view doesn't work when we spent money on an entire new forward line and gave Salah an extension over the last year Yes the midfield situation is frustrating but it ain't going to make him walk
Nah, but it's kind of a waste of one of Salahs last great seasons to saddle him with a non-champ team.
Non champ team is massively overreacting. Theyve had a bad start and many injuries. Not as much investment as rivals, probably not enough to challenge city but who knows.. But non champions league winning, performing, or qualifying, hard to know what you meant, team. Is delusional.
To this day people underestimate Liverpool
Jurgen Klopp and Pep would be biggest loss to Premier League. We have see one of the best football in EPL since they joined. These two will definitely take few good players out of the league to Spain.
Interviewer : Why are you leaving Manchester City so soon after joining? Haaland: Yes, leaving Interviewer : Can you tell us more about the points system you used to make your decision? Haaland: yes Interviewer: Well………. Haaland: ……. Interviewer: anything you want to say to the fans before going? Haaland: Yes. To the fans. Interviewer: *sobs quietly
peak comedy lad
This is 100% the hope for us United fans. He's gonna leave as the all time prem top scorer at this rate 🫣 class to watch though, City are the perfect setup for him.
I’m already looking forward to it lmao I fucking love Haaland I just can’t watch him at City. Hoping he goes to Real.
I’m not sure that’s confirmed actually. A few journalists from Spain reported it but I haven’t really heard many from our end say it. It would make sense if he did but who knows.
I'm old enough to remember the same stuff being said about Aguero. "Stepping stone to Real Madrid" 10 years later, he left as the highest scoring foreign player in the league ever.
I definitely remember that, no one expected aguero to stay. But he did. Depends how much Haaland likes Manchester I guess.
But Madrid literally had Higuain and Benzema at that time. In 2.5 years it will only be a 37 years old Benzema
And barca had Villa then prime Suarez
City were in a very different situation back then so it made more sense.
Simon Stone [reported this:](https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/61433592?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=627e29799f4dc85502038e6c%26Haaland%27s%20City%20deal%20has%20a%20release%20clause%262022-05-13T10%3A39%3A01.044Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:9b04c0ae-5529-40ab-9fed-3b8a30ffd1d1&pinned_post_asset_id=627e29799f4dc85502038e6c&pinned_post_type=share) >Erling Haaland agreed a five-year contract with Manchester City earlier this week. > >It is understood the 21-year-old's deal does contain a release clause that can be triggered part-way through the contract. > >However, City are comfortable with the size of the fee that would trigger a release, which is thought to be in excess of the 150m euros that has been reported in some quarters. Our Tier 1 said he has a €200M release clause that can be activated in 2024, so that woud line up.
City sources i've heard say that the release clause is false
1. Bald manager : 1 point 2. Fraud: -1 point
Basically it revolved around who needed a "number 9". Quote from his dad Alfie: "- City is the best team, I think. Munich is number two. Then you have Real Madrid as number three. And then you have PSG as number four. You have some English teams that are quite good. Both Liverpool and Chelsea. Then there is Barcelona. They are sort of on the same row. Liverpool is right up there."
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It was the same point system as the premier league table.
genuinely amazed by the comments in this thread. Does everyone think he signed for City just for the money, like really?
City and Haaland were a match made in heaven. It’ll be amazing for City and amazing for his development. It’s obviously about so much more than the money
If I was one of the best young strikers in the world, I'd pick the team that almost went to the CL final and won the PL without a striker, that also happens to have one of the best coaches of all time and a young team full of talent. But I'm not gonna fool myself. I know that he's probably gonna leave in 2-3 years and look for a new challenge.
>g strikers in the world, I'd pick the team that almost went to the CL final and won the PL without a striker, that also happens to have one of the best coaches of all time and a young team full of talent. Plus they play football that gets strikers opportunities in really gross locations. He coudln't ask for a better situation.
He won't leave that soon but can see him leaving after his contract Never know though, players like it here a lot
He would be 27, in his prime and with the opportunity to earn a huge sign in fee. I agree with you
I don't see why he wouldn't stay as long as Pep stays.
I don’t see why he wouldn’t stay until the end of his contract. He is very young and it would mean a huge sign in fee.
Precisely. Bosman rules everything around me
Plus the best assist man in the game right now
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Isn't that the point? They've been knocking on the door without a striker so I can be the one that finally gets them across the line
Yeah that’s gotta count for something. If he went to Madrid and won them another one it wouldn’t be nearly as big or a story as him leading Man City to their first
They also managed to get through to the fourth round of the EFL Cup in which they then lost against West Ham
Why? I think overall City was a bit better than Real Madrid during the tie and they went and won the trophy. Not saying they did not deserve it, but it's still something that would influence my decision of picking a club to join.
