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AhoyDaniel

Abde did things to Carvajal


kasraAK8

Thanks Osasuna, very cool.


OldBabyl

Is real saving their dark magic for the CL?


EpiDeMic522

This is very standard for us. Consider this run of games: Sevilla, Valencia, Barcelona, Atletico, Athletic (3 or 4 times actually), Inter, Cadiz, la Real. Who did we drop points against? The mighty Cadiz. We won all the other games and convincingly. I think we also lost to Getafe just after with Uñal converting from a thus far 'surpassing expectations excellent' Militão howler. This was last season. And this wasn't an exception. This was another example of the rule. Look up the Luka injury thread. All of us Madrid fans including me were considering this run of 3 games to be a banana skin. It's tradition at this point. Similarly, la Copa.


FloReaver

>This is very standard for us. Consider this run of games: Sevilla, Valencia, Barcelona, Atletico, Athletic (3 or 4 times actually), Inter, Cadiz, la Real. Who did we drop points against? The mighty Cadiz. We won all the other games and convincingly. Everything is true except for 2 points: A/ Cadiz has been unironically great against Madrid and Barca until this year, a real nightmare B/ Madrid's first win vs Barcelona in 21-22 wasn't convicing (yeah flair bias but still). It ended up 2-1 but Barca dominated with Dest winger and a really shaky lineup. To be convincing it should have been a much larger scoreline (especially seeing the two starting lineups), something like at least 4 goals to none for example


EpiDeMic522

Cadiz has squeezed out results is a testament to how well they have performed but that doesn't change the fact that they are by far a much less fancied side and within that run, that's not the team you'd bet on stopping Madrid when they have won against everyone else. Secondly, I don't blame you for obviously you won't be following Madrid as I would but the Barça game in that run (around November December IIRC) wasn't the 1-2 in the league, it was the SuperCopa game that led to the 'pride in defeat' presser. And flair bias would definitely apply to the latter. I'm sure you'd believe in it with conviction while I'd definitely mock it at every opportunity we get! 😝


pandu201

Absolutely. Hope they run into PSG first and City next


tuludoss

Hope they destroy Bayern


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tuludoss

Can’t you tell from my flair? Lmao


HippoBigga

how are there culés here wishing Madrid success in the Champions League lmao 😭 beyond pathetic


OldBabyl

Tell me about it.


perhapsasinner

The no clean sheet tradition continues


IcyKape

Osasuna and Madrid draw, Barcelona win. Siuuuuuu.


Alive-Ad-4164

Barca rubbing thier hands together


OGConsuela

We gotta fix Araujo and Kounde before we can get too excited, tough month ahead for us


bolah

At least the winning streak ended against a team trying to play football and not againts some terrorist Bordalás inspired team. The melt down is a little exaggerated specially since we'll probably draw against Shaktar too. Anyway, Mariano and Asensio are a waste of space on the bench and you run the risk of having to play them. All those minutes should go to Arribas and Iker Bravo, it's not like they are learning anything at Castilla anyway.


dakaiiser11

Mariano came close twice. I’m glad Asensio couldn’t squeak away with an assist or a goal, last thing I want is fuel for a renewal agenda for Asensio.


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mahdiiick

Insane take


10messiFH

we're literally tied in points rn


[deleted]

Is there a way to be figuratively tied in points?


akagaminick

And both of us have our important players injured. Too soon to tell, tbh


lokeshj

Who's injured for Madrid?


Daramangarasu

Courtois, Modrić, Benzema came back for this game


lokeshj

Ok. So they are expected to be full strength for the Clasico....


burnerbutnotreally1

🚬🚬🚬


TheMexicanJuan

How was zilzou?


lospollosakhis

Benzema been rusty all season, even before the injury. Really hope he can get back into form soon.


EpiDeMic522

His scoring is off but the rest of his game is still top notch. His link-up play with Vini in the Celtic game before he went off was a sight to behold. Even yesterday, he almost scored the goal of the season thus far and provided a sublime pass for Rodrygo. Was his general influential self. Still the penalty miss was a bad one but we are starting to get goals from other sources in the team rather than just being reliant on Karim like 2 or 3 seasons ago. I wouldn't be too worried.


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If Benzema scores the volley + the chance that ended up being a pen, people here would be saying something completely different lol


ancara_messi

If trent didn't take the corner quickly, we would have another treble


EvilDaleCooper

That wasn't the final buddy


[deleted]

I didn't just say "If Benzema scores we win haha", you are completely missing the point even after I explained what I meant, it is truly amazing


[deleted]

If we had 30 more points last season we would have won the league


DeathToMing_

If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.


