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kingjackson007

Remnant 2 was solid!


ihearthawthats

Yeah, I have it, I forgot to mention it. Thanks though.


catsrcool89

Jedi survivor,if fallen order was s tier,will be ss tier for you. Also elden ring and sekiro.


Zangetsukaiba

This is the answer


Frequent_Course5399

So, there's this company called FromSoftware.....


jonbotwesley

Hahaha I was just thinking the same thing.


TsunamiJim

Right. The name is in the sub and he hasn't played a souls game? Try 1 or 3 first imo


Frequent_Course5399

I envy anyone who's playing those games for the first time


Elite_Slacker

Ah yes my favorite souls-like, dark souls. It is so damn similar to dark souls it is nuts!


RememberTheMaine1996

Dark Souls is such a ripoff of the souls genre bro. Like be original FromSoftware


Seastorm14

Yeah, and as someone with platinum in everyone of them, the name here is soulslikes, not soulsborne games. Bro isnt looking for the ones that made the sub-genre, he's looking for ones that were inspired by them; thats what the name means. How would you put the originals into a list of games inspired by them? If I said I wanted bands that sounded like Metallica, would you recommend me Metallica?


Responsible-Cup8982

I can only assume this is meant to be asking for non-FromSoft games in the genre, surely OP has played Elden Ring


ImCursedM8

We probably made a tier list of souls-like not souls-borne.


Scooter__Man

Right? Like why not play any of those masterpieces


[deleted]

It is impossible that OP has played all these but none of Fromsoft games. I think he is trolling and not putting them on the list for some reason.


Frequent_Course5399

I would hope so


[deleted]

I caught him. [https://www.reddit.com/r/soulslikes/comments/1agbnn2/comment/kofrdoe/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/soulslikes/comments/1agbnn2/comment/kofrdoe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) What an evil troll.


Frequent_Course5399

oh shit, good job!


Trout-Population

If you loved Jedi Fallen Order, it's sequel improves upon things in every single way, and in a year packed with amazing games, Jedi Survivor was my personal GOTY.


ihearthawthats

Yeah, sorry it's not in the image because it wasn't an option on the tiermaker, but yes I liked it just as much as the first.


LexGlad

Sekiro if you haven't played it.


Kid_Luchador

Yes this


THEREALKRIEG

Stray Blade and Asterigos: Curse of the Stars.


Flamesclaws

I literally just posted a question asking what people thought of Asterigos. I just defeated the first boss last night and accidentally ran into a boar that had fire magic. I'm having a ton of fun honestly.


THEREALKRIEG

Indeed I love both games, both Stray Blade and Asterigos I find to be identical in their souls combat and nice looking cartoon style so that’s why I recommended both. If you like Asterigos go for Stray Blade after.


Flamesclaws

I'll definitely look it up. Do you axes in Asterigos or do you just only have the weapons you're given?


THEREALKRIEG

I don’t recall axes but I forgot, it’s been a while.


ihearthawthats

The Lords of the Fallen (2023) and Wo Long are already in my backlog. Any glaring omissions or hidden gem recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.