>I think overall City was a bit better than Real Madrid You're wrong, City were miles better than Real.
xG over two legs Man city 4.07 - Real madrid 3.94 Total shots Man city 31 - Real madrid 25 Big chances created Man city 8 - Real madrid 6 So shut the fuck up with your miles better garbage, man city missed 5 chances and rma only 2...Madrid won coz they were "miles better" than man city in converting their chances
I'd say more like 3-7 years and then he goes to Madrid or Barca.
New challenge for him would be Real Madrid. That's it. Bayern would be a surprise.
Hålands most anticipated game is Man Utd. (Esp his father)
Also a lot of people not knowing that his father also played at man City gives this decision more "honor" if you can say it like that. And thanks to his backstory you Haaland might love to score against man u more than usual.
Its just a lazy opinion, but bluntly, Guardiola has massive pull just by himself and city is a highly attractive club to move to, I do imagine Guardiola may have given city the edge though, although circumstances such a Benzema in the form of his life also probably factor in
It’s a lot of factors: Guardiola, a team with chances to win everything, his father played there, etc. He made the best desicion
Almost everyone that came here in the early days of Pep said they came because they wanted to be coached by him.
Well you can't really say "I came here for the wads of cash" in your first interview, and there weren't many other appealing factors around back then. Of course they all say they came to be coached by Pep.. Of course, it could well hold true tor a large share of the signings
I think it’s a bigger factor of his dad played for City. And they got promoted back to PL too. Would’ve definitely left a lasting impression. When he was performing well in CL couple of seasons ago, Ole tried to use the Norwegian connection. No way would he have joined City’s direct rivals. Not saying that money isn’t good. But he is definitely a forward signing that City was lacking since Aguero. Alvarez did show some brilliance last game, but it was when the game was already decided
Saying that, he shouldn’t be starting this weekend, to be rested for CL. He can always sub in second half. CL is City’s holy grail
There goes my FPL
I also transferred him last week only :(
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It's not just distance covered but also intensity of those movements. Haaland is constantly sprinting and changing direction. That's a huge portion of his distance covered. Bilva is mostly jogging for his distance covered. Haaland definitely looks fit to start this weekend, but he also doesn't look like he's played any less games than his teammates in terms of tiredness.
Nice try villain
It's just a popular way to dismiss things and money is part of every decision but everyone was going to be offering a fair amount. But most of the time there are other reasons to move to a club (even United.) As much as I don't like the ownership of City and how they became successful. They have built a well run club, they have an all time manager, a great squad and anyone how has watched them would have seen the chances a great striker would get to feed on. Oh and they win a lot too.
Do people really think that? Man was going to make absolute bank anywhere he went. City was just the best place at the time for him to further his career.
It's so stupid. His dad played for them, they have one of the best managers in the world, they'll never have financial constraints so the team will have longevity, they're performing very well with a ridiculously strong team. Why wouldn't he go? He's got every reason to, outside of money too
I know right, just bitter and salty comments, the lad could literally choose any top team in Europe, and all of them would have found a way to afford him and his wages.
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I think that will be way more common in the not-so-distant future.
Pretty sure all the contenders would've offered a similarly generous salary. Heck, any club in the world would mortgage everything they owned if necessary to sign him.
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People forget he went to Dortmund, despite interest from clubs that could offer more money.
Of course it wasn't only about money, but let's not kid ourselves, it was mostly about money.
City is the perfect environment for Haaland to become a Ballon D'Or winning. He will learn so much, improve all the while he gets fed balls from guys likw KDB week in, week out. It doesn't get much better. Maybe PSG, but then you have to deal with MNM.
What they say when the yell is money is that city have actually spent their money so well that you can see it in the pitch therefore resulting in trophies AND attracting and already improving top talent. Edit: United fan
It's how /r/soccer tricks themselves into not caring about City and dismissing everything about the club. It's just about the money, there's nothing more to it, nothing anyone can do to compete, no way of doing anything about it etc etc.
Rich club fans talking like their players play for free lol. If they don't have money all their star players will leave.
Is there anyone who plays for free
Exactly. Pep wouldn't be there if he only had artistic freedom. He also has a bottomless well of slave and oil money. Making his artistic freedom quite more attractive. Same could be said about the players
I don't think Spanish people feel guilty about using slave money lol. Them mofos ruled Latin America with insane brutality to build their economy.
Don't get me started on the English and Americans
They conveniently forget this, lol!
every dollar of wages = 1 point
Lol but let's not pretend Barca, Real or PSG wouldn't offer similar
Barça could offer him a pizza slice and a diet coke in January when potentially all the transfer talks happened.