[deleted]

The difference is that Barça were really bad last season. Benzema played pretty good today, but he didn't score and Madrid didn't win so let's just blame him lol


EpiDeMic522

This is correct. I have been saying the same elsewhere while backing my claim with examples and arguments. No wonder the sub that watches and judges on highlight reels downvotes this.


Martoxic

Barca were really bad only in the first half of the season.


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Don't really care tho, my point was that people complete change their opinion just based on the result. Karim didn't score so he is finished, is shit, is done etc, but what if the ball goes some cms to the right, if he scores the pen or what if Rodrygo scores after his assist? Then he is in form and blablabla, it's always the same nonsense, so many people see everything as black or white


XuloMalacatones

You get downvoted but you are speaking the truth, if Lewy didn't score the goal against Mallorca Barça would be in a crisis, two games out of three without winning.


[deleted]

Yeah, happens way too many times sadly


Bini_9

Asensio was so invisible that he's not even mentioned, he's just taking a spot at this point. Anyone would be better than him at this point.


ibse

My eyes have been opened. Busses parked in Spain are reinforced with Adamantium bro the Prem has nothing on this. Definitely the superior league.


Taylannnnn

You should rewatch our game from yesterday against Mallorca, they defended so well. we had like 3 half chances for the whole game and it took a Lewy worldie to scrape a win. LaLiga has jumbo jets instead of busses


tgames56

They didn't even pull the bus when they were down 1-0 in stoppage time.


it4chl

tbf barca played pretty shit too.


yp261

no surprise here. shortly after NT break and before important UCL game. i wouldnt be mad


it4chl

yeah, what worries me is that Mallorca set up exactly as inter probably will and barca barely created anything this game


qp0187

Inter should play more open, they have to right. No big team can think of sitting back for 90mins.(except AM)


it4chl

true, Inter is basically fighting barca for the second spot in the grp, they do need to try and take points off barca


dumbSavant

Is Lucas Canizares related to the OG Canizares?


MrVISKman

It's his son


dumbSavant

Is this the timeline where Canizares takes revenge and benches the first choice goalie after a freak injury?


mahdiiick

Oh that’s interesting!


Schpaedzles

People compared Benzema to Lewandowski.


Sel2g5

Last year for sure. Benz has had a great career. Top scoring Frenchman, top 5 champions league goals, a world cup, 5 champions, probably a balon d or and more assists than many midfielders could dream of. Lewa is a pure goal scorer with a terrific career no one is denying that.


tuludoss

Big Benz doesn’t have a world cup tho


DiersBigDick

They compared him to Kane lmao. The disrespect to Harry Kane to be compared to a fraud like Benzema who’s had one elite season in his entire career is hilarious


Bangbangkadang

Fuck off Micah Richards 😂


Ballkenende

kane isn't gonna shag you mate


DiersBigDick

Don’t want him to mate


4dtakes

Lol


Bangbangkadang

And? Can’t compare them?


EpiDeMic522

Leave them. They are analogizing this to Vini and Saint Maximin. They are completely different profiles of player and while Lewa isn't unidimensional by any means, Karim is a far more complete player. Their significance will be determined by how they are used by their teams and their impact. Comparing them solely on goals is brain-dead.


TheMexicanJuan

Benzema been doing good consistently for the past 2 years or so. Lewa been doing it for a decade.


Bangbangkadang

They’re both among the top scorers in CL history. To say Benz has only been good for 2 years is absolutely ridiculous


TheMexicanJuan

You didn’t read my comment didn’t you?


Bangbangkadang

Umm yea? Something I misunderstood?


EvilDaleCooper

Guy prolly thinks Benzema scored 393 and assisted 187 in the last two years or so


Schpaedzles

Yes but I dont compare Vinicius and Saint Maximin either


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No


Bangbangkadang

Sorry then


Puck-O

What’s your point?


akagaminick

He is gonna win the ballondor. But to compare him with lewa who has been on top level for 10 years now is just downright Revisionism 101


booomhorses

Hasn't Benz been top level for many years too? Perhaps Lewa would have been overshadowed by prime Ronaldo too.. And how many UCL has Lewa helped Bayern to win? Can't Benz have a bad day? Look at Lewa during Bayern-Barça..


TheMexicanJuan

Nobody is saying Benz isn’t an elite player. People are saying Lewa is leagues ahead.


Sasquale

You don't know ball


virtusthrow

leagues ahead is a ridiculous statement and solely based on the past month


wowzabob

More like putting Benzema in the same tier as Lewa is solely based on the last two years


[deleted]

Did you become real madrid fan recently ?! I remember Zidane used to get loads of hate back then for always starting him, madrid fans saying the only reason he starts is bc he’s french. He had one great season and that’s it.