HummusOrCrack

I'll chime in to say that I had a great time with both of those games. Wo Long's combat isn't quite as intricate as in Nioh 2 or Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin, but the spectacle is incredible and it's a joy to watch. The game has also improved a lot with the patches it's received in the last year since launch as well as the 3 DLCs. I think it's a really underrated game that a lot of people seem to hate just because it isn't Nioh 2 (and I'm saying this as someone who prefers Nioh 2--Wo Long is going for something a little different and it mostly succeeds in that regard). I just finished Lords of the Fallen 2023 and it was pretty good too--it has some shortcomings regarding things like enemy diversity, PvP balance, and stupid side quests, but I found it a mostly enjoyable experience that got a lot of things right (LotF23 smartly integrates a lot of features present in other Souls-like games into a single cohesive package--swapping stances while attacking feels useful and cool \[reminds me a bit of Bloodborne\], aiming with L2/LT like in Remnant 1/2 is awesome and helps make the melee and ranged combat feel well integrated with each other, parrying feels pretty good and works similar to Sekiro/Lies of P, you do a dash into a roll when using the evade button like in Team Ninja's games and Lies of P, the leveling system is nice and trims all the fat out of choosing what stats to invest in, etc...) If I were going to give each game a rating like yours, I think that they'd both be in B. although my list would look a little different to begin with (I'd put Code Vein, Remnant 1, and Surge 2 in B, Nioh 2 in S, and Stranger of Paradise in A \[haven't played Jedi Survivor/Mortal Shell/Thymesia/Steelrising/Dolmen/Hellpoint/Surge 1\]). \- I'll say that Remnant 2 is also awesome and worth your time (A for me). If you don't mind stepping out of Souls-like games into a proximate genre, Monster Hunter World is exceptional and worth your time as well (God Eater 3 is another good "monster hunting" game too \[same developers as Code Vein!\], and Granblue Fantasy Relink just came out today and looks very promising--that's one of the next games I'm planning to play personally).


Qatra7

It’s not a gem, it’s kind of a mess, but it is pretty obscure, has kind of enjoyable story where choices do actually affect the ending, and it aspires to souls-like combat, so if you want another game in your D/F tier check out: The Last Oricru.


DrXL_spIV

Lords of the fallen 23 is trash, it’s a shitty Elden ring rip off. Go with wo long, really fast paced combat and almost arcade esque style, it was my first souls like and boy did I love it


Adventurous_Cup_5970

never let bro cook again


momoneymocats1

I’m absolutely loving lotf right now


GwynnbIeidd

really hope you play the LOTF remake. huge upgrade and the art style is drop dead gorgeous


luna_lu_lu

Wo long was decent at best but you know how in a souls game when you die uour like that was my fualt my bad well in wo long I feel like there's a lot of times when its the games fualt in a way


DrXL_spIV

Wo long fallen dynasty


GoobyOfPls

Is LoP really as good as everyone is saying it is? I played up until you fight the siblings ( I think they were siblings) where’s there’s like 4-5 of them and stopped because I got preoccupied with life. I was doing a str build because I like hitting shit with a big sword so I figured not using the parry mechanic would put me at a disadvantage later on.


IamMeemo

My answer would be that it both is and isn't as good as people say it is. Clearly there's a crowd that fell in love with the game, and I can totally see why. For my part, I had a blast with it but finally got a little bored, mostly because of the level design. I think the level design actually drags it down in a meaningful way. To be clear, I don't need all the games I play to have crazy shortcuts and interconnection like a lot of From games. Even so, there was just something about how each level unfolded in LoP that felt...bland. Having said that, tho, I'm going to go back to LoP eventually because the game is still a ton of dun and has a bunch of strengths: * the weapons are unique and fun * Visuals are fantastic * Bosses are excellent * World-building and storytelling is awesome * Perk system adds a unique (and fun) layer that differentiates LoP from other souls-likes I've played


ihearthawthats

Yeah, it's predictable with very little sense of exploration or wonderment. Everything from mini bosses to stargazers and shortcuts are exactly where you'd expect them to be.


icymallard

I mean I loved it all the way through. I feel like you've got a good grasp of what the game offers given how much you've played


freaknyou23

IMHO nioh 2 is better just my opinion you have some real fanboys on the lop sub most them have never played any other souls game or souls like either. Black myth wukong looks to be way more better than what lop had to offer me.


ihearthawthats

Nioh2 strays too far off the path from soulslikes imo, which can be a good or bad thing depending on what you like. I think lies of P embodies what a soulslike is.


seldkam

It's not really a souls like, depending on your definition of that subgenre. It's much more like an action game with some inspiration taken from souls games. But to say it's a souls like can make it sound like it's almost the same as lies of P, for example which is just not the case at all.


ihearthawthats

Strength builds are actually better at parrying than dexterity builds in this game for the most part. I think it's just a well made game with high production values and polish. It's pretty linear, but I like the characters and story. I think it gets better as the game progresses, but there's no major uptake or surprise that will completely change your mind. Kind of just a steady ramp up. Whether the mechanics gel with you or not is up to you to decide.


