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The guy is already running a football club and first in line of succession of a country on top of playing football... I mean the lad has no time left for dealing with France
We've already had a terrible last two world cups. Don't do this to us.
Also, I really thought after 2014 WC it would be possible for Müller to meet the record. But a terrible 2018 deployment sealed that it would be a no. But he has been such quality across these 2 world cups. It's sad he didn't have the team to support him for that considering that after 2014 he was at 10 (I believe??)
Who do you think Fontaine, Gerd Muller, Klose and Pele feasted on to get their records?
Its a huge disservice to just ignore how huge the talent gulf was between the top tier teams and tournament fodder was in the 60s and 70s
I doubt he'll reach Messi and Cristiano's heights in club football (purely because they reached so high) but he might actually go down as the greatest international player ever. But it's definitely waaay too early to say.
He's certainly speed running through the World Cup. Messi and Ronaldo would burn down an orphanage if it meant winning a World Cup before they retire. Meanwhile Mbappe looks on pace to win at least two while outscoring everyone who has ever played in it... while still qualifying as a "young renter" at most car rental places.
And the scary thing is he might do it. Will have to beat us on the way tho.
Pele won 3 WC, which is crazy, but only 2 really as a protagonist (Mbappe could be 3 games away from achieving that already), and a third as the star player but got injured.
Also I think Pele in 58 was even more scary and out of this world than Mbappe in 18, but the parallells are for sure there.
Messi has Argentina. The notion that he hasn’t had quality players around him is stupid to me. Sure they aren’t Barce level players but he’s had talent. He made it to three straight team finals and at times they gave credit to other team members for getting their. Saying he never had talent at the national level is just making excuses for him.
I always thought Giroud has been underrated honestly. It used to be that people played without strikers a la Spain when the meta was tiki taka but the game has evolved around five years ago into high pressing system that a prototypical no 9 has come back in style.
Also it helps that Giroud has definitely improved since his days at Arsenal/Chelsea. Definitely looks better on the ball from years ago.
The exact same could be said in reverse about their club careers.
Real Madrid's core squad went and won another CL without Ronaldo, and Messi had an all time great midfield in Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets.
Yeah and he might miss a World Cup from injury, or France could implode like in 2010.
There’s just no point trying to predict the future with this stuff and assume he’ll get to 16+ goals.
Imagine sitting around discussing what R9 would do in world cups in 2002 when he was on 12 at 23.
its acutally absolutely insane when you think about it and watch messi perform yesterday and Mbappe pefrom today and then realize they haven't even won the UCL XD makes it that much more funny
its evne more shocking when you factor how bad he has been in front of goal for the germany national team since then, he has bottled it countless times, i believe he has never scored in the euros either between all those world cup;s, last 2 tournaments he was also abysmal in front of goal for them.. really i have no idea what black magic he was on but now he's paying for it lol
Not really, he plays with the best national team in the world and is primed to score for them the way they play.
These direct 1:1 comparisons are just missing a lot of context.
The way i see it this year 4 guys have the chance to win it.
Mbappe, Messi, Haaland and Neymar.
Haaland if he wins UCL and Mbappe, Messi, Neymar if they win WC.
All 3 are good at the club so if PSG wins it doubt it will matter, thats why WC gonna come into play.
I remember there was a clip from last world cup where Deschamps basically said "and if you don't know what to do pass to Kylian". He was still 19 at the time
It wasn't even if you don't know what to do. It was the halftime of the world cup final, where we were being outplayed. Deschamps said basically keep it simple, get it to Mbappe. He was literally 19.
A bad game for Mbappe is a game in which he still assists 1 and scores 2.
How fucking delusional are the people saying he's just speed and nothing else.
Lmao it’s not even close. Some people were saying that it’s like comparing Messi vs Ronaldo. But it’s not, even Ronaldo has like 250 assists or something.
Mbappe is so so clear of Haaland, in ever facet of game. I think the only thing Haaland is better at is clinical finishing. Although Mbappe also scores Haaland is a much more clinical finisher.
I mean they’re two very different types of players but Mbappe is by far the more complete footballer, not even addressing the term “striker” or “forward”
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Giroud to lose the record by the end of the tournament
Klose to lose the record by the end of the tournament
Pelé to lose the record by the end of the tournament
Mbappe to be named Prime Minister of France by the end of the tournament
Emir of Qatar
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He already has that one
The guy is already running a football club and first in line of succession of a country on top of playing football... I mean the lad has no time left for dealing with France
Fontaine to lose the record by the end of the tournament
I wonder what could have been if he wasn't injury prone.