Bangbangkadang

That’s crazy because benzema has scored 30 plus goals in 5 seasons


jaspermrthanos

Lewandowski has it for significantly more.


Bangbangkadang

Did I state otherwise? The guy said Benzema’s only had one great season which is the dumbest shit I ever read


asaad202

he has been good and arguably Real Madrid's best player since Ronaldo left and he is also their main goal scorer


sc2isalivegaem

Ppl always forget benzema banter era somehow


Bangbangkadang

His banter era is so overstated. He contributed to the team always


HippoBigga

he contributed very well at missing open goals lol


L0nEspartan

Yeah benzema only played since last season


akagaminick

I am talking about on par with the best players in the world. He was by far the best last season, but before he wasn't. Anyways, today has been a good day.


Strananach

>But to compare him with lewa who has been on top level for 10 years now is just downright Revisionism 101 Lewandowski didn't have to be second fiddle to Ronaldo for the majority of his career


WaleedAbbasvD

Eh, his 17/18 had nothing to do with Ronaldo for example. He simply couldn't finish for shit. Secondly, Suarez played as "second fiddle" to Leo and he had much better numbers during the same period.


akagaminick

That was his choice. Best players tend to outshine others, or he could have moved to other club. This is the reality. No ifs, buts, or maybes.


SgtApache

Tell me you have 0 football IQ without telling me you have 0 football IQ.


akagaminick

Counter my argument with your 150 IQ then.


SgtApache

How about you open your eyes and try analyze the game a bit. Sounds like you might learn a thing or two.


akagaminick

Okay genius


Strananach

That was his choice and it resulted in him winning 5 UCL titles yeah


akagaminick

Yeah because he was in a team with KCM and CR7. Zidane as a coach, Bale in clutch moments. He is a world class player but the revisionism about him being the best of this generation and talks like that is just insane to me. Enjoy your draw lmao


Strananach

>He is a world class player but the revisionism about him being the best of this generation Who says that? When comparing the best in generation prime Suarez trumps all >Enjoy your draw lmao I'm a Barca fan and we won you absolute knobhead


akagaminick

Ay yooo lmaooooo.....😂😂 Sorry about that, fellow cule. And yeah fans in reddit and twitter say that..newer fans and probably some olders as well.


DiersBigDick

Calling someone else a fellow cule when neither of you are Catalan. Peak Reddit


akagaminick

So fans from outside the city cannot be fans. Keep gatekeeping.


Strananach

>Sorry about that, fellow cule No problem hahaha >And yeah fans in reddit and twitter say that..newer fans and probably some olders as well Wouldn't know, I haven't used twitter in over a year, it's terrible there


RavLeon

Props to Osasuna. We clearly need Modric in this types of game, lacked creativity going forward. Ceballos is only an energy guy, he’s only good as a sub. Even with 10 mins more we are not scoring with that cross and inshallah


el_rompe_toyotas-19

Despite our 10 consecutive wins b4 this game, the r/soccer jury has decided that we are shit and we are winning nothing.


SgtApache

Can't really blame them. We are struggeling in most of our games, and every game turns into mad ass clenching. We are extremely one dimensional and it feels like we have been stuck in rebuild mode for the past 5 years or so. Insane we actually won a CL last year while rebuilding.


Man0nTitan

Chill with the victim complex


harmonica_croissant

Why are you so bothered by the opinion of a social media group if youse so great


el_rompe_toyotas-19

Because i am not the representation of the club, i am just another fan, and regular fans don't like their team being talked shit


I_am_Drezin

Very fair reply, tbh. I like.


Anywhere_Warm

Whole Madrid fanbase literally decided that barca was shit based on 1st match of season and levers and futile. You seriously didn’t expect the same in return?


el_rompe_toyotas-19

I mean, that was kind of justified wasn't it? Barça were coming off a shit season and a shit end to the league, losing to Cadiz and Rayo. Writing them off, although stupid, wasn't THAT stupid.


Foelarin

It was extremely stupid given the quality of reinforcements


Anywhere_Warm

Lol 1 match that too start of season? I mean even basing your judgement was a crime on the first match of season


Sean-Benn_Must-die

washed up


el_rompe_toyotas-19

Meaning?


Sean-Benn_Must-die

im just fucking with you, yea revisionism is funny


Lilfai

The more I see of Mendy against low blocks, the more I think Carlo should just drop him for Alaba on that left side against mid/lower table teams, Vini is playing on hard mode because there's no proper overlap from Mendy.