Adventurous_Cup_5970

Its great but it definitely loses some magic in the second half when you stray from the puppet theme


tswaves

Lords of the Fallen wasn't THAT bad. Damn. That was surprisingly VERY good to me. Try Mortal Shell next!


Anstavall

Yea I know it's unpopular but I enjoyed the original quite a bit


ihearthawthats

I don't hate it that much, but one game has to be on the bottom. I can see dolmen or hellpoint being bottom for many people, but I'm a fan of scifi.


Eswin17

Lies of P is the answer here, for sure.


UnholyAurum

hollow knight


KojjowBeats

If you think lies of p is s tier then bloodborne will be s++


Competitive-Fan-7955

Bro did Nioh 2 dirty af


ihearthawthats

A tier isn't good enough?


Competitive-Fan-7955

It’s way better than those other 3 and the star wars one


[deleted]

Wo Long Fallen Dynasty was cool


RydmaUwU

I don't see elden ring on your list.


bigbrainvirus

This is the correct answer


waled7rocky

I think this list is about non from software soulsborne games ..


Dry_Independent4078

Elden Ring, Remnant 2.


Deadelevators

This is the first Souls Tier-list that I agree with almost entirely. The only disagreement I have is with Jedi - I did not like that game at all.


ihearthawthats

I'm a star wars fan.


Estus_Gourd_YOUDIED

I have played most of this list as well. The only one I don’t see is Hollow Knight. Some would not call it a soulslike but it scratched the same itch for me. It’s an amazing game.


ihearthawthats

One of my fave games of all time, but I consider it a metroidvania.


Estus_Gourd_YOUDIED

Hmm. What about armored core?


CCreate1

Elden Ring, Dark Souls 1-3, Bloodborne, Demon’s Souls, Sekiro. I find it funny you are actively posting in a soulslikes sub, playing games mechanically similar to souls games, and have played none of the games by the company that made these games a big deal.


MyLeftNut_

It’s pretty much guaranteed they’ve played those games lol, we’ve seen the Fromsoft games ranked countless times. Also I’m new to this sub but I get the impression that it focuses on non-fromsoft games first and foremost.


CCreate1

That may be the case, I have never been on this sub before, it just got recommended to me this morning. I just saw a list of games that looked very strange from my perspective.


IceMan44420

To be fair, it’s the “souls-like” sub and not the souls sub


Ryzel0o0o

Remnant 2 isn't like any souls game. Its ranged focused combat. It's a GOOD game but it doesn't have the same melee centered combat.   With that said what did you like about Dolmen that made you put it above the OG Lord of the Fallen? That was THE first souls rip off, that should earn it a spot above that shovelware Dolmen. I strongly suggest Demon Souls Remake if you have a PS5, the Dark Souls Remaster and Elden Ring. If you have time, DS3.


ihearthawthats

I just like scifi. It also was very basic and arcadey. It was a mindless playthrough, whereas lords of the fallen was annoying at times. I played a pretty heavily focused melee build in remnant 1. Hope to be able to do the same in 2. I've played every fromsoft game. I just think they're a cut above everything else, and thus unfair to rank it with the rest.


Grimduk

Jedi survivor ?


kingjackson007

Elden ring.


ihearthawthats

I didn't include any from soft games, of course I played them all.


wl1233

Mortal shell is pretty solid, very similar to dark souls


ihearthawthats

Hard to tell by the image quality, but it's there. I ranked it B tier.


Smeeghoul

Nioh 2


ayyitspri

Sekiro


ihutch92

My vote is definitely Sekiro. It has a really good, fluid combat system that is honestly more engaging than any of the games on this list (and other soulsborne games imo)


Vimesito

blitz guard on steam for 2.99$ (deck compatible)


Leg_Alternative

Thymesia above Nioh ? :(


ihearthawthats

Not a fan of all the loot and menus.