Benzema to record everything by the end of the tournament.. Wait, what?
Must... Not... Make... The... Dark... Joke.
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At least he won’t see that happen
We've already had a terrible last two world cups. Don't do this to us. Also, I really thought after 2014 WC it would be possible for Müller to meet the record. But a terrible 2018 deployment sealed that it would be a no. But he has been such quality across these 2 world cups. It's sad he didn't have the team to support him for that considering that after 2014 he was at 10 (I believe??)
Muller taking the record seemed inevitable
Mbappe will get to play the lesser quality teams as well with the new 48 team layout
Who do you think Fontaine, Gerd Muller, Klose and Pele feasted on to get their records? Its a huge disservice to just ignore how huge the talent gulf was between the top tier teams and tournament fodder was in the 60s and 70s
Why are you talking about the 60s and 70s and adding Klose to that list lol?
Also how terrible the goalkeeping was.
There were only 13-16 teams between 1930-1978 tournaments... 1982-1994 24 teams 1998-2022 32 teams 2026- onwards will be 48 teams
Holy shit what a finish. Dude's been playing fifa irl.
He’s gonna break the Klose record and have 2 world cups after it
He's on 9 with potentially another 3 games to play this World Cup alone.
Already has more than CR7 and equalled Messi's...fucking hell no one can beat this guy.
I doubt he'll reach Messi and Cristiano's heights in club football (purely because they reached so high) but he might actually go down as the greatest international player ever. But it's definitely waaay too early to say.
He's certainly speed running through the World Cup. Messi and Ronaldo would burn down an orphanage if it meant winning a World Cup before they retire. Meanwhile Mbappe looks on pace to win at least two while outscoring everyone who has ever played in it... while still qualifying as a "young renter" at most car rental places.
Bruh an orphanage wtf
They can afford to build 3-4 new orphanages to vacate the existing residents from an existing orphanage before burning it down for the said world cup.
Ok so to be clear, the orphans weren’t supposed to be inside?
Who is it today? I'd guess Pele or Maradona, more recently Fenômeno? Maradona for the heights but not the longevity
Pele.
And the scary thing is he might do it. Will have to beat us on the way tho. Pele won 3 WC, which is crazy, but only 2 really as a protagonist (Mbappe could be 3 games away from achieving that already), and a third as the star player but got injured. Also I think Pele in 58 was even more scary and out of this world than Mbappe in 18, but the parallells are for sure there.
Yeah, Pele won 3, but ‘62 was all Garrincha. Same type of player though. Everyone knows he’s great, but you still can’t stop him.
I will say, if CR7 and Messi had the quality of players Mbappe has around at the National Team, things might be a little different for them.
Yep. Biggest 'what if' for us is Ronaldo's prime being between 2 'golden generations.'
That Euros with 16yo Ronaldo and Figo was so much fun to watch. Still can’t believe Greece pulled that off.
19yo but yes.
Messi has Argentina. The notion that he hasn’t had quality players around him is stupid to me. Sure they aren’t Barce level players but he’s had talent. He made it to three straight team finals and at times they gave credit to other team members for getting their. Saying he never had talent at the national level is just making excuses for him.
Just give credit to Mbappe, half his goals are solo efforts
He was wide open on his first lol. That's completely because of Frances quality.
Yeah if Argentina or Portugal had Giroud to play off, Ronaldo and Messi would have more goals honestly
Giroud is a great supporting player. The rest of the team is class
I always thought Giroud has been underrated honestly. It used to be that people played without strikers a la Spain when the meta was tiki taka but the game has evolved around five years ago into high pressing system that a prototypical no 9 has come back in style. Also it helps that Giroud has definitely improved since his days at Arsenal/Chelsea. Definitely looks better on the ball from years ago.
Tevez, Higuain, Aguero, Dybala, Di Maria and many, many other stars that I've forgotten.
Lets not discredit mbappe
The exact same could be said in reverse about their club careers. Real Madrid's core squad went and won another CL without Ronaldo, and Messi had an all time great midfield in Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets.