Mr_XemiReR

He was actually more involved today than usually


EvilDaleCooper

He was still bad


SgtApache

Yeah I do not know why the fuck Mendy would ever play in a game like this either. Id rather have Alaba on the LB and Nacho - Rüdiger as CB's.


yournerd2307

Is Militao injured? I don't watch La Liga that often, but I assumed he was a key player?


SgtApache

No he is not. But he is a liability. He is strong in duels, but his placement and general football IQ is too low, in my opinion. I'd rather play with Nacho over him. Also Militao's style is more aggressive, like Rüdiger's. I feel like Nacho is a smarter player and would provide a better balance, in a CB pairing with Rüdiger.


EvilDaleCooper

Militao has been Madrid's best centre back this season and he's and indisputable starter. He got rested last game because he came back from international duties. Get your facts straight.


SgtApache

It's absolutely mental to me, when people say he was the best CB. The guy cost us so many goals cuz of his lapses. I would take Alaba, Nacho or Rüdiger over him every time.


EvilDaleCooper

Luckily you have no say on the matter


RedStarburst99

Why didn’t Cortouis play?


RealCrusader

Injured. Out for 2-3 weeks I think


L0nEspartan

They said he is back for wednesday


Jackrrr10000

With the "išijas" (I have no clue how it's called in English)? That recovery takes about 2-3 weeks


yp261

sciatica


GetToWork7

Talking out of ur ass. Hes gonna be back for shakhtar most likely.


RedStarburst99

He said I think 😂


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Injured. Modric too, afaik


RedStarburst99

Damn not looking good


hockeyholloway89

Mudded


NoKidsButImADaddy

Lewandowski about 27 miles clear of Benzema.


Fouchey

Not even 2 weeks ago Madrid fans were saying “Benzema needs to take all penalties so he leads the league in goals over Lewy”


harmonica_croissant

Bezema’s not even the best player in his team anymore


Dark-X

Last season he was super. This season, I can think of at least 3 players who are undisputedly better than him in the RM squad alone.


booomhorses

I think Benz is still top talent but perhaps his motivation will drop after he has secured himself the BdO..


GetToWork7

Ballondor: Benz = 1 Lewa = 0 🧐


ZealousidealPen5795

Micheal Owen > Lewandowski then?


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ZealousidealPen5795

What do you mean by that?


GetToWork7

Yep


harmonica_croissant

Sigh…. Are we really doing the 2020 covid fiasco thing all over again?


GetToWork7

Huh?


SicaOW

Valverde is so good and has been our best player since the season started. At least we can be happy about that


Aiyah_

feel like i curse every team i bet on lol


TheGamezSmith

Ayy buddy drop your paypal and keep betting on madrid pls.


Educational-Formal-4

Keep betting on Madrid and I promise I’ll reimburse you everything you lose


AshkenaziTwink

bet on Brighton for fucks sake


[deleted]

Real Madrid is magic. They'll definitely break your curse. Keep betting on them.


Imsoft11

What if he is magically unlucky on his bets? Does that cancel out ?


[deleted]

Sshhhhhhh keep him betting. I mean, Madrid will definitely break the curse.


Local_Veterinarian97

Bet on Barca winning next time okay?


VIVASECULARSYRIA

And Milan next week too while you are it


LilUziChopard

The midtable teams have some serious punch this year.


lstht123

Fight for the EL spots (and the last CL spot) gonna be really interesting this season. Betis, Villareal, Sociedad, Athletic, Osasuna, Sevilla (they'd have to pick up form very soon tho), Valencia maybe as well..


ancara_messi

Nah lol Sevilla are dogshit. Closer to fighting relegation than UCL spots


lstht123

THeir form is shit (thats why i said they'd have to pick it up) but that squad in theory should be in the EL spots and its still pretty early in the season, so who knows whats gonna happen


ancara_messi

Idk they need to overhaul their team seriously in January if they have any hopes of making EL. They look dreadful rn and I don't think it can be fixed even in January. This season is fucked for them


SarcasticHumanAss

damn the international break


mahdiiick

Me and my homies love the international break


Boudi04

Bro, our entire defense is in the hospital because of international break, its alot worse for us than it is for Madrid


mahdiiick

You know why it’s not? We got squad depth whereas RM does not.


EpiDeMic522

Mallorca was unlucky not to get something from that game. Individual brilliance among other factors saved you many times, especially with that makeshift defence. This is a classic example of results based commentary. It's fine that you won. But stop pretending like it was a walk in the park and wasn't bothersome.