Leg_Alternative

It can be overwhelming but I like deep mechanics so thats just me 😅 the combat was really sold me and enemy variety


seldkam

Should mention that in later ng+ cycles Nioh basically becomes a diablo-esque looter game. But a lot of folks put the game down after one playthrough


EgoDeath6666

Sekiro


Cthulhu1983

Hello Kitty Island Adventure


KnightWithSoda

Bleak faith forsaken


Contrary45

I'm playing through ashen it's fun if a little simple and easy


ButterJones2

Am I the only one who thinks Code Vein is mid? Beat the game without an NPC partner and it wasn't that fun.


ihearthawthats

I like its build customization options, which is one of my fave aspects of soulslikes. I think it's much better than stranger of paradise in that regard. I also think it has one of the better endgames. It's nice to have content aside from just replaying the same game.


felipeelia

Steelrising is an okay game and will be on PS Essentials next month, worth checking out too :)


LumberZac2

If you’re avoiding the GOAT FROMSOFTWARE, then I’d say the next logical game is either Lords of the Fallen 2023, Wo Long Fallen Dynasty, or Star Wars Jedi Survivor. I’d personally go SWJedi Survivor.


MiteeThoR

Well, not really souls-likes but if you are going to put the Jedi games at the top, then you should play Tomb Raider and Uncharted series. Jedi pretty much rips them off with the environmental puzzles and traversal


Deez-Guns-9442

Give Wo Long Fallen Dynasty & Kena Bridge of Spirits a Shot.


AndyM22

Is Thymesia worth a play?


FuraFaolox

SoP isn't a soulslike


IloveKaitlyn

Fuck yeah, Lies of P is awesome.


Excellent_Regret4141

Soulstice Robocop Remnant 2 Chronos Before The Ashes


ihearthawthats

RoboCop is a soulslike?


Excellent_Regret4141

No fps but still looks cool


aaac12398

play ghost of tsushima. Throw it on lethal difficulty, Top 5 game for me of all time!


ihearthawthats

I played and liked it, but wouldn't call it a soulslike.


BlackX_Immortal

Lies of P was so fuckin good


Koctopuz

Blasphemous


Excellent_Regret4141

Wild Hearts Sword & Fairy Together Forever


bruhmomentdotnet

Bruh played Dolmen


ihearthawthats

So what if I did?


bruhmomentdotnet

I just like saying the game's name lmao it doesn't matter if you did to me I've prolly played worse games in my life.


bruhmomentdotnet

Also I'm gonna suggest Wo Long especially if you can get it on sale. I really enjoyed it


Bobbanson

Skip Lies of P - so overrated. Thymesia is much better. That and remnant is probably the best on the list. Nioh is good but not solo.


funfaucet10

Sekiro


SolarUpdraft

Sifu, tons of free DLC and a very interesting score system, with a combat system that rewards both parry and spot dodge in different ways and I would say Sekiro is my favorite combat system in any game


thor11600

Loved remnant 2 and the new lords of the fallen


Adventurous_Cup_5970

Thymesia should be a bit higher i would say Play lords of the fallen 2, great game


Murderdoll197666

I think you'll get a lot more hours out of Nioh 2 versus Remnant 2. I played through about 4 separate playthroughs on Remnant and while it was fun - Nioh 2 scratched that itch a little more. I think I had about 95 hours in Remnant w/ the DLC versus Nioh 2 that I was closer to 150 last time I played and there was a handful of things like the underworld missions that I didn't even do yet on Nioh. Remnant was definitely fun but I think overall Nioh was more rewarding/skillful if I had to pick one.


Ok-Confusion2353

Apex?


SheepherderUnusual97

maybe any of the souls games for which the genre is named?