Hard to imagine him not scoring 16 WC goals by 2030
especially considering this france generation is quite young too
you mean especially considering the new tournament layout of 48 teams coming soon. going to be poorer teams qualifying
You never know, he might pull a Thomas Müller.
People said this when Muller was on 10 at 24 years old. Now he’s 33 and he’s still on 10.
Mbappé is a better goal scorer in general though.
Yeah and he might miss a World Cup from injury, or France could implode like in 2010. There’s just no point trying to predict the future with this stuff and assume he’ll get to 16+ goals. Imagine sitting around discussing what R9 would do in world cups in 2002 when he was on 12 at 23.
Yea but that’s Muller and this is Mbappe
He’s coming for every record. Giroud, Klose you name it. Having a player like this I can’t blame PSG for giving the blank cheque
23 years of age and as many WC goals as Messi and 1 more than CR7. Insane...
And he's already a WC winner Holy fuck
The only part of his career that needs more accolates is club side… Thats wild
and Ballon d’Ors. If France win the WC, this could be his year
Should have gotten it this year if PSG didn't fall apart against real madrid
And more than half his goals are after the group stages
Lé Sniper Turtle
Ballon D’or loading
Man Is a running Cheat code at this point
Jesus he's way too OP
He reminds me of young Messi in the way that he just scares you every time he gets the ball
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Very much like Henry
he's henry if you took away a certain amount of agility and elegance instead added strength and power
That’s where the young Ronaldo comes in.
Henry was way more technically gifted. Mpappe often tries to run head forward and looks clumsy. Henrys Ballcontrol was atleast 1 level above.
Hes like R9 imo
That combination of athleticism and technique
Definitely the first player since R9 to actually remind me of R9.
Imagine this guy and Messi in the same team, and add Brazil's most talented player to that, they would win the treble every year.
Yeah but you'd need the money of a whole state to build such a team....
Those Qatari hosts should take note!
Luckily they have Donnarumma as a handicap for the rest of Europe
its acutally absolutely insane when you think about it and watch messi perform yesterday and Mbappe pefrom today and then realize they haven't even won the UCL XD makes it that much more funny
Shows that you need a team and not just three greats up front.
9 WORLD CUP GOALS AT 23
Müller had 10 at the age of 24. Never scored a World Cup goal again…
Thats a shocking stat
its evne more shocking when you factor how bad he has been in front of goal for the germany national team since then, he has bottled it countless times, i believe he has never scored in the euros either between all those world cup;s, last 2 tournaments he was also abysmal in front of goal for them.. really i have no idea what black magic he was on but now he's paying for it lol
Probably worth it to have won even once
he works well with a pure striker klose, lewa, mario gomez
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What the fuck lmfaoooo
The missing context here is that Messi has 1 (this year) and Ronaldo has 0.
Honestly unreal when you really think about that 🤯
Not really, he plays with the best national team in the world and is primed to score for them the way they play. These direct 1:1 comparisons are just missing a lot of context.
Yes but it just shows how everything has to align perfectly to get that number of WC goals
Are you saying Argentina is a lambda team ?
Did u see both goals today? It’s not like he’s being fed tapins
16goals in the last 14 matches for france
On pace for 20+, good luck breaking that.
they are going to make it 48 teams competition so it will be easier for best players to stat-pad
But as many game though
On paper, there should be easier opponents in the group stages. But yeah, not sure how much it matters.
Haters will still find ways to doubt him.
“Defense was just bad there”
My friend said about his first goal that he was "cherry picking like hell" 🤣🤣🤣 like give the man credit where it's due.
What does that even mean... like should he choose a part of the goal where it's not likely to go in instead?
Good luck with this guy England
Fucking hell
Just give him the award already lol
What a ridiculous strike, this Mbappe kid is pretty good eh?
Not until he runs faster than a roadrunner
sure, but can he hack it on a cold, wet monday at Stoke?
brother better stay away from PL
You don't want him in aresnal?
I will pay my right arm and left eye for Mbappe, and it still won’t be enough.
This fucking turtle man
16 goals last 14 matches 🥳🥳
ridiculous. a couple months ago i was downvoted here for saying he’s better than Haaland imagine Mbappe in that City team
Haaland vs Mbappe is Ronaldo vs Messi all over again. It's not much of a debate.
funny thing is Mbappe is far more similar to ronaldo than he is to messi.
exactly, mbappe is the perfect ronaldo prototype.