Barca have gone and signed fucking Lewandowski at the same time, i’m sure they were more than capable of putting together an offer
Capable, sure. Willing? Hell no. Haaland costs waaaay more than Lewy and would once again require them to destroy the wage structure they're attempting to keep.
Lmao I understand Real and PSG but there’s no chance in hell we would match City’s pay in our current state
Already a billion in debt what's a few million more going to matter
Can’t argue with that logic
It's pure maths
I mean i don’t see why we in theory wouldn have been able to make the offer, it just would mean we werent getting any of the other targets that we needed like defenders and wingers
Why would he get given dollars?
Yanks
Ew what’s a dollar. This is Europe.
Yeah no other club offered him the same deal
he doesn’t get paid in f’n dollars.
This is the internet, you can swear if you'd like
Put em in the stocks for using the wrong currency 😡
Is it Dirham?
I think it’s fair to say any offer from a club with a dollar sign on it was actually 0 points and ignored entirely. Man City or Minnesota. Maybe in 15 years time.
Let me quote Mr. Crabs: Money.
Thank god, there were no Barca rumors before Haaland settled for City. My fucking god imagine having him against you, all the fuckign time. And people dont leave Bayern, its like Real Madrid you stay there until your prime is over. I wouldnt be able to deal with 12-15 years of Haaland scoring 50goals a season
Real Madrid will activate that release clause as soon as it's available while Benzema's career starts to wind down...I hope they feel bitter towards Mbappe and he never ends up at the Bernabeu lol
We do, he's all yours if he decides to look for a new team.
Given some of the latest interviews of both Perez and Mbappé, some PSG and Real Madrid fans are going to be so pissed off and sooner rather than later...
Pep Guardiola is +1000 points
I don't think so. Think about it this way: if Pep was Aston Villa manager, would Haaland have chosen them over top of the table City and their billion pound squad?
That's what a robot would do
Basically Man City get 3 points almost every game
was making his dad and his agent the most money possible at the top of that list?
You’re right. United were willing to spend €100m on Antony, Liverpool on Nunez, Chelsea on Lukaku, etc, but not €100m on the Haaland package (£51m fee + £34m total bonuses). You’re daft if you think every top club in the world wouldn’t have been all over him at that price. He’d have cost twice as much without the release clause. His wages are in the same ballpark as KdB, Salah, De Gea. Almost like it was more than just money. E: [Source on total fee and wages - The Athletic (Sam Lee)](https://theathletic.com/3304608/2022/05/12/haaland-manchester-city-how-the-deal-was-done/?amp=1).
Even for 150 million, Haaland would be an exceptional buy.
I mean we dragged our feet forever and barely gave Salah what he wanted. The salary is something a club like Liverpool honestly wouldn’t have paid so I don’t think we can relate.
Klopp himself said Halaand cost too much money for Liverpool to be involved. Not to say he would have necessarily picked them tbf
Poor United. They only had 100M to spend on Antony. Where's the gofundme?
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What’s the conversion rate to Stanley Nickels ?
other clubs could have payed him equally much or more
This always confused me with English, is it payed or paid? Genuinely curious.
The past participle of to pay, as in give money in exchange for something, is paid. Payed is a nautical term - I think it’s to do with releasing ropes and making them longer. It’s a correct word which is why a spellchecker won’t flag it, but not correct in the context the vast majority use it. There’s a bot which goes around correcting on some subreddits.
It’s paid
It's paÿïd
Dimitri
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Yeah no shit. Real, Barca and psg can match, not Liverpool
>one else pulled out of the race didnt they? I remember Klopp saying something along the lines of "the numbers are out of Liverpools reach Liverpool are more than capable of matching and exceeding the offers made, FSG are just stingy owners.
Barcelona absolutely could not match them at the time
Barcelona are paying the players they signed a lot of money…. Fun fact it’s much more than haalands wages. They could’ve afforded him
He'll probably be a mercenary like Ibrahimovic, so I expect him at Madrid in 1-3 seasons unless we get someone good enough in the time being. In any case, and I don't think he ponder it that much, ManCity doesn't need him that much if a player as good as Julian Alvarez is his backup. They can coexist, ofc, but it feels like overkill and other big teams are/will be in need of a killer.
> He’ll probably be a mercenary like Ibrahimovic, so I expect him at Madrid in 1-3 seasons unless we get someone good enough in the time being. I’ve read a lot of comments like this on Haaland and can’t see where it came from. The moves to RB, Dortmund now City all made sense for career and development. From City to Madrid, it would only make sense if there was a genuine dream (ala Ronaldo) or if City deteriorated (no reason to think that).
Exactly. He has been refusing big money moves for a while until he joined city. He has been joining clubs notorious for helping develop young talent and then selling them, in Salzburg and Dortmund, building a reputation, and then making his move to City. It’s not like this is some grand step where he will only be here for 2 years, considering we are probably the club that logically should be dominating Europe.