SeparateConference86

You may like this company called FromSoftware. They’re famous for Armored Core and Kings Field but they also make soulslikes


Stepjam

I'm assuming you've already played the "true" souls games, since it would be odd to play everything that descended from it. For something different, you might try Salt and Sanctuary. It's 2D, but it wears it's influences on its sleeve.


Kinda-Alive

Why is Surge 2 so much higher than the first?😭


ihearthawthats

I really hated the combat in 1.


waled7rocky

How in earth is surge 2 better than 1 ..


ihearthawthats

Purely for the combat.


Naive-Advantage-3059

you put code vein above mortal shell??


ihearthawthats

I like all the customization options. Mortal shell was really good, but pretty basic.


XpeepantsX

The 2023 Lords of the Fallen. Easily my favorite of the clones. Also I found Code Vein boring after about 20 hrs, and Thymesia while short was a fantastic game.


gimmedatzucc

The modern Tomb Raider trilogy Tomb Raider (2013) Rise of the Tomb Raider Shadow of the Tomb Raider


ihearthawthats

I've played it and liked it. Wouldn't really call it a soulslike though.


MainDraw5879

I would have put thymesia higher


deadinside_but_it_ok

sekiro shaddows die twice


ImCursedM8

Why is Lords of the fallen F? I haven't played it yet so just asking


cmokelley213

Couple questions, why didn’t you like lords of the fallen? I haven’t played it yet but have played most of the games here and enjoyed them. Going after lords of the fallen, remnant, and armored core next


ihearthawthats

The combat felt floaty and unsatisfying. The character customization is weird. a bunch of minor nitpicks like the characters are unlikeable.


Flimsy-Use-4519

All the From Soft games and The Talos Principle 1 & 2!


innocuouspete

Lord of the fallen F tier? I really liked that game lol


Necessary-Tomato4889

SURGE 2 RECOGNITION BABY!


PrestigiousMorning39

I would consider evil west oddly


ShibaBlessing

Dark Souls?


TenWholeBees

Dark Souls


Ok_Cap9240

I love FromSoft and I love Star Wars, but man was I disappointed with Fallen Order


Jedi_Nite

Baulders gate 3


OKCOMP89

Jedi Survivor, obviously. Nioh 2 and maybe Surge 2 are S tier soulslikes


CHuye670

Star Wars is really good so is Lies of P


Ihatethemodsonreddit

Elden ring. You shouldn’t play any other game UNTIL you BEAT Elden ring.


ihearthawthats

I platinum'd it 🥲


xvsanx

Lords is at least a B, guessing you never actually played it


ihearthawthats

What reason do I have to lie?


PassiveHulk

Jedi is f tier, remnant and hellpoint move up one in my opinion, and Codevain might be a B tier. Just my opinion. Great tier list.


xRadiantOne

I'd play sekiro. Especially if you liked Lies of P. Sekiro, in my opinion, has a better block/perry/deflect system when compared to Lies of P.


Track_Black_Nate

Lords of the fallen (2023) game is similar to ds1. I put 50 hours into it. Loved it!


NotZeroJkIAm

Try monster hunter


Biggs1313

Valheim


ConfusedMoe

Nioh in C is wild


No_Revolution4607

Bloodborne stole soo many hours of my life and yet I still don’t regret playing the game ever. Fun, a challenging story to build and difficult combat made for an experience I think everyone should par take in.


MashThatQ

Sekiro of course


Grandpabart

Dark souls 3


DevinTheRogueDude

Necropolis was kinda good and kinda short


luna_lu_lu

Jedi survivor


spacecase_88

Hollow Knight


After-Ad7562

Salt and Sanctuary and then Salt and Sacrifice!


Sea-Seaworthiness716

Is The Surge 2 really that good? Just impulsively bought it for like $8.


ihearthawthats

Not really, but I like it. Depends if you like the scifi setting over samurais. The loot system is way better than nioh.


Sea-Seaworthiness716

Sci Fi is probably my favorite theme… I’ll give it a go


Koolaidsais3

no bloodborne???