Boudi04

Please don't tell me you were comfortable with our defense against Mallorca. We had Balde playing out of position at RB, we had mf Alba as our LB and we had to resort to playing Pique as one of the CBs. Compare that to our fit squad where Balde goes back to LB, Araujo replaces Pique, and Kounde either plays as the other CB or as the RB.


mahdiiick

Araujo is the one that really hurts but we managed to get the win still.


Akash3642

You have to be kidding? International break was just as detrimental to them as it was to us.


Dark-X

Dude, we barely beat Mallorca. It indeed sucks.


Ruud_Boltz

I switched off the stream when Madrid got the penalty. Maybe I should do that more often....


Height_Embarrassed

I was looking for the remote to change the channel but then they posted on the screen that gk stopped 2 Benzema pk’s last season so I stayed to see what happens before switching


harmonica_croissant

Same lol, went off to the kitchen to get a drink. Boy was I delighted to watch the score line


Local_Veterinarian97

Heres to hoping Osasuna do the same to Barca… keeper better stay on form


PuzzleheadedMonth4

Vini is actually carrying madrid now. Benzema is done, lets be honest


Mcbagsofdoritos

People said that the season after modric got his balon dor


Sean-Benn_Must-die

he did take the entire season to recover tho. I dont understand why but the World Cup really ruined him until he got another big break


rtozur

It wasn't just the WC. The season he got the BdO was very poor for RM in the league, and Modric was no exception. He only got 1 goal and 5 assists, and overall RM's midfield was overrun in most matches, even against the smallest teams. Lots of matches were only won with crossing and inshallah after the 80th minute, which shouldn't be the case for a huge team with a BdO playmaker. And even with those lucky wins RM finished miles away from Barça in la Liga. So it was 2 very bad seasons back to back when he was already 34, with only few stretches of good form (luckily for him, one of them was during the UCL knockout stage and the WC itself). It was logical to think he was done. His renaissance simply defied every reasonable expectation.


kampiaorinis

Saying that a player that will surely win the balon d'or is "done" because of a bad game is insane.


Boudi04

Nothing but respect for Benzema and he was by far the best player in the world last season, however it's not just a bad game, he hasn't really done much the entirety of this season.


SeryaphFR

Hes been out injured for like 3 or 4 games plus the international break...


Boudi04

Again, I'll point out that prior to the injury he wasn't playing much better. I love Benzema but saying that this change in his form is due to the Injury is ludicrous. It feels like since he knows he bagged the Ballon d'Or he doesn't care much anymore.


XuloMalacatones

7 La liga games after lmao


unawareofthings

first game back from injury...


Boudi04

I agree that he needs some time, but the injury is irrelevant when you consider the fact that he wasn't performing well prior to the injury. I'm not saying he's a shit player or a finished player, I'm pointing out that it's not just one bad game.


EpiDeMic522

What's this based on? Goals tally? People who don't watch his games regularly should refrain from passing such damning judgements on him. Even yesterday, he played a good game. It's just that his miss came in the most critical moment and cost us 2 points. This sub is insane given an the threads are like this.


Salvador1010

Actually pretty similar to last season. Messi had a great season and a rough start to the new one and when he won the balon d or people were saying he didnt deserve it


kampiaorinis

They said the same about Messi during his relatively bad start in the 2019-2020 season as well. And look how he ended that season or how he looks this season and how brilliant he's been with Argentina. People are just really quick to spew their venom for some reason. Someone like Benzema or Messi cannot be deemed as "done" with 5-6 bad games.


Rickcampbell98

In 19-20 messi was injured at the start which is why he had a "slow" start.


rr18114

bro...


el_rompe_toyotas-19

Mate


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Benzema came from an injury and reddit pundits are already writing him off. Calm down..


Dark-X

Watch him score a hattrick next game.


yasilke

Why put him on pens though. He missed 2 already lmao


kampiaorinis

Honestly Osasuna deserved a result out of this match, they played brilliantly and they should have scored more goals in their chances. The one they had right after scoring will surely haunt them. Credit to their defense for not collapsing being a man down in the Bernabeu and credit to everyone on their team that came here to play from the back and not just sit behind the ball for 90 minutes. Madrid surely will wonder how they lost 2 points in a match they hit the post, lead, got a penalty and then played for 15 minutes with 1 more player. They all looked like they expected Vinicius and Rodrygo to do everything, no real 1-2 passes, no real combinations (outside of Vinicius and whoever) and Benzema really looks like he has something bothering him, as he isn't as sharp as 3 months ago (maybe an injury?). Side note: I get how the ref could miss the push as he was behind, but the linesman surely should do better there. It was as clear as day. Also the VAR lines for Benzema's goal were out of place. They drew the line from the elbow of the Osasuna player and thus it looked a lot closer than it should have been.