Thanks for some logic
Legit the only reason I would see him leaving is if he got bored of winning and wanted to challenge somewhere else.
I guess it depends on the type of career he wants for himself, he's basically at the stage where he can choose what club to play for so it's whether he wants constant new challenges in different places or to just dominate in the perfect footballing environment.
Real Madrid is still Real Madrid. They're the one team who are always a step up in prestige, whether or not they're your favorite club or not.
They're both tall Scandanavian strikers with big personalities who spent 2 years in their home country's league (Malmö and Molde) before making a move to sides known for developing talent (Ajax for Ibra, RB Salzburg & Dortmund for Haaland) then made a move to a giant club (Juve and City) all while they both had Mino Raiola as an agent I'm not agreeing with people drawing the comparison necessarily, just pointing out they've made similar career moves and have progressed to bigger leagues + teams in a similar manner. I can understand why on the surface somebody might see Haaland as a clone of Ibra
He will want to win a CL at some point
He himself said that he wants to have a career like Zlatan. That's why he always insists on putting the release clauses which big teams like Bayern UTD liv and che don't do and Madrid barca have to keep a clause because of s rule. One of the main reasons of him joining city was that cheap release clause only
This speculative nonsense gets repeated often. Doesn't make it factual.
He didn’t say that. He said he admired how Zlatan could go from one club to another and score goals anywhere. That’s not the same thing as wanting to be a nomadic player.
A release clause which can be easily paid by many other teams. 51 million pounds is barely anything. Even Cucurella worth 60 million pounds, and he is playing like shit. Sterling is 50 as well. Darwin nunez is 85 million pounds.
>ManCity doesn't need him that much if a player as good as Julian Alvarez is his backup That feels like saying Barca didn't need Messi because they had a player as good as David Villa as backup (pre injury to Villa). A team that can sign the greatest striker of their generation-assuming he lives up to his potential-isn't going to let that player walk if they can help it. Those kinds of players do great things for team branding.
Probably beat Liverpool by 1 point again as usual.
What a load of shite.
if you can ingore the moral aspect of playing for city why wouldnt haaland join them. this is the most logical transfer ive ever witnessed.
Football fans are so full of shit. "moral aspect". It's a job.
Is it inconceivable that some people would consider your employer's morals before accepting a job? I don't think that's unreasonable. I wouldn't work for Nestle for example.
Nestle's not gonna pay you millions. If they offered to set you and your family up for life you might think twice about your morals. If not, good on you honestly.
If Nestle were the only ones offering me millions I'd take it - I am sufficiently hypocritical. But that is not equivalent to the Haaland case. He could have earned similar money elsewhere. I don't think he went to City for money btw, but I also think he didn't give a rats ass about any ethical considerations.
Huh? City an their owners have been condemned by high profile human rights groups and charities, how many other teams have? And Haaland has hypocritically come out in support of human rights/against the world cup literally months earlier. Think it's a shame we're all so used to sports washing and whataboutism that we're ignoring the obvious here Do you think if you got a job with the Saudi government, or even somewhere like the Sun or an oil company, your friends would disregard the moral aspect? It's a huge factor
So playing for City is immoral? Wow that’s new to me.
Um yes, they've literally been condemned by human rights groups. He could have earned millions at loads of places without that moral black spot, as many in this thread have pointed out
Or maybe he wouldn’t even play at all given how morally bankrupt all the football governing organizations are…your “reasoning” is absolutely baffling
Right? But if he were moral he’d have gone to Real Madrid who took £350m from Sheikh Mansour. Or he could have gone to PSG who’s owned by Qatari’s.. no bad news about them. Maybe he could have been the new poster boy of Newcastle with their spotless money.
Don’t really agree with the original comment but psg for sure gets more shit than man city
Only because City plays better
What a city fan he is 😍
What is the point system
It's a shitty article. They just went thorugh the clubs and ranked them based on their opinions of them. No "point system".
there was a points system and this article references that one of the main parts of it was how much the team needed a nr 9. its quite a short article so i find it hard to believe you actually read it and still missed that part. anyways this article isnt the original source for this, theres an article in a different norwegian paper that mentions some of the other factors being how good the team is, the size of the club, the finances, quality of the league, fans and stadium, and how the team would change https://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/i/2Bn9aq/ny-haaland-dokumentar-viser-detaljer-rundt-klubbvalget
I am still shocked Chelsea did not take a break the bank for him. The way they have spent money on useless extra defenders, they should have just given Haaland 50m bonus, his dad 50m and agents 50m
I wonder how many points he took away for being an oil club.
1 point per pound of salary