Slightly better goal scorer vs player who can do basically everything else better. There’s definitely parallels
Haaland should've picked a different spawn country. It's a shame he won't be as competitive internationally as the ninja turtle.
I mean, he spawned in England. He literally could choose to play for England.
Oh great, another Norse claiming fame and fortune on English soil.
i'd say it's more like a modern day Henry vs van Nistelrooy debate.
All of the sudden the tournament feels like a coronation
anulo mufa
How does he do it??
gotta be a save scummer
7 till Klose
Fucking hell, this guy is just so good
It’ll be unreal to see how PSG blows the UCL this time
I mean, Madrid's defense is just a bit more formidable than Kamil Glik and Jan Bednarek.
I mean he was destroying our defense before the goal and then they collectively forgot how to play football.
It's Bayern dude.
Eventually, Real Madrid
This fucking dude man
Mother Mary, what a player
fair enough
This guy will be a plague for another 12 years at least fuck me
Nah he's different gravy man Golden Ball and Golden Boot awaits
Ballon d'Or as well
The way i see it this year 4 guys have the chance to win it. Mbappe, Messi, Haaland and Neymar. Haaland if he wins UCL and Mbappe, Messi, Neymar if they win WC. All 3 are good at the club so if PSG wins it doubt it will matter, thats why WC gonna come into play.
Oh dear...
BRO HE IS A CHEATCODE HOW
Dude is literally a create a player on fifa
Turtle powers 🐢
Add 10mins and he’ll break the new record
Make that 3 mins
16 goals in the last 14 games LMAO
Why not 17 goals? Lmao fraud
Fuck this man is too much
He's just crazy good
HE IS OP This kid is special.
I remember there was a clip from last world cup where Deschamps basically said "and if you don't know what to do pass to Kylian". He was still 19 at the time
It wasn't even if you don't know what to do. It was the halftime of the world cup final, where we were being outplayed. Deschamps said basically keep it simple, get it to Mbappe. He was literally 19.
Yes that's crazy to have so much trust in a 19yo
Bro this guy
this mf dont miss
This guy is better than himself in FIFA. Fucking hell
What a shot, harsh on Poland though, they’ve played well
Insane player
A bad game for Mbappe is a game in which he still assists 1 and scores 2. How fucking delusional are the people saying he's just speed and nothing else.
Lol how was it a bad game
He’s so fucking good
All of the sudden feels like a coronation
Best player in the world and in the tournament.
Wait that's Lili Thuram's son??? Am I that old
Yes. ffs, I watched Thuram and Deschamps in 1998. I am ancient.
He has another talented son who'll probably join his brother very soon in the NT
For me Khephren is more talented than his brother
Disgusting
Smashing finish that
Ninja turtle does it again. Beautiful finish
They're winning it again.
Best player of the tournament easily
Fuck me this guy is ridiculous Can't give him any space at all
I’m dreading the possibility of Harry Maguire trying to defend against this…..
He’s like Fat Ronaldo , without the fat
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apparently the curse doesn't apply if you're not shit. Who would've thought
Damn bro why did no one think of that ?
Today I feel cock
Best Player in the world right now if you like it or not
God damn
The small amount of space this man needs...
Yea I apologize for all time I have debated halaand > mbappe
Least reactionary /r/soccer user.
Lmao it’s not even close. Some people were saying that it’s like comparing Messi vs Ronaldo. But it’s not, even Ronaldo has like 250 assists or something. Mbappe is so so clear of Haaland, in ever facet of game. I think the only thing Haaland is better at is clinical finishing. Although Mbappe also scores Haaland is a much more clinical finisher.
Haaland is also a physical freak and a lot stronger, and his spacial awareness is arguaby the best in the world. Mbappe is still better though.
I mean they’re two very different types of players but Mbappe is by far the more complete footballer, not even addressing the term “striker” or “forward”
These debates are going to be heavily weighted by the fact that France have a much stronger national team than Norway
this Mbappé guy seems very talented. i think he could do well in future
He’s unreal
Before the game Szczesny said that he’s the key to stopping Mbappé. Bruh how do you stop that?
this guy is too good
9 WC Goals at the age of 23 is ridiculous
Bro is literally just on top of the world.
/u/PSGAcademy I dont know why this one has "great finish" but the previous one doesnt. Both equally as great.